Faith & Loyalty

[Zazie Rainyday]

I was just wondering.
Do you value Faith and loyalty in friendships/love relationships?
I know I do. To me Faith and Loyalty are the traits I look for in a friend.

When I say faith I mean Faith in character.

[simpsonqueen]

Faithful-ness. ruff ruff. The ruff ruff bit is a joke which I assume only a few people will understand anyway. But yeah, I value faithful-ness and loyalty.

[Astinus]

I value both in a friendship. I can't stand being friends with someone who doesn't act truthfully, instead acting like others to fit in. And if you can't trust your friends, then who can you trust? I know that the few friends that I have in real life will never abandon me.

[Craig²]

I value both. Do I ever get both? No.

My friends are the least loyal people in the world. Or they were; we pretty much split up after elementry school. In 5th grade they all grouped up and ditched me from time-to-time. Ugh. Idiots! Now I don't have to deal with all of them. Just a handful.

[Zazie Rainyday]

I value both. Do I ever get both? No.

My friends are the least loyal people in the world. Or they were; we pretty much split up after elementry school. In 5th grade they all grouped up and ditched me from time-to-time. Ugh. Idiots! Now I don't have to deal with all of them. Just a handful.
Join the club. Up until I rejoined PC none of my friends were loyal. They would befriend me and then a year later completely stiff me and hang out with others and make fun of me like everyone else did. XP
To this day I have only 1 loyal friend. My other friends I'm unsure about.

[Cross]

I have 1 loyal friend, 1 not too loyal friend, and every other person on earth can;t be trusted.
I don't trust people very much, cause most of the time, the selfish turds only want something from me.

[Random]

Loyalty is one thing, Faith is another, the two don't seem to go along with me. >.> I'm all for loyalty, thats how i am good with my friends, and the same thing with them, always. But faith is something that comes and goes, its not permanent in friendships, or thats how at least i see it.

[Suki]

I'd say both. I think they are both important in a friendship/relationship and that's what makes them strong. I think.

[Ausaudriel]

I think both are important if you want a strong, healthy friendship with somebody. You need to be able to trust them, and have faith that they won't, you know, "betray" you. (Sounds a bit melodramatic, but what I mean by betray is like, telling other people something that was supposed to be a secret, and so on.)

[Natti]

I value both.

While I may not give a lot of faith (:B), I sure as heck am loyal, if I do say so myself. 8X

.. that smilie looks like a spider. :0

[vizforte]

I value both, (voted thusly) in any relationship I have... sadly even in Business. Although I shouldn't. LOL

[Zazie Rainyday]

Well, I'd have to say that I'm loyal to a fault. Heh. And as for faith. Yeah. That too. I put a lot of faith into my friends.

[Shikon no Tama]

I'd say both are equally important to me. I mean, what kind of friend do you have if they're not loyal? Or if they're not faithful? And same with a relationship. You'd want someone you can feel loyal to and have loyalty in return, same with faith. Without those I don't even think you could have a relationship.

[Alex_]

Isn't being faithful and loyal techniqually the same thing?

[J.M.]

Both are very important in a friend. If I couldn't trust them, then they would not be my friend.

So, I voted both.

[Vavavoom ♣]

Of course... Without those 2 options, you're not a couple. ^^

[Zazie Rainyday]

Isn't being faithful and loyal techniqually the same thing?
Tecnically no it isnt. Faith is beliveing in you. Like if you were accused of a crime you would never do would your friend doubt you? Loyalty is will they have the courage to stand by you while you are accused? Or will they just quit talking to you?

[Chuchino]

Of course. Both are incredibly important to me!

I know the people I care most about would be loyal to me and vise versa, most definitely. I have complete faith in that :x

I've been ditched by people before, I suppose. But back then being 'best friends!' with someone was easy as anything, so finding a new one and ditching the old one was easy, too.

Never made me feel good, though.

So yes, I value mutual faith and loyalty above all other traits. Having a friend like that is really priceless! ^^

[Zazie Rainyday]

Of course. Both are incredibly important to me!

I know the people I care most about would be loyal to me and vise versa, most definitely. I have complete faith in that :x

I've been ditched by people before, I suppose. But back then being 'best friends!' with someone was easy as anything, so finding a new one and ditching the old one was easy, too.

Never made me feel good, though.

So yes, I value mutual faith and loyalty above all other traits. Having a friend like that is really priceless! ^^
Indeed. When both friends have both faith and loyalty to each other it's really awesome. ^^
Heh. And that's an understatement. I really cant find any words to fully express how happy I am to have friends like that. I do have one. ^^

[Allelujah Haptism]

Wow, was I the only one who voted "I really don't care?" o O;;;

I assume that this is referring to real life, and I personally don't really have any great super awesome friends IRL, and even if they didn't have faith in me, and even if they weren't loyal to me, they're my friends, I hang out with them, when I get home, they really sort of don't exist for me, because I'm not a social person.

Besides, I'm a hypocrite, but not to the degree where I expect something like THAT from my friends when I hardly ever give it to them.

But online, I would've voted both, because I know that I can give and get both from every one of my good friends. ;D And if I ever meet some of them in real life, then my vote changes~ <3

[Zazie Rainyday]

Wow, was I the only one who voted "I really don't care?" o O;;;

I assume that this is referring to real life, and I personally don't really have any great super awesome friends IRL, and even if they didn't have faith in me, and even if they weren't loyal to me, they're my friends, I hang out with them, when I get home, they really sort of don't exist for me, because I'm not a social person.

Besides, I'm a hypocrite, but not to the degree where I expect something like THAT from my friends when I hardly ever give it to them.

But online, I would've voted both, because I know that I can give and get both from every one of my good friends. ;D And if I ever meet some of them in real life, then my vote changes~ <3
:\Yeah. I have a hard time beliving you dont care to be honest. Heh. I get the feeling it means a lot to you even though you say it doesnt.
And it was referring to both Online and IRL.

[Allelujah Haptism]

:\Yeah. I have a hard time beliving you dont care to be honest. Heh. I get the feeling it means a lot to you even though you say it doesnt.
And it was referring to both Online and IRL.

Honesty? I have a hard time believing you have the right to judge what I'm like IRL. Not everyone in the world is filled with sugar.

And because you were referring to both, I answered to both, but my vote went to IRL.

I'm sorry if I'm not a saint, but I have no problem with me lying to others, and others lying to me, because as far as I'm concerned, there are plenty of people who aren't worth my time. I share the same motto as Kyoya Ootori, "They may exceed you in number, but not in value".

[Zazie Rainyday]

Honesty? I have a hard time believing you have the right to judge what I'm like IRL. Not everyone in the world is filled with sugar.

And because you were referring to both, I answered to both, but my vote went to IRL.

I'm sorry if I'm not a saint, but I have no problem with me lying to others, and others lying to me, because as far as I'm concerned, there are plenty of people who aren't worth my time. I share the same motto as Kyoya Ootori, "They may exceed you in number, but not in value".
I'm not saying I have the right to judge you. Nor am I trying to. I was expressing how I see you as a person. I dont see you as a horrible person. I also realize that you are trying to break the mold. I respect that. I dont think you are 'a saint' and I dont expect you to be one. Just take it easy. I'm not trying to force you to be something you are not. Dont freak out because I belive you are essentially a good person. You cant shake my faith in your character once i've made my final judgement. Not that easily at all. Like I said before I know you aint a saint. But I know that you are capable of kindness and such. So dont be so hard on yourself.

[euphoricFUTURE]

PT2004, stop it before you land yourself in trouble. This thread is NOT for questioning or commenting on other people, but rather YOURSELF. I suggest you leave her be and cut it out. If you have some problem with her, you can deal with it on your own time, or just plain leave her alone.

[Zazie Rainyday]

Ok. No problem. Sorry for being a bother. Didnt know I was was breaking any rules. I'll bear that in mind When I post from now on. ^^
Just so everyone knows, I have no problems with her. Just speaking my mind. I meant no harm.
I will say no more on this. I wont cause trouble.

[smiles Vampie!]

I'd rather have both. But never get or got both except for one person. And the one person knows who they are.

[Ryuuji]

I value both, because well it's like butter and cheese,
Faith w/o Loyalty is uncomplete
Loyalty w/o Faith is well, dumb
but then how can you have faith w. your friends but they don't have Loyalty and vice-versa
friendship isn't a game, nor a boz which everybody can play it.....

[Ausaudriel]

I value both, because well it's like butter and cheese,
Faith w/o Loyalty is uncomplete
Loyalty w/o Faith is well, dumb
but then how can you have faith w. your friends but they don't have Loyalty and vice-versa
friendship isn't a game, nor a boz which everybody can play it.....
Butter and cheese? XD Odd analogy.. I agree, though. The two go hand in hand.

[Shinji_]

I value Loyalty, I want a friend that I can count on not some lazy PoopNeck that never helps or does anything that would consider us "friends" Thats my opinion.

[Kayashi]

The numbah 1 thing I wanna have in a friendship is...




girlz

[Jordan]

I do not consider anyone who doesn't give me both a friend in the first place. The lil' back stabbers gets on my last nerves.

Jordan.

[Mewtwo42]

I don't know...I prefer when my friends are loyal to me.

[22sa]

...Unforturnately, I don't give either whole-heartedly. \D

I don't demand faith... because that's just stupid. I have never experienced someone whom has believed in me for the right reasons; they were always in wrong and expected me to act out of character. I played with their expectations when I could but that had a limit.

I don't demand loyalty... not like I'm even going to reach my hand out for their sake or protect them on their convieniance, or even ask how they are.

I can give these two values sparely, but I can't say they've been playing a major part for me.

If you've ever had either of those values kept and maintained in friendship, I appalud you though. I realize their importance but unfortunately they haven't existed in abundance for me. ;D

Opposition is fun! >O

[~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~]

I'll rather have both. I like Loyality and faith in a friend


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