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JJK
October 10th, 2008, 05:36 AM
Zel: No, in GSC these moves were not TM moves, they could be learned by a move tutor Goldenrod for some game corner coins (but yeah it was only in crystal version, but i think i'm not the only one who you would make happy with these moves ^^). TM moves were the elemental punches.
zel modified the TM list to look GSC-ish, but he kept some of them, like those 3.

And i think all us who've been here for a while are sick of the save issues, and that happens because ppl DON'T check the 1st page, they only care about is the download and the page they're posting in. I think the only way to solve this would be to put a header on each page telling ppl to go to the 1st page for all those issues, but unfortunatly i don't think the forums (or vbulletin at all) support that...

gray2345
October 10th, 2008, 07:19 AM
that so so cool i think that it amazing that you made phone booth in replace of the cell phone!

abyssthesavior
October 10th, 2008, 10:43 AM
i need help on this...i dont think this counts as double posting but...sometime between obtaining my 4th badge and preparing to catch lapras i lost all my tms(but not my hms...go figure...) can somebody tell me what i may have done to cause it...or will i have to re download the latest shiny gold rom? thats something i dont wanna do but if theres no other choice...

abyssthesavior

*click!!*....DOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMSSSDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY!!!
*abyss's music plays*

aznking
October 10th, 2008, 05:56 PM
sorry if this is off topic but im trying to find a hack of emerald. the creator has a pic of a black charizard set to default, and in the hack there's a totidile causing mischief everywhere you go. again im sorry that this is off topic.

MrsMime
October 10th, 2008, 06:17 PM
This game is absolutely awesome. I've played alot of Pokemon hacks (especially of FR) but this is by far, hands down, the best. After reading through zel's first post more thoroughly I only just realized that I downloaded "X"! I was wondering why it was so hard! XD

Good job; nearly immaculate, and it's great to have a challenge. Kudos man!

JJK
October 11th, 2008, 01:50 AM
This game is absolutely awesome. I've played alot of Pokemon hacks (especially of FR) but this is by far, hands down, the best. After reading through zel's first post more thoroughly I only just realized that I downloaded "X"! I was wondering why it was so hard! XD

Good job; nearly immaculate, and it's great to have a challenge. Kudos man!
Ah it's not so hard, if i knew anything about scripting i would ask permission to make a XX version...
The problem would be that in the X version the pokes will reach lv. anyway, so it would be a question of filling up falkners team and such

the dark one
October 11th, 2008, 03:21 AM
I remember about Farfetch's sprite, but not sure about the user (I still have the PM, though), if you think you can make a walking sprite, go ahead. But, I'm not sure about if I have created a space for the Farfetch'd to begin with... Have I? :\

And, I inserted the Red Gyarados already. In fact, I just took the same sprite from MD and recolored it to Red, that was pretty basic. I received yours, but we've probably done the same process, and, since now my palettes for overworlds are fixed, it'll have to look as it'll look in the B6.
I have a few questions about you're post. 1. I remember about Farfetch's sprite, but not sure about the user
What do you mean "the user"? 2. I inserted the Red Gyarados already. In fact, I just took the same sprite from MD and recolored it to Red,
What is "MD"? And, are you talking about, the overworld or, the sprite you see in battle (like I was)? 3. Please keep in mind; I have not created a great hack like SG (or finnished ANY hack for that matter) so please forgive my meny questions. You're post has given me an idea, maybe the gyarados could swim in circles (due to its rage), and perhaps (if you like this idea), if you're directly in front of it it triggers the battle. I am aware that the gyarados is stationary in pokemon gold but i think it would be a nice adition to the game, I am not sure if this is posible (or if you want to do it)
but, this is YOU'RE GAME and you must do as you see fit, no-matter what anyone says, and, I'm sure this will be a spectaculer game, no wait, I KNOW IT WILL.

the dark one.

p.s.
feal free to use my idea in anyway you see fit (including editting it).

Da Man
October 11th, 2008, 03:28 AM
What is "MD"?.

Mystery Dungeon, there's been 4 pokemon games so far (2 in both series)

yoshi12370
October 11th, 2008, 07:52 AM
Im stuck! I'm in the last gym and I did all the boulders puzzle but I can't reach clair! the boulder's there but I can't go to clair!

Imaginate
October 11th, 2008, 08:20 AM
Question, after having read the point on the first problem about the save, it says to delete all the save files, then change to flash 128 kb and load. Very well, but wouldnt this delete your save files as you.. chuck em out? and what would there be to load.. Ive just beaten the E4 and I need to save proper to continue, if I can only do this by deleting my file, I think you couldve put the message up a bit bigger o.o

abyssthesavior
October 11th, 2008, 09:10 AM
well i found out my tms were nevver lost but somehow were(and still are) just inaccessable...but idk if this is the place to ask but...in the newer download i got...i tested the gameshark wpm to find mudkip but...i couldnt...then i used the EXACT same code to find it in the other shiny gold game and...i found it...how can a code for a single game be useable in one copy and unuseable in the other when theyre both the same thing?!?!?!?!?! someone please help me on this!!!

abyssthesavior

*click!* DOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMSSSSDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY!!!!!!!! *abyss's music plays*

mattaceten
October 11th, 2008, 11:26 AM
well i found out my tms were nevver lost but somehow were(and still are) just inaccessable...but idk if this is the place to ask but...in the newer download i got...i tested the gameshark wpm to find mudkip but...i couldnt...then i used the EXACT same code to find it in the other shiny gold game and...i found it...how can a code for a single game be useable in one copy and unuseable in the other when theyre both the same thing?!?!?!?!?! someone please help me on this!!!

dunno why it wont work...but zel says cheats shouldnt be used anyway. it ruins the game. find a mudkip on ur own (hint: its in a cave)

MrsMime
October 11th, 2008, 12:10 PM
Ah it's not so hard, if i knew anything about scripting i would ask permission to make a XX version...
The problem would be that in the X version the pokes will reach lv. anyway, so it would be a question of filling up falkners team and such
No, but compared to the Nintendo-sealed Pokemon Gold it was quite a step up. I love it though. :D

abyssthesavior
October 11th, 2008, 01:47 PM
dunno why it wont work...but zel says cheats shouldnt be used anyway. it ruins the game. find a mudkip on ur own (hint: its in a cave)


>_>...<_<...o_o...dude i knew where its at...but right now i guess ill find it and ralts w/out the codes...yea i found out where ralts is located...u wana know where? heres a hint...its the final part of a nursery rhyme song..."next time wont u sing with me?" if u cant figure it out then...well its actually impossible not to figure it out...lol XD thanx anyway

abyssthesavior


*click* ....DOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMSSSDAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY!!!!
*abyss's music plays*

P.S. if u cant figure it out then PM me k? :)

Dark Sakurati
October 11th, 2008, 06:43 PM
Okay, I don't know if this has been reported but...In Ilex Forest, the shrine walk in front of it players head choped off (Tile glitch), outside of Ice Path...the snow mountain, look carefully at the bottem level you will see snow that goes straight into grass (Tile glitch), anyways I got a problem, I got the ghostbuster but...I need to find the guy who knows how to use it (Please help:() thank you anyone who helps:P

abyssthesavior
October 11th, 2008, 07:37 PM
well i figured out sumthin...strangly enough i can use the wpm to encounter certain pokemon in the grass...but not where they are normally found...the pokemon im talkin bout is ralts...anyone care to help? and its firered gameshark wpm cheat...i need to know why i can encounter ralts in grass w/wpm but not in ruins of alph w/wpm...eh probably will be different with mudkips...if this is a double post then i apologize for that...

SonicBlue777
October 11th, 2008, 07:42 PM
K i got a question about the goldenrod city gambling area, one of the prizes is a charmander... soo if i were to restart and pick todadile (currently Im with Cyndaquil) and went back would it still be Charmander or a Squrritle?..


someone reply to me asap if you know this xD

deadlyangel91792
October 11th, 2008, 08:50 PM
it would still be charmander but if i were u i would get chickorita as a starter then capture a mudkip in the cave u go through to get to azalea town then get charmander at the game place

⋚Raika⋚
October 11th, 2008, 09:12 PM
uhh version X is the harder one? no wonder the chikorita was so tough! ( i had to train my totodile to lv 14 to beat the rival's lv 8 chikorita lol)

SonicBlue777
October 11th, 2008, 09:37 PM
it would still be charmander but if i were u i would get chickorita as a starter then capture a mudkip in the cave u go through to get to azalea town then get charmander at the game place


I hate grass types, lol

but I'm intrigued how/where do you get the Mudskip o.0? like where in the water in the union cave? with the old rod? is it very rare? reply back ^^ il just get the larvitar then lol ^^

deathmoon
October 11th, 2008, 10:05 PM
I hate grass types, lol

but I'm intrigued how/where do you get the Mudskip o.0? like where in the water in the union cave? with the old rod? is it very rare? reply back ^^ il just get the larvitar then lol ^^

Problem is that larvitar is 100k...... However, it could take up to 2 hours to find mudkip, it normally takes me approximately that long to find one while playing through the game.

uhh version X is the harder one? no wonder the chikorita was so tough! ( i had to train my totodile to lv 14 to beat the rival's lv 8 chikorita lol)


I thought that stupid slowpoke was harder... I mean ffs... It can curse and spam yawn at lv 5:cross-eye...

dirk123
October 12th, 2008, 12:39 AM
I hate grass types, lol

but I'm intrigued how/where do you get the Mudskip o.0? like where in the water in the union cave? with the old rod? is it very rare? reply back ^^ il just get the larvitar then lol ^^

It's in the same room when you first enter the game.
It is on the normal ground, not in the water.
Chances of finding one are very low, although some people find one after their 3rd or 4th encounter.

clonex25
October 12th, 2008, 02:12 AM
zel, that last minigame's worth the challenge! im am drooling for beta6 (jokes!)

BTW to all the GSC music fanatics, i've included two versions of the low-pitched johto wild pokemon battle (due to insistent public demand). click in the link under my signature.

JJK
October 12th, 2008, 02:59 AM
As for Mudkip: Yes, it is hard to find, I was lucky to find one after half an hour, but by that time all my pokes in lvs 13/14, so i had to struggle him to low health (?!), otherwise either he escaped or i knocked him out...
But beleive me, Swampert is a very very hot ingame poke, his balanced stats allow him to do almost everything, and good. I play the X version, and in the hardest match (last with amelia) i had my pokes almost 15 lvs below her's, and swampy knocked out 2 of them...
Believe me, it is worth all the hassle.

Hoshiko Aki
October 12th, 2008, 03:29 AM
Great hack. I love this hack :D

iwuzhere9
October 12th, 2008, 06:18 AM
this is an awesome hack. Looking forward to future releases :D

El Moss
October 12th, 2008, 09:18 AM
ANY questions about the gameplay of Shiny Gold should be posted here:

http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=123140&highlight=Shiny+Gold

otherwise the thread will be full of useless junk, only post glitches, ideas & contributions, also don't post a comment that only says "Well Done Zel, your hack is awesome!!!!!111" make sure you at least post something useful before all the praise.

AND I WILL ONLY SAY THIS ONCE!!!

To save in-game you must delete all previous save files and THEN change the save type to 128K, it doesn't matter how far you are, the game will not take pity on you... Until you have done this, their's no getting past the league.

Right, I think that about covers my general annoyance towards all the spam.

JJK
October 12th, 2008, 12:40 PM
^ The problem is, that will only work for this page... we really needed to have that in the beggining of every page, like some sort of header, but i don't think vbulletin supports that

Chairzard
October 12th, 2008, 01:31 PM
I've beaten this sexy games so many times now, is there any other gold/silver remakes that are finished?

poddish
October 12th, 2008, 02:50 PM
Earlier I posted that if you don't get the everstone from elm until after you beat the pkmn league, you can't get the master ball, well there's another glitch I found, I was playing, and some pokeballs just appeared in the balls slot, AND 1 OF THEM WAS A MASTERBALL!!! Anyway you should fix both because it could work the other way around: ie: you lose some balls.

balkj06
October 12th, 2008, 09:10 PM
Hey Zel

I don't know if you know this but in Pokemon fire Red there is a place
called five island

also the leader of Team Rocket is GIOVANNI

well after you defect him and obtian the 8th badge in Fire Red
then Team Rocket has no leader

or does team rocket have a new leader?

in five island there is the Rocket hideout after Team Rocket runs away on the computer is this...

A report with graphs and text is on the PC monitor. The Influence of Magnetic Waves on POKéMON Evolution .........too difficult to understand

that reminded me of Pokemon GOLD and the lake of rage when the magickarp are focused into Evolotion

then after you beat pokemon fire red go to the place with the guy who gives you the sappire he saids this.....

What, you again? You You're not GIOVANNI's kid, are you? No, that can't be right! GIOVANNI's kid has red hair. You don't have any reasons for bugging me. Leave me alone!

wait... Red hair the only one in the games with red hair in the game is SLIVER
GOIVANNI'S kid?

that told me SLIVER is GOIVANNI's son and the leader of Team Rocket

why because you don't vs SLIVER when Team Rocket is around and after you save Kurt Sliver battles you and saids Team Rocket is the worst because they Failed...

So Zel in your hack can you please make it SLIVER the leader of team Rocket because he is....( if not how does Team Rocket do this on there own without a leader)

don't belive look it up in Adance Map

Balkj06

Sarcastic Prince
October 13th, 2008, 02:10 AM
Hey Zel

I don't know if you know this but in Pokemon fire Red there is a place
called five island

also the leader of Team Rocket is GIOVANNI

well after you defect him and obtian the 8th badge in Fire Red
then Team Rocket has no leader

or does team rocket have a new leader?

in five island there is the Rocket hideout after Team Rocket runs away on the computer is this...

A report with graphs and text is on the PC monitor. The Influence of Magnetic Waves on POKéMON Evolution .........too difficult to understand

that reminded me of Pokemon GOLD and the lake of rage when the magickarp are focused into Evolotion

then after you beat pokemon fire red go to the place with the guy who gives you the sappire he saids this.....

What, you again? You You're not GIOVANNI's kid, are you? No, that can't be right! GIOVANNI's kid has red hair. You don't have any reasons for bugging me. Leave me alone!

wait... Red hair the only one in the games with red hair in the game is SLIVER
GOIVANNI'S kid?

that told me SLIVER is GOIVANNI's son and the leader of Team Rocket

why because you don't vs SLIVER when Team Rocket is around and after you save Kurt Sliver battles you and saids Team Rocket is the worst because they Failed...

So Zel in your hack can you please make it SLIVER the leader of team Rocket because he is....( if not how does Team Rocket do this on there own without a leader)

don't belive look it up in Adance Map

Balkj06

Dude, Team Rocket has Executives to give commands to them.

Ravecat
October 13th, 2008, 02:25 AM
It's a pity Kanto isn't finished, but I'll enjoy playing Johto again.

I was waiting until I had a slot-2 to play this, starting it up now.

edit: oh ok it isn't working; ****ing ez3-in-1.

Tropical Sunlight
October 13th, 2008, 05:21 AM
Hey zel are you going to include the day/night system?

Sarcastic Prince
October 13th, 2008, 05:33 AM
Hey zel are you going to include the day/night system?

It depends if Mastermind figuired out on how to do the Day/Noght System

on Fire Red.

tentakilini
October 13th, 2008, 06:53 AM
Great hack, but will you put old rivals like Crys ore Leaf on your new island?

mattaceten
October 13th, 2008, 07:24 AM
Great hack, but will you put old rivals like Crys ore Leaf on your new island?

Zel said crystal wont be a rival because shes the heroine and they did that in fire red and he wants it to be GOLD. As for leaf i dont even know who that is. :P. Hoping Cryystal IS who you were talking about.

tentakilini
October 13th, 2008, 08:13 AM
I have some questions about Shiny Gold: Are you going to make an silver remake after you finished Shiny Gold? And have you got a remixed version of the theme, wich apears while a Rocket grunt seas you and wants to battle you? Someone from youtube has found it as an secret music in Ruby/ Saphire. Here`s the link: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=-8YS9XOLlKQ

Banjora Marxvile
October 13th, 2008, 08:26 AM
I have some questions about Shiny Gold: Are you going to make an silver remake after you finished Shiny Gold? And have you got a remixed version of the theme, wich apears while a Rocket grunt seas you and wants to battle you? Someone from youtube has found it as an secret music in Ruby/ Saphire. Here`s the link: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=-8YS9XOLlKQ

Zel isn't making a Silver remake. Also, I think Beta 6 will have remixed Rocket music..

El Moss
October 13th, 2008, 09:24 AM
I have some questions about Shiny Gold: Are you going to make an silver remake after you finished Shiny Gold? And have you got a remixed version of the theme, wich apears while a Rocket grunt seas you and wants to battle you? Someone from youtube has found it as an secret music in Ruby/ Saphire. Here`s the link: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=-8YS9XOLlKQ

Shiny Gold is a silver remake AND a gold remake... AND MORE!!! Yay, Shiny Gold... I've just gone against my own last post but I couldn't resist...

Also, about the whole getting people to know the basics maybe Zel could change the first post so that just above the downloads is the saving info. It's their own fault for not reading about it, but it is slightly annoying...

sirboulevard
October 13th, 2008, 09:39 AM
Zel did just add the saving issues to the Bugs list on the first page! Everyone check there please and please try cut down on spamming this thread.

Giovanni Boss
October 13th, 2008, 12:47 PM
In manga Silver is Giovanni's son, actually, but he doesn't command TR. And would be really weird, considering Silver's personality.

zel 2.0
October 13th, 2008, 05:41 PM
Zel: No, in GSC these moves were not TM moves, they could be learned by a move tutor Goldenrod for some game corner coins (but yeah it was only in crystal version, but i think i'm not the only one who you would make happy with these moves ^^). TM moves were the elemental punches.

Well, you can be happy because BOTH the elemental punches and the Thunderbolt/IceBeam/Flamethrower combo are all TMs (I had my doubts about having it this way, but I think the punches are an asset from the GBC-gen)

And i think all us who've been here for a while are sick of the save issues, and that happens because ppl DON'T check the 1st page, they only care about is the download and the page they're posting in. I think the only way to solve this would be to put a header on each page telling ppl to go to the 1st page for all those issues, but unfortunatly i don't think the forums (or vbulletin at all) support that...

We'll just have to stand them a bit longer, but once I change the "Please Exchange Memory" with more detailed instructions about what to do to make the game work, people will realize what to do and those messages will drastically disappear.

Ah it's not so hard, if i knew anything about scripting i would ask permission to make a XX version...
The problem would be that in the X version the pokes will reach lv. anyway, so it would be a question of filling up falkners team and such

My idea is that having low level wild Pokemon makes the training harder, considering you face harder trainers. That's why I left the wild Pokemon as in the "normal" version.

Additionally, having all the leaders and other people have full parties right from the start doesnt sound like a good idea. It'd lose a bit of the "normality" of every Pokemon game.

And in the end, we know that the real challenge is always in battling real people. Despite all the efforts you can put, the machine's AI will always give its best to ruin all your strategies >.<

I have a few questions about you're post. 1.
What do you mean "the user"? 2.
What is "MD"? And, are you talking about, the overworld or, the sprite you see in battle (like I was)? 3. Please keep in mind; I have not created a great hack like SG (or finnished ANY hack for that matter) so please forgive my meny questions. You're post has given me an idea, maybe the gyarados could swim in circles (due to its rage), and perhaps (if you like this idea), if you're directly in front of it it triggers the battle. I am aware that the gyarados is stationary in pokemon gold but i think it would be a nice adition to the game, I am not sure if this is posible (or if you want to do it)
but, this is YOU'RE GAME and you must do as you see fit, no-matter what anyone says, and, I'm sure this will be a spectaculer game, no wait, I KNOW IT WILL.

the dark one.

p.s.
feal free to use my idea in anyway you see fit (including editting it).

I was just refering that I didnt remember if you were the person who sent me the Farfetch'd sprite a few months ago (I still have the PM, though ;)), just that.

For 2, I was refering to the overworld, because Pokemon will get resprites from Marnic (but, not sure if ALL of them, most likely the Johto ones will have one)

And 3, sounds... interesting. I'll think about it.

well i found out my tms were nevver lost but somehow were(and still are) just inaccessable...but idk if this is the place to ask but...in the newer download i got...i tested the gameshark wpm to find mudkip but...i couldnt...then i used the EXACT same code to find it in the other shiny gold game and...i found it...how can a code for a single game be useable in one copy and unuseable in the other when theyre both the same thing?!?!?!?!?! someone please help me on this!!!

abyssthesavior

*click!* DOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMSSSSDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY!!!!!!!! *abyss's music plays*

I dont know neither. But, since the problem resides in the use of a cheat I dont care about the problem. Sad, but being honest, I dont like cheats nor cheaters.

zel, that last minigame's worth the challenge! im am drooling for beta6 (jokes!)

BTW to all the GSC music fanatics, i've included two versions of the low-pitched johto wild pokemon battle (due to insistent public demand). click in the link under my signature.

Hope you and Maginus will be around during the next week, because I'll start with the music insertion and I may need a hand or two :)

Earlier I posted that if you don't get the everstone from elm until after you beat the pkmn league, you can't get the master ball, well there's another glitch I found, I was playing, and some pokeballs just appeared in the balls slot, AND 1 OF THEM WAS A MASTERBALL!!! Anyway you should fix both because it could work the other way around: ie: you lose some balls.

Havent you used any cheat? Because for me the game is quite stable, and unless the weird problem happens to me, I cant work on a solution for a problem that I dont have.

Dude, Team Rocket has Executives to give commands to them.

In the original they were trying to make Giovanni come back, but Gold/Crystal makes their plans fail. That's part of the GSC plot and cannot be changed. It wouldnt be Gold otherwise.

Hey zel are you going to include the day/night system?

Not in my list of priorities. I leave open the possibility in a future but it's not like "Oh, I'm desperate to have day/night in my game", if it happens, it happens, if not...

---

Alright. As I said in one of my earlier posts, I'll be asking for the thread to be closed for another while. I have finished all the minigames which means I wont have anything to show until I start to beta test. And for that, I need to finish the last puzzle of the Trick House (in the end, seemed that I had planned three puzzles instead of two); then, decide and insert the tracks clonex and Magnius have been showing you; finally, do the heavy first run of bug fixing. After that, comes the beta testing and the thread will be reopened.

I guess the bug fixing is what will get me more busy, unless we get problems while inserting tracks (I doubt it), but, of course, I have no idea of how much time it'll require. Bug fixing is tedious so if I'm not with the best mood, it could take a while. Of course, if you will ask me in PMs or Profile messages "when will you release Beta6?", you will get my usual "I dont know" for answer (if you get any, I may not reply to you if I'm annoyed enough '-_-)

Alright. The thread will be closed, so dont waste your time in asking me anything here. Better do it in the Profile if you have anything really important to ask.
And, if you have a question about Gameplay, the SG Help Thread is still open, so post there: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=123140

That's all. Till I reopen the thread (I'll still be active on the forums, just in case you were wondering... Oh well, as active as I can be, you are probably used to my scarce activity, arent you?)