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zel 2.0
August 14th, 2007, 02:24 PM
"Why would we bother about making a remake, if a kid's already doing it for us?" - Welcome to...

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Just to let you know who I am, not that you care much about it, eh?

I'm ZEL, does the name ring a bell? Then how about "I'm the guy behind the game called Shiny Gold", yes, I think the game's name does sound more familiar...
Well, Shiny Gold is a rom hack (which means it must be played on a emulator, if you ever got the pirated version then it's not my business, ask for a refund if you can), also it's a fan game I do whenever I get bored of my Uni life.
Unlike some other more advanced hackers, I'm still an unexperienced rom hacker learning to do all kinds of stuff (this is my first hack, after all), though, scripting is my strong point, and you'll notice it when you play the game.
Even when Shiny Gold has become a popular hack, I don't want to consider it only because its popularity (well gained), because there are many other aspects interesting to the game (and because it would be a little offensive to all the hard work I put in this whole year of production), but play it if you want. And don't forget that, as me, there are a lot of other rom hackers giving their best efforts to bring you quality games, you should be checking those games as well^^
Meh, I'm not used to long speeches, so let's get back into business shall we?

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Stuff you need to know about the game (in order to make it work, you know, just read H.Sotomura's Before Playing a Hack thread (http://www.pkmncommunity.com/showthread.php?t=73966))

Hack Name: Pokémon Shiny Gold
Hack Of: Pokémon http://members.optusnet.com.au/soanevalcke/famepublication/badge-firered.png
Author: Zel

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Here I post all the planned and already implemented features the hack has/will have. For the planned stuff, I usually think on smaller things
so I don't tend to promise a lot of impossible features (if there can be bigger things obviously I won't reveal them, just in case I fail at making them)

:pokeball: Don't think this is gonna be a 100% Gold Remake, it'll have its differences.
:pokeball: Extra battles (some'll be optionals, tough but rewarding)
:pokeball: Hoenn Pokemon (in every area, and hard to find)
:pokeball: New areas
:pokeball: GS music (remixed thx to clonex25, birthofdna and Magnius)
:pokeball: Remapped some dungeons (so your old guides wont work, je) :)
:pokeball: Extra recurring characters (some'll hate you, some'll help you)
:pokeball: Phone booths in replace of the phone system of the PokéGear
:pokeball: The return of the Trick House with new puzzles!
:pokeball: Plans for the future: Some moves will have field effects.
:pokeball: More to come...

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Here you will be able to keep track on the threads latest news, without needing to be reading lots of pages!
(All the last info happening on the hack OR the thread will be listed here with a link to the corresponding post)

Date/Event/Link to Post
8-Aug-2007 New Thread on Pokecommunity Go To Post (http://www.pkmncommunity.com/showpost.php?p=2754392&postcount=1)
7-Sep-2007 New Video Uploaded Go To Post (http://www.pkmncommunity.com/showpost.php?p=2858683&postcount=518)
10-Sep-2007 Two more Videos Uploaded Go To Post (http://www.pkmncommunity.com/showpost.php?p=2870560&postcount=564)
17-Sep-2007 New Screenshots Season Starts Go To Post (http://www.pkmncommunity.com/showpost.php?p=2895930&postcount=663)
29-Sep-2007 Video about the Legendary Beasts Uploaded Go To Post (http://www.pkmncommunity.com/showpost.php?p=2942139&postcount=849)
31-Dec-2007 Thread reopened and normal Shiny Gold B5 gets posted Go To Post (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=3211350&postcount=1090)
4-Jan-2008 Version X gets released Go To Post (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=3223258&postcount=1289)
22-Apr-2008 Thread reopened (again -_-) Go To Post (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=3521859&postcount=1944)


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Check this section often, as it will tell you how far I am from my goals and where the next Beta is planned to end

How this should be read: FINISHED WORKING NEXT


Add the legendary's OWs (should be done quickly)
Thinking/Mapping and Implementing the mini-games and Trick House puzzles (this will surely take SOME time)
Adding more GSC music remixes (variable time, not sure)
Do a first bug fixing on the list of known bugs (may also take some time)
Start the Beta testing and keep fixing bugs from the list or the ones detect through the testing (most likely, two weeks)
Release the Beta

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This is my personal status, if I ever have to do something different than being rom hacking (like leaving or having to study),
I'll write it here. Just to avoid any "where's zel or what is he doing?" talk

Zel's Current Status is: "Got a new job, so that, combined with the usual college assignments, leaves me few hacking time during the week. I'll try to see how I can order my schedule, but for sure, hack's development will be delayed greatly T_T"

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Pictures, and links to videos will be here

SCREENSHOTS!
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VIDEOS!
Naranja Falls Minigame http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fczguNt3aRU
The Matchup Minigame http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6tY9hPAblg
The Digging Minigame http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPIyo12QHZ4
Champion (Lance) music, by clonex25 (not yet inserted, comments needed)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L1y4qRxyM0
Meeting the Legendary Beasts (thx to Baro for explanation on Level Scripts)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDiqIY8dQHo&v3
Registering Trainers on Phone Card
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T7piAM6CNQ
Getting Rematch Battles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcNquWRzBZA
Using the Phone Booth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvRS5WViYAE
Battling the Red Gyarados (thx again to Mastermind_X)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p071fK_V9eo
Elite 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GvBNV3zkbw
Headbutt Trees
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F2Y28WkiC8
Kurt's Script - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i35bmGby1vI
Kurt's Script - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lCy4it-pR4
Gold's remixed music sounding on SG (thx again to birthofdna)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXZC_HtlThs

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Before you try to ask something check the following list of common questions, none of this questions should be asked again, because Rule No.4 applies to them

List last Updated on: 2008-01-07

GENERAL FAQS---

Q: Why are my posts getting deleted??? (C)
A: Well, don't forget that, besides the usual Rom Hacking section rules <link>, some additional rules (in the Rules section in this post) were added in order to keep the thread cleaner and nicer, as long as mods really take their job seriously.

Q: Can I patch over an older patched Beta? Can I continue from an older Beta save? (C)
A: To my knowledge, both answers are negative. Patching over patching and using an older Beta save bring a lot of more errors than when playing the game normally from the beginning. So, don't get too attached to your Pokemon while playing the Beta versions.

Q: Is this game Complete? When will it be complete? (C)
A: It's still in Betas Phases, and there's no way I could tell a date, not even an approximation. Don't want to say a date, just for saying later "I didn't make it on time". So, it'll be finished when it's finished.

Q: Is this a 100% remake? I want a 100% remake!!! (C)
A: It will NEVER be a 100% remake. If you understand that, then let's proceed. I will be adding some extra events and specially some extra locations after the defeat of Red, just because I want the game to be longer than the original was. And, the other thing is that it's just too dificult to add some features that the original had. Then it'll never be a "pure" remake.

Q: How far does the Beta go? Where does the Beta ends? (C)
A: Ehhhmmm... Didn't you notice the big sign saying "Beta's Length" when you downloaded the last release?

Q: When will the next Beta be released? (C)
A: As soon as I reach my "Second Goal", don't forget I hack as I'm playing the original Gold, so as soon as I reach a certain point, which I call my "Second Goal", I will release the Beta (by the way, in the "First Goal" I always start to release screenshots of the next Beta)

Q: How many more Betas will there be? (C)
A: Let's see... The next release (Beta5) will go up to Fuchsia, then Beta6 will go up to Mt.Silver, then Beta7 will have all the extra locations and events, then a few bugfixes till we get the free-of-glitches final version

Q: Are all Pokemon in? (C)
A: The correct answer is all 1st, 2nd and 3rd generation will be in (this includes all the legendaries as well) But, since the 4th belong to Sinnoh, they won't be in, even if there are some slots to put some of them. A definitive no.

Q: Will you make the three birds catchable? (C)
A: Not answering how you'll get them, but you'll get them.

Q: Is the GS-Ball in? Is Celebi in?(C)
A: Yes, it is. You obtain it during your first trip to Kanto. This also means the Celebi event is in as well (read the walkthrough if you want more information)

Q: Which starters can I find? (C)
A: I will not directly say that information, but you may want to check the walkthrough for that.

Q: Will there be night/day or Pokegear? (C) (Changed the answer a bit)
A: After thinking for a while, I'm not really gonna implement it, consider it as one of my deviations. What I'm trying to do now is looking for alternatives to Pokégear's functions. However, about day/night it's certainly a possibilty

Q: Is Kanto in? And what about Hoenn, Sevii, Battle Frontier, etc? (C)
A: Since this is a remake, both Johto and Kanto are in. But the rest won't be, obviously. If you are wondering how I am putting Johto and Kanto, well, I'm just overwriting the Sevii for my Johto.

Q: Will this have G/S music? (C)
A: Yes, thanks to birthofdna and Magnius' help. So, just wait for the next releases. By the way, I plan on putting some DP music (a few) for the extra parts of the game.

Q: Do you know that FR has some GSC music already? (C)
A: Yes, yes. I know that.

Q: And what will you do with the Silver exclusives? (C)
A: They are also gonna be (in their respective locations), but rare (not as rare as the Hoenn Pokemon, but expect to wander around a bit to find them)

Q: Will you do a stronger E4? (C)
A: First, remember you have the "X" version for a harder challenge. And then, there's gonna be a second wave for the time you need to battle again to go to Mt.Silver.

Q: Does anybody have codes for SG? (C)
A: Refering to cheat codes, huh? Well, SG is FR in the end, so FR's codes will work. However, I'll always discourage the use of cheats. Specially after a few people seemed to have problems after using some cheats.

Q: What is SGX, and what's the difference? (C)
A: SGX (Shiny Gold "X"), is an edited version of Shiny Gold. Its only purpose is to give a harder time to the player when battling against other trainers or leaders. It's a bit less remake this way, but it is more challenging.

Q: I want to play SG on my real GBA (C)
A: The answer is simple: Buy a flashcard, that's all I can really say about it, because I don't know about flashcards or the process to put a game into one. However, that's stuff that does not relate to the topic. So ask somewhere else.

Q: Will you do Silver, Crystal? (C)
A: No. Shiny Gold stands on its own to be a single game.

GAMEPLAY FAQS---

Q: Why can't I go into the Lighthouse? (C)
A: Because you are playing a really old Beta. Probably, if you are playing a bought version, that means you got the "pirate" version, and so, I cannot be responsible for that (if you can, get a refund). The latest releases are meant only to work on PCs, without spending money on them (and they reach further than the pirate versions). Get the rom and my patch in order to play.

Q: Why can't I enter the Ice Path? (C)
A: Because you have an old Beta, so just download the last release.

Q: Wow! I found a Hoenn Pokemon, is something wrong? (C)
A: Not at all, Hoenn Pokemon can be found running wild at every route and every dungeon, but, being Hoenn Pokemon at Johto/Kanto, they are really rare to find.

Q: I can't do the Farfetch'd event! Help! (C)
A: If you want a better explanation, you'll have to read the walkthrough.

Q: Why has been altered the Badges Order? or... Where can I get the third Badge? (C)
A: These are related. The Badges Order has been modified in order to give them in the order of Gold, however, we must respect FR's order for their HM effects, so you'll see them in a different order in your Trainer Card, but their HM effects remain as in the original.

Q: I can't find the Whirlpool HM!!! (C)
A: Search the moves from the Clamperl you receive from Lance, it has the Whirlpool move. If you released it, then the only way is to capture another Pokemon with the move, such as Wailmer or some other who can learn the move naturally.

Q: Where is the Machine Part? (C)
A: Look in the corresponding spoiler in the Tourist Center section in this same post (don't forget it will show up after you've done the Amelia event at the Power Plant)

Q: How do the trading-evolution Pokemon evolve? (C)
A: If you got the answer "you must trade, as always", just ignore that answer. At Shiny Gold those kind of Pokemon will evolve thru new ways, most of the time, with the use of stones, or at a certain Level. I don't like spoiling that info, but you have the walkthrough that may help you with some of the Poke.

Q: I have the Spearow with the mail and the fat guy I'm supposed to deliver the mail to won't accept it! (C)
A: In fact, all you need to do is remove the mail from the Spearow, as he cares about the mail, not the Pokémon.

Q: How can I get Umbreon or Espeon? (C)
A: By using a Moon or Sun Stone respectively. Find the stones yourself or search in the walkthrough.

Q: Why do the non-Johto starters seem to be at Lv1? (C)
A: Because they aren't called "starters" for anything.

Q: How can I obtain <insert legendary here>? (C)
A: In B5 you will be able to obtain Ho-oh, Celebi, the three legendary dogs and Jirachi, you may want to read the walkthrough if you want to know how to get (some of) them. About the rest... The ones that showed up at Gold will mantain their events, and the rest have their events already planned. Most of them will be obtainable in their own events and at the Final Release.

Q: Where do I get Rock Smash? (C)
A: Yay, a pretty common question that should be in the walkthrough, but I'll answer here anyway. You get the HM from the fat guy to the right of Sudowoodo, as soon as you defeat or capture the tree.

Q: What's the deal behind the Jirachi?
A: I'm not gonna answer this for a long time, someone has to discover it.

PROBLEMS CAUSED BY BAD ROMS OR PATCHING PROBLEMS---

Q: How come Carlos (or other trainers) has a MissingNo. with Wonder Guard? I cannot hit it! (C)
A: Patching or bad rom problem. Make sure to be patching over a clean FR rom (you may suspect about the rom, so getting one from a different site could help)

Q: Why do my starter is not evolving? (C)
A: Patching or bad rom problem. I have played with all the starters and they evolved just fine.

Q: What happened to my TM case? Why are my Pokemon not obeying and my name is changed?
A: Patching or bad rom problem, most likely. I am not certain. In the end, if you want to avoid this kind of problems, you could: Make sure the game saves and loads normally (so it can save at the E4), but then just use save states. It could be risky, though

For further information, check the full list, with common and uncommon questions: http://www.geocities.com/zelard_b/faqs_full.txt

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These are all the problems reported in the game. They are a lot, but, not all of them are critical, and not all of them are even bugs, rather stuff that will behave differently. Just pay attention to the status/fixable part if you want to know more about what I'm planning to do about it.

Use the CODE number for easier reference when talking about bugs (when they get repeated)
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Maybe it could be too much with this list being an image file, but I did it to save me some time. If you think this messes up the thread, or the forums (or the connection of people XD), just tell me and I'll try to think on something else... ;)

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Here's a good list of banners, along with the HTML codes needed for them to work in your sig, so just copy and paste whatever you like

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/9171/shinygold3mi4.png (http://www.theud.com/pokecommunity/showthread.php?t=100537) thanks goes to martijn
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/9171/shinygold3mi4.png (http://www.theud.com/pokecommunity/showthread.php?t=100537)

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5579/goldrm6.gif (http://www.theud.com/pokecommunity/showthread.php?t=100537) thanks goes to flipboi
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5579/goldrm6.gif (http://www.theud.com/pokecommunity/showthread.php?t=100537)

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3513/gold2gp0.gif (http://www.theud.com/pokecommunity/showthread.php?t=100537) thanks goes to flipboi
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3513/gold2gp0.gif (http://www.theud.com/pokecommunity/showthread.php?t=100537)

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7015/pkmnshinygoldsa2.jpg (http://pkmncommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537) thanks goes to yaziyo
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7015/pkmnshinygoldsa2.jpg (http://pkmncommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537)

http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/7/1/7/f_SGBanneri_06aem_68a5e022.jpg (http://pkmncommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537) thanks goes to Marz
http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/7/1/7/f_SGBanneri_06aem_68a5e022.jpg (http://pkmncommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537)

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x43/FurankiPkmnMaster/ShinyGoldBanner.png (http://pkmncommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537) thanks goes to Cartman
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x43/FurankiPkmnMaster/ShinyGoldBanner.png (http://pkmncommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537)

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s276/Marz_rulez/Requests/ShinyGoldbanner2.png (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537) thanks goes to Marz
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s276/Marz_rulez/Requests/ShinyGoldbanner2.png (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537)

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/LavaLeaderDarkar/POKMONshinygoldsupport.png (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537) thanks goes to Bakuphoon
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/LavaLeaderDarkar/POKMONshinygoldsupport.png (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537)

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh138/jorexsuper/support.gif (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537) thanks goes to FireFlame
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh138/jorexsuper/support.gif (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537)

http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/4/7/20/f_ShinyGoldSum_ca42681.png (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537) thanks goes to Andinator
http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/4/7/20/f_ShinyGoldSum_ca42681.png (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537)

http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/3/8/8/f_ShinyGoldBam_e09059a.png (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537) thanks goes to Andinator
http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/3/8/8/f_ShinyGoldBam_e09059a.png (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537)

http://i36.tinypic.com/2r5euxs.jpg (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537) thanks goes to darkshade
http://i36.tinypic.com/2r5euxs.jpg (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537)

http://img37.picoodle.com/data/img37/3/9/3/f_ShinyGoldBam_fab0a9f.png (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537) thanks goes to Andinator
http://img37.picoodle.com/data/img37/3/9/3/f_ShinyGoldBam_fab0a9f.png (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537)

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/Roddypiper24/userbar.gif?t=1222733231 (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537) thanks goes to Lawliet
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/Roddypiper24/userbar.gif?t=1222733231 (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=100537)

These ones by flipboi are cool, if you want to use them...

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http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/2640/crystalsi1.gif
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8980/silverba4.gif
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2257/pirateswi9.gif
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2257/pirateswi9.gif

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/3459/specialthankspa1.jpg
Even though the game will have a similar section (and the Intro Message at the game contains a few thanks to the people who helped for the last release),
I think it is necessary to make a list with all the people who have been helping me through the different development and testing phases

WAH (www.wah.studiopokemon.com) and Sergio (hosting and care for my hack, also Sergio for some scripting tips)
Pokecommunity (hosting and being a place where I feel I belong)
Youtube and its people (part of the game's popularity is because of their videos)
Marnic (sprites)
Gridiron and Fangking Omega (sprites, tiles, and being a nexus with the people of Project Platinum, to whom I wish the best of luck)
Enrico Marini (sprites)
Red (some sprites & some scripting tips)
Green Charizard for the PC and Mart tiles (editted by me, since I had to make them the same size as in B4), sorry GC, I forgot to add you in the credits in the intro of the game...
Marz, flipboi, Shurikenway, Erimgard, Went and Raz (testing)
Neos (title screen)
Mastermind_X (for the shiny hack, and general advice)
foullump For telling me about how the bike problems could be fixed... Though now there are more problems involving running... XD
birthofdna, Magnius, clonex25 (musical stuff)
Teh Baro (for his guides on some special scripts, and for his guide about level scripts)
dirk123 (walkthrough)
Giovanni Boss (SG-Dex)
~JIM~ and Rogy, from SP forums (for their Phone tiles)
The tools creators, without them this hack could not exist
The people who had been posting bugs, but not being repeatitive
That's all I can remember right now, if I forgot somebody, send me a PM

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I'll post any walkthrough (or pics, or whatever helps to avoid getting questions about the current releases gameplay) you want to do
on the game (being it about the whole game or specific parts), since I don't want an "Official" guide, anyone can make his/her own

Guides for the Original Gold game at Gamefaqs: http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbcolor/game/198308.html
Guide to dirk123's walkthrough (with edits by CrisG14: http://www.pkmncommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37737&d=1187216916
Site with Barker's walkthrough:http://www.freewebs.com/shinygoldwalkthrough/
Site with Aquilae's walkthrough (SGX):http://www.freewebs.com/aquilae/shinygoldwalkthrough.htm
Site with Bylsma's walkthrough : http://www.freewebs.com/pokemonwalkthroughs123/shinygoldwalkthrough.htm
Post with the solution to Farfetch's puzzle (by Shurikenway): http://www.pkmncommunity.com/showpost.php?p=2363558&postcount=1794
Or, try with this video JoyRide made:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRfMVRCScr4
Stop wondering where does this Pokemon can be found! SG-B5 Pokedex by Giovanni Boss (requires Excel or program able to read .xls files): http://www.sendspace.com/file/lwxl38

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5492/downloadcs6.jpg
Here will be the Betas and other goodies you could download, so it's the most important place in this first post!

The Beta ends at Fuchsia. Even though you are more free to do events in your own way this time. Basically, you can explore the center/east of Kanto.
Don't forget to check this thread before trying to play the Hack! (http://www.pkmncommunity.com/showthread.php?t=73966)
If you have problems, don't forget to check the Walkthrough in the Tourist Section just above!

sudden_hit
August 15th, 2007, 05:39 AM
Ive been play this hack for a day now, its fantastic!! i would recomend anybody to download this.

Corona
August 15th, 2007, 06:03 AM
This is a fantastic hack ^_^ Thank you for making it

First page ^_^

Pokefan2008
August 15th, 2007, 06:08 AM
yea shiny gold is back baby

go swampert
August 15th, 2007, 06:10 AM
Thanks For Bringing This Hack Bach, I Love It!

Corona
August 15th, 2007, 06:12 AM
Thanks For Bringing This Hack Bach, I Love It!

It never ended he just closed the thread because the spam and amount of posts and it was slowing him down o.o

LastHand
August 15th, 2007, 06:16 AM
You are doing great at this hack! I cant wait till it is complete and/or next beta!

zak
August 15th, 2007, 06:28 AM
hey zel u probly dont remember me i iant been on in ageeeesssss only reason i come on every now n then is for this hack man its realy awesome , i mean really over the top just da best , i cant w8 til completed version comes out i no its gona take a while but il w8 patiently its gona be so wikid wen it does! gl man !

Har D Har
August 15th, 2007, 06:55 AM
Zel is back, back again, Zel is back, tell a friend. Good to see SG back to it's former glory Zel!

Kid nino
August 15th, 2007, 06:58 AM
SG is back! YEAH! THIS IS AWESOME! I started playing 3 days ago and im stuck on trying to find surf. No im not asking for help im just stating how much I play this game :D

destinedjagold
August 15th, 2007, 07:43 AM
YES! The perfect hack came back from the.., oh ah... never mind!

This hack rulezzzzzz!!!!!!

Can't wait for it's perfect completion!

I'll be supporting this hack from now on... Yeah!

zel 2.0
August 15th, 2007, 08:22 AM
OK, since the thread is just starting I want everyone to have a good look at the First Post, specially the Rules, because they will be important so the thread's cleaner this time.

So, enough with the "welcome back" posts, and let's get back into business.

Well, as I haven't been around PC lately, but still I was doing a few things, I have many news to tell, but I'll be saying them little by little.

I'll start by saying (if you were wandering at youtube you may already know) that I started changing some music (with birthofdna's GSC remixes), so here's the link to the first BGM change I made: link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXZC_HtlThs) Obviously, I've been doing more changes than just that, but better leave that for when you play the next Beta.

The next thing is that I've been playing with palettes and tiles a bit more, and I've improved my general mapping, so here you have a screenshot of how things look now:
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/381/cambiosid4.png
Not that convinced of the grass tile I made...
And, once again, there are more tile changes than just those. But they'll be seen during the next screenshots release.

More surprises will come (if you've taken a look at the first post, you may also notice them, but I'll talk about them soon)

About Status: I'm starting with Celadon, but I'm having a hard time because of the tile changes I did have destroyed a big part of it (if you did the Kanto glitch you know what I'm talking about ;))

Well, SG is back. Don't forget to read H.Sotomura's Before Playing a Hack if you are new to this patching thing (Don't forget to set the Flash 128k option in Options->Emulator->Save Type, BEFORE you load the rom into the emu for the first time, you need to be able to save properly)
Also don't forget that all the links in all your banners are outdated now, so they should be updated (you can manually do this if you change the old value it had for this new one: 100537, but I've also updated the HTML codes in the "Bannerland" section), else everyone will be going to the old thread :P
The banners I uploaded when the thread started were edited so they don't send you to a place called "CAMBIAR", now they send you to this thread, so use them from now

I'll be coming later! Follow the rules, don't spam and... be happy! :D

evilcheese
August 15th, 2007, 08:25 AM
thanks zel it rocks i have been playing all the way!!!!

I love this game it is really great thanks again

Mewtwo42
August 15th, 2007, 08:32 AM
I played this hack, and it was awesomeXD

It seems like that ur never finished, and just keep improving on it.

Random
August 15th, 2007, 08:58 AM
Awesome video Zel, i like the remix, ahhhhh, so nostalgic. :P

BTW hows the sprite coming?

marz
August 15th, 2007, 09:21 AM
Wow, so much earlier than I expected! Through talking to you on MSN, it sounded like you needed a real break, but you came through for everyone yet again. Zel, you're amazing, you know that?

Anyways, huge congratulations on having re-done the entire thread, and by the looks of it, it should keep out at the very least half of those spammers out, but there's always going to be people not having the time to (or so they think) read the first post.

I realized that that banner I posted up in the last thread is actually pretty bad, so I'll probably be working on a better one, because I really want you to replace that one... >_>

Anyways, good luck zel, I'm rooting for you and SG 100%! Although, take your time, because the longer you take, the better it'll be, eh? ;D

[Business talk]

Zel, those new palettes you got in there look stunning. They're not too off with your custom dark-green palette that basically goes through the whole outdoor game. The flowers look nice, and I see you've added in those cool little flower tiles. Are they animated, like FR's flower tile? I mean, do they move back and forth and whatnot.
Another question, have you changed the trees at all? They look different. It may just be my memory of Pokemon Eclipse's DP tileset, the trees were different than yours, but still, I can't help think that you've changed your trees, too. Let me know.

-Sonic~Boom-
August 15th, 2007, 09:22 AM
YES! Pokemon Shiny Gold is finally back! I wish you luck, zel!

Mazumia
August 15th, 2007, 09:43 AM
awsome hack (this is the reason why I joined this forum)

the tiles are awsome, and I can't wait for it to be finished.

nrox653
August 15th, 2007, 09:50 AM
Hmm... So after a month, Shiny Gold's back, eh? :)

BTW, those new tiles you've implemented look great! And I heard the remixed music while browsing on Youtube a few weeks ago, and it sounds pretty good. The only weird thing is that it doesn't quite fit in with the other midis in the 3rd-gen games. Even though it's remixed, they're still the sort of beeps and tones that we had to get used to hearing back in 1st and 2nd gen games... Maybe listen to the music and just entirely make a midi from scratch instead of recording the original tones and edit them a bit?

Went
August 15th, 2007, 10:02 AM
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/381/cambiosid4.png

Well, the tiles. We will discuss them until the end of the times. The two-little-leafs one is very nice. The new flowers (looks like an old fire flower from Mario Bros, lol) well, can do good. But the little three red and white things... I don't really like it :\ And, um, did you change the main grass tile? I see a bit and it looks different...

SSJ4 Furanki
August 15th, 2007, 10:05 AM
@zel: Wow zel the music is great, your really good at Inserting it!

Also good gob with the Revamp of the GSC Grass Tile and the others. :D

@nrox653: Just about every Midi makes beeps and random noises here and there. Trust me I've messed around with music

Kronos1000
August 15th, 2007, 10:06 AM
Great you're back Zel :D

The ending has not been edited at all (and I don't know how much about it can be edited, well, maybe the texts and the graphics), but not the events where Gary comes out of the building and so on...

You can change the sprites that come out of the Indigo Plateau because they are on the map. (So it could be Mary and Oak, or maybe Carlos?) and I have made a list of the Unzl numbers for the ending graphics, just tell me if you want it.

duckdavis
August 15th, 2007, 10:45 AM
YES! Shiny gold is back. I can't wait until beta 5 comes out

StupidKid27
August 15th, 2007, 10:46 AM
Hello there,

Two quick glitches, everything else worked fine for me but for some reason the boat won't go to Kanto the second time. I'm on the boat and the sailor keeps saying they'll make an announcement. I've talked to everyone on the boat I could find and nothing seems to happen. Is there something I'm supposed to trigger? Same with the Celebi event, I go into union cave but nothing happens and Kurt doesn't react to the GS Ball at all.

Great hack so far.

nrox653
August 15th, 2007, 10:50 AM
When is beta 5 aka.the full game. coming out?

Please read the first post, zel has said that countless times.

@Cartman- I think you're missing the point of what I said. I mean it sounds like old 1st/2nd gen music and not like the music in FR/LG Game Freak remixed.

Lady Berlitz
August 15th, 2007, 11:20 AM
The new thread looks great. I hope Shiny Gold becomes a much greater game over the days. Is there any way I can help to make additions? I can do anything, make banners, sprite (anything), script, etc.

jj_olli
August 15th, 2007, 11:40 AM
Zel, these trees, they're AWESOME, and the grass, it looks really grassy. xD. Have fun while hacking ;D!

-Sonic~Boom-
August 15th, 2007, 12:08 PM
How do you make it work im stock can someone explain

Did you look on the first post FAQ? That should be explained there. Also, look at Hiroshi's thread

dipset4ever
August 15th, 2007, 12:08 PM
Can you stop spamming?? Ask someone in a PM Cuboney.

BTW Zel, This has gone a LONG WAY, I remember it was almost a whole year ago that you started this. I doubted that you were going to get far,I said, He will probably stop around Golden Rod or Olivine city but BOY WAS I WRONG! The last Beta I played stopped at Radio Tower after you beat team rocket. The game is amazing Zel. Im saving myself the fun until you complete the whole game.

XxOblivion77
August 15th, 2007, 12:32 PM
Hey Zel, I've been screwing around with beta 4 and went through the game and found a interesting bug (which is actually very benefical)


From Ekcruteak, if you go to Mahogany town first, Amelia will be there and if you talk to her, she'll know who you are and whatever and give you the items.

But, that's not the bug.

She says I got to go, but doesn't go away!

She stays there and you can keep getting as much items as you want.

So anyway, that's what I'm saying and I can't wait for the game to be complete!

This is going to be my shiny gold team when your done with it:

Meganium
Red Gyrados
Ho-oh
Pidgeot
Espeon
Gengar

w00t nice job dude.

Random
August 15th, 2007, 12:36 PM
@Cartman- I think you're missing the point of what I said. I mean it sounds like old 1st/2nd gen music and not like the music in FR/LG Game Freak remixed.

What are you talking about, some parts maybe, put it actually does have some FG/LG sound remixes in it.

yoshikiller995
August 15th, 2007, 12:36 PM
Hello there,

Two quick glitches, everything else worked fine for me but for some reason the boat won't go to Kanto the second time. I'm on the boat and the sailor keeps saying they'll make an announcement. I've talked to everyone on the boat I could find and nothing seems to happen. Is there something I'm supposed to trigger? Same with the Celebi event, I go into union cave but nothing happens and Kurt doesn't react to the GS Ball at all.

Great hack so far.

Well for the boat, you have to go to sleep before the boat gets there.

zel 2.0
August 15th, 2007, 12:46 PM
Awesome video Zel, i like the remix, ahhhhh, so nostalgic. :P

BTW hows the sprite coming?

How's the sprite coming? Well, I recently talked with Marnic, and he's a bit busy. Though he has made a few more pokemon sprites and fixed the new heroes' overworlds. I need to see them yet.

Wow, so much earlier than I expected! Through talking to you on MSN, it sounded like you needed a real break, but you came through for everyone yet again. Zel, you're amazing, you know that?

Anyways, huge congratulations on having re-done the entire thread, and by the looks of it, it should keep out at the very least half of those spammers out, but there's always going to be people not having the time to (or so they think) read the first post.

I realized that that banner I posted up in the last thread is actually pretty bad, so I'll probably be working on a better one, because I really want you to replace that one... >_>

Anyways, good luck zel, I'm rooting for you and SG 100%! Although, take your time, because the longer you take, the better it'll be, eh? ;D

[Business talk]

Zel, those new palettes you got in there look stunning. They're not too off with your custom dark-green palette that basically goes through the whole outdoor game. The flowers look nice, and I see you've added in those cool little flower tiles. Are they animated, like FR's flower tile? I mean, do they move back and forth and whatnot.
Another question, have you changed the trees at all? They look different. It may just be my memory of Pokemon Eclipse's DP tileset, the trees were different than yours, but still, I can't help think that you've changed your trees, too. Let me know.

Well, go ahead and make another Banner if you want, Marz. I just happened to run into yours, and I wanted to add it (after all, the banner will be inside that Spoiler, so I will put a few more)

Those flowers (DP ripped), no, they don't have animation (there are not many tiles with animation, and the flowers that have the animation are still those red ones), I just added them to fill a bit more all the maps.

And, yes, the trees are different. They are still those DP trees, but I have reduced their sizes from every side this time, that's why it may look a little different. And, it's obvious I also changed their palettes (respecting DP's palettes, while respecting my grass palette ended up as a pretty cool combination :))

Hmm... So after a month, Shiny Gold's back, eh? :)

BTW, those new tiles you've implemented look great! And I heard the remixed music while browsing on Youtube a few weeks ago, and it sounds pretty good. The only weird thing is that it doesn't quite fit in with the other midis in the 3rd-gen games. Even though it's remixed, they're still the sort of beeps and tones that we had to get used to hearing back in 1st and 2nd gen games... Maybe listen to the music and just entirely make a midi from scratch instead of recording the original tones and edit them a bit?

Ehhhmm... Well, birthofdna may explain the part of making the midis, I can only say that, once the midi is done, it's all about picking well the instruments and the voicegroups (that's key to avoid those weird sounds that tend to happen when you just pick a voicegroup without taking care of the instruments the midi has - They must match those in the voicegroup), but obviously, if you compare a midi and the rom sound, we have a problem. The same as if you compare the sound Nintendo makes and the one we rom hackers can insert into the game... :P
By the way, I'm an amateur at music insertion, but... I promise there are better sounding tracks than that one ;)

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/381/cambiosid4.png

Well, the tiles. We will discuss them until the end of the times. The two-little-leafs one is very nice. The new flowers (looks like an old fire flower from Mario Bros, lol) well, can do good. But the little three red and white things... I don't really like it :\ And, um, did you change the main grass tile? I see a bit and it looks different...

Probably the grass looks different from the impression of comparing it and the trees together (since they use different palettes)
And the little things? Are just fillers, so it's not like they must be something amazing...

You can change the sprites that come out of the Indigo Plateau because they are on the map. (So it could be Mary and Oak, or maybe Carlos?) and I have made a list of the Unzl numbers for the ending graphics, just tell me if you want it.

I have a few unlz numbers as well. But, since I still don't care about the ending we'll leave that for later.

This game is so awsome. I have it on GBA cartridge. I have one question. I am using a brand new laptop with windows vista. I try to access poketronic and it tells me I need a certain program. I downloaded that program and on vista I cannot find the "Run" option... Can you hep me please?

This doesn't have anything to do with the thread. Sorry.

Hello there,

Two quick glitches, everything else worked fine for me but for some reason the boat won't go to Kanto the second time. I'm on the boat and the sailor keeps saying they'll make an announcement. I've talked to everyone on the boat I could find and nothing seems to happen. Is there something I'm supposed to trigger? Same with the Celebi event, I go into union cave but nothing happens and Kurt doesn't react to the GS Ball at all.

Great hack so far.

Yes, go to sleep, a few people already tested it, and after sleeping you must be able to talk with the sailor and he'll let you through.
Don't forget you need to first go to talk with Elm, then go to Kurt, and as long he's not busy, he'll take the ball.
This reminds me: don't forget I have uploaded dirk's walkthrough in the "Tourist Center" section in my first post. If you have a gameplay question check the walkthrough first.

The new thread looks great. I hope Shiny Gold becomes a much greater game over the days. Is there any way I can help to make additions? I can do anything, make banners, sprite (anything), script, etc.

If you want to make a banner, go ahead, I'll receive more banners. The rest is already covered, but if I need anything, I'll call for help.

That's all, by the time I finish this, there were more posts, but I can only reply to what I quoted. Remember: If I'm replying give me some time till I finish, else I could end up missing your post. Thanks!

thethethethe
August 15th, 2007, 12:53 PM
Let me just say that Shiny Gold was the reason that I got into hacking and PC. But I found a little glitch in the game. If you haven't beaten the Cianwood Gym and come back to the olivine lighthouse and then the gym, Carlos still talks as if you have got the badge the Cianwood Gym.

Midnight Beat
August 15th, 2007, 02:21 PM
Great, Shiny Gold is finally back!!! The new tiles look really good Zel and your new first page should really help to take care of some of the old issues. Anyway I'm glad to see that SG is back and I can't wait to see more of your progress.

ChrisG14
August 15th, 2007, 02:28 PM
Woot, SG is back! New tiles look a little funny, but whatever.

Also, I hope Dirk doesn't mind, but I edited his walkthrough a bit to include some extra locations and other things. I just wanted to help a bit.

Katalyst
August 15th, 2007, 02:41 PM
Yeah, SG is back and cool as ever! Keep it up, Zel!

Barker
August 15th, 2007, 03:02 PM
Awesome, glad to have another thread for this. I'm not too far, only at Goldenrod, but I love it.

On another note.. Zel, I've been working on this (http://www.freewebs.com/shinygoldwalkthrough/index.htm) for a while, I'm not too sure what you'll think about it. If you'd rather me not work on it, because of the secrets it "ruins", I'll abandon it. It only goes up to where I'm at right now (Goldenrod, again), and it's still "Version one", so it's not perfect, but..

*Shrug*

Iceshadow1
August 15th, 2007, 03:18 PM
awesome hack zel i hope this hack goes till the end unlike other hacks im dl righto now

this has inspired me to hack now

Momoko
August 15th, 2007, 03:36 PM
Wow,I'm really glad the thread that made me join this place came back! Good luck with the new thread,Zel and I like the video and palletes!

Namaste
August 15th, 2007, 03:40 PM
This is an amazing hack. Keep this up.

shadoweevee
August 15th, 2007, 04:14 PM
Awesome, glad to have another thread for this. I'm not too far, only at Goldenrod, but I love it.

On another note.. Zel, I've been working on this (http://www.freewebs.com/shinygoldwalkthrough/index.htm) for a while, I'm not too sure what you'll think about it. If you'd rather me not work on it, because of the secrets it "ruins", I'll abandon it. It only goes up to where I'm at right now (Goldenrod, again), and it's still "Version one", so it's not perfect, but..

*Shrug*

That awesome! I like the banner a lot. Can I use it for my sig?

Edit: Zel's got it made this time 2 threads, 3 walkthroughs, and lots of supporting fans.
Edit 2: and lots of mods. :)

Forest Grovyle
August 15th, 2007, 04:20 PM
yoshikiller, your post had nothing to do with the topic, as it wasn't even related to the hack. Always make sure that your posts add to the discussion at hand, otherwise they can be counted as SPAM.

--FG

lucario290
August 15th, 2007, 04:40 PM
Hey I played this for three days and it is awsome, keep up the good work and i can wait till beta 5 comes out!

Dr.Garchomp
August 15th, 2007, 05:58 PM
Yay! Shiny gold's getting progress again! I love this hack even though it still not finished:) Keep up the good work! You're a really good inspiration for me!

Saurav
August 15th, 2007, 06:03 PM
Finally its back......

@ "ChrisG14" that walkthrough might come in handy...

@ "Zel" hope to see or hear more up coming news about SG and goodluck :)

SilentWing
August 15th, 2007, 06:20 PM
I've been working on this (http://www.freewebs.com/shinygoldwalkthrough/index.htm) for a while, I'm not too sure what you'll think about it...it's not perfect, but...

*Shrug*

This. Is. Astounding. You made this guide? It's better than any professional Pokemon guide I've ever even heard of.

Yeah, I suggest you take a look at this one, Zel. It's a colorful, professional, screenshot savvy, full-detail powerhouse. In fact, it just might be too good! :)

Whew.

needhexcodehacs
August 15th, 2007, 06:25 PM
yes shiny gold is back cant w8 for the next beta
hey in the cave wher u put the gs ball dont make the stairs so long

Midnight Beat
August 15th, 2007, 06:30 PM
hey in the cave wher u put the gs ball dont make the stairs so long

Well you are supposed to be coming out from the ocean floor, why would they be short?

Barker
August 15th, 2007, 06:40 PM
I reread the first post again, I like the idea of the Phone booth. It's an awesome way to include some sort of phone feature without the Pokegear available.
That awesome! I like the banner a lot. Can I use it for my sig?
The site banner? Sure, I guess. ;)
This. Is. Astounding. You made this guide? It's better than any professional Pokemon guide I've ever even heard of.

Yeah, I suggest you take a look at this one, Zel. It's a colorful, professional, screenshot savvy, full-detail powerhouse. In fact, it just might be too good! :)

Whew.
Haha, I'm flattered. It does need some work in my opinion though. :)

Comic Tragedy
August 15th, 2007, 06:40 PM
Wow I cant wait to play this when I get back to my own comp.

Ho-oh arabia
August 15th, 2007, 06:56 PM
yay, zel is back! lov ur hack, keep it up. ur one of the ONLY rom hackers to keep up with ur game!kudos!

Erick
August 15th, 2007, 07:19 PM
Yay! This hack is back!
You ever do a great job Zel! Keep on!
I love it!

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Yupi! Este hack está de regreso!
Como siempre, un excelente trabajo de Zel! Síguele así!
Esta bien "chido" el hack ;)

Shiun Enshidia
August 15th, 2007, 07:20 PM
It's good to see that Shiny Gold is back.
I've been looking at the screenshots, nice sprites/tiles, looks a little different to me. I'm not too fond on the D/P Pokecentres though. Or the Markets but hey I like them still.
Hopefully you'll see this through to the end, this is probably the most advanced hack I've seen on Poke Community so keep on going.

Blitzballer
August 15th, 2007, 07:37 PM
Wow, back already? The first time I saw the last thread, it was in the hundreds but now my post is in the top 5! Just wanted to say that I love the pallete change except for the three little flowers (two red and one white?). Another thing I was wondering was if you were going to go back and clean up some of the maps and scripts (i.e. Blackthorn gym, Victory Road, First Steps into Kanto).

Great job and keep it up!

Quilava's Master
August 15th, 2007, 07:42 PM
yAY Zel is back with Shiny Gold its the best hack ive played in ages

Apple Inc.
August 15th, 2007, 07:46 PM
Wow, back already? The first time I saw the last thread, it was in the hundreds but now my post is in the top 5! Just wanted to say that I love the pallete change except for the three little flowers (two red and one white?). Another thing I was wondering was if you were going to go back and clean up some of the maps and scripts (i.e. Blackthorn gym, Victory Road, First Steps into Kanto).

Great job and keep it up!
What's wrong with the gym and victory road, I think he did an excellent job on them.

shadoweevee
August 15th, 2007, 08:03 PM
I reread the first post again, I like the idea of the Phone booth. It's an awesome way to include some sort of phone feature without the Pokegear available.

The site banner? Sure, I guess. ;)

Thanks *goes and puts banner in sig* there now my sig looks better and as an added bonus I included the link to your page!

aaronburnsyou
August 15th, 2007, 08:06 PM
Oh cool, the new thread's up. Now I have a question regarding one I asked months ago.

I recently asked someone who posted on the old thread how they got their Politoed, and they said it was by level up, although you said it evolves by one of the stones, so which is it?

(On a side note, awesome job, I'm loving the game, you pretty much know what else goes in here already)

Blitzballer
August 15th, 2007, 08:28 PM
What's wrong with the gym and victory road, I think he did an excellent job on them.

No, no, no. he did an AMAZING Job!!! I was just wondering about touch-ups, as he gets better at mapping.

zel 2.0
August 15th, 2007, 09:59 PM
Let me just say that Shiny Gold was the reason that I got into hacking and PC. But I found a little glitch in the game. If you haven't beaten the Cianwood Gym and come back to the olivine lighthouse and then the gym, Carlos still talks as if you have got the badge the Cianwood Gym.

Yes, there are many "continuity" errors that I haven't thought of, because I'm used to play the game in a specific way, and I haven't prepared a plan for such situations. So, I don't consider them as glitches (though I should add them in my own list of stuff to fix)

Woot, SG is back! New tiles look a little funny, but whatever.

Also, I hope Dirk doesn't mind, but I edited his walkthrough a bit to include some extra locations and other things. I just wanted to help a bit.




I think you should work together with dirk if that's the case (PM him), then tell me what happened in a PM, and I'll update the walkthrough uploaded in my first post.

Awesome, glad to have another thread for this. I'm not too far, only at Goldenrod, but I love it.

On another note.. Zel, I've been working on this (http://www.freewebs.com/shinygoldwalkthrough/index.htm) for a while, I'm not too sure what you'll think about it. If you'd rather me not work on it, because of the secrets it "ruins", I'll abandon it. It only goes up to where I'm at right now (Goldenrod, again), and it's still "Version one", so it's not perfect, but..

*Shrug*

Yes, I read the walkthrough you did, and I was quite happy to see how you made it ^^ (though that's Noland... not Carlos >.<), I'll also post a link in my Tourist Center to have another, more graphical, option for a walkthrough.

I recently asked someone who posted on the old thread how they got their Politoed, and they said it was by level up, although you said it evolves by one of the stones, so which is it?

Hmmm... With a Sun Stone, most likely... But, at this rate there's people who know this better than me... O.o

No, no, no. he did an AMAZING Job!!! I was just wondering about touch-ups, as he gets better at mapping.

Well, most of my interiors (for caves) will remain as they are, because it's one of the things I'm most proud of. Then, you have the Gym's interiors, where Kike will help me once I start getting busy with my Uni, so there's work on the hack even when I can't be too concentrated on it

I won't be revealing more things all at the same time, besides, I need to implement some of the stuff, and right now I'm more interested on keeping mapping and scripting the story (well, I'm done with Celadon's Outside, now I need to script everything there)

XD003
August 15th, 2007, 10:04 PM
Damn only 2-3 days and already 3 pages... this hack is that good apparently, although i already knew that. I cant wait for the new version, i beat the current version in 1 day <i sleep too much, and play games all day, but not anymore> but this hack was HARD, all those new events and map changes. And, i love the pictures.
by the way, will the next version be the final one or the one AFTER this next one?

SSJ4 Furanki
August 15th, 2007, 10:14 PM
Wow this took about 3 days for me to beat, well it was very enjoyable.

The Aggron at Sea Cave was a cool add-on :D

I can't wait to play the next beta.

Well good luck, zel.

(Wow I think your going all the way and release a full hack.) (Most people give up.)

Went
August 15th, 2007, 11:23 PM
Well, I have been thinking, and I think I found a way to fixthe Cerulean gym problem with the tiles.
The solution is expanding the map and making a second gym, and putting a scripted warp in the entrance. If you haven't meet Misty yet (you have to meet the rocket in the gym first), the script warps you to the first gym, with all the water filled with 4's. And, when you meet Misty, the game sends you to the second gym with the trainers. Obviously, the machine part must be in both.

LiquidR
August 15th, 2007, 11:55 PM
I really enjoyed this hack and I still do ;)

I hope the next Beta will be out soon.

BTW the new music rock's :P

clonex25
August 16th, 2007, 12:16 AM
Nice work on the music, zel. You have two promising composers there. I'm looking forward fro the next release so that I can listen to the G/S music. I also hope that it jives with the Sevii music in the game.

Don't worry. I'll pray that you'll find a way to get that random thingy. Otherwise, special events would be nice, for a change.

Shiraishi
August 16th, 2007, 12:44 AM
There is a nice G/S/C kanto gym leader remix on youtube :x That should work :D

trevor813
August 16th, 2007, 07:06 AM
hahahahah it good have u back zel so take as much time as needed ^_^

martauros
August 16th, 2007, 07:21 AM
Zel I've goy an idea how to get the dogs.
On roue8 there'll be a cave. When u go to the cave, there'll be3 next caves(Thunder path, ember(or flame) path, vapour(or sea) path. In the end of these paths there;ll be dogs!

(thunder-raikou
ember- entei
vapour-suicune)
On thunder path should be Thunderstorm
On ember sandstorm
On vapour a mist( coz rain is in thunderstorm)

zel 2.0
August 16th, 2007, 07:24 AM
by the way, will the next version be the final one or the one AFTER this next one?

No, the plan is: Beta5, up to Fuchsia. Beta6, up to Mt.Silver (thus, the end of the "normal" game) Beta7, all the added extras. Final Release, the free of bugs release. And then, most likely there could be improvment releases, but most likely the Final would be the last.

Well, I have been thinking, and I think I found a way to fixthe Cerulean gym problem with the tiles.
The solution is expanding the map and making a second gym, and putting a scripted warp in the entrance. If you haven't meet Misty yet (you have to meet the rocket in the gym first), the script warps you to the first gym, with all the water filled with 4's. And, when you meet Misty, the game sends you to the second gym with the trainers. Obviously, the machine part must be in both.

Yes, it's kinda as I did with Silph. Yes, that can work (as long as people don't mind the door's warp not opening and the warp working automatically, 'cause that's what would happen)
But, hey! You are getting a scripting mind! XP

Nice work on the music, zel. You have two promising composers there. I'm looking forward fro the next release so that I can listen to the G/S music. I also hope that it jives with the Sevii music in the game.

Don't worry. I'll pray that you'll find a way to get that random thingy. Otherwise, special events would be nice, for a change.

Yes, I need to insert a few more tracks that birthofdna sent me. The Sevii music is GS-remixed music that I may or may not use (maybe I should change everything so it sounds everything in the same style)

martauros: I already have something in mind for the dogs. It's related with the stuff I still don't want to say, so wait till I release that info.

Well, that's all. Good to see everything's calmer now (or perhaps the mods have been working while I was sleeping? :P), anyway, I'll come back later.

BlueSonic
August 16th, 2007, 09:44 AM
Dude, I've said it to myself time and time again, this hack is awesome! I don't know how you can keep hacking this in your spare time.

isaac2112
August 16th, 2007, 10:06 AM
@Zel: I was just thinking about this a while ago, maybe you have already thought of it. But, are you going to throw in an event so that you can trade pokemon with emerald because in fire red, you know, at the sevii islands you have to get the ruby and the saphire to trade with emerald. Maybe this can be in one of those extra events that you were talking about. But I was just reminding you.

Thanks for a great hack! =]

XD003
August 16th, 2007, 10:15 AM
that seems like a good idea... too bad it aint MY hack, but if it was mine, i'd try and do that.

StrickeN
August 16th, 2007, 11:17 AM
Ok well I was introduced to this game with the pirated version i borrowed froma friend. And I did a bit of research and I love this hack. I can't wait till the b5 comes out cuz i got a pr0 team :D beat shiny gold in 3 days :/ so i need something else to do and I wanan catch all 386 pokemon including the "dum dum dum" legendarys. I got a shiny celebi and shiny ho-oh :D after loads of resets. I just wanna catch mewtwo I was kinda angry to find that the entrance to mewtwo had a block >.> and what about the dragons den is that leading to something special to? with the boulder blocking the path, :/ I can't wait to have some more fun on b5 give me a heads up on when you "expect" it to come out cuz I know it ain't out now I just wanna know how soon i can expect something sweet ^_^

Later

-Stricken

Scizor for life!

Gerri Shin
August 16th, 2007, 12:26 PM
first off. I'd like to say, welcome back and awesome job on this hack. I've played through it and its wonderful, (Nintendo ought to hire you). I do have a couple ideas for some of the legendaries, but I won't mention them here(spoiler) . All I can say now is keep on adding whenever you get a chance (I know how uni life can be).

the reason for not listing legendary ideas here:
1: just in case you want to use them they would not be known through out the forum already
If you do want to hear and consider my ideas I'd happily send a PM.

Zowayix
August 16th, 2007, 12:45 PM
hey, didn't zel say in his old thread that he would do something about talking with prof. oak in pallet town and then being able to trade with RSE?

aaronburnsyou
August 16th, 2007, 01:05 PM
Hmmm... With a Sun Stone, most likely... But, at this rate there's people who know this better than me... O.o

Well, I know that won't work, b/c I tried it already, but I'll figure it out, b/c like you said, other people may know this better than you.

Good luck with the 5th Beta Zel.

NidoodiN
August 16th, 2007, 01:20 PM
Some pokemon level issues I found in Shiny Gold X while you were on break:

-When you fight J&J at Silph Co., their arbok is only level 40 while the rest of their pokemon are level 52
-When you fight that Rocket who stole the machine part, his Golbat is only level 30 or something, a bit low compared to the rest of the game

I also noticed that most high level trainers seem to like using Double Team with their pokemon. Is it just a coincidence?

Barker
August 16th, 2007, 01:30 PM
Yes, I read the walkthrough you did, and I was quite happy to see how you made it ^^ (though that's Noland... not Carlos >.<), I'll also post a link in my Tourist Center to have another, more graphical, option for a walkthrough.

Who's Carlos then? Is he a real character from somewhere? Are they supposed to look alike?

And another thing..

In most guides you pick up for Pokemon games, you get these route maps, cave maps, city maps, etc.. Would you be okay with my going though and screencapping a bunch of stuff like that for my guide.. thing?

Lady Berlitz
August 16th, 2007, 01:32 PM
Who's Carlos then? Is he a real character from somewhere? Are they supposed to look alike?

And another thing..

Zel made him up, if you look carefully, Carlos is actually a scratch of Noland, is what I believe.

El Moss
August 16th, 2007, 01:34 PM
Hey zel i want to play the game but i dont want to have to get a new file for the next release 3rd problem is that i dont want to miss any important scripts or really cool changes so how far can i play whilst still eluding the phantom restart (grammatical disaster lol :laugh:)

Awesome, glad to have another thread for this. I'm not too far, only at Goldenrod, but I love it.

On another note.. Zel, I've been working on this for a while, I'm not too sure what you'll think about it. If you'd rather me not work on it, because of the secrets it "ruins", I'll abandon it. It only goes up to where I'm at right now (Goldenrod, again), and it's still "Version one", so it's not perfect, but..

*Shrug*

Awesome guide! but i have to point out that rock is super effective against flying (not that important other than that... awesome guide!

Midnight Beat
August 16th, 2007, 02:44 PM
Zel made him up, if you look carefully, Carlos is actually a scratch of Noland, is what I believe.

Your mostly right his sprite is almost the same as Noland however Carlos himself is accually Zel if I rember right.

Har D Har
August 16th, 2007, 05:59 PM
Yes, Carlos IS Zel's real name.

Oh, that's where he got the name. I always wondered if he was just looking through a name book, or did the JKR thing and looked up Greek and Latin and stuff and gave his name a cool meaning.

XxOblivion77
August 16th, 2007, 09:15 PM
Hey Zel, if there's anything I can do to make the final version come faster, let me know.

I unfortunately have no hacking abilities and don't have the time to learn.

Oh yeah, one very important request:

MAKE A FLY SPOT FOR BLACKTHORN CITY

Well good luck on the hack and try and get a map so we can use Fly better.

zel 2.0
August 16th, 2007, 09:22 PM
hey, didn't zel say in his old thread that he would do something about talking with prof. oak in pallet town and then being able to trade with RSE?

Correct. That idea is still on. So, once in Pallet you'll be able to trade to RSE (remember the idea wasn't to trade, that's why so later in the game)

Well, I know that won't work, b/c I tried it already, but I'll figure it out, b/c like you said, other people may know this better than you.

Good luck with the 5th Beta Zel.

Well, if it wasn't a Sun Stone, it may have been a Water Stone... I know it was a Stone 'cause I have a Slowking in my party ^.^

Some pokemon level issues I found in Shiny Gold X while you were on break:

-When you fight J&J at Silph Co., their arbok is only level 40 while the rest of their pokemon are level 52
-When you fight that Rocket who stole the machine part, his Golbat is only level 30 or something, a bit low compared to the rest of the game

I also noticed that most high level trainers seem to like using Double Team with their pokemon. Is it just a coincidence?

The levels issues, well, yes, they are problems. Though it really doesn't matter because with each release I need to edit all the trainers once again.

And Double Team is a common defensive strategy for most trainers... Mainly to annoy... :P

In most guides you pick up for Pokemon games, you get these route maps, cave maps, city maps, etc.. Would you be okay with my going though and screencapping a bunch of stuff like that for my guide.. thing?

Well, as you wish... But, try not to spoil the fun with showing the maps, or at least put the maps as an option.

Hey zel i want to play the game but i dont want to have to get a new file for the next release 3rd problem is that i dont want to miss any important scripts or really cool changes so how far can i play whilst still eluding the phantom restart (grammatical disaster lol :laugh:)

The thing is that I think I'll have to repoint most maps for the next release, meaning anywhere could not be safe (and as I always say... playing an older Beta save will lead to problems, the only safe bet is to start the game from the beginning)

Anyway, now every release takes more time than before, so most likely, it'll be funnier to start the game from the beginning, but that's just my opinion...

ps: what's the beta's lenghth

I wanna suppose in gameplay length... That depends on how fast you are... I cannot say how much time I have in my current game 'cause I need to be checking stuff a lot of time.

If it was how far the game goes, well, read the first post.

Now I need to finish the important maps of Celadon: Dept.Store, Game Corner and Gym... sigh...

Momoko
August 16th, 2007, 09:37 PM
Thx for the....update?...? Good luck on Celadon City =P. I also have another question why didn't you reply to my message yet? sorry if im annoying you =O

StupidKid27
August 16th, 2007, 09:46 PM
Hello there,

Two quick glitches, everything else worked fine for me but for some reason the boat won't go to Kanto the second time. I'm on the boat and the sailor keeps saying they'll make an announcement. I've talked to everyone on the boat I could find and nothing seems to happen. Is there something I'm supposed to trigger? Same with the Celebi event, I go into union cave but nothing happens and Kurt doesn't react to the GS Ball at all.

Great hack so far.

I tried both of your solutions for both problems and neither of them worked. It might just be a fluke in my rom or something but the problem is still there.

SSJ4 Furanki
August 16th, 2007, 10:30 PM
Well, zel can't wait to see the next update. :D

(I'm putting Shiny Gold and my Hack on to my Flash Card)

a2h
August 17th, 2007, 03:15 AM
This is an awesome hack.

The only problem is that due to the mix of K/J/H PKMN all together, I managed to fill 5/6 slots in the route between the first-second cities!

Hoenn PKMN is probably OK, but Kanto PKMN? Why not just go to Kanto and get them? I met a Pidgey...

Amazing how much work you put into something free (albiet a patch of a commercial game)

EDIT: Just remembered - D/P Pokemon centres, marts and gyms? Where'd that idea come from? O_o

martauros
August 17th, 2007, 03:31 AM
The only problem is that due to the mix of K/J/H PKMN all together, I managed to fill 5/6 slots in the route between the first-second cities!

Hoenn PKMN is probably OK, but Kanto PKMN? Why not just go to Kanto and get them? I met a Pidgey...

Well, when i was playing orginal gold, I had 5/6 pokemon too( Sentret, pidgey, spearow, hoothoot, totodil) and kanto pkmn were in gold!Zel add only hoenn.

a2h
August 17th, 2007, 03:40 AM
Ahh OK, my memory must have gone slightly haywire...

I'm only 13!

Well I haven't played Crystal in a long time so...

Yeah, I take that back.

But Hoenn... wait a moment, my box was being used before I reached the city with the first gym...

As everybody knows... FR/LG don't have Hoenn PKMN in the wild... but then again, Zel is not Nintendo is he xD

OMNIPOTENT
August 17th, 2007, 05:55 AM
some bugs, hope it helps:

-the town map... whew, look 4 yourself! XD
-at the beginning, when (dun remember who) says take this phone, it gives u the vs seeker. dunno if u already know, and if it's ok 4 u :P i know u'r trying put in the pokegear functions.
-the script that take the spearow with the mail north of goldenrod and says go to route 31 don't work, or, better, can't find anyone that want a spearow ^^ my fault?
-i downloaded the last version: in the burnt tower there's still the smashing rock. in the "old bugs" you said u removed it. what's the truth? :P
-ehr, i met the kurt's evil clone XD
*can't post url to other sites i haven't 15 posts -_-'*
www . zshare . net/image/31818270ced35d/
give him the white apricorn after the slowpoke well, then i came back after HM01 to obtain the charcoal. in this time, i found this. the busy kurtz says go away, the free one if u have apricorns bring them to me, so the ball wasn't ready yet. to you
-dunno how to evolve onix to steelix EEEEEK! (don't care, don't need an answer ^^)
-route 39 (moo-moo farm) can't use the bycicle. just add to the bugged place, i know u already notice this kind of bug.
-maybe u should limit someway the exploration in the cave on route 31, i reached the blackbelt the first time and pokemons at that point are usually lv.10-15 (nosepass lv20). do what u want, if u want to punish the non-flash-yet guys... ^^
-pika pika-pi? YES/NO XD carino!
-can't remember anything else, hope being useful ^^

compliments for ur hack, zel. i named my rival zel in your honor :D so now i fight both CARLOS and ZEL ^^

Gerri Shin
August 17th, 2007, 06:04 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but will the Viridian City trainer House be back. Obviously it won't have the luxury of taking the trainer's party from mystery gift, but will it hold a few really good trainers that you can battle over and over? (Cal should make an appearance in there if there is a trainer house. He's the one with the Meganium, Typhlosion, and Feraligatr)
Also, if I remember correctly, in the Celedon Dept. Store you weren't allowed to buy stones, will this change?
Will the Rocket underground hideout under the game corner still be in there?
Will there be a radio tower in lavender or will it still be a memorial tower?.
what will the new building in vermilion be?
anyway if you get a chance and would like to address these questions feel free, if you would rather let us all figure it out in the next beta (released whenever you decide) thats fine too.

dirk123
August 17th, 2007, 06:15 AM
some bugs, hope it helps:

-the town map... whew, look 4 yourself! XD
-at the beginning, when (dun remember who) says take this phone, it gives u the vs seeker. dunno if u already know, and if it's ok 4 u :P i know u'r trying put in the pokegear functions.
-the script that take the spearow with the mail north of goldenrod and says go to route 31 don't work, or, better, can't find anyone that want a spearow ^^ my fault?
-i downloaded the last version: in the burnt tower there's still the smashing rock. in the "old bugs" you said u removed it. what's the truth? :P
-ehr, i met the kurt's evil clone XD
*can't post url to other sites i haven't 15 posts -_-'*
www . zshare . net/image/31818270ced35d/
give him the white apricorn after the slowpoke well, then i came back after HM01 to obtain the charcoal. in this time, i found this. the busy kurtz says go away, the free one if u have apricorns bring them to me, so the ball wasn't ready yet. to you
-dunno how to evolve onix to steelix EEEEEK! (don't care, don't need an answer ^^)
-route 39 (moo-moo farm) can't use the bycicle. just add to the bugged place, i know u already notice this kind of bug.
-maybe u should limit someway the exploration in the cave on route 31, i reached the blackbelt the first time and pokemons at that point are usually lv.10-15 (nosepass lv20). do what u want, if u want to punish the non-flash-yet guys... ^^
-pika pika-pi? YES/NO XD carino!
-can't remember anything else, hope being useful ^^

compliments for ur hack, zel. i named my rival zel in your honor :D so now i fight both CARLOS and ZEL ^^

Old News (look at old topic)

@girafarig: The Lavender Radio Tower will still be there

shadoweevee
August 17th, 2007, 06:23 AM
Well, zel can't wait to see the next update. :D

(I'm putting Shiny Gold and my Hack on to my Flash Card)

I'm doing the same thing with my psp!

some bugs, hope it helps:

-the town map... whew, look 4 yourself! XD
-at the beginning, when (dun remember who) says take this phone, it gives u the vs seeker. dunno if u already know, and if it's ok 4 u :P i know u'r trying put in the pokegear functions.
-the script that take the spearow with the mail north of goldenrod and says go to route 31 don't work, or, better, can't find anyone that want a spearow ^^ my fault?
-i downloaded the last version: in the burnt tower there's still the smashing rock. in the "old bugs" you said u removed it. what's the truth? :P
-ehr, i met the kurt's evil clone XD
*can't post url to other sites i haven't 15 posts -_-'*
www . zshare . net/image/31818270ced35d/
give him the white apricorn after the slowpoke well, then i came back after HM01 to obtain the charcoal. in this time, i found this. the busy kurtz says go away, the free one if u have apricorns bring them to me, so the ball wasn't ready yet. to you
-dunno how to evolve onix to steelix EEEEEK! (don't care, don't need an answer ^^)
-route 39 (moo-moo farm) can't use the bycicle. just add to the bugged place, i know u already notice this kind of bug.
-maybe u should limit someway the exploration in the cave on route 31, i reached the blackbelt the first time and pokemons at that point are usually lv.10-15 (nosepass lv20). do what u want, if u want to punish the non-flash-yet guys... ^^
-pika pika-pi? YES/NO XD carino!
-can't remember anything else, hope being useful ^^

compliments for ur hack, zel. i named my rival zel in your honor :D so now i fight both CARLOS and ZEL ^^

Most of these are glitches we already know about I think some are new
1. Already known
2. Not a glitch, as of now there is no way to make the phone an item.
3. look at the guy by the berry tree
4. Glitch but I think you just patched your rom wrong (But I may be wrong too)
5. Already known
6. Already known
7 ehr >.>
8. Thats not a glitch
Yay so just read the fist page and you will find all the glitches posted so far.

Edit: Beaten again! Can you believe that?!

destinedjagold
August 17th, 2007, 06:30 AM
Hey zel.., just a question about Shiny Gold...

Are you gonna include the Sevii Islands and Whirl Islands in the game..?

Eheheh... =3

dirk123
August 17th, 2007, 06:49 AM
Hey zel.., just a question about Shiny Gold...

Are you gonna include the Sevii Islands and Whirl Islands in the game..?

Eheheh... =3

Sevii Islands = no, because Johto uses the Sevii Islands space
Whirl Islands = Yes, because they were in the original gold (which is where Lugia is located)

driger369
August 17th, 2007, 09:08 AM
I know that there's a tool to put maps in games and places to fly to and one of the hacks around here has the johto map so mabee you could look into that when you release the next beta. Just a suggestion, keep up the fantastic work!

kyogre1940
August 17th, 2007, 09:21 AM
I have 2 questions. First, there appears to be a glitch in the Dragon's Den. After I get the Dragon Fang, I talk to Claire and it freezes up! Why?! I got the new beta, not cheating, everything! My 2nd question is, why aren't you using my music? :( I'll send you a couple more, but for the most part...

dirk123
August 17th, 2007, 09:36 AM
I have 2 questions. First, there appears to be a glitch in the Dragon's Den. After I get the Dragon Fang, I talk to Claire and it freezes up! Why?! I got the new beta, not cheating, everything! My 2nd question is, why aren't you using my music? :( I'll send you a couple more, but for the most part...

Remember, the latest beta was created 2-3 months ago.
Zel said that he would input the songs in Beta 5 and further.

evilcheese
August 17th, 2007, 09:40 AM
wow Zel just have to say its getting better and better

this almost looks like it was made from nintendo

hope you reach your goal!!!

KyGon
August 17th, 2007, 03:30 PM
cool this is an awesome hack, just one question how do i download it?

go to the first page,click on the version of the hack you want(top is easy bottom is hard),Then a window will pop up,click save.

HaXored-X
August 17th, 2007, 03:42 PM
this really is an awesome hack. The best ive ever played in fact!

shadoweevee
August 17th, 2007, 04:04 PM
go to the first page,click on the version of the hack you want(top is easy bottom is hard),Then a window will pop up,click save.

If you are going to say that you know he is going to ask the question "how do I play it?" so refer him here (http://www.pkmncommunity.com/showthread.php?t=73966) to answer all his big Q's

Pokefan2008
August 17th, 2007, 04:46 PM
wow zel shiny gold is the bomb everybody loves so many posts this hack is the best!

PokeFanatic12698
August 17th, 2007, 04:47 PM
cant wait til its finished.hmm i wonder if someone might make a hack just as good as zel's.

Barker
August 17th, 2007, 05:17 PM
Well, as you wish... But, try not to spoil the fun with showing the maps, or at least put the maps as an option.

Yeah, that was one of the things I had already planned out. Probably have a link to them with Spoilers on it or something, at least for the Routes and Caves.

And Noland..

RiderLeangle
August 17th, 2007, 05:26 PM
Great Work, I've played since I found the last topic link, Very good, Although the problem is trying to Fly because its the Sevii Islands map wise. Good job anyways. (And I hope you don't mind that I didn't have any Water Pokemon to learn surf at the time that I opened a FireRed Rom that has gameshark codes in it then open ShinyGold to get the medicine).
And I see with the Slowpoke Tail thing you added the text "(Poor Thing)" which I don't remember from Silver (Never got Gold).

cal.kriptic
August 17th, 2007, 05:32 PM
Love the game its a real inspiration, hope you keep up the amazing work and complete it! xD

zel 2.0
August 17th, 2007, 10:20 PM
EDIT: Just remembered - D/P Pokemon centres, marts and gyms? Where'd that idea come from? O_o

It comes from the idea that I want SG to be a mix of generations, that's why there are GBC, GBA and DS graphics.

-i downloaded the last version: in the burnt tower there's still the smashing rock. in the "old bugs" you said u removed it. what's the truth? :P
-ehr, i met the kurt's evil clone XD
*can't post url to other sites i haven't 15 posts -_-'*
www . zshare . net/image/31818270ced35d/
give him the white apricorn after the slowpoke well, then i came back after HM01 to obtain the charcoal. in this time, i found this. the busy kurtz says go away, the free one if u have apricorns bring them to me, so the ball wasn't ready yet. to you

I'm not that sure if you have the newest version because of the rock, it must not be there, on either version (normal or X), if I took it out of the list is because I removed it.
And about Kurt, I'll follow your steps to see what I get once I get some time (I bet it won't happen to me XD)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but will the Viridian City trainer House be back. Obviously it won't have the luxury of taking the trainer's party from mystery gift, but will it hold a few really good trainers that you can battle over and over? (Cal should make an appearance in there if there is a trainer house. He's the one with the Meganium, Typhlosion, and Feraligatr)
Also, if I remember correctly, in the Celedon Dept. Store you weren't allowed to buy stones, will this change?
Will the Rocket underground hideout under the game corner still be in there?
Will there be a radio tower in lavender or will it still be a memorial tower?.
what will the new building in vermilion be?
anyway if you get a chance and would like to address these questions feel free, if you would rather let us all figure it out in the next beta (released whenever you decide) thats fine too.

The Trainer House will contain our good friend CAL (because that's what I'm gonna get when I get to Viridian, so I'll stick to what I get)
Yes, you will not be able to get Stones till much later in the game.
To Jess and Jamie's surprise, the Hideout is not there anymore... (just like in the original, after all)
The new building will be decided later...

I have 2 questions. First, there appears to be a glitch in the Dragon's Den. After I get the Dragon Fang, I talk to Claire and it freezes up! Why?! I got the new beta, not cheating, everything! My 2nd question is, why aren't you using my music? :( I'll send you a couple more, but for the most part...

You are not supposed to talk to her. You are supposed to step in a tile that makes her dissappear from the Den, so you will not see her till you take the item (the Dragon Fang) on the floor. Once you get the item, she will appear, give you the Badge and then disappear again.

If something didn't work like I mentioned, tell me exactly what went wrong, as it could help me to spot a leak in the script (or it could mean: either a flag problem, or a rom problem, though improbable)

cant wait til its finished.hmm i wonder if someone might make a hack just as good as zel's.

Yeah, the good thing is that the hackers are really giving a good effort to improve their games (I'd be happy if SG contributed to improving the overall level of hacks :D) And, I saw a lot of cool stuff thought in many hacks. They have the advantage of being more original than me, 'cause I must stick to a set story...

And I see with the Slowpoke Tail thing you added the text "(Poor Thing)" which I don't remember from Silver (Never got Gold).

Yeah, the original Gold's item's descriptions are quite short, so I usually add some stuff (most of the time is funny stuff ^^), to fit a few more words there.

Anyways Zel did u create the Overworlds and the sprite when your choosing the Hero or Heroine for Gold and the final evolution of the starter revamps? Because I swear I've seen the same sprites in a website,if you want,I can PM you the link to the spritework.

Yes, I think I know what you are refering about. Yes, it's because the author (Marnic) posted his work there. I really didn't know of his existance till he decided to PM me his work :)
And now he's colaborating with new sprites.

That's all I have (cause I said to avoid the pirate stuff, just say NO to them, as always ;)), and also stop the "playing the game on flashcards and that kind of stuff" at least for a while, to avoid getting offtopic, thanks.

Onto the game, if you checked the First Post, I have updated the Progress Section, as I have finally stepped out of Celadon. Now I'm heading to Cycling Road, and mainly I'm heading to a lot of Routes, so it'll all be just fixing a bit the maps and editing A LOT of battles, but it'll not be hard work, so I expect to make them fast, and in the end, reaching Fuchsia by Monday (Thursday Uni starts again, but since it won't be that hard at the beginning I'll keep the rythm for a while)

...Sigh... I'm breathless (huh? I thought I was writing? O.o), well, see ya later!

Momoko
August 17th, 2007, 10:31 PM
Okay,two questions about Shiny Gold.

No 1: What is the Viridian trainer club,or whatever Zel was talking about earlier in one of his posts,and Cal is a member of it??? Can somebody please explain.

No 2: Who is this Ashly sprite people are talking about?

PS: If some of this has to do with Beta4,I haven't finished it yet (it took a long time to get roms working on Windows Vista O.o)

Shiun Enshidia
August 18th, 2007, 12:41 AM
It comes from the idea that I want SG to be a mix of generations, that's why there are GBC, GBA and DS graphics.


Ah I see how that works. That answers my comment. I don't find the Pokemarts as eye pleasing though.

This really inspires me to make my hack. Of course when one cannot find resources *COUGHCOUGHHINTHINTromCOUGHCOUGHWHEEZE* one usually gives up trying. Ah well, still I pen down my maps on pen and paper. Maybe someone will make them come to light.

Anyways, are you going to make anything after Mt. Silver? Or are you going to make that bit 100% like Gold?

Youji
August 18th, 2007, 01:39 AM
Sorry for the late replay zel but welcome back. And you know that I highly love your hack. But I can't play it at the moment. I don't have any ROM... But I play it asap when I have my FR-ROM. Keep on.

UnitRico
August 18th, 2007, 01:56 AM
Well zel, I didn't post on the last topic of ShinyGold, but the game still is great. I only have one question, if the beta5 comes out, is it possible to patch it over the beta4 ROM without losing my current game?

~Cya, UnitRico

♠εx
August 18th, 2007, 02:58 AM
I have a two questions.

1. Will mewtwo be added into the game after you collect all badges.
2. Will you add any extra maps if you have some leftovers? :P

The palettes and trees match, I like all the maps and how you edited them :P. There were only a few glitches when I was playing the game, one was that after I beat team rocket at the slowpoke well I couldn't go to Kurt at all. When I went out of the house and back in the game screen turned black and froze. Dunno if this has happened before.

Anyway, nice job :P.

Gerri Shin
August 18th, 2007, 04:34 AM
Okay,two questions about Shiny Gold.

No 1: What is the Viridian trainer club,or whatever Zel was talking about earlier in one of his posts,and Cal is a member of it??? Can somebody please explain.

No 2: Who is this Ashly sprite people are talking about?

PS: If some of this has to do with Beta4,I haven't finished it yet (it took a long time to get roms working on Windows Vista O.o)

Ok just to help you out. The trainer house was an installation in Viridian City where, in the gbc series, it would allow you to battle in the basement, the default trainer in the basement was Cal. However, if you happened to use the mystery gift function with one of your friends, the game records your friends Pokemon and then your friend replaces Cal. since mystery gift doesn't work like that any more, I think that a proper way to rebuild it ould be to have about 4 or 5 trainers that you could battle more than once.
As for the Ashley character, she is a new character that Zel put in. She is the Cianwood gym leader Chuck's Niece. she appears now and then after you defeat her in front of her uncle's gym.
I believe that the Asley character is the only thing in this post that has to do with B4 since you cannot access viridian in B4.
Hope this helps

ChrisG14
August 18th, 2007, 05:12 AM
Well, I PMed dirk, and he said that you can go ahead and update the walkthrough. We'll keep trying to make it better though.

birthofdna
August 18th, 2007, 05:40 AM
Ok just to help you out. The trainer house was an installation in Viridian City where, in the gbc series, it would allow you to battle in the basement, the default trainer in the basement was Cal. However, if you happened to use the mystery gift function with one of your friends, the game records your friends Pokemon and then your friend replaces Cal. since mystery gift doesn't work like that any more, I think that a proper way to rebuild it ould be to have about 4 or 5 trainers that you could battle more than once.
As for the Ashley character, she is a new character that Zel put in. She is the Cianwood gym leader Chuck's Niece. she appears now and then after you defeat her in front of her uncle's gym.
I believe that the Asley character is the only thing in this post that has to do with B4 since you cannot access viridian in B4.
Hope this helps
Actually, Chuck's niece's name is Amelia. "Ashley" is actually Ashlee, the Pokemon Thief who steals a] your Badges and b] Silph's Prototype at certain points in the game.

shadoweevee
August 18th, 2007, 07:17 AM
I think not. But you should patch it into a clean FR Rom again, because if you don't, it may cause bugs.

If you mean to countune you game, Yes, but instead patch over the same rom just get a new rom and rename your sav file to the same name as the rom

I have a two questions.

1. Will mewtwo be added into the game after you collect all badges.
2. Will you add any extra maps if you have some leftovers? :P

The palettes and trees match, I like all the maps and how you edited them :P. There were only a few glitches when I was playing the game, one was that after I beat team rocket at the slowpoke well I couldn't go to Kurt at all. When I went out of the house and back in the game screen turned black and froze. Dunno if this has happened before.

Anyway, nice job :P.

1. Yes
2. ask Zel, not my call

Apple Inc.
August 18th, 2007, 07:36 AM
Something I noticed while playing was that if you get the coin case and hit the slots right away, You already have 28 coins. I don't recall if that was in the original or not but please look into it.

dirk123
August 18th, 2007, 08:41 AM
Ok just to help you out. The trainer house was an installation in Viridian City where, in the gbc series, it would allow you to battle in the basement, the default trainer in the basement was Cal. However, if you happened to use the mystery gift function with one of your friends, the game records your friends Pokemon and then your friend replaces Cal. since mystery gift doesn't work like that any more, I think that a proper way to rebuild it ould be to have about 4 or 5 trainers that you could battle more than once.
As for the Ashley character, she is a new character that Zel put in. She is the Cianwood gym leader Chuck's Niece. she appears now and then after you defeat her in front of her uncle's gym.
I believe that the Asley character is the only thing in this post that has to do with B4 since you cannot access viridian in B4.
Hope this helps

You are mixing characters up.

Ashlee is a girl(thief) trainer and rival who has an evil pikachu :P

EarthsVisitor
August 18th, 2007, 08:53 AM
Zel,
You're doing a great job with your hack.
You truly are a great inspiration to many of the begginer hackers.
I think at least 1/3 of all Hackers, always say to me, "Yeah, I started hacking after I played Shiny Gold."

Keep up the great work.
I personally, HAVE NOT, played your hack yet.
But that's because I'm waiting until it's finished, and I'm SURE I'll love it.
:)

-EarthsVisitor

OMNIPOTENT
August 18th, 2007, 10:08 AM
zel a thing 4 the spearow script, i already tried talking with the guy next to the berry tree (the tired one) and nothing... i tried again now and nothing again... rom problem?

and some problem entering mahogany town from route 42, the old man appears from nothing, dunno if it's normal.

shadoweevee
August 18th, 2007, 10:40 AM
zel a thing 4 the spearow script, i already tried talking with the guy next to the berry tree (the tired one) and nothing... i tried again now and nothing again... rom problem?

and some problem entering mahogany town from route 42, the old man appears from nothing, dunno if it's normal.

That's happened to me before the Old man isn't there then I take a step and BAM he appears out of nowhere. It's pretty mind-boggling.

yoshikiller995
August 18th, 2007, 11:41 AM
zel a thing 4 the spearow script, i already tried talking with the guy next to the berry tree (the tired one) and nothing... i tried again now and nothing again... rom problem?

and some problem entering mahogany town from route 42, the old man appears from nothing, dunno if it's normal.

You must take th mail off of the spearow, then it should work, I had the same problem.

Went
August 18th, 2007, 12:06 PM
Please, people, read the first post before posting, I have counted 8 questions in the two last pages whose answer is there.

I have been checking the bug list and I have found two things:
1- Ihe Slowpoke girl in Cerulean is fake, I only found her using the WTW code.
2- Truly there is a level in Mt. Mortar without water/fishing pokes (= missingno): map 2.49 (it also has two weird tiles).

Andymac50
August 18th, 2007, 12:48 PM
Hello, My first post On Pokecomminity, i recently found out about this and have been playing it for about 2 days its a really good hack :D but i noticed the "home made" battle sprites could use some work and i was wondering if you are willing to accept Re-vamps of the Originals, i have experiance in Pokemon Games Spriting in the Overworld sprites area and Re-vamps on a Game called Pokemon Online (quite a big project) if you need help in Re-vamps, i am willing to help

OMNIPOTENT
August 18th, 2007, 01:59 PM
You must take th mail off of the spearow, then it should work, I had the same problem.

yeah, that's true. i did it and it works now. thx guy, and 4 zel, keep note ^^

btw, i don't care too much 4 the town map, but the fact that it's linked to the fly map is a real problem. it's something improvable?

Supreme Dirt
August 18th, 2007, 03:02 PM
Awesome. Can't wait till Beta 5.

zel 2.0
August 18th, 2007, 03:30 PM
Probably I'll be skipping one or two posts, so sorry if I did that (unintentionally). Basically, I'd say to hold on for offering help. I have already a spriter, so I don't have problems in that area (althoug if you want to show me your work, just PM it to me) And, absolutely NO scripting help. That's the thing I most enjoy doing myself of the hack, so I want it all for me ;)

Gosh... 16 PMs... Guess I'll read them tonight... :knockedou

Anyways, are you going to make anything after Mt. Silver? Or are you going to make that bit 100% like Gold?

Yes, there are a few extra areas planned after Mt.Silver, 'cause the game is pretty boring if it just ends there (besides, after Mt.Silver the rest of the legendary events will become available... Gotta catch'em all... :D)

Well zel, I didn't post on the last topic of ShinyGold, but the game still is great. I only have one question, if the beta5 comes out, is it possible to patch it over the beta4 ROM without losing my current game?

~Cya, UnitRico

My reply on the FAQs

I have a two questions.

1. Will mewtwo be added into the game after you collect all badges.
2. Will you add any extra maps if you have some leftovers? :P

You probably had a patching/rom problem with Kurt's event.
1. Yes, but in reality, the event (that rock that blocks your way to the Mistery Ruins) will disappear as soon as you reach Pallet... meaning... Beta6...

That helped, even if I'm not Rei.
I can't be believe you remembered Cal!
A question from me, how far will B5 go?

I wrote it in the Progress Report Section, check it out!

Well, I PMed dirk, and he said that you can go ahead and update the walkthrough. We'll keep trying to make it better though.

OK, then. I hope you two can work on it together then (PM me when you have changes)
I'll upload it on my first post later.

can someone tell me where to find a bagon in it also a swablu.

Nowhere yet, but if you need a spoiler...
It will be a prize at Celadon's Game Corner, for 8888 Coins...

I'm scripting all the routes at once (Routes 16,17,18), to kill three birds in one shot! :) (there are no extra events there, so that makes everything easier)

[EDIT]: Merging... Now I have finished the scipting of all those routes! ^^

Momoko
August 18th, 2007, 08:17 PM
But....Mount Moon is the place you go through to get to Cerulean,is it not? I'm confused...He's working on fuschia...when hes not even done Mount Moon????

zel 2.0
August 18th, 2007, 08:56 PM
Just to straigthen things out for JoyRide, garfieldlover94 and rei173. Read the first Post! You can find where the next Beta will end by reading the Progress Report, and you can guess how close the next release is just by reading that section... I'll do it for you...

Fuchsia City (First Goal, screenshots season starts, Beta ends here)

The Mt.Moon thing only means that the Beta (that ends at Fuchsia) will be posted as soon as I reach Mt.Moon. It is only something to "give you an aproximation to a release date"

Please, if each of you can delete your respective posts I'd appreciate it. And look for the First Post in the future. Thanks! ^^

[EDIT]: If those three posts are deleted this post would look as a double post in my part. I'd also ask to merge it with my previous post, thanks.

a2h
August 19th, 2007, 12:57 AM
It may seem weird but I'm a bit confused about the progress report.

What does -
strikeout
bold
normal

Mean?

BlueSonic
August 19th, 2007, 02:53 AM
Zel, will you be adding in any other areas to the hack?

destinedjagold
August 19th, 2007, 03:09 AM
Zel, will you be adding in any other areas to the hack?

I don't think zel will add new areas.., since he's just remaking a G/S/C game, but added a little twist and flavor to make the remake/hack more challenging, good, uh.., and lot's of good stuff...


=3

dirk123
August 19th, 2007, 03:18 AM
I don't think zel will add new areas.., since he's just remaking a G/S/C game, but added a little twist and flavor to make the remake/hack more challenging, good, uh.., and lot's of good stuff...


=3

The extra area's that we know of are a cave in the Dragon's Den and Mewtwo's Cave,
Zel is planning more events after beating Red to make the game longer, so maybe there will be more extra area's.

OMNIPOTENT
August 19th, 2007, 07:11 AM
It may seem weird but I'm a bit confused about the progress report.

What does -
strikeout
bold
normal

Mean?

strikeout -> already done
bold -> current working
normal -> next working

about the kurtz twins glitch, it's gettin' worse. now i was in the victory road, i go back out and went to violet city, the union cave, lapras, slowpoke well, scientist, then kurtz. (just to let u know my process, dunno if it's truly relevant)
i go in with my lone blue apricorn. see around, no kurtz's brother in the house. talk to kurtz, give him the apricorn. take a step right! kurt'z brother has come from under the table and is working!
maybe the bug is always there (not only for me) but you all haven't noticed it cause u need to go one step right to see kurtz's working place? check.

then i've 3 place with tiles problem: 2 solid block that shouldn't be solid (they'r grass and empty space) one in the route north of the first route (coming from the dragon city, in the two camping guys little square, under the headbutt tree), one in the route to victory road (in the big grass area around the weekly family house, in the up-left corner, the two grass tiles partially covered by the tree); and some reflecting rocks tiles in mt mortar (they are rock but there's the water-like reflex). tell me if u need screenshots.

just a thing: the victory road. that's AWESOME. i think i'm gonna cry when i'll finally reach the exit. nice job guy. ;)

EDIT: a thing for the shiny script. if it can help, if u use continue (i didn't, using the emulator's istant saving) it's shot off. if you can't set the flag when losing against the gyarados, maybe some kind of save-and-restart like the E4's one?

P.s. i didn't cry :D but now i'v rescued the girl on s.s.aqua... and i'm gonna cry again XD u'r a f***in genius zel ^^

EDIT2: only for zel (may spoil :P) In sea cavern, the last warp before entering the "building" where u meet rockets, the cave-doors warp u simply passing in front of them, not entering
and (i haven't read this in the other bugs) a lot of warps in caverns and likely (special warps and stairs) don't stop you so u'r warped while still walking (just an oddity)

EDIT3: it's normal all those bugged tiles right of the snorlax in the beta? O_O

john55
August 19th, 2007, 09:09 AM
I have a qustion by any chance will you change the pokemart music to R/S/E song or possibly the D/P version of it, becuase if I remember correctly the stores actually had the towns song(the town you happen to be in)in the original game. Becuase so far like firered youve been using the pokecenter song. Just wondering.

Scytheteen
August 19th, 2007, 09:43 AM
hey zel, i have shiny gold for gameboy advance (don't ask how) and it won't save, and the map is all messed up.

Gerri Shin
August 19th, 2007, 09:44 AM
Hey, Zel, I was just wondering are you going to make Mt. Moon all one level like in gold or will you keep all three levels and use the lower ones for an event or make one of them into that summit mart thing?

Adammac
August 19th, 2007, 09:47 AM
Hey, what about Mew and Jirachi?

Ho-oh arabia
August 19th, 2007, 10:09 AM
sorry if this has been already answered but, is shiny gold's maps gonna look like johto or still be based off the sevii islands?and is pokegear gonna be used too?

zel 2.0
August 19th, 2007, 10:10 AM
strikeout -> already done
bold -> current working
normal -> next working

about the kurtz twins glitch, it's gettin' worse. now i was in the victory road, i go back out and went to violet city, the union cave, lapras, slowpoke well, scientist, then kurtz. (just to let u know my process, dunno if it's truly relevant)
i go in with my lone blue apricorn. see around, no kurtz's brother in the house. talk to kurtz, give him the apricorn. take a step right! kurt'z brother has come from under the table and is working!
maybe the bug is always there (not only for me) but you all haven't noticed it cause u need to go one step right to see kurtz's working place? check.

then i've 3 place with tiles problem: 2 solid block that shouldn't be solid (they'r grass and empty space) one in the route north of the first route (coming from the dragon city, in the two camping guys little square, under the headbutt tree), one in the route to victory road (in the big grass area around the weekly family house, in the up-left corner, the two grass tiles partially covered by the tree); and some reflecting rocks tiles in mt mortar (they are rock but there's the water-like reflex). tell me if u need screenshots.

just a thing: the victory road. that's AWESOME. i think i'm gonna cry when i'll finally reach the exit. nice job guy. ;)

EDIT: a thing for the shiny script. if it can help, if u use continue (i didn't, using the emulator's istant saving) it's shot off. if you can't set the flag when losing against the gyarados, maybe some kind of save-and-restart like the E4's one?

P.s. i didn't cry :D but now i'v rescued the girl on s.s.aqua... and i'm gonna cry again XD u'r a f***in genius zel ^^

EDIT2: only for zel (may spoil :P) In sea cavern, the last warp before entering the "building" where u meet rockets, the cave-doors warp u simply passing in front of them, not entering
and (i haven't read this in the other bugs) a lot of warps in caverns and likely (special warps and stairs) don't stop you so u'r warped while still walking (just an oddity)

EDIT3: it's normal all those bugged tiles right of the snorlax in the beta? O_O

Well, there are some things that seem to be bugs (the Kurt thing I'll have to investigate it, it's quite a long script, so there can be some errors, I know)

Tiling stuff, meh... And blocking stuff, well, I'll check them out.

I'll do something to fix the shiny error (though why seems like it doesn't call the setting off of the shiny flag is something really misterious to me... I think I may have an idea of something that could fix it... although, since I never found this problem, I'll not be sure about it)

The warping thing is fine, believe it or not. I'll be that way, tile changing stuff... :(

No comments about the EDIT3, pretty obvious that I haven't worked on that route...

I have a qustion by any chance will you change the pokemart music to R/S/E song or possibly the D/P version of it, becuase if I remember correctly the stores actually had the towns song(the town you happen to be in)in the original game. Becuase so far like firered youve been using the pokecenter song. Just wondering.

I think I was following the FR-style for the Marts (I think it plays the FR's PC BGM, but I may change it in the future)

hey zel, i have shiny gold for gameboy advance (don't ask how) and it won't save, and the map is all messed up.

I don't really care if you have the pirate version. Sorry.

Hey, Zel, I was just wondering are you going to make Mt. Moon all one level like in gold or will you keep all three levels and use the lower ones for an event or make one of them into that summit mart thing?

Nope, I like (besides scripting), mapping complicated caves and that kind of stuff, so expect a totally different Mt.Moon this time. It's still not decided how it would look, because I'm far away of reaching that place in my Gold.

Hey, what about Mew and Jirachi?

They have their events (last time in the old thread I posted they'd have an event in common, but I decided to change my mind)

By the way, regarding Jirachii...

It'll show up in the next Beta, but it'll be pretty hard to actually realize how to get it...

OMNIPOTENT
August 19th, 2007, 10:28 AM
I'll do something to fix the shiny error (though why seems like it doesn't call the setting off of the shiny flag is something really misterious to me... I think I may have an idea of something that could fix it... although, since I never found this problem, I'll not be sure about it)

maybe u setflag only after the battle, so if you lose it isn't (set? sat? setted? WTF is the past participle XD). some kind of setflag also in the lose battle is possible? dunno. be sure also to check what happen if u ran away (u can, if i remember well)

also, it's normal u can run away from the electrode in team rocket's hideout in mahogany? (the one u have to shoot off)

more... ah, may be okay, just know that in the next travel by s.s.aqua, each time u sleep, it says "we'r arrived ecc. ecc.". IMHO it isn't a problem, it's only a second call for late passengers ^_^
and the sailor that send u looking for the other, in the next travels keeps saying "thx guy, ... ... a small girl? maybe she passed ecc. ecc.". that's may need updating

i pleeeeease you! call a sailor "Popeye" XD
p.s. i'v had fun (and no problem :cool:) fighting a 60 ;)

EDIT1: It seems that the girl and the Slowpoke (old scripts) are still present somewhere in Cerulean (I've yet to find find them, because the only place I think they are is in a place unreachable with the exception of walk through walls cheats, thus making the bug invalid)

what's the problem with this? can someone explain? cos in my beta there are a girl and a slowpoke at cerulean, and they'r in front of the PC ?_?

shutupplz
August 19th, 2007, 12:01 PM
wait, i cant find the beta 5... its august 19th, and ive finished thhe beta 4. i need to get to the elite. how can i do that?

Midnight Beat
August 19th, 2007, 12:03 PM
wait, i cant find the beta 5... its august 19th, and ive finished thhe beta 4. i need to get to the elite. how can i do that?

Beta 5 isn't out yet and beta four goes way past the elite four.

Scytheteen
August 19th, 2007, 12:03 PM
where does beta 2 end? someone said olivine, but i just wanted to check

shutupplz
August 19th, 2007, 12:06 PM
i cant find the beta 5. where can i download it (august 19, 2007)

Midnight Beat
August 19th, 2007, 12:07 PM
i cant find the beta 5. where can i download it (august 19, 2007)

Dude I just told you like 5 minutes ago.

Beta 5 isn't out yet.

BlueSonic
August 19th, 2007, 12:09 PM
He's come so far, be a shame if he quits it or something. This pwns.

OMNIPOTENT
August 19th, 2007, 12:28 PM
-cerulean city shop: girls says "ners."

Gerri Shin
August 19th, 2007, 01:44 PM
I just wanted to ask a few more things (I know I’m being really annoying, I hope I stop soon)
1.) Will Cinnabar still be intact or destroyed my the volcano?
2.) Will the Viridian gym leader still be Blue?
3.) Will the Safari zone in Fuchsia still be active or closed?
4.) Just a wild guess, but Janine is in for Koga, right?
5.) Can you make it possible to purchase a master ball for 9999 Game coins?

There are a couple of Q’s in the spoiler that could also be suggestions. So feel free to take, ignore, modify, etc. as you wish.


6.) I’m guessing that Red is still going to be the final battle in Mt. Silver, or at least make an appearance somewhere. Is it possible to raise the levels of his Pokèmon by 4 or 5?
7.) I have one final question, but I don’t think I’ll say it hear because I think that if people thought that this was a possibility you would get like tons more pm’s than you get now.

aaronburnsyou
August 19th, 2007, 01:51 PM
I just wanted to ask a few more things (I know I’m being really annoying, I hope I stop soon)
1.) Will Cinnabar still be intact or destroyed my the volcano?
2.) Will the Viridian gym leader still be Blue?
3.) Will the Safari zone in Fuchsia still be active or closed?
4.) Just a wild guess, but Janine is in for Koga, right?
5.) Can you make it possible to purchase a master ball for 9999 Game coins?

There are a couple of Q’s in the spoiler that could also be suggestions. So feel free to take, ignore, modify, etc. as you wish.


6.) I’m guessing that Red is still going to be the final battle in Mt. Silver, or at least make an appearance somewhere. Is it possible to raise the levels of his Pokèmon by 4 or 5?
7.) I have one final question, but I don’t think I’ll say it hear because I think that if people thought that this was a possibility you would get like tons more pm’s than you get now.


Well even though I'm not Zel (or any part of the staff for that matter), I'll still answer some of your questions for you.

2&3) Yes. These two were talked about in the old thread.
4) Yeah, she's a filler for Koga, just like in the original Gold version.

Hope this helps for until Zel comes to answer all the questions.

nrox653
August 19th, 2007, 02:28 PM
I dont know where to download it. where can i do that?

Sorry if I sound rude, but will you look at what Zach805 told you 2 times? There is no beta 5, yet you are asking where beta 5 is in the title of your post. So PLEASE stop asking where b5 is, it's not out yet.

Meh, I'm just wondering when the final version will be out, it'd be great... (Not asking for a release date, though, if you're implying that)

Midnight Beat
August 19th, 2007, 02:35 PM
I just wanted to ask a few more things (I know I’m being really annoying, I hope I stop soon)
1.) Will Cinnabar still be intact or destroyed my the volcano?
2.) Will the Viridian gym leader still be Blue?
3.) Will the Safari zone in Fuchsia still be active or closed?
4.) Just a wild guess, but Janine is in for Koga, right?
5.) Can you make it possible to purchase a master ball for 9999 Game coins?

There are a couple of Q’s in the spoiler that could also be suggestions. So feel free to take, ignore, modify, etc. as you wish.


6.) I’m guessing that Red is still going to be the final battle in Mt. Silver, or at least make an appearance somewhere. Is it possible to raise the levels of his Pokèmon by 4 or 5?
7.) I have one final question, but I don’t think I’ll say it hear because I think that if people thought that this was a possibility you would get like tons more pm’s than you get now.

1) Destroyed by the volcano
2) Yes
3) Active
4) Yes
5) I can't answer this one but probably not.
6) Red will be at Mt.Silver as in the original and if you want him to be harder try Shiny Gold X

zel 2.0
August 19th, 2007, 10:49 PM
OMNIPOTENT: It's normal that you can run away (in fact, you can run away from any pokemon... including legendaries! Obviously that's not something I'd like to have... But I don't know how to make battles with no run option)

By the way, I think in the original Gold that Sailor really wasn't updated either... I cannot confirm this anymore, so if there is someone else playing Gold, PM me this information, thanks

scythemaster: Yes, the old Beta2 ended up at Olivine, and you couldn't enter the Lighthouse or go to Olivine, or go to Route42 (which means no Mahogany and so on)

Necrod: Don't get Offtopic that often...

girifarig: Zach answered everything correctly, so the only that needs a small confirmation is that no, I'm not putting a Master Ball as a Game Corner prize (if there are people with a good memory on this community, they may remember that I once spoke about something about the Master Balls, check the old thread if you want to remember XP)

Well, I did some retouchs on my scripts, fixing stuff that I wanted to perfectionate a little (for example, the disappearance of the ball at the beginning :P)
And, I also took care of the Kurt cloning glitch, though all I found is that whenever you gave an Apricorn to Kurt, as soon as you take a step, the clone shows up (I'll update my list so it is not mentioned anymore)

martauros
August 20th, 2007, 12:35 AM
where does beta 2 end? someone said olivine, but i just wanted to check

In beta2 you can't go to route 42(east ecruteak to machogany)& route 41(south olivine to cianwood)

LiquidR
August 20th, 2007, 12:57 AM
[QUOTE=zel;2779806] It's normal that you can run away (in fact, you can run away from any pokemon... including legendaries! Obviously that's not something I'd like to have... But I don't know how to make battles with no run option)[QUOTE]

Why don't make some of the battle's like a trainer battle. Because if you're fighting a trainer, the option run is still there, even tough you're not able to run.

Hero of Time Link³
August 20th, 2007, 01:24 AM
If it was a trainer battle you would need the catch other trainers Pokemon cheat for it.

LiquidR
August 20th, 2007, 02:30 AM
If it was a trainer battle you would need the catch other trainers Pokemon cheat for it.

You're right. I totally forgot about that.

But isn't there a way to bypass it with scripting? I mean, Zel is able to add, for example, the bullet train script into this game. So he might be able to add/change some wild pokémon battles with the trainer limits.

It's just a theory I have. I really don't have the knowlegde for this act, so i don't know if it's going to work.

thethethethe
August 20th, 2007, 02:54 AM
Your right. I totally forgot about that.

But isn't there a way to bypass it with scripting? I mean, Zel is able to add, for example, the bullet train script into this game. So he might be able to add/change some wild pokémon battles with the trainer limits.

It's just a theory I have. I really don't have the knowlegde for this act, so i don't know if it's going to work.

On its own scripting has pretty restrictive limits. The bullet train, correct me if I'm wrong, is just the seagallop scene with changed tiles. I'm guessing that changing a trainer battle could involve ASM hacking which I don't think is apart of Zel's skills list but I guess there is a chance that someone following this hack might have some idea on how to do it.

dirk123
August 20th, 2007, 03:08 AM
I think Zel said it was the train with only the background moving, making it seem as if the train moved.

Corona
August 20th, 2007, 05:31 AM
What annoys be about the game is that the apricorns dont have to right sprites.

And Zel, I dontk now if you are changing them or not but if you dont know how you can just us unzl-gameboy

And you can change pokeball sprites so you can make new ones

once in a blue mew
August 20th, 2007, 09:48 AM
That is 95% off-topic, OIABM!
Next time, PM Zel if you want to talk to him seperately!

Sorry. I just really need help connecting the routes and the doors.

Anyways, I have yet to go farther then Azalea. That Farfetch'd is REALLY hard to get back to the trainer. Then is also goes into the trees where you can't go. Help please? And I still need help with the other stuff too.

Corona
August 20th, 2007, 09:57 AM
Sorry. I just really need help connecting the routes and the doors.

Anyways, I have yet to go farther then Azalea. That Farfetch'd is REALLY hard to get back to the trainer. Then is also goes into the trees where you can't go. Help please? And I still need help with the other stuff too.

There is a map i made in the old thread to help you

martauros
August 20th, 2007, 10:25 AM
Zel, did you fix the grass in ilex and make magnet train move in b5?

Apple Inc.
August 20th, 2007, 12:59 PM
A suggestion for zel, you can edit the SS anne so that it looks like the Magnet train. It is a sprite instead of tiles so it can move fast and have animations without the need to move the whole background. You can have the sprite move like when Carlos is walking towards you when you leave New Bark Town. Also: can you make the first Carlos battle when you get to Mr. Pokemon's house. The reason is it is a little difficult to win if you choose Chikorita because he keeps putting you to sleep and you cant win. I did that a little while back and i lost asgainst him like 3 times.

dirk123
August 20th, 2007, 01:08 PM
Zel, did you fix the grass in ilex and make magnet train move in b5?

Zel said that he won't fix the grass in Ilex (read post 1).
And he probably won't make a moving train, since it maybe is beyond his skill. (Made maybe bold because I am not sure)

Corona
August 20th, 2007, 01:49 PM
I could of swore I saw a video of the magnet train in SG ...

BurstX
August 20th, 2007, 01:53 PM
hey zel i think im playing beta 4 and theres a pikachu behind my house, and every time i talk to it i get another pikachu, its kinda weird

alureon
August 20th, 2007, 02:16 PM
Yea its very impressive that Zel has come very far. It is awesome, I bet beta 5 is going to be great an exciting game indeed.

dirk123
August 21st, 2007, 07:05 AM
I could of swore I saw a video of the magnet train in SG ...

Yes you saw that.

What I mean is: The train itself isn't moving. It is the background that moves so that it looks as if the train itself moves.
That's why I said that it is PROBABLY beynod Zel's current skills to make the train move instead of the background.

BlueSonic
August 21st, 2007, 07:31 AM
You're doing a good job on this hack man, you're updates are nice and stuff. Keep going :)

Apple Inc.
August 21st, 2007, 07:42 AM
Yes you saw that.

What I mean is: The train itself isn't moving. It is the background that moves so that it looks as if the train itself moves.
That's why I said that it is PROBABLY beynod Zel's current skills to make the train move instead of the background.

He can make it move if he uses a sprite instead, like when silver runs past you in the beginning., he just needs to edit a big sprite like the SS Anne or the highspeed gallop ferry thing.

Ho-oh arabia
August 21st, 2007, 08:02 AM
if this works the the trade feature in the pkmn center,i am tradin over all of the pokemon and uploading the to diamond ver.

alureon
August 21st, 2007, 08:15 AM
if this works the the trade feature in the pkmn center,i am tradin over all of the pokemon and uploading the to diamond ver.

Yea its a good idea yo. But if you use it in battles some people might look at the town where you got it so a safe thing to do is, once you put it into the ds or trade to a gba game or via pal park its a good idea if you Breed it. That way it will say hatched egg came from legit town and they cant stop you since its legit that way.

drawde
August 21st, 2007, 08:22 AM
X Mode is a pain in the ass, I killed Carlos's slowpoke, only to lose later to my rivals level 8 Chikorita.

pokeguy12
August 21st, 2007, 08:32 AM
hi im about to go in the national park this is my team:

quilava lv20
flaaffy lv20
pidgey lv17
marshtomp lv19
bellsprout lv18
drowzee lv10

is that good? should i replace bellsprout with treeko/grovyle?

X Mode is a pain in the ass, I killed Carlos's slowpoke, only to lose later to my rivals level 8 Chikorita.

im playing on normal shiny gold , how harder us x version than normal? oh yeah this game ROCKS although it would help if there was a FULL/detailed walkthough.

Corona
August 21st, 2007, 09:26 AM
I have been SRing for a Shiny Treeko in SG for the past couple months >_<

Still noting *sigh* at least its fast on a ROM and I dont use A+B thingy for SRing on a rom I just reload the save file (works and is faster because I timed both).

Also I am using Cute Charm so I might get a female one ^_^

UnitRico
August 21st, 2007, 09:39 AM
Yea its a good idea yo. But if you use it in battles some people might look at the town where you got it so a safe thing to do is, once you put it into the ds or trade to a gba game or via pal park its a good idea if you Breed it. That way it will say hatched egg came from legit town and they cant stop you since its legit that way.

Agreed...but if they don't you can easily get a Celebi on Diamond/Pearl...

Also, it would be really cool if the train scripts/sprites all would work :)

~Cya, UnitRico

zel 2.0
August 21st, 2007, 10:42 AM
Hmmm... I've been noticing quite a few complains lately... Not good...

Why don't make some of the battle's like a trainer battle. Because if you're fighting a trainer, the option run is still there, even tough you're not able to run.

Don't worry, sometime I will figure out what to add so that those wildbattles cannot be run from.

What annoys be about the game is that the apricorns dont have to right sprites.

And Zel, I dontk now if you are changing them or not but if you dont know how you can just us unzl-gameboy

And you can change pokeball sprites so you can make new ones

It's just that I'm not in the mood to change key items graphics. And, why should I change the Pokeballs graphics, if no new Pokeballs with the GS effects can be made?

Zel, did you fix the grass in ilex and make magnet train move in b5?

No and No XD
(By the way, the Train thing I will not change till I get tired of how it looks right now. No more discussion about it)

X Mode is a pain in the ass, I killed Carlos's slowpoke, only to lose later to my rivals level 8 Chikorita.

Cool. That's the idea, if it is too hard for you, you should play the "easier version" :P

The good news are that my Uni won't start till next week, which means that I have a whole free week for me and the hack! Yay! (Too bad sooner or later this will be payed... -_-)

So, I'm running a check by playing the game again till I once again reach Route12 to keep on working where I was (by the way, I don't know what happens with the Red Gyarados event, I caught it like 10 times and I don't have that shiny glitch that was mentioned in the old thread... I'll try to do something to "guess" if I can fix it, but most likely, it could be a rom problem and you still would get that glitch. I don't know.

Alrighty, back to hack!

pokeguy12
August 21st, 2007, 10:48 AM
oh yeah zel , if i try to use vs seeker after the battle , it just says the text it would say after you defeat the trainer....

glitch or what?:\

Lady Berlitz
August 21st, 2007, 11:16 AM
I think that you just have to go away or something, because I don't think someone would want to battle with Fainted Pokemon.

pokeguy12
August 21st, 2007, 12:37 PM
oh yeah can someone tell me where to get all starters? ive got treeko,mudkip. i know where to get charmander , where are the others?

Sagiri
August 21st, 2007, 01:33 PM
This is an awesome game, which I have played for a while, but only recently downloaded Beta-4, I like the graphics. I think the game is awesome. I downloaded it on my School Computer XP

drawde
August 21st, 2007, 01:36 PM
Pssh, it's not too hard.

Leveling always gets you through :P

Midnight Beat
August 21st, 2007, 01:42 PM
Nice to here your running at full speed Zel! Hey when are we going to get some new screens?

Corona
August 21st, 2007, 01:54 PM
Squitle is in New bark. Those are the only ones available so far

pokemon1.0
August 21st, 2007, 02:01 PM
this hack is amazingly incredible nice work, i like the treecko event btw....im not revealing it to anyone (to save exitement)
but i can do som revamps so if you need some just ask.

good luck man! what do you have planned for beta 5? and whats the progress so far? XD
ZEL,I ACTUALLY LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! you are a genious!

Apple Inc.
August 21st, 2007, 02:08 PM
What treecko event are you talking about?

lilnis321
August 21st, 2007, 03:16 PM
I think I found a glitch. When I was going to get one of my pokemon in my pc there was a bad egg in my pc. I didn't think much of it until the next time I went to my pc there was another one there. I don't have any evidence because i deleted that save file but this happened to me.

Apple Inc.
August 21st, 2007, 03:34 PM
no one knows why bad eggs come up after a while, I once left my friends Blaziken at the day care with a ditto in firered and after a month or so the blaziken was a bad egg. But it wasn't all bad, Ditto was level 99. Boy was my friend mad. Did you at all use game shark. because I did and I think that's what caused it.

mariods64
August 21st, 2007, 03:41 PM
What treecko event are you talking about?

he means the place where you get treeko
you can find treeko in the park north of goldenrod i not saying speciffically where cause that is for you to find out :classic:

tank-poker
August 21st, 2007, 03:44 PM
This game looks good. I cant wait until the full version comes out. Keep up the good work.

Corona
August 21st, 2007, 03:49 PM
What treecko event are you talking about?
The one in national park >_>

Apple Inc.
August 21st, 2007, 04:18 PM
What do you have to do to get it though? I talked to everybody there and nothing happened

ChrisG14
August 21st, 2007, 05:18 PM
We can't tell you, you have to "find" it yourself.

Sagiri
August 21st, 2007, 05:20 PM
We can't tell you, you have to "find" it yourself.

I think I know. But, Maybe not.

NOTE: This is not a spam post. It will have a use, but a later time. Thank you.

BlazikenMaster2000
August 21st, 2007, 05:28 PM
i love this game so much, because the best game to me was pokemon gold, because you could play in 2 regions. I also have a question zel: Can you battle Ash?

Sagiri
August 21st, 2007, 05:32 PM
i love this game so much, because the best game to me was pokemon gold, because you could play in 2 regions. I also have a question zel: Can you battle Ash?

Don't hold me to this, but I am pretty sure no. But If I am right, you will eventually. If I am wrong, you can.

alureon
August 21st, 2007, 05:37 PM
6) Red will be at Mt.Silver as in the original and if you want him to be harder try Shiny Gold X

@ Blaziken, If by Ash you mean Red then yes Zach answered the question in page 7, and Zel said it was right. Which means you can vs Red in Mt.Silver. If its Ash, as in a character with the name Ash, I dobt it.

Zowayix
August 21st, 2007, 05:37 PM
zel:
In the old thread, someone said that to activate the shiny glitch, you have to LOSE to the shiny gyarados.
After you wake up at the pokecenter, every pkmn you encounter including trainer's pkmn will be shiny.

mariods64
August 21st, 2007, 05:38 PM
i love this game so much, because the best game to me was pokemon gold, because you could play in 2 regions. I also have a question zel: Can you battle Ash?
you will battle ash( he is red if you did not know ) zel wants to make sure it is still in there because that is one of the main parts of gold.

edit: some1 was faster in typing then me

Scytheteen
August 21st, 2007, 05:39 PM
i found a couple of glitches in beta 4

The pikachu in your backyard.
The continuous pokecenters
Somethings wrong with the move deleters mouse (0_o)
annnnnnnnnnnd the map

alureon
August 21st, 2007, 06:01 PM
It5 has diamond graphics. It's B4, but no Pikachu

Oh well just think of something, not sure on whats wrong and if not then Pika is not a big deal. My favorite electrics Magetzone in this case Magnaton and Electavire. Whatever works for you.

Midnight Beat
August 21st, 2007, 06:48 PM
Can you battle Ash?

As Alureon pointed out Red will be a Mt.Silver but there is also Ashley who becomes a rival at one point.

zel 2.0
August 21st, 2007, 07:09 PM
oh yeah zel , if i try to use vs seeker after the battle , it just says the text it would say after you defeat the trainer....

glitch or what?:\

Don't pay too much attention to the Vs.Seeker, it will be replaced soon by a Phone System (I'll talk about this as soon as I finish implementing them, but I mentioned a bit in my list of features, has anyone checked it out? :))

Nice to here your running at full speed Zel! Hey when are we going to get some new screens?

As soon as I reach my First Goal, as it has always has been (which doesn't mean I'll never post a screenshot, it just means that most will come after the First Goal)

What do you have to do to get it though? I talked to everybody there and nothing happened

Instead of asking for spoilers, why don't you have a look at the walkthroughs in the Tourist Section? (I think dirk mentioned something about it)

I also have a question zel: Can you battle Ash?

You can battle Red, from Gold (the game), and later you will face Ashlee, a semi-Ash character (just semi, because she is evil XD)

zel:
In the old thread, someone said that to activate the shiny glitch, you have to LOSE to the shiny gyarados.
After you wake up at the pokecenter, every pkmn you encounter including trainer's pkmn will be shiny.

Yes, I have been examining the Gyarados' script, and I rewrote it in a different way, because I think the last warp had something to do with the glitch (and the losing thing has also been taken care of)

oh b/c when you talk to it, you get a pikachu. EVERY TIME YOU TALK TO IT!

Yep, I just forgot to assign its sprite the flag I used -_- (Now there's only one Pikachu there ;))

It5 has diamond graphics. It's B4, but no Pikachu

It is not exactly visible, but it is behind your house, search carefully, it should be there

silentmagitus
August 21st, 2007, 07:15 PM
It5 has diamond graphics. It's B4, but no Pikachu

did u patch beta4 onto beta3 if so then that explains it cuz i did so and no pika for me. and zel it looks like my shiny shedinja became lv 100 before u finished beta 5

Har D Har
August 21st, 2007, 07:17 PM
Great to see you back zel! Hoping to finish goal 1 soon, and I know what you mean about remaking Celadon, I have tried beofre, and failed. Please do not follow in my footsteps, oh mighty scripter king.

LiquidR
August 21st, 2007, 11:51 PM
Hmmm... I've been noticing quite a few complains lately... Not good...


It wasn't my intension to complain. It was mere a suggestion.

Anyways, I hope the next beta will be available soon.

Keep up the awesome work http://www.pokecommunity.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

ZoFreX
August 22nd, 2007, 02:13 AM
Nice hack zel, got a question, you going to add any new gyms to the hack?

destinedjagold
August 22nd, 2007, 04:19 AM
to ZoFreX..,

I don't think so, 'cause zel's goal is to remake PKMN Gold...

to pokeguy12..,

Well.., I haven't tried playing any Betas yet ('cause I don't wanna get spoiled by Betas).., but according to my memory, it should be in Cianwood after beating the Gym Leader there. His wife should be around there walking... (Am I right..? )

Oh well... zel, keep it up! And never stop! Reach your dream, so I won't be mean(joke, couldn't think of anything that rhymns...)

take care!

pokemon1.0
August 22nd, 2007, 05:08 AM
What treecko event are you talking about?

its a secret so i can't say, i stumbled apon it after 48hrs of simultaneos gameing, but lets just say treecko isnt in the wild...
sorry i dont wanna ruin it for anyone

The one in national park >_>

but y tell everyone!!!!!!
now everyones gonna have one sooner or later...*cries*

secrets should not be revealed, it may spoil a game.. i love this hack and even nintendo wouldnt be able to pull this remake off =]

ive noticed that if your in kanto and fly to route 4 u end up in blackthorn, if you fly to pallete you end up in new bark, if you fly to the pkmn center near the power plant you end up in mahogany...

will this be fixed in B5?

ChrisG14
August 22nd, 2007, 05:12 AM
Zel, you didn't update dirk's walkthrough yet. The update is one of the attachments and it answers some of the questions that people keep asking.

pokemon1.0
August 22nd, 2007, 05:42 AM
its a same johto, appear as the sevii islands on the map maybe there will be a way to change it some day

Corona
August 22nd, 2007, 05:54 AM
its a secret so i can't say, i stumbled apon it after 48hrs of simultaneos gameing, but lets just say treecko isnt in the wild...
sorry i dont wanna ruin it for anyone



but y tell everyone!!!!!!
now everyones gonna have one sooner or later...*cries*

secrets should not be revealed, it may spoil a game.. i love this hack and even nintendo wouldnt be able to pull this remake off =]

ive noticed that if your in kanto and fly to route 4 u end up in blackthorn, if you fly to pallete you end up in new bark, if you fly to the pkmn center near the power plant you end up in mahogany...

will this be fixed in B5?

Lol it got deleted anyway

Anyway the glitch that when that happens is VERY helpful ^_^

pokemon1.0
August 22nd, 2007, 06:07 AM
yes it can be, but i havent got the magnet pass, due to the fact the machine part isn't in the water (i looked at the walkthrough,and still couldnt find it).... i gave up on the train so i go for cruises XD

but i hope that the flying to citys throughout kanto is fixed

Went
August 22nd, 2007, 06:16 AM
yes it can be, but i havent got the magnet pass, due to the fact the machine part isn't in the water (i looked at the walkthrough,and still couldnt find it).... i gave up on the train so i go for cruises XD

but i hope that the flying to citys is fixed

What do you mean? You looked at its new location at the walkthrough? Are you using the latest bugfix? Because I had the same problem in the first B4 released, but the bugfix fixed it.

.::lucario::.
August 22nd, 2007, 07:56 AM
Very nice hack ZEL. This is one of the best hacks I've ever played so far :)!

Scytheteen
August 22nd, 2007, 08:20 AM
theres also the problems of the pokemon centers.

Midnight Beat
August 22nd, 2007, 08:23 AM
theres also the problems of the pokemon centers.

What do you mean? Glitches?

martauros
August 22nd, 2007, 08:41 AM
Zel, In Gold HM 6 is whirpool, and TM 6 is rock smash. In your version HM 6 is Rock smash and Clamperl has the Whorpool. What is TM 6:\
And in right Saffron gate you can go ON the first two places of a blue fence.

Corona
August 22nd, 2007, 08:59 AM
Zel, In Gold HM 6 is whirpool, and TM 6 is rock smash. In your version HM 6 is Rock smash and Clamperl has the Whorpool. What is TM 6:\
And in right Saffron gate you can go ON the first two places of a blue fence.

What ever tm 6 is in fire red ?

pokeguy12
August 22nd, 2007, 09:08 AM
where do you get hm strength and hm rock smash?

mariods64
August 22nd, 2007, 09:11 AM
where do you get hm strength and hm rock smash?
strength is in olivine in one of the houses and rock smash is right next to sudowudo (to the right of it after you beat up[or catch it] sudowudo talk to that guy)

Apple Inc.
August 22nd, 2007, 09:35 AM
What do you mean? You looked at its new location at the walkthrough? Are you using the latest bugfix? Because I had the same problem in the first B4 released, but the bugfix fixed it.

Did you talk to Amelia in the powerplant. That's what triggers the event. There is also a glitch in Cerulean that if you talk to the guy behind the house that tells you about Cerulean cave. It acts as if you have an item finder after he's done talking

Went
August 22nd, 2007, 09:52 AM
There is also a glitch in Cerulean that if you talk to the guy behind the house that tells you about Cerulean cave. It acts as if you have an item finder after he's done talking

It also happened in the original gold ¬ ¬ It is supposed to be the guy's item finder detecting an item in the sea...

pokeguy12
August 22nd, 2007, 10:24 AM
where do you get aerial ace?

Apple Inc.
August 22nd, 2007, 10:25 AM
where do you get aerial ace?

You get aerial ace from falkner after defeating him and if you already got rid of it you can warp to Pewter city or use the Kanto glitch to get another one, Just talk to brock

pokeguy12
August 22nd, 2007, 10:50 AM
huh? i got swift from him

well??? where do you get because i waant to beat the gym in cianwood but my pidgeotto is only lv20. i wnt to teach my quilava Aerial ace.

shutupplz
August 22nd, 2007, 11:17 AM
muahahaha i love your hack zel!!

"WE LOVE YOU ZEL!" says your many fangirls around the world

pokeguy12
August 22nd, 2007, 12:13 PM
well? can anybody tell me where i get tm Aerial ace

dirk123
August 22nd, 2007, 01:04 PM
well? can anybody tell me where i get tm Aerial ace

Find it your bloody self you newbie >>
I had it but don't remember where.
I think in Kanto >>

And this topic is't for random questions like that >>

Scytheteen
August 22nd, 2007, 01:06 PM
woah, respect man. that wasn't nice

*reports*

anyway the move deleters mouse is all glitchy, just wanted you to know

thethethethe
August 22nd, 2007, 01:09 PM
If anyone want s to know where anything is or how to do anything look in the tutorials. That's waht it's there for. And anyway the fun in games like these is trying to figure out how to do things and find everything. So everybody please stop asking, how do I do this?

pokeguy12
August 22nd, 2007, 01:10 PM
ok sorry i won't repeat....

Scytheteen
August 22nd, 2007, 01:10 PM
If anyone want s to know where anything is or how to do anything look in the tutorials. That's waht it's there for. And anyway the fun in games like these is trying to figure out how to do things and find everything. So everybody please stop asking, how do I do this?



i understand, but he didn't have to say it so rude...

dirk123
August 22nd, 2007, 01:12 PM
I was rude because a lot of posts(hundreds) in the old topic were like that.
Which caused the topic to be closed so that Zel could examine every post.

I don't want it to happen again >>

Now let's go back on topic, okay?

mariods64
August 22nd, 2007, 02:24 PM
i can not wait till the next beta, nice job on this hack zel. keep up the good work

Katalyst
August 22nd, 2007, 02:52 PM
@rridgway: Yeah, Zel changed it. TM35 is now Swift as in the original one. TM49 is Fury Cutter like the original one.

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Zel, the sinking of the S.S. Aqua is a cool add-on (Jamie, I think, says something like "I don't wanna go to school today". That part was funny), and the appearing Aggron when you get the GS-Ball is cool too. I can't wait for the next Beta.

Forest Grovyle
August 22nd, 2007, 02:55 PM
dirk, I understand your frustration, but there's no need to lash out like that - one of the rules here is to respect all members. Please always try to be polite.

pokeguy12, don't bypass the character limit. There is always something else you can add to your post - the limit is there for a reason. Your posts took the thread a bit off-topic.

Okay, back to the topic at hand. ;)

--FG

Corona
August 22nd, 2007, 02:59 PM
Well since this is the only thread about shiny gold I think we should be allowed to ask any qeustion as long as its not on the first post or just completely stupid. Im on the newbies side ;)

LaymanX
August 22nd, 2007, 05:05 PM
Its not a major thing at all, but I dont think the yellow line on the boys hat should disappear for his up running animation. It just looks weird.

Apple Inc.
August 22nd, 2007, 06:27 PM
Shinygold is my personal hack of the year. No other hack I've ever seen was as advanced. What really impresses me is this is your first hack and you did such a magnificent job.

Corona
August 22nd, 2007, 06:28 PM
I just found a MAJOR Glitch.

After not playing shiny gold I reloaded one of my old save files and started playing. And geuss what happened?

It was all well glitched up. I couldnt leave the 2nd gym and I couldnt talk to carlos and when I went into a battle the game well froze with a red screen. Video comming soon :'(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMcwqP3c9Pw

mariods64
August 22nd, 2007, 07:06 PM
I just found a MAJOR Glitch.

After not playing shiny gold I reloaded one of my old save files and started playing. And geuss what happened?

It was all well glitched up. I couldnt leave the 2nd gym and I couldnt talk to carlos and when I went into a battle the game well froze with a red screen. Video comming soon :'(


yeah that sometimes happens and i do not like it either

P.S. i rated it awesome btw just for the fun of it)

Corona
August 22nd, 2007, 07:10 PM
yeah that sometimes happens and i do not like it either

P.S. i rated it awesome btw just for the fun of it)

It fixed it self so its not a problem but when it crashed I ended up back in oaks lab O.O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMcwqP3c9Pw

And yes....oaks not elms

zel 2.0
August 22nd, 2007, 08:34 PM
Nice hack zel, got a question, you going to add any new gyms to the hack?

I think 16 Gyms is more than enough. Don't you think? O.o
But, in the extra locations there could be something-not-exactly-a-gym-but-maybe-similar-thing... ;)

ive noticed that if your in kanto and fly to route 4 u end up in blackthorn, if you fly to pallete you end up in new bark, if you fly to the pkmn center near the power plant you end up in mahogany...

will this be fixed in B5?

The flying thing is something not in my list of priorities (and, by the way, it's a problem with all the hacks, we just need to get together and find a way to work with the flying posts), till that happens, there'll be no changes on the map.

Zel, you didn't update dirk's walkthrough yet. The update is one of the attachments and it answers some of the questions that people keep asking.

OK, finally done ;P
By the way, For all your gaming questions check the walkthroughs in the First Post! (http://www.pkmncommunity.com/showpost.php?p=2754392&postcount=1)

Zel, In Gold HM 6 is whirpool, and TM 6 is rock smash. In your version HM 6 is Rock smash and Clamperl has the Whorpool. What is TM 6:\
And in right Saffron gate you can go ON the first two places of a blue fence.

What is TM6? Toxic, as it has been in Gold, FR, RSE... I don't currently remember which TM was R.Smash in Gold (not that it really matters), but definitely not TM6.

You get aerial ace from falkner after defeating him and if you already got rid of it you can warp to Pewter city or use the Kanto glitch to get another one, Just talk to brock

garfieldlover94, please, leave the answers for me. This is the second time you give a wrong answer, and you keep confusing people... :(

Answering to pokeguy12, you cannot get Aerial Ace yet, so unless there's a way to get a poke with that move (maybe Taillow/Swellow?, don't know), and then start to breed you will not have that move, sorry.

Find it your bloody self you newbie >>
I had it but don't remember where.
I think in Kanto >>

And this topic is't for random questions like that >>

Well, you had a semi-warning from FG, but either leave the answering for me (since I seem to be a more calm guy than many other people around this thread), or just try to remain calm when answering. (Besides, what did I say on Rule No.2?)
By the way, the thread is still small, and I'll keep bothering the mods to run constant checkouts on the thread, don't worry, I'll do all in my power to keep this thread alive ;)

It's not like they are asking for off-topic stuff, anyway.

Still, people with gameplay questions must read the walktrhoughs and the FAQs (and the full list of FAQs also helps, as it has a few additional gameplay questions answered as well). So, go to the first post, and go to the Tourist Section, DO IT NOW!

Really, I'll repeat it to everyone: keep the things calm. You never know when I could have a bad day and do something you won't like...

I know this has probably been said before (didnt bother to check all threads and pages for it), but couldnt you change the tm list so you get the same tms as in the original?

The whole original list won't be in ('cause I mixed the Gold and FR's TM list), I ended up with something cooler than Gold's TM list, in my opinion.

I just found a MAJOR Glitch.

After not playing shiny gold I reloaded one of my old save files and started playing. And geuss what happened?

It was all well glitched up. I couldnt leave the 2nd gym and I couldnt talk to carlos and when I went into a battle the game well froze with a red screen. Video comming soon :'(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMcwqP3c9Pw

It fixed it self so its not a problem but when it crashed I ended up back in oaks lab O.O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMcwqP3c9Pw

And yes....oaks not elms

I don't know what happened (looks as if you patched over patching, or used an older save on a newer release), but probably it was just a rom problem. As I said sometime ago, I usually just save within the game's save menu at the Pokemon League (because it automatically saves, anyway :P), but then I just use Savestates, maybe that gives me less problems than other people. I don't know.

Alright. Finished with a Second run of the game and fixed a hell lot of problems, and perfected a few scripts. I also have finished the Route12, and so I'll be going to Route11 and the Digglett's cave (you won't be able to freely explore Route2, don't forget that!)

By the way, I think I'll show one of the surprises I'm gonna be implementing for the next Beta...

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1402/trickhousexq0.png

Do you wanna guess?... No... Not... That's not it... Not at all... Wrong!

What is it? It's the Trick House!

Yes, the Trick House from RSE was one of my favorite locations in RSE, because of the puzzles they used. So now, it is time for me to give you a whole set of new puzzles considering we are now in Johto, and stuff changed. So, just like the trick house in RSE, the puzzles will be varying as you defeat Johto (and Kanto :D) Gyms!

Oh, by the way, that thing right next to the building is one of the many Phone Booths you'll see across the game (I said I was gonna talk about those things later, more specifically once I start to implement their script, so I can show you how they work)

Peace! (And this time... I really meant it :classic:)

Ooka
August 22nd, 2007, 08:41 PM
Wow, zel, you are about the best hacker of all time. I know for a fact that you could get a job in making pokemon games. Well, that is, if you wanted to. I don't know how you could implement, or even script a phone booth into pokemon.

Well good luck as always and happy hacking.

SSJ4 Furanki
August 22nd, 2007, 08:51 PM
Nice work on the Phone Booth Tile zel it looks great!

Also the Trick House is an Awesome addition :D