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Jimmyray
August 15th, 2007, 01:29 PM
VAPOREON AquaCat
Leftovers
Water Absorb
252 Defence 252 Sp.Defence 6 HP
Acid Armour
Aqua Ring
Baton Pass
Ice Beam

SWELLOW GothicBird
Flame Orb
Guts
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 Defence
Protect
U-Turn
Facade
Brave Bird

HERACROSS StagBeetle
--No item yet--
Swarm
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Megahorn
Close Combat
Stone Edge
Aerial Ace

GENGAR BlackDoom
Spell Tag
Levitate
252 Speed 252 Sp.Attack 6 Sp.Defence
Shadow Ball
Hypnosis
Dream Eater/Psychic
Focus Blast

WEAVILE DarkWeasel
Focus Sash
Pressure
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Night Slash
Brick Break
Ice Punch
Aerial Ace

CHERRIM FruityFear
--No item yet--
Flower Gift
252 Sp.Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Sunny Day
Leech Seed
Solarbeam
Toxic

Shiraishi
August 15th, 2007, 02:37 PM
..I think vaporeon needs surf..Toxic orb is better than flame orb because burn lowers attack :/ And wtf, cherrim? O.o

Kayashi
August 15th, 2007, 03:15 PM
VAPOREON AquaCat
Leftovers
Water Absorb
252 HP/80 SP. ATK/172 SP. DEF
Haze/Acid Armor
Toxic/Baton Pass
Surf
Ice Beam

SWELLOW GothicBird
Toxic Orb
Guts
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Protect
U-Turn
Facade
Brave Bird

HERACROSS StagBeetle
Choice Scarf
Swarm
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Megahorn
Close Combat
Stone Edge
Earthquake

GENGAR BlackDoom
Life Orb
Levitate
252 Speed 252 Sp.Attack 6 Sp.Defence
Shadow Ball
Hypnosis
Thunderbolt/Energy Ball
Focus Blast

WEAVILE DarkWeasel
Focus Sash
Pressure
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Night Slash
Brick Break
Ice Punch
X-Scissor/Crush Claw

CHERRIM FruityFear
--No item yet--
Flower Gift
252 Sp.Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Sunny Day
Leech Seed
Solarbeam
Toxic

I have no idea what to do with Cherrim.

Towlie
August 15th, 2007, 09:56 PM
Lol @ people who are switching burn orb with toxic. Burn doesn't lower the attack of pokemon who have guts. Guts negates the decrease of attack. -.-;;

Vaporeon: Use Ice Beam/Surf/Wish/Protect. This isn't a Baton Pass team, no reason for all those useless moves.

Swellow: Fine.

Heracross: Choice Scarf, or Band. Up to you. Night Slash/Pursuit over Aerial Ace.

Gengar: Black Sludge/Choice Specs. Run Hypnosis/Shadow Ball/Thunderbolt/Focus Blast

Weavile: Choice Band with that set, if you're running Focus Sash, Swords Dance over Aerial Ace. Pursuit over Night Slash if you're Choice Banding.

Cherrim: No use outside of Double battles. Take it out for a better seeder. I'd suggest Sceptile.

Kayashi
August 15th, 2007, 09:58 PM
uhhh... no. Flame Orb still reduces attack with or without Guts

Mike™
August 15th, 2007, 10:02 PM
VAPOREON AquaCat
Leftovers
Water Absorb
252 Defence 252 Sp.Defence 6 HP
Acid Armour
Aqua Ring
Baton Pass
Ice Beam

SWELLOW GothicBird
Flame Orb
Guts
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 Defence
Protect
U-Turn
Facade
Brave Bird

HERACROSS StagBeetle
--No item yet--
Swarm
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Megahorn
Close Combat
Stone Edge
Aerial Ace

GENGAR BlackDoom
Spell Tag
Levitate
252 Speed 252 Sp.Attack 6 Sp.Defence
Shadow Ball
Hypnosis
Dream Eater/Psychic
Focus Blast

WEAVILE DarkWeasel
Focus Sash
Pressure
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Night Slash
Brick Break
Ice Punch
Aerial Ace

CHERRIM FruityFear
--No item yet--
Flower Gift
252 Sp.Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Sunny Day
Leech Seed
Solarbeam
Toxic Lol, you play Shadow the Hedgehog? I use to too.

Kayashi
August 15th, 2007, 10:16 PM
Mystic Manyula, please create your own thread.

Anti
August 15th, 2007, 10:19 PM
It's no good anyways, but read the rules first. I learned that the hard way before...Back to the first team, the weavile looks good, if that means anything. EDIT: Also, I would just forget about flame orb. I dislike that item, but it's your call.

Kayashi
August 15th, 2007, 10:22 PM
I really hate Aerial acing Weavile. I think it should be really picking out its strongest attacks. not Aerial Ace. And not many Fighting types are in competetive. Most pokemon using a Fighting move are really Breloom, Alakazam, and Gengar. Which Weavile can all take care of.

Towlie
August 15th, 2007, 10:42 PM
uhhh... no. Flame Orb still reduces attack with or without Guts

Wrong. Guts nullifies the Burn Atk decrease, and multiples it's original attack by 1.5. That's the whole reason people run Burn Orbs on pokemon with guts. Why most people don't understand Burn Orb + Guts is still a mystery to me.

Kayashi
August 15th, 2007, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by Serebii.net

Guts

Game's Text:
Ups Attack if suffering

In-Battle Effect:
Attack raises to 1.5 times the normal when induced with a status(Burn, Paralyze, Sleep, Poison, Freeze). Burn's effect of lowering Attack is still applied.

Read the above, Towlie. Guts does NOT negate Burn.

Towlie
August 15th, 2007, 11:02 PM
Have you actually tested it? I suppose Netbattle has been lying to us for all these years too then?

Have a Dusclops Will-o-Wisp a Machamp on netbattle. Then look at it's attack.

Not everything in serebii is right.

Kayashi
August 15th, 2007, 11:06 PM
And not everything on Serebii is wrong.

Manyula: JUST LEAVE IF U AREN'T GONNA FOLLOW THE RULES.

Cherrim is kind of weak. Toxic Shuffling isn't Cherrim's strong point, it needs to be a pokemon with good attack. Or lay down some good Toxic Spikes.

Super Puppy
August 15th, 2007, 11:08 PM
Man, I'm not in a good mood today and you really P***ED ME OFF!
This team could be in D/P, couldn't it?

And you said "create your own thread" and didn't want to knew about nothing more, did you? At least you could say that but rate my team as well, because I thank that anyone could post his team here, no? Does it cost anything? NO!

And you all guys only wants to know about D/P and nothing more about the other games! And the guys that doesn't have those games, like me? The latest Pokémon game for my GameboyAdvance I have is Ruby!

Just because D/P was released for a short time ago, it doesn't mean that you have to ignore all games released before!

So, don't provoke me today because I'm already p***ed off and I can blow up all this!

Calm down. Nobody's saying that they don't care about games other than D/P. I like all the Pokemon games, myself. Heck, I just went and got a used Red version last week (I'm now on the fifth gym). Anyway, I'd rate your team if you like. But, like mentioned before, you should create your own thread for team rating, not post one out of nowhere in someone elses.

By the way, when I'm in a bad mood, I take it out on my pillow, not the Pokecommunity. It really works, and it's better than breaking expensive stuff.

Kayashi
August 15th, 2007, 11:11 PM
Ahh... just ignore him.

Heracross should have Choice Scarf with a good ol' Earthquake. Earthslide is good.

Mike™
August 15th, 2007, 11:15 PM
Leave? Never. You like to provoke, don't you?
Even if I get booted out I will still be here... Yes, LOGGED IN

Mod's can see Ip Adresses or whatever. So lol.

Kayashi
August 15th, 2007, 11:18 PM
Why does Weavile have Focus Sash? It should always have Life Orb/Choice band.

Faceless*
August 15th, 2007, 11:27 PM
People Stay on topic here!! Sheesh

Manuya, make your own thread to have your team rated. That's how it goes here.

For the Team rating...

VAPOREON AquaCat
Leftovers
Water Absorb
152 Def 252 Sp.Defence 152 HP
Acid Armour = Substitute
Aqua Ring = Wish/Toxic
Baton Pass = Surf
Ice Beam

SWELLOW GothicBird
Toxic Orb
Guts
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 Defence
Protect = Why this? If you protect, then you'll suffer a damage from your status effect. It is best to take Endeavor to take down heavy walls
U-Turn
Facade
Brave Bird

HERACROSS StagBeetle
Choice Scarf/Choice Band
Swarm
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Megahorn
Close Combat
Stone Edge
Aerial Ace

OK

GENGAR BlackDoom
Spell Tag = Choice Specs
Levitate
252 Speed 252 Sp.Attack 6 Sp.Defence
Shadow Ball
Hypnosis
Dream Eater/Psychic = Thunderbolt
Focus Blast

WEAVILE DarkWeasel
Focus Sash
Pressure
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Night Slash
Brick Break
Ice Punch
Aerial Ace/Swords Dance with Focus Sash and Rapid Spin support

CHERRIM FruityFear
--No item yet--
Flower Gift
252 Sp.Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Sunny Day
Leech Seed
Solarbeam
Toxic

This is NU... I dont know anything about it lol



You do need a good physical wall... I mean an Aerodactyl can cause quite a havoc through this team

Recommendations:

Steelix
Metagross Defense EV's
Skarmory
Donphan
Slowbro
Cloyster
Rhyperior
Forretress
Hippowdon
Tangrowth


:)

Anti
August 15th, 2007, 11:54 PM
I recommend Steelix. Still, that would make three of your pokemon weak to fire, so I recommend Ryperior or Slowbro.

Forest Grovyle
August 16th, 2007, 12:24 AM
MysticManyula, people were not having a go at you for posting a pre-D/P team. They were asking you to post your own thread where people can rate your team separately. You are not allowed to post your teams in other people's threads here.

Your post was unnecessarily rude and flame-like. One of our rules here at PC is to respect all members, and the language you used clearly violates this. I'm warning you for flaming, and I suggest you read the rules before you post again.

--FG

Medieval
August 16th, 2007, 08:45 AM
Yeah, sorry for that... I was in a bad mood yesterday... But everyone has bad days.

Well, I can't rate this team because I don't know any attacks from D/P and don't know their effects. But the Pokemon he has looks well.

Jimmyray
August 16th, 2007, 04:39 PM
I swapped Garchomp for Cherrim, but I like my Vaporeon as it has one 3 battles for me in the past, so I dont know if I should swap it. I would be on wifi right know but the local hotspot in Bulgaria is really crappy Ö

Faceless*
August 16th, 2007, 05:28 PM
I swapped Garchomp for Cherrim, but I like my Vaporeon as it has one 3 battles for me in the past, so I dont know if I should swap it. I would be on wifi right know but the local hotspot in Bulgaria is really crappy Ö

... Did you listen to my post? I told you that you NEED a Physical wall guaranteed