My Team on Ruby

[Medieval]

Ok, since that... problem, I'll post my team here so everyone can rate it. It is on Ruby.

Pokémon: Glalie
Nickname: ICEBERG
Level: 47
Nature: Modest
Attacks: Ice Beam
Heabutt
Icy Wind
Crunch

Pokémon: Aggron
Nickname: METALLICA
Level: 45
Nature: Rash
Attacks: Iron Tail
Take Down
Rock Smash
Thunder

Pokémon: Gardevoir
Nickname: PSYCH
Item: Magnet
Level: 45
Nature: Impish
Attacks: Thunderbolt
Psychic
Future Sight
Flash

Pokémon: Medicham
Nickname: CHAMP
Level: 46
Nature: Careful
Attacks: Hi Jump Kick
Confusion
Strength
Focus Punch

Pokémon: Flygon
Nickname: MYSTICISM
Item: Soft Sand
Level: 47
Nature: Bold
Attacks: Earthquake
Crunch
Fly
Facade

Pokémon: Swampert
Nickname: TSUNAMI
Item: Mystic Water
Level: 48
Nature: Gentle
Attacks: Surf
Dive
Mud Shot
Muddy Water

All of them has PokéRus.

Do you think it will be enough to beat the E4? (Of course that I'll have to buy, say, 30 Revives and Full Restores, no?)

Another Thing: I don't give more than TWO TM's/HM's to a Pokémon (gave to Flygon 'cause he'll not learn any good attacks, I think.)

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Ingame it's fine. It would get murdered in the competitive battlefield though. First, they need EVs and some half decent natures. Aggron is your only wall, and his weakness to water isn't helped by the rash nature. Putting special attacks on aggron is suicide. Only one attack of each type per pokemon in most cases is good. Put an ice attack on swampert to caver his grass weakness. Items like the Magnet and the Miracle seed are really useless. Don't use them. Any HM moves like Rock Smash must be deleted. That's all I got for now.

[bulbasaur3x]

Good team and it should beat the e4 easy team rate 4/5

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Ok, since that... problem, I'll post my team here so everyone can rate it. It is on Ruby.

Pokémon: Glalie
Nickname: ICEBERG
Level: 47 Level really doesn't matter
Nature: Modest
Ice Beam
HP Special/Toxic/Water Pulse
Light Screen
Crunch

Pokémon: Aggron
Nickname: METALLICA
Level: 45
Nature: Impish
Iron Defense
Rock Slide/HP Steel
Earthquake/HP Steel
Double Edge/Thunder Wave

Pokémon: Gardevoir
Nickname: PSYCH
Item: Leftovers
Level: 45
Nature: Modest
Thunderbolt
Psychic
Calm Mind
Will-O-Wisp

Pokémon: Medicham
Nickname: CHAMP
Level: 46
Nature: Jolly
Brick Break
Shadow Ball
Rock Slide/Bulk Up
Reflect

Pokémon: Flygon
Nickname: MYSTICISM
Item: Chice Band
Level: 47
Nature: Adamant
Earthquake
Steel Wing
Rock Slide
HP Physical

Pokémon: Swampert
Nickname: TSUNAMI
Item: Leftovers
Level: 48
Nature: Relaxed
Surf
Ice Beam
Earthquake
Roar

All of them has PokéRus.

Do you think it will be enough to beat the E4? (Of course that I'll have to buy, say, 30 Revives and Full Restores, no?)

Another Thing: I don't give more than TWO TM's/HM's to a Pokémon (gave to Flygon 'cause he'll not learn any good attacks, I think.)

Changes in bold. I was forced to use many moves from move tutors in emerald due to some having horrid movepools. I did my best.

[Medieval]

Pokémon: Glalie
Nickname: ICEBERG
Level: 47 Level really doesn't matter
Nature: Modest
Ice Beam
HP Special/Toxic/Water Pulse
Light Screen
Crunch

Pokémon: Aggron
Nickname: METALLICA
Level: 45
Nature: Impish
Iron Defense
Rock Slide/HP Steel
Earthquake/HP Steel
Double Edge/Thunder Wave

Pokémon: Gardevoir
Nickname: PSYCH
Item: Leftovers
Level: 45
Nature: Modest
Thunderbolt
Psychic
Calm Mind
Will-O-Wisp

Pokémon: Medicham
Nickname: CHAMP
Level: 46
Nature: Jolly
Brick Break
Shadow Ball
Rock Slide/Bulk Up
Reflect

Pokémon: Flygon
Nickname: MYSTICISM
Item: Chice Band
Level: 47
Nature: Adamant
Earthquake
Steel Wing
Rock Slide
HP Physical

Pokémon: Swampert
Nickname: TSUNAMI
Item: Leftovers
Level: 48
Nature: Relaxed
Surf
Ice Beam
Earthquake
Roar


Changes in bold. I was forced to use many moves from move tutors in emerald due to some having horrid movepools. I did my best.

1st: I can't change a Pokémon's nature.
2nd: This team I have is on RUBY, not EMERALD.
3rd: Gardevoir's Magnet saved me against Glacia because it powered up Thunderbolt.
4th: Roar? Light Screen? I don't think so. I only give them attacks that do damage.
5th: How do I give them Rock Slide?
6th: Removing Iron Tail from Aggron is suicide.
7th: So many Hidden Powers...
8th: Removing Medicham's Hi Jump Kick and Focus Punch is suicide.
9th: Gardevoir can't learn Will-o-Wisp. And if it could, I wouldn't give it that move because it is useless.
10th: And the HM's? Will I remove them? No, I always keep them with me. I never remove any HM's. What Pokémon do I have for Fly? And Strength? And the other HM's?

Sincerely, I think the movepools you put here are FAR worst than mine's.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

1st: I can't change a Pokémon's nature.
2nd: This team I have is on RUBY, not EMERALD.
3rd: Gardevoir's Magnet saved me against Glacia because it powered up Thunderbolt.
4th: Roar? Light Screen? I don't think so. I only give them attacks that do damage.
5th: How do I give them Rock Slide?
6th: Removing Iron Tail from Aggron is suicide.
7th: So many Hidden Powers...
8th: Removing Medicham's Hi Jump Kick and Focus Punch is suicide.
9th: Gardevoir can't learn Will-o-Wisp. And if it could, I wouldn't give it that move because it is useless.
10th: And the HM's? Will I remove them? No, I always keep them with me. I never remove any HM's. What Pokémon do I have for Fly? And Strength? And the other HM's?

Sincerely, I think the movepools you put here are FAR worst than mine's.

You asked for help. Roar is for PHazing away DDers and other power up pokemon. You obviously are a bit clueless about online, but I'd be happy to help you. If you have all attack moves, you will be brutally torn apart by attack moves. Gardy learns Will-o-Wisp as an egg move. You breed to get better natures. HP is to help the fact that many of your pokemon have dreadful movepools. Iron Tail's accuracy is unreliable and always misses in the worst times. Really, if you won't at least respect our suggestions, why post? Magnet is a VERY useless item, ask anyone. As for the HMs, use an HM slave while training, like trpius and zigzagoon. Two moves of the same type on one pokemon is not good in most cases, so You need to listen at least. BTW, if you needed to be "saved against Glacia," your team needs work. The E4 are dirt as Richard Steel calls them, and he's twice as good as me. Well, just listen. You NEED support moves, not just attacks. Look at almost all the teams posted, they all have moves like roar and swords dance. Hope I helped.

[Faceless*]

1st: I can't change a Pokémon's nature.
2nd: This team I have is on RUBY, not EMERALD.
3rd: Gardevoir's Magnet saved me against Glacia because it powered up Thunderbolt.
4th: Roar? Light Screen? I don't think so. I only give them attacks that do damage.
5th: How do I give them Rock Slide?
6th: Removing Iron Tail from Aggron is suicide.
7th: So many Hidden Powers...
8th: Removing Medicham's Hi Jump Kick and Focus Punch is suicide.
9th: Gardevoir can't learn Will-o-Wisp. And if it could, I wouldn't give it that move because it is useless.
10th: And the HM's? Will I remove them? No, I always keep them with me. I never remove any HM's. What Pokémon do I have for Fly? And Strength? And the other HM's?

Sincerely, I think the movepools you put here are FAR worst than mine's.

Answers to your questions....

1 = You can, just breed the Pokemon, or catch another one, simple
2 = No answer needed..
3 = Magnet only increase Electric attacks by 10%, so NO!
4 = Why only damaging moves? Please... explain why..
5 = You obviously said you werent playing Emerald, think of what you say before you actually say it. You CAN NOT get Rock Slide on just any Pokemon in Ruby
6 = True, Aggron needs it for STAB, but a Rock type attacks are better because of Type Coverage
7 = No point in that >.>
8 = Always only have 1 type moves individually, dont have 2 Fighting moves in one Moveset, waste of space
9 = .... The first part I understand, it cant learn it in Ruby, but the second part your COMPLETELY wrong! Will-o-Wisp is NOT useless, its very VERY good to cripple physical sweepers
10 = This is why you have HM slaves silly

and the last piece of sentence, completely uneeded, and completely incorrect at the same time, Anti-Pop's movesets obliterated your's completely Thank You

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Sorry about the emerald thing, but you really need better movesets to do anything competitively. Roar...not useless. We're here to help.

[Medieval]

Ok, but I only give them attacking moves because I don't care much about defense. I care about offense and speed.

Catching another Pokemon until getting the right nature? And I would lost 5 game hours training Aggron and 3 training Gardevoir?

I give my Pokemon Magnet and those items because they power up moves, be as low as they can.

I know that Will-O-Wisp burns and lowers their attack, but WHY Will-o-Wisp when they can learn better moves?

I NEVER have an HM Slave. I distribute HMs equally into my Pokemon.

The moveset you presented for Medicham doesn't give him any fighting-type move. A fighting-type Pokemon that doesn't have Fighting-type moves is useless.

I think that Glacia is the E4 most difficult to beat, she and Steven. The others are easy. That Walrein took me 4 Pokemon until I beated him with Gardevoir and its Thunderbolt.

Ok, I think it is enough. I only asked if this team is enough to beat the E4.

[sims796]

Ok, but I only give them attacking moves because I don't care much about defense. I care about offense and speed.

Catching another Pokemon until getting the right nature? And I would lost 5 game hours training Aggron and 3 training Gardevoir?
Sorry, but thats just how it is sometimes
I give my Pokemon Magnet and those items because they power up moves, be as low as they can.
So low it's useless. There are better items
I know that Will-O-Wisp burns and lowers their attack, but WHY Will-o-Wisp when they can learn better moves?
Because Will--Wisp is a better move. Just cause it doesn't inflict pain right away doesn't make it weak
I NEVER have an HM Slave. I distribute HMs equally into my Pokemon.
You speak as if HMs are good. They aren't. Only useful for getting around.
The moveset you presented for Medicham doesn't give him any fighting-type move. A fighting-type Pokemon that doesn't have Fighting-type moves is useless.
Not really. If it does better with other moves, why give it fighting? His moves can hit what fighting can't
I think that Glacia is the E4 most difficult to beat, she and Steven. The others are easy. That Walrein took me 4 Pokemon until I beated him with Gardevoir and its Thunderbolt.
Meh, personal opinion. I hate the Dragon man
Ok, I think it is enough. I only asked if this team is enough to beat the E4.

Well, you say it as if HMs are useful. Don't power up defense, you will lose. There's more to battling than just blindly attacking.. HMs are not good for battling, so you really should get an HM slave.

We know what were talking about. If you feel you know so much, don't ask for help.


and the last piece of sentence, completely uneeded, and completely incorrect at the same time, Anti-Pop's movesets obliterated your's completely Thank You
I agree.

[Medieval]

HMs ARE good.

Surf, Fly, Strength, Dive and Waterfall. Aren't they strong moves?

And I already said that I only asked if this team was enough to beat the E4.

I know what I am talking about too. Toxic is useful some times, but Light Screen? A definitively NO.

And... What are the physical sweepers and those blah blah blahs?

[sims796]

I don't think you do.

Fly & Dive are awful. Against humans, at least. Strengh, why waste time with that? There's Return.

LIGHT SCREEN? That move is extremly useful. Cutting damage in HALF sounds useless to you? It saved my arse plenty of times. With Toxic, all I gotta do is switch to end the effect of increasing poison. Then it becomes regular poison.

Against the Elite 4? It doesn't really matter, but what you have is good enough for the Elite 4. And only the Elite 4.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

EDIT: As for your claim HMs and Magnet are good, go read any team building guide...that should empty your mind of that.

MysticManyula, we're not trying to rip your team apart. In this case I am 100% certain I am right. Your team would not have fun against:

Blissey@Leftovers
Bold Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Special Defense
~Aromatherapy
~Seismic Toss
~Thunder Wave
~Softboiled

Strategy...And if you brought out medicham, in Skarmory would come. The extremely common Skarmbliss combo would absolutely murder this team, simply with strategy. That's what we're trying to help you with, startegy. Seeing you are limited to just ruby version, try this:

Medicham@Choice Band
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 6 HP
~Brick Break (if hi jump kick misses...)
~Shadow ball (for ghosts)
~Return
~HP Rock (for flying types)

With the Huge Power ability, I believe Medicham's max attack is 480 (correct me if I'm wrong). Brick Break+STAB+Choice Band+Huge Power=...well...Huge Power! Please try learning about EVs and/or incorperating them into your team.

[sims796]

Exactly. Were not trying to insult you, but your insulting us by arguing back as if we have no idea what we're talking about.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Yeah, exactly. We do know what we're talking about. Even for the E4, that team is rather weak. Strategy>Power. By now, you get what we're saying. Please read into this a bit and come back with more knowledge (it only takes an hour or so to get EVs and non-attacking moves driven into your head). Don't feel bad, I only learned about EVs a couple months ago. You can do fine if you'd just listen to us.

[Medieval]

Light Screen never saved me. And if you say it is enough to the E4, i'll try it, but now I'm going to bed... *yawns*

I use strategy. Half of the leaders weren't beaten if I didn't use strategy (for example, I won against Winona with level 25s... my strongest was Marshtomp at level 29) and I trained very hard to have them at these levels. If I catch one with the right nature, I'll spend hours and hours training them... for example Aggron, is very difficult to raise.

Now really going to bed **does a super-yawn**

Sorry, if you feel insulted, I'm really sorry, but I didn't want to insult you... I just disagreed a bit.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Strategy isn't just using super effective moves. If you even read my post you'd know that. Even for the dirt known as the E4, the pokemon are all at very low levels. I could level up six pokemon to level 50 in about 5 hours. It's really not too hard. You need to read up on EVs and the importance of light scree, This should help:

Dragonite used earthquake!
Walrein used Ice beam!
It's supereffective! Dragonite fainted!

~with light screen up~

Dragonite used earthquake!
Walrein used Ice Beam!
It's supereffective!
Dragonite used earthquake!
Walrein fainted!

That should help.

[sims796]

Well, thats ok. Have a good sleep.

[Shiraishi]

Did this guy should claim that HMs other than Surf and Waterfall are good? Glalie fails with his nice 200 something SP atk when maxed =_= You need to learn the D/P metagame or go away, simple.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Actually it's for Ruby. He gets even madder than I do when you post 4th gen stuff. Still, he doesn't even know the Ruby metagame. Only surf is useful as an HM, and waterfall in D/P. Really though, MysticManyula, you NEED an HM slave. Trust us on that. *chants* HM slave! HM slave!

[Shiraishi]

Oh. Skarmbliss was a bit of a necessity in 3rd gen x.x

[sims796]

Fine, fine. HM slave, HM slave, HM SLAVE!!!

Very improtant.

[Medieval]

Hm... I'll try... But Swampert remains with Surf!

[Shiraishi]

Having 2 water attacks on Swampert is a no no.

[Medieval]

I'll try not to have only attacking moves on (maybe) Emerald, in my emulator... And I'll try to beat the E4 today, too, on Ruby.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Level up to level 55 and the E4 should be no prob. Then you need to work on this team. I just posted mine, and while I know many of those pokemon you can't get in ruby, it should give you a good idea of a 3rd gen team. Surf actually is a good move, but the other HMs are useless. Make sure swampert has ice beam. VERY important.

[Medieval]

Level up to level 55 and the E4 should be no prob. Then you need to work on this team. I just posted mine, and while I know many of those pokemon you can't get in ruby, it should give you a good idea of a 3rd gen team. Surf actually is a good move, but the other HMs are useless. Make sure swampert has ice beam. VERY important.

Ok... Let's do it.

I'll start my Emerald team...

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

What do you plan on using? Really, some members of your team need to be replaced. You'll be rebreeding anyways, so you might as well get the best pokemon you can. Is this gonna be a OU or UU team? Or are you just using whatever pokemon you want, which is fine too?

EDIT: You can't rebreed Swampert without ditto, which you can only get in emerald. Pray your swampert is a female...

[Medieval]

OU? UU? What is that? But anyways I think I'll get the Pokemon I want.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Oh boy. OU is overused and UU is underused. ubers are thwe mega cheap, usually legendary pokemon, BL is borderline, and NU is never used. You must view the tier list. Go to smogon.com and go to "ever grande city" and there's a tier list. That should help.

[n3croart]

Well .... it is a good team I'd admit that. But, the strongest pokemon with Steven (champion) would be Metagross Lv. 58

Perhaps a fire type I might suggest? Or raise your Aggron more.
IMO you still need a little more training. :-D

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Well .... it is a good team I'd admit that. But, the strongest pokemon with Steven (champion) would be Metagross Lv. 58

Perhaps a fire type I might suggest? Or raise your Aggron more.
IMO you still need a little more training. :-D

With all due respect, that team he posted wouldn't last a second against real competiters. For the E4 it'll do alright, but after that, MM needs to rebreed and implement more strategy into his team, but he knows this. MM, what pokemon do you plan on using? I'd recommend:

Salamence@Leftovers...I guess
Jolly/Adamant Nature
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
~Dragon Dance
~Earthquake (I pray you didn't use that TM)
~Aerial Ace/HP Flying
~Brick Break

and

Milotic@Leftovers
Bold Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 200 Defense, 58 Special Defense
~Recover
~Surf
~Ice Beam
~Mirror Coat

Too bad you can't utilize resttalk milotic in ruby...still, mirror coat is nasty-deadly.

also

Heracross@choice band
Jolly/Adamant Nature
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 6 HP
~Megahorn
~Brick Break
~Eathquake
~HP Ghost

or you could try

Agiligross (Metagross)@Leftovers
Adamant Nature
EVs: some in speed, 252 attack, rest in HP and/or defense
~Meteor Mash
~Agility
~Earthquake
~Shadow Ball

also consider

Alakazam@...Leftovers?
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Special Attack, 6 Special Defense
~Calm Mind
~Psychic
~Elemental Punch
~Elemental Punch

another good poke is

Breloom@Leftovers/Shell Bell
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 6 HP
~Spore
~Focus Punch
~HP Ghost/HP Rock
~Leech Seed/Sludge Bomb/Mach Punch

and last but not least

Skarmory@Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Attack
~Drill Peck
~Whirlwind/Roar
~Spikes
~Toxic

And those are some good pokemon to try. Not all work well together, but those are some good pokemon to use.

EDIT: Ignore the weird link. No idea how it got there.

[Medieval]

I used the Tm Earthquake for Flygon... And Salamence is difficult to raise, but I'll try him with Flamethrower instead of Earthquake, for Ice-types. What do you say?

Feebas is super-difficult to find...

To have Metagross I have to beat the league, too bad...

For Alakazam I have to trade, but a Kadabra isn't bad.

Nothing to say about the others, I could try them.

[Mike™]

Milotic @:Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
Bold Nature
Ice Beam
Surf
Rest
Sleep Talk

or,

Milotic @:Burn Orb
Trait: Marvel Scale
Bold Nature
Surf
Ice Beam
Recover
Hypnosis.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

This is for ruby, not D/P. Honestly, I'd restart if you don't have EQ. You NEED EQ on any team. No flamethrower on Salamence. However, you could use the 3rd gen version of specsmence

Salamence@Leftovers
Modest Nature
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Special Attack, 6 HP
~Hydro Pump
~Fire Blast
~Crunch
~Dragon Claw

Special Mence. Rebreed swampert if you can since it learns EQ through level-up. They need to be EV trained. That is a MUST.

[Mike™]

This is for ruby, not D/P. Honestly, I'd restart if you don't have EQ. You NEED EQ on any team. No flamethrower on Salamence. However, you could use the 3rd gen version of specsmence

Salamence@Leftovers
Modest Nature
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Special Attack, 6 HP
~Hydro Pump
~Fire Blast
~Crunch
~Dragon Claw

Special Mence. Rebreed swampert if you can since it learns EQ through level-up. They need to be EV trained. That is a MUST.

Then he'll use the Restalk set.

[Medieval]

How do I give Salamence Hydro Pump? The other attacks are alright. I'll breed Swampert.

[Mike™]

How do I give Salamence Hydro Pump? The other attacks are alright. I'll breed Swampert.

You give him that through Breeding.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Kingdra to be exact. Or Seadra/Horsea/Milotic. I recommend horsea, it's the fastest. So, you've added special mence. Will take people by surprise, including myself. How about your walls? That is a high priority.

[Medieval]

Horsea is difficult to find... but it's worth of it. But Salamence learns Hydro Pump through breeding? But must it be with a Pokémon that has Hydro Pump or not?

I'll give up breeding Swampert. Hatched two Psyducks and one Marill with that, maybe it is because Swampert is a male.

I'll add Skarmory to the team (Not only because it may be a wall, it is because Steel-types are my faves, too)

Heracross will be added later.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Okay, horsea are found with a super rod west between pacifidog and slateport. They aren't common, but you should find one in about tem minutes. Make sure it's a male. It learns Hydro Pum at lvel 43 or something like that. Don't evolve it to get it hydro pump faster. I already posted movesets for hera and skarm. Now you need a special wall, maybe grumpig?

[Medieval]

I don't know... Isn't there any Pokemon else? I don't like Grumpig.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Oh, plenty. Milotic...milotic. Ludicolo, though you can't get it in ruby, only sapphire. Gardevoir has very good sp. D. Same with bulky gyrados (recommended). Cradily is very good, make sure it's female to breed for egg moves. Dusclops has a whopping 130 base stat in both defenses, but has worthless HP. IT can still be good. I recommend bulky gyrados, though that doesn't really count as a special wall. I recommend cradily. Amnesia+mirror coat+suction cups=dominance. My vote is cradily. Oh, Regice as well.

[Shiraishi]

Cradily is awesome and I love him so much :3 Cradily needs Recover ya know ._.

[Medieval]

Cradily... If I haven't chose Claw Fossil and got Anorith...

Bulky Gyarados? I know it is a Gyarados, but what is "Bulky"?

Regice? Hm... I haven't opened its cave yet.

Dusclops... The problem is the HitPoints.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

On dusky, I mentioned that earlier. If you haven't chosen the root fossil, I've run dry on suusetions. Her's cradily:

Cradily@Leftovers
Bold/Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 232 Special Defense, 126 Defense
~Recover
~HP Grass/Rock
~Barrier
~Amnesia

It can't get roared away, so it is a really, really good wall.

[Medieval]

What is the "Bulky" part on the Bulky Gyarados you mentioned?

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

The EV spread. Richard Steel knows it. I don't, but it looked very good. You'll need EQ though. If you have to start over your game, oh well. You NEED EQ. Really, it only takes about a week to beat the game only playing it a couple hours a day. What about Cradily?

[Medieval]

I have Earthquake on Flygon and Swampert will learn it on Level 50-60.

Cradily is good, but I have chosen Claw Fossil I think... Let's see.
EDIT: Yeah, I chose Claw Fossil, but no Anorith :D
EDIT AGAIN: Isn't Anorith/Armaldo a good special wall?

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

No! 80 base special defense and 75 base HP. Armaldo is a slower scizor with higher special attack, but it still sucks. You're in a pickle. As for EQ, you can't use Flygon and Swmpert because they're not EV trained. So you are basically limited to donphan as a EQ user:

Donphan@Leftovers
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252 Attack, 132 Defense, 126 HP
~EQ
~Rapid Spin
~Roar
~Return/Counter

I dunno, that's my donphan moveset. There are most likely better ones, but this will do for now.

[Medieval]

Where does Donphan appear? Is it in the Safari Zone?

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Yes, Get an acro bike and head to that part. You also get heracross there. You'll want these to be female, but if not, make them have good natures (don't settle for anything, ever).

[Medieval]

Ok! Heading to the Safari Zone! (not now, I'll head there later)

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

We need a final "draft" of your team before you start training. Then go to the safari. You may end up replacing it and you'd just wasted your time. So we have:

Salamence (sp. sweep)
Heracross (phys. sweep)
Donphan (Rapid Spinner guy)

Anyone else we have? A special wall is needed now...

[Medieval]

I really don't know... looks like I have to use Grumpig or I'm doomed.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

No, look for feebas. It took me over seven hours, but it was worth it...trust me. Chang ethe trend phrase in dewford town and investigate the route. Use:

Milotic@Lefties
Bold Nature
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 HP, 200 Defense, 58 Special Defense
~Mirror Coat
~Recover
~Surf
~Ice Beam

Blast Away! It's worth the search...I went through the frustration, so I know how it feels. Good luck.

[Medieval]

Then where I'll get Chesto Berries? I think there are few...

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Chesto Berries? What does that have to do with anything?

[Medieval]

To do Pokeblocks! So Feebas can evolve!

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Use other berries, or at least save acouple of them in case you ever use chestorest. Same goes for the lum berry. Really, you gotta catch feebas first. I evolved it in ten minutes. That's the easy part. Getting it is the nightmare. MAke sure you buy plenty of net balls.

[Medieval]

ok. But now I'm playing emerald on my emulator, so I'll try Feebas on Ruby later.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

If you have emerald, can't you grad a root fossil?

[Medieval]

But I have Ruby for GBA, Emerald for emulator.
But maybe my cousin can grab me one.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Emulator? Ah, never mind. You now have milotic, so it's time for support pokemon. Good example:

Raichu@Leftovers
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 HP, 6 Special Attack
~Thunder Wave
~Wish
~Thunderbolt
~Light Screen

That kind of thing. It's called a supporter...for obvious reasons.

[Medieval]

Raichu is a good one, it isn't like Magneton, who has a bit more power but is SLOW like a snail. But I'm not sure if Raichu can learn Wish. The other attacks are alright.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Raichu can learn wish, so wish I don't have to leave now. Comeup with a pokemon to counter those you haven't.

[Medieval]

Hm... I will get those. But at least Swampert remains...

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Swampert needs to be EV trained...

[Medieval]

Swampert may be EV trained or may not be, but I'll remain with it because it was my starter.

Searched for Horsea, Skarmory and Feebas without sucess, caught Phanpy and Heracross with sucess. I'll search for the others tomorrow.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Really, without EVs, swampert goes bye-bye. It NEEDS EVs. Trust me. If you have to, start over so you can have all the TMs and can get a female starter. Swampert should be gone w/o EVs, really.

[Nytkoi]

Hm... I'll try... But Swampert remains with Surf!

it has too duh
plus emrald and ruby dosent make a diffrence,

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

it has too duh
plus emrald and ruby dosent make a diffrence,

Uh, not exactly. There are several differences between the two versions, so why post that comment? It had to do with getting the root fossil, but never mind. About the comment about surf, it actually doesn't. Earthquake and ice beam cover nearly every type water does. Really, its only use on swampert is STAB. In other words, both comments were incorrect...MysticManyula is new to this so we need not to mislead him. Use the spell check next time BTW. Okay, get a some dittos in the desert underpass after the E4 on emerald...that way you can breed a your male swampert. Try this set:

Swampert@Leftovers
Relaxed Nature
EVs: 132 Special Attack, 100 Attack, 156 Defense, rest in sp. D
~EQ
~Ice Beam
~Roar
~Rest/Counter/Endeavor/Rock Slide/Brick Break

Lots of choices. I recommend one of the last two moves or rest.

[Medieval]

Caught Skarmory and Horsea. Feebas is SUPER-difficult to find, I've searched for around in 100 tiles, 2 hours and nothing. So, as I have Spoink, I'll evolve it into Grumpig and have a special wall.

[Mike™]

Caught Skarmory and Horsea. Feebas is SUPER-difficult to find, I've searched for around in 100 tiles, 2 hours and nothing. So, as I have Spoink, I'll evolve it into Grumpig and have a special wall.

Skarmory @: Ganlon Berry/Apicot Berry/Wacan Berry/Occa Berry
Trait: Sturdy
Impish Nature/Relaxed Nature
Spikes
Whirlwind
Drill Peck
Substitute (To activate ganlon Berry)./Metal Sound/Pursuit.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

EDIT: Ignore the weird link...don't know what it's for...

Uh, he can't get ganlon berry w/o coliseum, so lefties will have to do. Still, with only one game, we'll have to come up with some items that aren't lefties. Now I'll do grumpig:

Grumpig@Leftovers...or something else...
Calm Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Special Defense, 6 Special Attack
~Calm Mind
~Taunt
~Rest
~Psychic

-OR-

Same...
~Splash
~
~
~

Okay, here's the real second set:

Same...
~Reflcet
~Light Screen
~Psychic
~Rest

I'm no grumpig expert, so feel free to chime in.

[Shiraishi]

Lol, splash >_> btw..Don't use chesto berries. Use wiki berries or ganlon berries.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Did I say chesto berry? Well, anyways, here's MM's team now:

Skarmory
Grumpig
Donphan
Heracross
Milotic
Salamence

Starmie weakness...

[Medieval]

Milotic, if I find Feebas. If I don't find, gonna be Swampert.

Raising Horsea now (level 33) to learn Hydro Pump at 43.

Looks that I have to take all berries I find. Can't plant a Berry 'cause the internal battery f**ed up. Berries won't grow, I think.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Swampert better be EV trained. If I had actually purchased Netbattle yet or the online thing you can trade, I'd be giving you my own feebas. Well, my mom wants me to come upstairs...NOW, so that's all I got for now. Keep looking for feebas, it's worth the wait, promise.

[sims796]

Well, what is netbattle? Never understood.

[Medieval]

Sucessfully hatched a Bagon with Hydro Pump. Evolved Phanpy.

I didn't find Feebas until now.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

You found feebas?!!! Nice! Okay, what are you gonna do about your starmie weakness?

[Medieval]

No, I didn't find it. Sorry about it, but my English isn't complete.

Starmie weakness?

EDIT: I have a small trick to find it, but it may take hours..

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Milotic gets hit by thunderbolt, so watch out (mirror coat beats it) but it can't switch in and take two tbolts. Donphan is destroyed by surf, heracross by psychic (if the starmie is carrying it, though many don't). Mence...ice beam, and skarmory is hit hard by tbolt as was. No one really walls it, maybe grumpig, but meh. Getting firered/leafgreen would help you expand your options to the overpowering blissey, who stops starmie dead in its tracks.

[Medieval]

Yeah, I have Leafgreen, but didn't complete it yet. I am on the fifth gym I think... I'm using a trick to find Feebas now...

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Okay, but before you start EV training and what not, we should finalize a solid team. Any good OU team shouldn't be starmie weak. Post the furure team you're planning on so we can help out more. That way, we can eliminate weaknesses.

[Medieval]

Spec-mence beats a Starmie with Crunch... And it's unlikely any trainer has a Starmie with that moveset. But...

Even with that trick I didn't find Feebas yet!!!

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

You do realize specsmence is only in D/P? Besides, starmie I believe (I'm not sure though) outspeeds mence, so uh oh. What if somebody else is in when a starmie comes out? Mence won't even survive switching in, assuming ice beam is used. If not, you are maybe at a disadvantage. You need a sloid starmie counter.

[Medieval]

So, I need a Dark type, no? Or an Electric type... But Grumpig can counter it, since I teached Shadow Ball to Spoink. So, no prob.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Oh no. Grumpig's attack...well, I have better attack than that thing. Supereffective doesn't mean everything, you need to be able to counter its attacks...*coughblisseycough*

[Medieval]

Yeah, I know... But is better than nothing, Grumpig hasn't SO bad attack power.

Now going to bed *yawns*...

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

45 base attack...all I can say is...NO! Try HP grass/electric! nononono

[Medieval]

How do I know a Hidden Power is a certain type? Does it have anything to do with the nature???

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

How do I know a Hidden Power is a certain type? Does it have anything to do with the nature???

Nope, the IVs. If you don't know about them you MUST look it up. You can find a good IV/HP calculator online: Metalkid's (just google it).

[Medieval]

Hm, I'll look for it tomorrow, going to bed **does a super-yawn**

Bye!

**super-yawns again... and again...** xD

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Okay, good luck with feebas. Try to look at alternatives for this team maybe...or movesets or something. It still needs work, but it's okay for now.

[Ooka]

Milotic gets hit by thunderbolt, so watch out (mirror coat beats it) but it can't switch in and take two tbolts. Donphan is destroyed by surf, heracross by psychic (if the starmie is carrying it, though many don't). Mence...ice beam, and skarmory is hit hard by tbolt as was. No one really walls it, maybe grumpig, but meh. Getting firered/leafgreen would help you expand your options to the overpowering blissey, who stops starmie dead in its tracks.

I hate to tell you but everyone runs with a timid starmie on those games(since there are no choice scarfs) so it would take 3-4 thunderbolts for a starmie to take down a milotic without recover. I think milotic is the counter to starmie.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

You may be right, but w/o special defense EVs, can milotic take two thunderbolts? If it can, then you are right. I totally forgot about that. VERY good point, thanks for bringing that up.

[Ooka]

Is he not ev training his pokemon? Well even if he doesn't with milotics awesome combination of special defense and hp it can pretty much take thunderbolts and still have time to attack and recover.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Well, he's goping bold with def. and HP EVs.

[Ooka]

Well the hp is enough to support milotic so yeah, it can be a starmie counter.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Well good. Problem solved. Any other weaknesses to note? His team is getting better...

[supersquirtle97]

fight who wants to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

fight who wants to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop spamming. MysticManyula needs our help and there is a wireless battle stadium for that. Speeking of which, is donphan his physical wall? OR was it someone else? My computer is lagging and won't go to the 1st page...

[Ooka]

The first page was aggron but it should be donphan.

[Medieval]

FINALLY I found Feebas! It was hiding in a corner... Already evolved to Milotic... Caught two males and a female.

Starmie isn't an electric-type, so Thunderbolt gets weakened. Electric attacks are more powerful in Electric-type Pokemon. Another reason to say that really Milotic is the counter to Starmie.

EDIT: It was Aggron, but I think Skarmory results well too... But now is Donphan.

[Medieval]

Ok, now you are really spamming. Don't do anymore posts like that one, please.

Caught the 3 Regis, adding Regice now, removing Spoink.

[sims796]

Don't worry, I reported.........

[Medieval]

Thanks, sims796.

Bagon "Specmence"'s on Lv 27 now. I'll evolve it tomorrow.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Okay, before you make a time investment as great as training w/o the lucky egg, you need to be sure its IVs are good and the nature is good. If not, you are wasting your time. You also need the macho brace from the winstrate family north of mauville to speed things up.

[Medieval]

What does EXACTLY the Macho Brace do? I know it lowers Speed, but I don't know about the other effects.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Doubles EVs gained, and has no perminant effect on speed.

[Medieval]

Wow... I have the Macho Brace, I'll use it. But I'll do it tomorrow because I need a sleep *yawns*.

Bye!

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

MAke sure you have pokemon with good natures and IVs! Good luck! BTW, I'd edit that first post having your new team, to keep us up to date.

[Medieval]

Yeah, I'll edit it soon, when I have all my Pokemon in Level 30+.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Nonononononnonononononononononononononono. You need to finalize your team before you start building it. You may end up making changes, as you may have to. Edit now with what you PLAN TO HAVE, and then we can help out.