Zapdos moveset

[~Rene~]

Sorry, I have to write another thread. I have a Zapdos in my FireRed team. Here is its moveset:
Zapdos Lv 100 @ ?
Brave Nature
Attacks:
-Drill Peck
-Thunderbolt
-Thunder
-Light Screen
Which item should I put on Zapdos? And should I replace Thunder with other attacks? Please comment.

~Rene~ :t025:

[Shiraishi]

BRAVE NATURE?O.O electric types have a bad movepool so replace Thunder for HP grass/ice. You need Naive/Hasty nature.(If you are using Drill Peck) Zapdos needs speed..

[~Rene~]

BRAVE NATURE?O.O electric types have a bad movepool so replace Thunder for HP grass/ice. You need Naive/Hasty nature.(If you are using Drill Peck) Zapdos needs speed..
Thanks, Cakekun. But how do I get HP Grass/Ice for Zapdos?

~Rene~ :t025:

[R.A.M.]

Well, it's not like he can easly go and catch another Zapdos.
If you don't have a FR/LF/XD game, I would go with this:

Zapdos @ Leftovers
~Substitue
~Agility
~Thunder
~Light Screen/Drill Peck

[~Rene~]

Well, it's not like he can easly go and catch another Zapdos.
If you don't have a FR/LF/XD game, I would go with this:

Zapdos @ Leftovers
~Substitue
~Agility
~Thunder
~Light Screen/Drill Peck
Thanks for the Zapdos moveset, R.A.M. And I have FireRed now. Why do you need Agility on Zapdos?

~Rene~ :t025:

[Kayashi]

Well, it's not like he can easly go and catch another Zapdos.
If you don't have a FR/LF/XD game, I would go with this:

Zapdos @ Leftovers
~Substitue
~Agility
~Thunder
~HP Ground

all fixed, it does need speed boost to outrun Weavile

[R.A.M.]

Thanks for the Zapdos moveset, R.A.M. And I have FireRed now. Why do you need Agility on Zapdos?

~Rene~ :t025:

Well, if you have FR and you can make a new game, I'd suggest you to reset until you get a Zapdos with the correct IVs for HP Ice/Grass, just to help you with Rhyperior and other Ground Walls.
Zapdos has a good speed, but the brave nature makes it vulnerable. That's why I would use Agility on that Zapdos.

Penguin: Yes, HP power would be good, but it is a pain to make a new game just to obtain it.

[~Rene~]

Well, if you have FR and you can make a new game, I'd suggest you to reset until you get a Zapdos with the correct IVs for HP Ice/Grass, just to help you with Rhyperior and other Ground Walls.
Zapdos has a good speed, but the brave nature makes it vulnerable. That's why I would use Agility on that Zapdos.

Penguin: Yes, HP power would be good, but it is a pain to make a new game just to obtain it.
Okay and so you are telling me to reset and make a new game. But if I catch Zapdos with the wrong IVs, what should I do?

~Rene~ :t025:

[R.A.M.]

Okay and so you are telling me to reset and make a new game. But if I catch Zapdos with the wrong IVs, what should I do?

~Rene~ :t025:

You'd need to save before facing Zapdos. When you catch it, check the IVs and HP with this (http://serebii.net/games/iv-calcdp.shtml) until you get one with HP Grass/Ice.

[Kayashi]

Just turn it off and turn it back on, hopefully you saved BEFORE you caught Zapdos.

[~Rene~]

You'd need to save before facing Zapdos. When you catch it, check the IVs and HP with this (http://serebii.net/games/iv-calcdp.shtml) until you get one with HP Grass/Ice.
Okay, I know. Can I not start a new game on FireRed? I will buy LeafGreen and catch Zapdos with the correct IVs and HP.

~Rene~ :t025:

[Kayashi]

Brave is really a bad nature for Special Sweeping. Sure you can buy Leafgreen. It doesn't make any difference.

[Mike™]

Brave is really a bad nature for Special Sweeping. Sure you can buy Leafgreen. It doesn't make any difference.

Use Modest obviously.

Zapdos @:Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Modest Nature
Drill Peck/Aerial Ace
Thunderbolt
Thunder Wave
Substitute. Not really much of a Movepool.

[~Rene~]

Brave is really a bad nature for Special Sweeping. Sure you can buy Leafgreen. It doesn't make any difference.
Thanks and I will buy LeafGreen soon. So that I will get a Zapdos with a good nature.

~Rene~ :t025:

[Mike™]

Use Modest obviously.

Zapdos @:Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Modest Nature
Drill Peck/Aerial Ace
Thunderbolt
Thunder Wave
Substitute. Not really much of a Movepool.

Good nature there. Use that.

[~Rene~]

Good nature there. Use that.
Okay and are you talking at which nature of my Zapdos, Brave and Modest?

~Rene~ :t025:

[R.A.M.]

Good nature there. Use that.

Modest nature with that movepool is not effective with grass pkmn, plus that Zapdos can't do anything agaist a Groud~Rock Wall. A good nature would be either neutral, Mild or Rash but only if you're using Drill Peck instead of HP, if you're going to use HP, go with modest, but of course, it is very rare to get a Modest Zapdos with HP Ice.

[Mike™]

Okay and are you talking at which nature of my Zapdos, Brave and Modest?

~Rene~ :t025:

I'm saying use Modest for Zapdos. As said by Penguinpal6, You don't want to have a Brave Nature for Special Sweeping. Brave lowers speed, You don't want that on a Special Sweeper. Edit: Hp ice/Grass over something. Edit:2 Substitute or Thunder wave.

[~Rene~]

I'm saying use Modest for Zapdos. As said by Penguinpal6, You don't want to have a Brave Nature for Special Sweeping. Brave lowers speed, You don't want that on a Special Sweeper. Edit: Hp ice/Grass over something.
I see, I know that I caught a Zapdos with a bad nature. I don't want to start a new game.

~Rene~ :t025:

[Mike™]

I see, I know that I caught a Zapdos with a bad nature. I don't want to start a new game.

~Rene~ :t025:

Well buy Leafgreen, (Assuming you haven't bought it yet). Once you buy it, do a few tasks, Then trade all your pokemon over there. Once you start a new game, Do a few tasks like before, Trade them over. do that everytime you don't get a good nature. too bad you just can't breed them.

[~Rene~]

Well buy Leafgreen, (Assuming you haven't bought it yet). Or once you buy it, od a few tasks, Then trade all your pokemon over there. Once you start a new game, Do a few tasks like before, Trade them over. do that everytime you don't get a good nature. too bad you just can't breed them.
Thanks for the advice, Itachi Uchiha. But I have a DS, not a Gameboy Advance. I need to buy one. So that I can trade my Pokemons over the other game.

~Rene~ :t025:

[Mike™]

Thanks for the advice, Itachi Uchiha. But I have a DS, not a Gameboy Advance. I need to buy one. So that I can trade my Pokemons over the other game.

~Rene~ :t025:

One word: Pal park, You can trade them through there.

[~Rene~]

One word: Pal park, You can trade them through there.
That's a good idea. But I haven't bought Diamond yet. I will also buy it.

~Rene~ :t025:

[Mike™]

That's a good idea. But I haven't bought Diamond yet. I will also buy it.

~Rene~ :t025:

Isn't it both on Diamond and Pearl? I'm pretty sure it is.

[R.A.M.]

One word: Pal park, You can trade them through there.

That is called transfering/pal parking, not trading >_>

Rene, if you're getting a new Zapdos, forget about Thunder Wave or Agility(just wish you don't cross with a Weavile) if you're getting the HP Ice/Grass.

[Mike™]

That is called transfering/pal parking, not trading >_>

Rene, if you're getting a new Zapdos, forget about Thunder Wave or Agility(just wish you cross with a Weavile) if you're getting the HP Ice/Grass.

I know that, I just didn't mention it. Edit: Typo. Darn.

[Kayashi]

If you transfer to Pal Park, USE AGILITY/SUBSTITUTE. Weavile can be a huge threat to Zapdos.

And Itachi: Pal Park is two words :D

[Mike™]

If you transfer to Pal Park, USE AGILITY/SUBSTITUTE. Weavile can be a huge threat to Zapdos.

And Itachi: Pal Park is two words :D

I know, They're both the same thing though. I saw that on Serebii somewhere.

[~Rene~]

Isn't it both on Diamond and Pearl? I'm pretty sure it is.
Really? I think it's both Diamond and Pearl.

That is called transfering/pal parking, not trading >_>

Rene, if you're getting a new Zapdos, forget about Thunder Wave or Agility(just wish you cross with a Weavile) if you're getting the HP Ice/Grass.
Thanks and I will know that. Here's a good moveset for Zapdos,
Zapdos @Leftovers
Modest Nature
Attacks:
-Drill Peck
-Thunder Wave
-Thunderbolt
-Agility

Is this moveset okay?

~Rene~ :t025:

[Mike™]

Isn't it both on Diamond and Pearl? I'm pretty sure it is.

Xd, I said it was on Both. I didn't say it wasn't.

[~Rene~]

Xd, I said it was on Both. I didn't say it wasn't.
I see and did you saw my post above, Itachi Uchiha? It's about Zapdos's moveset.

~Rene~ :t025:

[Mike™]

Really? I think it's both Diamond and Pearl.


Thanks and I will know that. Here's a good moveset for Zapdos,
Zapdos @Leftovers
Modest Nature
Attacks:
-Drill Peck
-Thunder Wave
-Thunderbolt
-Agility

Is this moveset okay?

~Rene~ :t025: It can work i guess. But Thunder wave already slows down the enemy, so you don't need both Thunderwave and Agility.

[~Rene~]

It can work i guess. But Thunder wave already slows down the enemy, so you don't need both Thunderwave and Agility.
I know, but what if a Pokemon uses Rock Tomb at Zapdos and it lowers speed, did I need to use Agility or Thunder Wave?

~Rene~ :t025:

[Mike™]

I see, but what if a Pokemon uses Rock Tomb at Zapdos and it lowers speed, did I need to use Agility or Thunder Wave?

~Rene~ :t025:

Don't worry about Rock Tomb, Is this In-game or Competitive? If it's competitve, then you won't be seeing Rock Tomb that much, unless you're facing an Idiot. Edit: Use a Bp'er.

[~Rene~]

Don't worry about Rock Tomb, Is this In-game or Competitive? If it's competitve, then you won't be seeing Rock Tomb that much, unless you're facing an Idiot.
It's in-game. I was battling against the first trainer in the Trainer Tower using Zapdos against Kangaskhan.

~Rene~ :t025:

[Mike™]

It's in-game. I was battling against the first trainer in the Trainer Tower using Zapdos against Kangaskhan.

~Rene~ :t025:

Oh, Well don't worry about Rock Tomb, So you have FR? Use Jolteon, Agility+Baton Pass. Seeing as you don't have gameboy advance, Or R/S/E, You can't use Ninjask.

[~Rene~]

Oh, Well don't worry about Rock Tomb, So you have FR? Use Jolteon, Agility+Baton Pass. Seeing as you don't have gameboy advance, Or R/S/E, You can't use Ninjask.
Okay and yes, I have FireRed. But I evolved my Eevee into Flareon. I know it's not related to Zapdos.

~Rene~ :t025:

[Mike™]

Okay and yes, I have FireRed. But I evolved my Eevee into Flareon. I know it's not related to Zapdos.

~Rene~ :t025:

Actually, go to the daycare, And this time you can breed.

[~Rene~]

Actually, go to the daycare, And this time you can breed.
But which Pokemon should I breed to get a Jolteon?

~Rene~ :t025:

[Mike™]

But which Pokemon should I breed to get a Jolteon?

~Rene~ :t025:

List of Breeding Mates:
Pikachu
Raichu
Rattata
Raticate
Ekans
Arbok
Sandshrew
Sandslash
Nidoran (Female and Male)
Nidorino
Nidoking
Vulpix
Ninetales
Diglett
Dugtrio
Meowth
Persian
Psyduck
Golduck
Mankey
Primeape
Growlithe
Arcanine
Ponyta
Rapidash
Farfetch'd
Seel
Dewgong
Rhyhorn
Rhydon
Tauros
Eevee
Flareon
Vaporeon
Jolteon

Jhoto:
Cindaquil
Quilava
Typhlosion
Sentret
Furret
Mareep
Flaffy
Amparoas
Aipom
wooper
Quagsire
Espeon
Umbreon
Girafarig
Dunsparace
Snubull
granbull
Sneasel
Teddiursa
Ursaring
Swinub
Piloswine
Delibird
Houndour
Houndoom
Phanpy
Donphan
Stantler
Smeargle
Miltank
Torchic
combusken
Blaziken
Poochyenya
Mightyena
Zigzagoon
Linoon
Seedot
Nuzleaf
Shiftry
Slakoth
Vigoroth
slaking
Whismur
Loundred
Exploud
Skitty
Delcatty
Mawhile
Electrike
Manectric
Wailmer
Wailord
Numel
Camerupt
torkoal
Spoink
Grumpig
Spinda
Zangoose
Seviper
Kekcleon
Absol
Spheal
Sealio
Walrein
ditto. Breed for a timid eevee, then evolve it into Jolteon.

[~Rene~]

List of Breeding Mates:
Pikachu
Raichu
Rattata
Raticate
Ekans
Arbok
Sandshrew
Sandslash
Nidoran (Female and Male)
Nidorino
Nidoking
Vulpix
Ninetales
Diglett
Dugtrio
Meowth
Persian
Psyduck
Golduck
Mankey
Primeape
Growlithe
Arcanine
Ponyta
Rapidash
Farfetch'd
Seel
Dewgong
Rhyhorn
Rhydon
Tauros
Eevee
Flareon
Vaporeon
Jolteon

Jhoto:
Cindaquil
Quilava
Typhlosion
Sentret
Furret
Mareep
Flaffy
Amparoas
Aipom
wooper
Quagsire
Espeon
Umbreon
Girafarig
Dunsparace
Snubull
granbull
Sneasel
Teddiursa
Ursaring
Swinub
Piloswine
Delibird
Houndour
Houndoom
Phanpy
Donphan
Stantler
Smeargle
Miltank
Torchic
combusken
Blaziken
Poochyenya
Mightyena
Zigzagoon
Linoon
Seedot
Nuzleaf
Shiftry
Slakoth
Vigoroth
slaking
Whismur
Loundred
Exploud
Skitty
Delcatty
Mawhile
Electrike
Manectric
Wailmer
Wailord
Numel
Camerupt
torkoal
Spoink
Grumpig
Spinda
Zangoose
Seviper
Kekcleon
Absol
Spheal
Sealio
Walrein
ditto. Breed for a timid eevee, then evolve it into Jolteon.
So can I breed Pikachu and Flareon for a Eevee?

~Rene~ :t025:

[Mike™]

So can I breed Pikachu and Flareon for a Eevee?

~Rene~ :t025:

[B]You can pretty much breed anything on that list as long as the mate of Flareon is the opposite gender, Example: Male flareon, Female Pikachu. Female Flareon, Male Pikachu.[/B

[~Rene~]

[B]You can pretty much breed anything on that list as long as the mate of Flareon is the opposite gender, Example: Male flareon, Female Pikachu. Female Flareon, Male Pikachu.[/B
Yes, you are right. I have two Eevees already. I have evolved them to Vaporeon and Jolteon. I know this is not related to Zapdos.

~Rene~ :t025:

[Mike™]

Yes, you are right. I have two Eevees already. I have evolved them to Vaporeon and Jolteon. I know this is not related to Zapdos.

~Rene~ :t025:

Zapdos @:Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Modest Nature
Light Screen
Agility
Baton Pass
Thunder Bolt/Hp Grass/Water/Ice/Drill Peck. A bit different, but works.

[~Rene~]

Zapdos @:Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Modest Nature
Light Screen
Agility
Baton Pass
Thunder Bolt/Hp Grass/Water/Ice/Drill Peck. A bit different, but works.
Thanks for the Zapdos moveset, Itachi Uchiha. It looks good. Why did you need Baton Pass on Zapdos?

~Rene~ :t025:

[Mike™]

Thanks for the Zapdos moveset, Itachi Uchiha. It looks good. Why did you need Baton Pass on Zapdos?
~Rene~ :t025:

To pass on Agility to other pokes. (Preferbly any slow ones you might have). And it may need Substitute to do that.

[Jimmyray]

Oh, Well don't worry about Rock Tomb, So you have FR? Use Jolteon, Agility+Baton Pass. Seeing as you don't have gameboy advance, Or R/S/E, You can't use Ninjask.

Sometimes in competetive battling, Rock Tomb pops up on pokemon like Floatzel incase any other pokemon are faster than you.

[Mike™]

Sometimes in competetive battling, Rock Tomb pops up on pokemon like Floatzel incase any other pokemon are faster than you.

I don't see how Rock Tomb can be used ANYWHERE in the competive Enviroment. So it's a huge no-no.

[Jimmyray]

Seriously, it isn't a bad move for a pokeman like Floatzel.

[Mike™]

Seriously, it isn't a bad move for a pokeman like Floatzel.

Well I still have my doubts, don't use it, Rene.

[~Rene~]

To pass on Agility to other pokes. (Preferbly any slow ones you might have). And it may need Substitute to do that.
Thanks for telling about Zapdos's moveset, Itachi Uchiha. I know already.

[/B]

Well I still have my doubts, don't use it, Rene.
Okay, I won't use it.

~Rene~ :t025:

[Mike™]

Thanks for telling about Zapdos's moveset, Itachi Uchiha. I know already.


Okay, I won't use it.
~Rene~ :t025:

You do know what I was talking about, right? It was about Rock tomb. Not the moveset.

[~Rene~]

You do know what I was talking about, right? It was about Rock tomb. Not the moveset.
Yes and I know what you are talking about, Itachi Uchiha. Why I can't use that Zapdos moveset? Is it because of Rock Tomb?

~Rene~ :t025:

[Jimmyray]

Rock Tomb on a Zapdos probably isn't advisable.

Thunderbolt
Agility
Rest
Sleep Talk

That could be a good moveset.

[~Rene~]

Rock Tomb on a Zapdos probably isn't advisable.

Thunderbolt
Agility
Rest
Sleep Talk

That could be a good moveset.
Thanks for the new Zapdos moveset, Jimmyray. This one is better.

~Rene~ :t025:

[Mike™]

Yes and I know what you are talking about, Itachi Uchiha. Why I can't use that Zapdos moveset? Is it because of Rock Tomb?

~Rene~ :t025:

No, you're not understanding. You can use that moveset, But no Rock tomb on ANYTHING.

[~Rene~]

No, you're not understanding. You can use that moveset, But no Rock tomb on ANYTHING.
Okay and which Zapdos moveset are you talking about, Itachi Uchiha? I am not sure.

~Rene~ :t025:

[Mike™]

Zapdos @:Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Modest Nature
Light Screen
Agility
Baton Pass
Thunder Bolt/Hp Grass/Water/Ice/Drill Peck. A bit different, but works.

That one, Rene. Sorry for any confusion.

[~Rene~]

That one, Rene. Sorry for any confusion.
Okay and thanks for telling that. I know already. Can you tell me what is a good moveset for a Zapdos if its nature is Brave?

~Rene~ :t025:

[Mike™]

Okay and thanks for telling that. I know already. Can you tell me what is a good moveset for a Zapdos if its nature is Brave?

~Rene~ :t025:

Brave, eh?

Zapdos @:Leichi Berry (Becuase you're using brave)
Trait: Pressure
Brave Nature
Substitute (To activiate Leichi Berry).
Drill Peck/Aerial Ace/Hp Grass/Ice
Agility
Baton Pass/Metal Sound. (Baton Pass and Metal Sound are in Pokemon Xd after purifying).

[~Rene~]

Brave, eh?

Zapdos @:Leichi Berry (Becuase you're using brave)
Trait: Pressure
Brave Nature
Substitute (To activiate Leichi Berry).
Drill Peck/Aerial Ace/Hp Grass/Ice
Agility
Baton Pass/Metal Sound. (Baton Pass and Metal Sound are in Pokemon Xd after purifying).
Thanks for the Zapdos moveset, Itachi Uchiha. But I had to find Leichi Berry for Zapdos first.

~Rene~ :t025: