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newjacksm
August 18th, 2007, 07:34 PM
I made a thread before about a defensive pokemon but i seriously am getting nothing out of it.
I NEED A POKEMON THAT CAN HOLD UP, AGGRON LOOKS GOOD, but hes week 4x to fighting and ground thats scarey...
Give me a pokemon that can HOLD UP and please a move set(if you want to be nice) and where I should put my ev's..
Lone--Wanderer
August 18th, 2007, 07:39 PM
Milotic is pretty good if you want something with huge Defense. Give her a Flame Orb and you're all set [Milotic doesn't do any Physical Attacking; the Burn status activates Marvel Scale, which maxes out Defense].
Cloyster is another good Wall, but it only work on Physical Sweepers due to it's pathetic Special Defense. It's HP is bad, too, but if you use it properly that doesn't matter.
Skarmory and Blissey are options, but they are overused, cliche and have quite a few counters, so try not to use them if you can.
robbman14
August 18th, 2007, 07:40 PM
On my team, I use Steelix as a physical wall and Blissey as a special wall.
Calm Blissey@Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP, 152 Special Defense, 106 Defense
Ice Beam
Softboiled
Thunder Wave
Aromatherapy
Relaxed Steelix@Leftovers
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Defense, 252 HP, 6 Attack
Stealth Rock
Earthquake
Gyro Ball
Rest
Anti Pop Culture Warrior
August 18th, 2007, 07:42 PM
Steelix looks great. Give him a relaxed nature to power up Gyro Ball, and a macho brace if you want it to have even more power. Otherwisw, stick with lefties. Hope I helped.
newjacksm
August 18th, 2007, 08:15 PM
whats the natures on the steelix and blissy? I was thinking about making a bold blissy but I dont think thats a bold blissy..
Anti Pop Culture Warrior
August 18th, 2007, 08:18 PM
Relaxed on steelix with Gyro Ball, Bold on Blissey. Only close combat will put a major dent in blissey EV trained in D and HP, but it will still have a bit of a weakness to physical sweepers, unless they are really weak. Still, it can wall special attacks so easily, defense is the best place to put the EVs, as well as HP.
jc_rcw
August 18th, 2007, 08:18 PM
impish and bold. Blissey needs 252 def ev's/bold to take hits or it dies to physical attacks.
Anti Pop Culture Warrior
August 18th, 2007, 08:20 PM
Why impish? Relaxed powers up gyro ball. The slower you are the better. Who is steelix gonna outrun anyways?
jc_rcw
August 18th, 2007, 08:23 PM
nvm didn't see the set, yes relaxed.
Anti Pop Culture Warrior
August 18th, 2007, 08:24 PM
Blissey looks alright, steelix looks great. Any more questions?
newjacksm
August 18th, 2007, 08:35 PM
Thats all Just need to get the TM's for Steelix now...
As for blissey wouldnt you want a bold blissey and try and get the best stats out of him because well his defense sucks to begin with? his special defense naturally will be good
Anti Pop Culture Warrior
August 21st, 2007, 06:49 AM
Don't double post...but bold and 252 defense for bliss...who BTW isn't a "he," they're all female.
Lumine
August 21st, 2007, 06:57 AM
just thinking for milotic why not add aqua ring? that sorta helps out the burn
Anti Pop Culture Warrior
August 21st, 2007, 07:03 AM
Restalk Milo is better IMO. I think Smarties-Chan mentioned something about it being smarter than w/ burn orb, so I'd use it.
newjacksm
August 21st, 2007, 07:37 AM
Don't double post...but bold and 252 defense for bliss...who BTW isn't a "he," they're all female.
Yo are you kidding me? dont double post my last post in this thread was August 18th.... Today is the 21st get your facts straight this needed a bump too.. and I needed my questions to get answered.
Dont be so anal...
Anti Pop Culture Warrior
August 21st, 2007, 07:46 AM
Yo are you kidding me? dont double post my last post in this thread was August 18th.... Today is the 21st get your facts straight this needed a bump too.. and I needed my questions to get answered.
Dont be so anal...
That was totally uncalled for. Totally. ~Reported~
You aren't allowed to double post to bump a thread BTW, I learned that from FG. I won't add fuel to a starting fire, but maybe it is you who needs to get their facts straight. I'm done responding on this thread, as you called me an anal (???) Really, don't be so rude, it's how people lose respect for you...
bossman34
August 21st, 2007, 11:33 AM
yah all he said was dont double post.. people tell that to eachother all the time.. its not like he said "DONT [insert swear here] DOUBLE POST [insert many swears]. be calm.. like a calm milotic.
Angelic Diablo
August 21st, 2007, 12:54 PM
That was totally uncalled for. Totally. ~Reported~
You aren't allowed to double post to bump a thread BTW, I learned that from FG. I won't add fuel to a starting fire, but maybe it is you who needs to get their facts straight. I'm done responding on this thread, as you called me an anal (???) Really, don't be so rude, it's how people lose respect for you...
Umm just to clarify things for people, he called you anal, which basically means neat freak.
Kayashi
August 21st, 2007, 01:12 PM
Don't double post...but bold and 252 defense for bliss...who BTW isn't a "he," they're all female.
Blissey@Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace/Natural Cure
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 HP/ 252 SDEF/ 4 SPEED
Icebeam/Seismic Toss
Softboiled
Aromatherapy
Thunder Wave
Freeze is the best possible status condition, so serene Grace with Icebeam, even though it has only 20% chance.
Anti-pop: maxing defense won't help, its hopeless, even with maxed defense it won't be able to take a tackle, and its not likely that you would leave Blissey in on a physical sweeper.
Shiraishi
August 21st, 2007, 01:54 PM
Wtf? Blissey without maxed def?O.o Heck yes it can take a tackle. It survived my electivire's cross chop(With 31 Ivs in attack,jolly nature)
Forest Grovyle
August 21st, 2007, 02:23 PM
newjacksm, it doesn't matter how old a thread is, you are NOT allowed to bump it by double posting. It states clearly in the rules that double posting is not permitted here. If the thread has had no new replies after a few days, and you were the last to post, let it die.
--FG
Dragonzilla
August 21st, 2007, 06:58 PM
blissy is one of the best special walls u can get. As for pysical walls I would say cyolster or someone.
BrainDamage
August 21st, 2007, 07:25 PM
another solid wall would be probopass, but i dont know what moveset you would want. probably bold or calm nature
Punishment
August 21st, 2007, 07:36 PM
Blissey needs all the defense it can get. Considering alot of Pokemon are carrying tons of fighting attacks and the ever so common but dreaded Earthquake she needs it.
Nytkoi
August 21st, 2007, 07:47 PM
Blsissy has a lot of health and can be able learn alot of TMS.It can be powerful and Definseves.!!i think thats the answer