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KLS
June 7th, 2004, 09:13 PM
hey guys
old-school Blasty here
i'm in need of some advice
i play a green token deck[artifact hater] (type 2)
and i would appreciate it if you could crotique my deck
12x forest
4x tree of tales
4x cloudpost
4x viridian shaman
4x bringer of the green dawn
4x channel of the sun
4x naturalize
4x reap and sow
4x rampant growth
4x living terrain
4x lifespark spellbomb
4x solemn simulacrum
2x tooth and nail
1x beacon of creation
1x rude awakening

digi-kun
June 7th, 2004, 10:40 PM
add blue and intruder alarm and a bunch or token creating enchantments

KLS
June 7th, 2004, 11:40 PM
well dude i wanna play 1 color token

Kenny_C.002
June 7th, 2004, 11:59 PM
hey guys
old-school Blasty here
i'm in need of some advice
i play a green token deck[artifact hater] (type 2)
and i would appreciate it if you could crotique my deck
12x forest
4x tree of tales
4x cloudpost
4x viridian shaman
4x bringer of the green dawn
4x channel the suns
4x naturalize
4x reap and sow
4x rampant growth
4x living terrain
4x lifespark spellbomb
4x solemn simulacrum
2x tooth and nail
1x beacon of creation
1x rude awakening

Take the 4 spellbombs out for 4 sylvan scryings. This might help with getting the posts out faster for the -twined' T&N. If you're going that way, you might as well add in the platinum angels (2's enough) over 2 of the living terrain (or rampant growth).

I generally am NOT a fan of having chanel the suns, as it gets quite narrow and too situational most of the time for me. Since it's technically only to combo for the green bringer (the worst one of the 5), so I think dawn's reflection might even be better in here, technically speaking of course. I don't recommend using the green bringer to begin with, as I prefer the pulse over him.

My recommendation there:
-4 Channel the Suns
-2 Green Bringers
+2 Joiner Adept
+2 T&N
+2 Eternal Witness

The abovesetup allows you to make use of cloudposts when you DO NOT need the colourless mana. It can help a LOT.

I'm also not a big fan of rampant growth there. I think for you it's a better choice to take them off, add 2 pulse of the tangle with 2 Joiner Adept or 2 molder slugs.

And lastly: 4 naturalize? No. 4 Viridian Zealots? YES! :P

*notices the MASS RARENESS* Have fun! :P

KLS
June 8th, 2004, 12:52 AM
*cough* so much rare cards and so much money

Kenny_C.002
June 8th, 2004, 07:55 PM
Yeah. It's quite a costly thing. Here's suggestions LITE:

The 4 scryings are still there, since they are cheap uncommons anyway.

To cover for channel the suns,you might as well use composite golem instead. Sure you pay 1 more mana, but in case you don't need the mana, you have a 4/4 body to smash around with. T&N generally are needed anyway, so you can't escape the 2 more there.

Alternate creatures for T&N:
Any of the Collosus guys
Silvos, Rouge Elemental
Tornado Elemental
Anything big in general (It could be the 7/4 trample beast for all the mattered lol)
molder slugs

At your case, I guess 4 bringers are alright.

Anyway, Try for 1 or 2 joiner adepts (found in the sunburst precon deck), as they REALLY help over the crappy golems.

The 4 Viridian Zealots aren't even really that necessary unless you're trying to increase efficiency of the deck.

hope that might help a bit more from the original mass rareness! :P

digi-kun
June 8th, 2004, 10:06 PM
if that really is a token creater deck, watch out for AEther Snap

KLS
June 8th, 2004, 10:26 PM
ooh your right
it's still in the process
howver im using dozen eyes
i've decided to take out the spellbombs
im sticking with the suns until i can afford birds and same as viridian shamans i'll replace them when i can afford them

Kenny_C.002
June 8th, 2004, 10:31 PM
Aether Snap is too costly and way too narrow for it to even see play, I doubt he'll need to look out for it (unless someone purposefully went after him or something).

As I said, I'm strongly recommending 2 more Tooth and Nails. They're REALLY what you need there for sure.

KLS
June 8th, 2004, 11:40 PM
but i'm not going with da platinums
i'll sideboard them when i get them

Kenny_C.002
June 9th, 2004, 07:32 PM
No. I don't think the platinums are really that neccessary. the Tooth and nails are still neccessary for you to be able to put your big guys down more readily. 4 copies ENSUREit, whereas 2 copies are iffy only. the platinums have nothing to do with this.

KLS
June 10th, 2004, 03:17 PM
yeah the tooth and nails i'll go with
however the platinums are just to
blehh...
and also i think i need dozen eyes
because i can reproduce mana fast i'll hardcast b.o.t.g.d

Kenny_C.002
June 10th, 2004, 05:54 PM
Yeah. Or you can T&N for them if you want. lol

I mean, what's worst that staring at 4 bringers that essentially add 4 to their army every turn? *cough*eon hub*cough*

KLS
June 10th, 2004, 09:39 PM
o god....
but who'd actually consider putting that into their deck
i mean 5 freaking mana to cast!
t/n true yeah but i think 4 is to much i mean i have bearly any creatures
what's the odds of using all 4
when 1 or 2 are gonna be in my hand

Kenny_C.002
June 10th, 2004, 10:30 PM
That was part of the reason why I recommended composite golem over the suns, btw. I mean, 4 uncommons shouldn't be too hard to find, right?

anyway, ppl everywhere are trying to break eon hub like crazy, tho. I'm not sure if anyone's gotten anything other than ppl using tinker...lol

KLS
June 11th, 2004, 09:03 AM
yeah i think i get what you mean even though it's 6 to cast it's a creature and we could all benefeit from creatures
(my new deck)
12x forest
4x tree of tales
4x cloudpost
4x viridian zealot
4x bringer of the green dawn
4x composite golem
4x naturalize
4x reap and sow
4x rampant growth
4x living terrain
4x dozen eyes
4x solemn simulacrum
2x tooth and nail
1x beacon of creation
1x pulse of the tangle

Kenny_C.002
June 11th, 2004, 11:57 PM
yeah, it's shaping up nicely. hehe

btw, GO PULSE OF THE TANGLE! TAKE THAT, CALL OF THE HERD! :P

KLS
June 12th, 2004, 12:47 AM
lol thanks man
call of the herd isn't that form oddesey?

Kenny_C.002
June 12th, 2004, 11:44 AM
Yup. It's the 15 dollar card that I have absolutely no idea why it costs so much. I mean, pulse of the tangle's better than that...

KLS
June 12th, 2004, 09:01 PM
yeah i think i get what you mean even though it's 6 to cast it's a creature and we could all benefeit from creatures
(my new deck)
12x forest
4x tree of tales
4x cloudpost
4x viridian zealot
4x bringer of the green dawn
4x composite golem
4x naturalize
4x reap and sow
4x rampant growth
4x living terrain
4x dozen eyes
4x solemn simulacrum
2x tooth and nail
1x beacon of creation
1x pulse of the tangle
yo kenz i found out today that this deck is WAY TOO SLOW
so here's what i did
16x forest
4x cloudpost
4x viridian zealot
4x bringer of the green dawn
4x composite golem
4x naturalize
4x vernal bloom
4x rampant growth
4x eternal witness
4x troll ascentics
4x solemn simulacrum
2x tooth and nail
1x beacon of creation
1x pulse of the tangle

Kenny_C.002
June 12th, 2004, 09:11 PM
I was about to recommend vernal blooms. lol

KLS
June 12th, 2004, 09:14 PM
ascentics and the e.witnesses are like god man
it's friggin good for my deck
t.ascentics = untouchable

Kenny_C.002
June 12th, 2004, 10:55 PM
Eternal Witness are the goddesses here. I recommend 4 copies in every green deck from now on! :P

btw, I need 3 more for slide. grrrrrr....(Wants 2 non-shiny and 1 shiny)

KLS
June 12th, 2004, 11:12 PM
slide?
wat do u mean?
i didnt know ascentics were so good i mean i practically rushed with it
lol
true witnesses are good i mean can you say PULSE OF THE TANGLE LIKE FOREVER
lol

Kenny_C.002
June 12th, 2004, 11:49 PM
Astral slide decks are called "slide".

With slide, eternal witness is like...broken.

KLS
June 13th, 2004, 10:30 AM
why would it be broken?
what does astral slide do?
wait isn't it that 1 card when you cycle a card deal 2 damage to opponent?
if it is
it would be broken as ****

Kenny_C.002
June 13th, 2004, 11:41 AM
No, it's the remove target creature one. Meaning you can cycle your renewed faith, remove witness from play (after damage goes on the stack from blocking). She coems back at the end of turn, with the renewed faith in your hand again. Combo that with lightning rift and it's a world of hurt.

KLS
June 13th, 2004, 09:10 PM
what's renewed faith do/
and lightning rift is the cycle deal 2 damage right?

Kenny_C.002
June 13th, 2004, 10:02 PM
renewed faith 2W
instant
you gain 6 life
cycle 1W
when you cycle renewed faith, you may gain 2 life

yes on rift.

KLS
June 14th, 2004, 11:48 AM
holy CRAP!!!!!
**** where do you come up with these combos?

Kenny_C.002
June 15th, 2004, 05:35 PM
Ummmm.......you know I'm like a pure Johnny right? So I like make combos like mad when I'm playing Magic. lol

And it just comes to me...when I'm checking things out...I think?

KLS
June 16th, 2004, 12:50 AM
and i'm like 70% spike no
i'm sure i'm pure spike
but the johnny-ness inside of me is making me play that b.o.t.g.d deck
so i'm like 10% johnny-ness

Kenny_C.002
June 16th, 2004, 11:23 PM
Yeah, spikeys...I'm not a big fan of most spikes tho. Those tend to be quite arrogant and stuff (like more than me).

KLS
June 16th, 2004, 11:24 PM
are you implying that i'm arrogant?
lol j/k
yeah i know that i'm arrogant i call people n00bs just cause they use high attacking creatures....

KLS
June 17th, 2004, 10:28 AM
yo kenz i found out today that this deck is WAY TOO SLOW
so here's what i did
16x forest
4x cloudpost
4x viridian zealot
4x bringer of the green dawn
4x composite golem
4x naturalize
4x vernal bloom
4x rampant growth
4x eternal witness
4x troll ascentics
4x solemn simulacrum
2x tooth and nail
1x beacon of creation
1x pulse of the tangle
i'm gonna stop this green deck and i'll try THIS
16x forest
4x cloudpost
4x viridian zealot
4x tornado elemental
4x birds of paradise
4x naturalize
4x vernal bloom
4x rampant growth
4x eternal witness
4x troll ascentics
4x solemn simulacrum
2x tooth and nail
2x plated slagwurm

Kenny_C.002
June 17th, 2004, 10:52 PM
Double posting. SHAME!

btw, new deck is killer. And anti Akroma. BOO (I just GOT one lol)!

KLS
June 17th, 2004, 11:07 PM
anti-flying actually
this is
anti-artifacts,flying,weenies
do you like it?

Kenny_C.002
June 17th, 2004, 11:35 PM
I can't see the weenie part tho. Either way, I like the solidness of the deck. It's almost as diabolical as reanimator decks.

KLS
June 17th, 2004, 11:55 PM
why look at them big creatures

Kenny_C.002
June 18th, 2004, 11:15 AM
Yeah, but you have to know that weenie decks don't care if 1 or 2 big creatures are in the way of an army of little guys going through to you. But I guess...

KLS
June 18th, 2004, 02:36 PM
it's pretty easy gettin rid of the weenies becausei've got like zealots,troll ascetics,and witnesses
pretty soon my whole deck will be rare