View Full Version : ~ School ~ Needed or Not? ~
Kayashi
August 21st, 2007, 01:49 PM
Well people, do you think we should have school or not?
I say no cuz I fall asleep anyways XDD
whatta bout u? Do u think there should be skool?
Rebellious Treecko
August 21st, 2007, 01:57 PM
School made me emo. ;_;
It was so stressful for me, I couldn't bear it sometimes.
I think there should be other ways to gain knowledge besides school.
Shiraishi
August 21st, 2007, 02:00 PM
School made me emo. ;_;
It was so stressful for me, I couldn't bear it sometimes.
I think there should be other ways to gain knowledge besides school.
Agreed. Lets build a time machine to kill the french king charlemange(spelling?) He somewhat invented/encouraged schools :O
Tacharine
August 21st, 2007, 02:03 PM
Yes, but Homework is not not nessessary.
It dosen't help, it just lowers your grade.
It's putting more pressure on students, then helping them learn.
Kayashi
August 21st, 2007, 02:05 PM
School made me emo. ;_;
:pirate: is there something wrong with being emo? jeez person >_<
I'm emo so dont mock me. :paranoid: Skool sucks
Crystal Hikari
August 21st, 2007, 02:12 PM
School is not needed, I just hate getting up on Monday mornings, I'm always depressed when a school Monday comes
Punishment
August 21st, 2007, 02:16 PM
School is needed but my educational experience would have been better if it weren't mandatory. Then I wouldn't have to put up with those idiots who dont want to learn.
Allstories
August 21st, 2007, 02:21 PM
I like school. I'd be knowledgeably and socially retarded without it.
BlueSonic
August 21st, 2007, 02:46 PM
Dont really care, just one of them things you have to do ^_^
Vavavoom ♣
August 21st, 2007, 02:54 PM
Going to school is very important for me... I want to learn things that will help me when I'll be an adult. ^^
Mooshykris
August 21st, 2007, 02:58 PM
I believe though school may be boring at times, it is very important for your future.
Tangerine Fox
August 21st, 2007, 03:01 PM
School is important, simple as that. Sadly, most school systsms seem really messed up. But the idea of not having school is ridiculous, IMO. Education is something a lot of people take for granted, but without an education, you couldn't even tell what I'm saying right now. =/
While I'll gripe about certain subjects, I know I've still got to do it, even if I forget it after graduation. I know my schooling isn't like most people's, so I can't even speak for the average student, but I actually like most of my classes, like English and Web Design. <3
Plus, lots of people would LOVE to go to school and can't. So, I try to keep that in mind when I'm stuck on asymtopes or logs. Another plus is more education means better jobs, which means better pay when I move out. :cough:
Kurono
August 21st, 2007, 03:04 PM
Sure its annoying, tedious and/or stressful, but its worth it considering the kinds of thing you might learn that you might not have learned without school.
besides
i has nothin' better to do with my time.
Delano
August 21st, 2007, 03:09 PM
school IS necessary. even if you struggle through it, its necessary for you education, and socially. and if you're sleeping through the whole thing, you're still gaining the experience of going to school
okay, maybe im speaking this way because i like my school. but i still love it even though i was just scratching through, lol. im gonna miss it, im going to college in a week, and im looking forward to it.
Tr@ce
August 21st, 2007, 03:57 PM
We do need school, but less than we have right now.
BlueSonic
August 21st, 2007, 04:01 PM
Well, it's law, so I'm failing to see the point of this topic.
Tr@ce
August 21st, 2007, 04:02 PM
Uhm... for people's opinions, duh.
Himawarii
August 21st, 2007, 04:05 PM
I think school is needed whether we like it or not.~Cause like,if we didn't,we'd be very unknowledable xDD;
.::lucario::.
August 21st, 2007, 04:12 PM
Dont really care, just one of them things you have to do ^_^
I agree with Bluesonic. It's just one of the things I have to do.
Lightning
August 21st, 2007, 04:40 PM
School is important, simple as that. Sadly, most school systsms seem really messed up. But the idea of not having school is ridiculous, IMO. Education is something a lot of people take for granted, but without an education, you couldn't even tell what I'm saying right now. =/
I couldn't have put it better myself!
School is important and a lot of people don't realize just why they need school. I remember I hated school for a while, but now all I want is it to not end. The thought of going into the real world is kinda scary after all. So yay for post-secondary! Ahaha.
BlueSonic
August 21st, 2007, 04:46 PM
I couldn't have put it better myself!
School is important and a lot of people don't realize just why they need school. I remember I hated school for a while, but now all I want is it to not end. The thought of going into the real world is kinda scary after all. So yay for post-secondary! Ahaha.
Depends on the person really :)
sims796
August 21st, 2007, 04:49 PM
I couldn't have put it better myself!
School is important and a lot of people don't realize just why they need school. I remember I hated school for a while, but now all I want is it to not end. The thought of going into the real world is kinda scary after all. So yay for post-secondary! Ahaha.
That is exactly how I feel. I'm so scared go go out the real world, so school is my crutch. But I need something to do in the morning. So, although I dislike it, and feel like pressing this button to trigger the explosives I placed, I don't wan't it to go.
AnimeDDR110
August 21st, 2007, 04:51 PM
as long as you know most of the things you need for life & will never use again i say there is no need for school.
pokejungle
August 21st, 2007, 04:53 PM
lulz I want no school!!!! it's teh borningness!!!!!oneoneone!!111
I want to grow up to be an uneducated redneck YEEEEHAAAA :B
Manaphy1128
August 21st, 2007, 05:11 PM
For me, it's the teachers that aren't neede. maybe school would be better without those lousy ones that just slam papers and home wrok on you.
So school is needed. All the exta crap, isn't.
Kayashi
August 21st, 2007, 05:14 PM
The "educational" part isn't needed. It is just naptime -.-
The other parts are, like talking to friends, and flirting.
pokejungle
August 21st, 2007, 05:17 PM
The "educational" part isn't needed. It is just naptime -.-
The other parts are, like talking to friends, and flirting.
I don't think 11 year olds need to flirt, or really understand the art of flirting in the first place.
That is, if you really are 11.
Suki
August 21st, 2007, 05:50 PM
Of course school is needed. How would you be able to get decent jobs and learn important knowledge. Although it might be the most boring thing we still need to go.
Calypso.
August 21st, 2007, 05:51 PM
i'd say yes school is important, if we didn't go to school, our brains would turn to mush
Kayashi
August 21st, 2007, 05:53 PM
i'd say yes school is important, if we didn't go to school, our brains would turn to mush
Are you making fun of me ? lol
It really is boring.
Calypso.
August 21st, 2007, 05:54 PM
i'm not making fun of you, summer if fun and all, but after a while you'd go crazy!
Sana
August 21st, 2007, 06:21 PM
School is needed, whether you like it or not. Sure, you can try not to go to school, but even if you could get away with it, you'd get nowhere in life. If you want to survive in the real world with a respectable job, you need at least high school. ;D
GOPgabe
August 21st, 2007, 06:44 PM
We Need more videos rather than teachers. I miss T.G.I.F.
Dogboy2709
August 21st, 2007, 07:28 PM
I'd say School is not needed, we could learn stuff from watching educational videos at home, and via the internet. heck, i learn more stuf listing to the radio then i do i school, and get this, the stuff i learn listing to the radio, i never learned in school, like Bussiness infomation, sleep intellingence, and more
Jordan
August 21st, 2007, 08:28 PM
The answer's pretty obvious. The world demands knowledge, and this is the one stop for it. Besides, concentrating on schoolwork is a great excuse for not getting a dang job. School can be fun if you choose your courses right and apply early.
Jordan.
P.S.: When I saw who this poll was created by, I immediately knew what he chose as his answer.
Kayashi
August 21st, 2007, 08:35 PM
The answer's pretty obvious. The world demands knowledge, and this is the one stop for it. Besides, concentrating on schoolwork is a great excuse for not getting a dang job. School can be fun if you choose your courses right and apply early.
Jordan.
P.S.: When I saw who this poll was created by, I immediately knew what he chose as his answer.
And when I saw ur post, I immediately knew ur answer :P
And its a Public Poll BTW
Jaimes
August 21st, 2007, 08:46 PM
Urgh.. Whiney kids always complaining about how much they don't need school. A recipe for future society going to pot.
The "educational" part isn't needed. It is just naptime -.-
From high salary important jobs, Doctors, lawyers and scientists to everyday office workers, yes, education is needed. It's just amazingly hypocritical you are to say this. Without an education, you'd probably have difficulty speaking, typing and communicating let alone getting any job.
Also further education is the foundations for critical jobs, (such as biology for future medics or foriegn languages for correspondence). True there are some useless subjects, but all have some benefits.
Education also gives us qualifications, distinguishing the able from the less able, necessary for jobs.
School teaches us useful things that we won't learn from everyday life.
Some people enjoy school. I only left this summer and do miss the environment of my friends, activities and subjects that I picked (I got to choose all mine).
Without a group of peers from a similar age group such as in school, you are less likely to develop social skills to help you throughout life. Which is likely to effect the chance of you getting a partner.
School keeps children busy and tutors them about discipline. Before compulsory schooling was around, the crime rate for young offenders was drastically higher.
I'd say School is not needed, we could learn stuff from watching educational videos at home, and via the internet.
What about those who choose not to? Or those without the facilities? There would be no control or order. Teachers maintain the system, otherwise havoc would follow.
So yes we do need school. Thats why it's the law. Duh...
Kayashi
August 21st, 2007, 08:49 PM
Urgh.. Whiney kids always complaining about how much they don't need school.
OK, everyone listen to Mr. Perfect over here.
Its just our opinion. yeesh, and I'm the one whining :laugh:
pokejungle
August 21st, 2007, 09:16 PM
OK, everyone listen to Mr. Perfect over here.
Its just our opinion. yeesh, and I'm the one whining :laugh:
lulz, maybe you'll understand when you're older.
Sabaku no Gaara
August 21st, 2007, 09:22 PM
I find school very easy, and yes I believe it's needed, because if it didn't exist, we might as well have lived in the dinosaur age or whatever. If it wasn't for school, we wouldn't be on PC anyways. If you ask me, those who think school is a waste of time need to realize what they're actually saying.
Alex_
August 21st, 2007, 09:24 PM
The man who holds the highest IQ in the world was self-taught because he didn't believe in school.
Anyway despite that, I do feel school is needed. Maybe not for all, but for alot of people.
pokejungle
August 21st, 2007, 09:24 PM
I find school very easy, and yes I believe it's needed, because if it didn't exist, we might as well have lived in the dinosaur age or whatever. If it wasn't for school, we wouldn't be on PC anyways. If you ask me, those who think school is a waste of time need to realize what they're actually saying.
Why would PC depend on school?
Sabaku no Gaara
August 21st, 2007, 09:26 PM
Ok, without education, we wouldn't be intellegent enough to even create a forum let alone a computer. We'd all be living in caves or dumpy houses made of grass or something. Knowledge is probably the most important thing in our lives nowadays. Without we won't have a good job, and won't do good in the real world.
pokejungle
August 21st, 2007, 09:29 PM
Ok, without education, we wouldn't be intellegent enough to even create a forum let alone a computer. We'd all be living in caves or dumpy houses made of grass or something. Knowledge is probably the most important thing in our lives nowadays. Without we won't have a good job, and won't do good in the real world.
I suppose that makes some sense.
But I do see a fair amount of posters that should spend more time on their educations. Fo'shizzle.
Alex_
August 21st, 2007, 09:30 PM
@Pipluper: So you're saying humans would stay dumb and incompetent without school? How do you think teachers gained the knowledge to teach? It all didn't come to them one day, they learned over time.
Sabaku no Gaara
August 21st, 2007, 09:30 PM
But I do see a fair amount of posters that should spend more time on their educations. Fo'shizzle.
Do you mean by the way they type? XD Also we wouldn't know how to read or write.
@TD And how did they learn? By going to teaching school. Duh......
wakachamo
August 21st, 2007, 09:35 PM
If you find school a waste, then you're one of those dudes that thinks the perfect life is living homeless in the streets asking for empty bottles to sell for profit.
Just my two cents.
Alex_
August 21st, 2007, 09:36 PM
Do you mean by the way they type? XD Also we wouldn't know how to read or write.
@TD And how did they learn? By going to teaching school. Duh......
What a great reply... You don't get it. How do you think those who are at "teaching school" learned it? You are making it seem like a big book that tells everyone everything fell from the sky and told all teachers what to teach and how to do it. As nice as that'd be it didn't happen. How do you think the original people who got all of this knowledge in the beginning learned it? Please don't reply with teaching school, either.
Sabaku no Gaara
August 21st, 2007, 09:40 PM
What a great reply... You don't get it. How do you think those who are at "teaching school" learned it? You are making it seem like a big book that tells everyone everything fell from the sky and told all teachers what to teach and how to do it. As nice as that'd be it didn't happen. How do you think the original people who got all of this knowledge in the beginning learned it? Please don't reply with teaching school, either.
Wakachamo took the words right out of my mouth. Well keyboard. XD
I understand what you're saying now. I know a book didn't fall out of the sky. I'm speaking this day in age. If none of us knew anything, do you think we could develop at all? In my opinion I don't think so. Also, do you think school is unimportant?
Jaimes
August 21st, 2007, 09:41 PM
What a great reply... You don't get it. How do you think those who are at "teaching school" learned it? You are making it seem like a big book that tells everyone everything fell from the sky and told all teachers what to teach and how to do it. As nice as that'd be it didn't happen. How do you think the original people who got all of this knowledge in the beginning learned it? Please don't reply with teaching school, either.
Are you trying to get some sort of 'what came first the chicken or the egg' scenario? Of course teachers learned from schools. And so on and so on. They will continue to do this in the future as well.
Your so called 'original people' made discoveries of their own accord (Darwin, Newton etc) and schools taught it too the public.
Alex_
August 21st, 2007, 09:42 PM
I think school is completely important, and I'd hate to see the world without it. I'm just saying I don't think world intelligence would be so bad without school.
Are you trying to get some sort of 'what came first the chicken or the egg' scenario? Of course teachers learned from schools. And so on and so on. They will continue to do this in the future as well.
Your so called 'original people' made discoveries of their own accord (Darwin, Newton etc) and schools taught it too the public.Exactly! Without trying you proved my point with that last sentence.
pokejungle
August 21st, 2007, 09:45 PM
@Pipluper: So you're saying humans would stay dumb and incompetent without school? How do you think teachers gained the knowledge to teach? It all didn't come to them one day, they learned over time.
"School" has been an evolving concept. Obviously humans did not have schools to begin with, and we're not even sure when they started. Except of course, a long long time ago, because know that even the ancient Greeks had schools and Professors and such.
So no, there was not a book that fell from the sky. But people realized that it was easier to pass down knowledge in a streamlined and thought out way, then for everyone to stumble in the dark on their own. School was an amazing invention.
The standardized schooling today is an even greater asset to us. That means that schools have regulations to follow and EVERYONE must come out with the same BASICs. That way you can communicate with people from a sort of 'base knowledge' and have a very good edge from which to jump off of into the world.
So don't try to be a smartass and base the fact that there was no big book of wisdom in the beginning to mean that we shouldn't have school. And YES, modern teachers do go to school for teaching. So in laymen's terms (like yours) it would be a 'Teaching School'. Obviously this wasn't always available, and I already discussed that.
Sabaku no Gaara
August 21st, 2007, 09:46 PM
I'm speaking now, not original people. I really don't care who discovered that stuff. If we didn't have education now, we wouldn't mantain that knowledge, and only those people would know that stuff. If we had to discover on our own, what we could learn in just few days of school, do you think our society would be as advanced as it it today?
EDIT: Just read Phrase's post and that's pretty much what I'm saying too.
EDIT2: I have to leave now, but I'll be back to further my arguement. XD
Alex_
August 21st, 2007, 09:51 PM
"School" has been an evolving concept. Obviously humans did not have schools to begin with, and we're not even sure when they started. Except of course, a long long time ago, because know that even the ancient Greeks had schools and Professors and such.
So no, there was not a book that fell from the sky. But people realized that it was easier to pass down knowledge in a streamlined and thought out way, then for everyone to stumble in the dark on their own. School was an amazing invention.
The standardized schooling today is an even greater asset to us. That means that schools have regulations to follow and EVERYONE must come out with the same BASICs. That way you can communicate with people from a sort of 'base knowledge' and have a very good edge from which to jump off of into the world.
So don't try to be a smartass and base the fact that there was no big book of wisdom in the beginning to mean that we shouldn't have school. And YES, modern teachers do go to school for teaching. So in laymen's terms (like yours) it would be a 'Teaching School'. Obviously this wasn't always available, and I already discussed that.
...and where did I say school wasn't an asset? You people are getting me all wrong. As I've said twice, I fully support schooling. What I am saying is that we would not be a complete bunch of idiots as Pipluper made it seem in his post saying we might as well be back in dinosaur age, or something.
Tangerine Fox
August 21st, 2007, 09:52 PM
TD - I'm not jumping down your throat and I don't think most people are, either. Just having a lively discussion.
Very well put, Phrase. That was a really nice explanation.
Original ideas were discovered usually by curiousity/accident/building on what people already knew. Then they taught what they learnt to others, who in turn taught others.
As more and more people shared what they knew, schools and educational systems/set-ups were established and further devolped. (And in some ways undeveloped, but I digress.) Schools are still a WIP now. For example, some of the work in my high school Algebra II class wasn't even taught in most colleges when my dad or grandparents went to school.
So, yeah. Things will always keep changing, so even after school, you'll have to keep learning to survive. : D
I'm basically just restating what others have said, so I'll lurk for a while, now.
Alex_
August 21st, 2007, 09:54 PM
Very well put, Phrase. That was a really nice explanation.
Original ideas were discovered usually by curiousity/accident/building on what people already knew. Then they taught what they learnt to others, who in turn taught others.
Exactly what I am saying. All of the things we know now were not just made up with someday, we found these things out which is proving that humans wouldn't be so dumb without school.
Edit:TD - I'm not jumping down your throat and I don't think most people are, either. Just having a lively discussion.
It's fine with me, I'd just rather people not put words into my own mouth.
Naoki
August 21st, 2007, 09:57 PM
I'd love to say "NO! >O" but I can't. The reality is, if there wasn't school, things would change. LOTS of things.
Without school, we'd be as dumb as a rake. I'd be dumber ;o;
pokejungle
August 21st, 2007, 09:59 PM
It's fine with me, I'd just rather people put words into my own mouth.
Well, fine by me. Whatever you want.
I think we all ganged up on the piplups. lulz.
Yusaku
August 21st, 2007, 10:19 PM
If I didn't have school, I wouldn't have met my awesome friends, and be dumb as a pack of nails. So I'm in favor of school. It will carve out our entire future.
Jaimes
August 21st, 2007, 10:28 PM
Exactly! Without trying you proved my point with that last sentence.
Actually no I didn't. I stated the blindling obvious. ¬_¬
I'm not sure what you are implying now, since you contradicted yourself. In your first posts you strongly suggest that schools are unnecessary and education via discovery is the way forward, however now you say they are an important asset. Which they are.
Scientific heroes have all come from a well educated background. Watson and Crick didn't discover DNA by chance if they weren't interested in biology from school and took to university. Jenner wouldn't have discovered vaccinations if he wasn't a scientist. So these 'chance discoveries' are built upon inspirations of an educated background.
And school is a starting block which we have. A good example is the rise of medical advances in Europe in the late 19th Centrury, where there were an increased number of doctors and scientist due to education. As a result life expectancy would double following the next 100 years.
If school was never around, then actually yes, I do feel that the people of society would be 'dumber' since they lose out in key inspirations, vital information, social skills and lessons of life.
Without teaching in schools, taught discoveries that shape the world today, such as evolution, would be lost in uncared about documents, (until someone would be to rediscover it perhaps?)
Alex_
August 21st, 2007, 10:31 PM
Actually no I didn't. I stated the blindling obvious. ¬_¬
I'm not sure what you are implying now, since you contradicted yourself. In your first posts you strongly suggest that schools are unnecessary and education via discovery is the way forward, however now you say they are an important asset. Which they are.
Scientific heroes have all come from a well educated background. Watson and Crick didn't discover DNA by chance if they weren't interested in biology from school and took to university. Jenner wouldn't have discovered vaccinations if he wasn't a scientist. So these 'chance discoveries' are built upon inspirations of an educated background.
And school is a starting block which we have.
If school was never around, then actually yes, I do feel that the people of society would be 'dumber' since they lose out in key inspirations, vital information, social skills and lessons of life.
School taught discoveries that shape the world today, such as evolution, would be lost in uncared about documents, (until someone would be to rediscover it perhaps?)
*sigh*
For the 14124877th time: I never said school was unimportant. For the third or fourth time, I think it is truly important. My point is that we wouldn't be as dumb as rocks if we didn't have it. Quite honestly I don't know why you or anyone else would reply to me when I was replying in the beginning to Pipluper.
~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~
August 21st, 2007, 10:37 PM
its very annoying but we will need the knowlege afterwards when we get out
:t354:TG
AnimeDDR110
August 21st, 2007, 11:57 PM
I don't think 11 year olds need to flirt, or really understand the art of flirting in the first place.
That is, if you really are 11.
ok no one make fun of penginpla6, hes the one who made this thread, ESPECIALLY YOU PHRASE. he makes a point, and no one should say we don't know what flirting should mean at a young age. i do it all the time and i always get the girls.
and if i hear one more thing about immatureness you will be PWNED'!
lulz, maybe you'll understand when you're older.
excuse me, we understand now. we have been understanding. just becuase your a higher grade in school and matureness doesn't mean your everything. don't ever say anything like that again.
Chibi-chan
August 22nd, 2007, 12:00 AM
Yes we need school so we can all become elitists and make sure that no one can create a communist rule and rule us like drones :|
No really, if you didn't go to school, someone would get educated and rule over your poor stupid souls and make everything seem 'fair'. Go read animal farm. An education is needed under every condition.
Jordan
August 22nd, 2007, 12:10 AM
Yes we need school so we can all become elitists and make sure that no one can create a communist rule and rule us like drones :|
Hmm, that would sound disrespectful to some. (Not me though, if that is what you are thinking)
Jordan.
saul
August 22nd, 2007, 01:05 AM
Reading through these - I'm shocked and even slightly appalled that some of you would even think to vote for: School is not needed.
I know, I know, they're your opinions, but I'm still completely surprised by them.
And this is somewhat of a touchy thing for me. My dad grew up poorly, he didn't get the chance to have an education past sixth grade. He's a landscaper now. It's not his fault, he simply couldn't pay for the schooling. My family isn't poor - no way! In fact, we have more than we need, but only through his hard - and I mean hard work. You try leaving four in the morning, every morning of every day, and not coming home until the sun is down.
If he had a complete education, he wouldn't be in that position. And again, it's not his fault - it isn't anyone's. But I see schooling as a blessing.
Homework isn't important? Ha! You guys say half the things you learn at school don't even stay in your head. All the more reason to have homework. It'll keep your mind on it - even if it is hard to keep your mind on it.
School made you emo? I hope that's a joke. And I'm not trying to be critical of you. If you want to be emo, go ahead. But I'm making the point that School did not make you emo. I don't know your situation, so I can't say what did. But it wasn't school. Does your school have posters plastered all over their campus saying, "Be Emo!" I hope not. And if they do, please see your local school board. But you make the decision to be who you are. No one else does. They can influence you, yes, but not make you. You are exposed to every option and choice at some point in this life, and you can decide to turn them down or take them, it is your decision.
Again, not trying to be critical. That's just what I believe, and I was shocked to see some of your guys' responses. Although, I think this thread was supposed to be humorous... I might have just made it serious XD :P
Jordan
August 22nd, 2007, 01:13 AM
And this is somewhat of a touchy thing for me. My dad grew up poorly, he didn't get the chance to have an education past sixth grade. He's a landscaper now. It's not his fault, he simply couldn't pay for the schooling. My family isn't poor - no way! In fact, we have more than we need, but only through his hard - and I mean hard work. You try leaving four in the morning, every morning of every day, and not coming home until the sun is down.
If he had a complete education, he wouldn't be in that position. And again, it's not his fault - it isn't anyone's. But I see schooling as a blessing.
Dang straight man, my dad was a pretty good student in the 60's and 70's, continually placing #1 in score ranking in his class. It was a bright future until the war came along and put his studies to a hiatus. Now he bequeaths to me his knowledge and teaches me that education is important. He just hope that my future turned out to be better than his because of the opportunities of education at the current time.
Jordan.
AnimeDDR110
August 22nd, 2007, 01:16 AM
Reading through these - I'm shocked and even slightly appalled that some of you would even think to vote for: School is not needed.
I know, I know, they're your opinions, but I'm still completely surprised by them.
And this is somewhat of a touchy thing for me. My dad grew up poorly, he didn't get the chance to have an education past sixth grade. He's a landscaper now. It's not his fault, he simply couldn't pay for the schooling. My family isn't poor - no way! In fact, we have more than we need, but only through his hard - and I mean hard work. You try leaving four in the morning, every morning of every day, and not coming home until the sun is down.
If he had a complete education, he wouldn't be in that position. And again, it's not his fault - it isn't anyone's. But I see schooling as a blessing.
Homework isn't important? Ha! You guys say half the things you learn at school don't even stay in your head. All the more reason to have homework. It'll keep your mind on it - even if it is hard to keep your mind on it.
School made you emo? I hope that's a joke. And I'm not trying to be critical of you. If you want to be emo, go ahead. But I'm making the point that School did not make you emo. I don't know your situation, so I can't say what did. But it wasn't school. Does your school have posters plastered all over their campus saying, "Be Emo!" I hope not. And if they do, please see your local school board. But you make the decision to be who you are. No one else does. They can influence you, yes, but not make you. You are exposed to every option and choice at some point in this life, and you can decide to turn them down or take them, it is your decision.
Again, not trying to be critical. That's just what I believe, and I was shocked to see some of your guys' responses. Although, I think this thread was supposed to be humorous... I might have just made it serious XD :P
now i respect your decision, but don't you think if you know everything and your learning things that you aren't goona use later in life, that school is just a waste of time from that point on?
22sa
August 22nd, 2007, 01:31 AM
@_@ Too much to read, I'll pass for now...
I don't have an answer. School, besides being a social area, appeals those whom can read and write well. Those who can deal with long ass textbook material. Which I suck at. As for self-discovery, school doesn't help at all. We don't see or experience much of the working world in it either and can't become more resourceful in reality through school.
So yes I believe school is wasteful, but I'd rather be learning and studying then working some dumb front line labor, even so.
As a place for studying and concentrating, school is off too, but it's still better then my home in that respect. xD;
Ausaudriel
August 22nd, 2007, 01:45 AM
School is absolutely necessary, and as you get older most people start to understand that better. I remember hating it when I was younger and thinking I'd be better off without it, but that really isn't true at all.
Without school, your future as an adult will be a lot, lot harder. Without school, there's a very good chance you'll be that hungry, lonely, wet homeless person sleeping under a bridge at age thirty-five thinking "if I had only stayed in school, things could've turned out differently."
I don't mean to be harsh, but honestly, that's a very real possibility if you don't have an education. There ARE places that will higher you to work even if you don't complete high-school, but they're low-paying with more than likely no benefits, no retirement plan, nothing. You'd be working harder than most for less pay than most for your entire life.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is, really think about this. School is important, and an education is important.
AnimeDDR110
August 22nd, 2007, 01:53 AM
School is absolutely necessary, and as you get older most people start to understand that better. I remember hating it when I was younger and thinking I'd be better off without it, but that really isn't true at all.
Without school, your future as an adult will be a lot, lot harder. Without school, there's a very good chance you'll be that hungry, lonely, wet homeless person sleeping under a bridge at age thirty-five thinking "if I had only stayed in school, things could've turned out differently."
I don't mean to be harsh, but honestly, that's a very real possibility if you don't have an education. There ARE places that will higher you to work even if you don't complete high-school, but they're low-paying with more than likely no benefits, no retirement plan, nothing. You'd be working harder than most for less pay than most for your entire life.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is, really think about this. School is important, and an education is important.
i see where you are going with this, and its opening my eyes now. thanks.
The Real AAA
August 22nd, 2007, 02:01 AM
I don't like school but were going to need it in the future
Kayashi
August 22nd, 2007, 02:01 AM
If you think you're a stud at that age, you'll end up with an STD in just a few short years.
You have no idea what flirting is in any real sense of the word.
i'm not sure u would know cuz know one will even try to do that with u
So...
Zippit. Zappit. Get it? Got it. Done
now shut it.
ppl really, respect other's opinions
Chibi-chan
August 22nd, 2007, 02:02 AM
If you think you're a stud at that age, you'll end up with an STD in just a few short years.
You have no idea what flirting is in any real sense of the word.
He's just a tweleve year old, I'd let it slide D:
When he does become a pawn to someone who is older and more mature than he is, maybe he'll learn to value educations as a lucky privilage and see what happens to those who don't use it :\
No education means no freedom. End story.
Zazie Rainyday
August 22nd, 2007, 02:15 AM
I'll say this. School is crammed full of things you didnt need to know. And it's boring and long and oftentimes it makes you all wierd in the head. @_@
But even with all of that in mind It's something that you inevitably need. That's right. School is needed. Because school teaches you the things you need to know to pursue the job of your dreams. Or just a job you want even. It's a neccessary evil.
Disintegration
August 22nd, 2007, 02:54 AM
Anyone who is smart would tell you that school is needed. Best of all, its free. How could it get any better than that? But I wish it wasn't mandatory. It would make it easier for those who are willing to take up an educational part of their life and get the losers out of the way. Then the world would be filled with successors with me as their dictator, mwahaha. Overall, of course we need school. Though I would favor for an alternative.
Anti
August 22nd, 2007, 03:05 AM
ok, you are really starting to get me mad. i'm probably more mature then you'll ever be, you low-life jock. i've learned all about that, and i'm with this with Penguinpal6. don't you ever say sometihng like that again. don't test my age. YOUR PWNED'.
No, i don't want to let it slide, i want to see what this two year old can do too me. and i'm at that lucky prvilage, that nature.
excuse me? don't call him kiddie, i can't believe how people are treating people our age on here. your not everything you know.
Dude, they're testing your age because you keep posting rude comments about others...I won't take sides here, but this is beginning a flame war. Just stop arguing...sheesh.
School is important because yes, you need education and so does society. Without education our army would be "driving" tanks that were made out of cardboard. I hate school as much as the next guy, but it is needed. It is more important than almost anything about our country. While school can be a little dreadful and filled with HW, it's essential.
Now for the bad thing about school. School can be unnecessary when you are learning how to get stressed out and nothing more, like with HW machine teachers. There are NO studies that indicate HW raises grades, and if we're at the dang building 7 hours a day, we need our break time.
Overall, school is needed. FACT. It is hardly an opinion, but since this is a poll, it is an opinion...
Pocky
August 22nd, 2007, 03:06 AM
I like the learning part, but I hate dealing with the people. Most of them just goof off and act stupid. I only had a few friends, and I looked forward to seeing some teachers^_^ NOT THE STUDENTS!!
Eternal Nightmare
August 22nd, 2007, 03:10 AM
Oh, course school is important, even if
we don't think so, but school is just
a building block of our future careers
an adult life, but some just want to grow
up to be one of those obese couch potatos.
-ChronicNightmare-
King Gengar
August 22nd, 2007, 03:12 AM
Without school we would all die... See if we didnt have school i wouldnt be typing this right now or even visting the website...
AnimeDDR110
August 22nd, 2007, 03:17 AM
well, then they should just shut up and stay out of this. calling us little kids, i like to see what they can do.
Signomi
August 22nd, 2007, 08:28 AM
That's quite enough of the insults from you four, scythemaster, AnimeDDR110, Penguinpal6 and Phrase. You're not getting anywhere with those insolent comments other than a ticket down warningville. Have you all forgotten a rule of the forum? "Everybody is to respect other people on the board."? You four have all been reported doing exactly otherwise.
I don't want another bit of bashing and disrespect from ANYONE in this topic. Members mentioned in this post shall be getting a warning each for disrespect. Let it happen again and you will face dire consequences.
Razer302
August 22nd, 2007, 01:47 PM
School is defiantly important. Without it you wouldn't be able to get good jobs. I don't find school that boring. It just depends on the people at the school. Mine has some good people and some that are annoying.
Capin' Keanan
August 22nd, 2007, 02:17 PM
It depends.
If there where no Jobs in the world and everything was free, then no, there is no need for school.
But there isn't and everything is not free, so yes, it is needed.
Sabaku no Gaara
August 22nd, 2007, 07:00 PM
Awwwwweee. I'm half-asleep, have been up at a sleepover, and haven't slept in 27 hours. I come back about a half a day later, and my arguement with TD is over. :( XD Well, I just want to say something. I do overexagerate. So that thing about dinosaur age was actually just a joke. I do believe we would still make discoveries, just we'd each have to do so individually. I don't think one person has discovered on their own, everything known to man right now, in a life-time. I exagerated a lot I know. I'm just trying to make the most sense of what I know as a 13 year old. I'm only going into 8th grade, so I don't know all this crap about discoveries, so I have no names of people who made amazing discoveries. But let me ask you this, do you think that people would be able to discover on their own, the things we learn in what, 12-18 years of school? We probably would know more in 1st grade than we would on our own. (exagerating but still. It's kinda weird to think that school didn't exist. XD Sorry to tick you off so badly, I was just trying my best as a 13 year old to put up a good argument, so I tried.)
Alex_
August 22nd, 2007, 08:39 PM
Awwwwweee. I'm half-asleep, have been up at a sleepover, and haven't slept in 27 hours. I come back about a half a day later, and my arguement with TD is over. :( XD Well, I just want to say something. I do overexagerate. So that thing about dinosaur age was actually just a joke. I do believe we would still make discoveries, just we'd each have to do so individually. I don't think one person has discovered on their own, everything known to man right now, in a life-time. I exagerated a lot I know. I'm just trying to make the most sense of what I know as a 13 year old. I'm only going into 8th grade, so I don't know all this crap about discoveries, so I have no names of people who made amazing discoveries. But let me ask you this, do you think that people would be able to discover on their own, the things we learn in what, 12-18 years of school? We probably would know more in 1st grade than we would on our own. (exagerating but still. It's kinda weird to think that school didn't exist. XD Sorry to tick you off so badly, I was just trying my best as a 13 year old to put up a good argument, so I tried.)
You consider that an argument? o_O;
Sabaku no Gaara
August 22nd, 2007, 08:43 PM
Hmmmmmm................nevermind.......:( No one understands what I'm saying........I'll go die now. XD JK-ing. Argument. (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/argument) <(hope that link is ok mods....)
Astinus
August 23rd, 2007, 06:48 PM
Anyhow, I'm a member of the "older members for school" thought line. When I was younger, I wanted to avoid school like it was the home of the Plague. I didn't though.
School teaches many fascinating subjects. That's why I kind of laugh at those who say that one should only learn subjects suited toward their job. I want to be a copywriter, so I guess I could have stopped going to school once I learned basic grammar, neh? But I didn't. And right now, I'm going for an English degree, and am taking classes in Art History, Geography, and History. None of those classes are needed for my career, but I still take them. They're fascinating subjects to me. That's another good thing about school: You learn many interesting facts that would make the world more interesting and opens your mind.
So yeah, school is important. Without it, I wouldn't have the hopes that I will be out of my minimum-wage job and doing a job that I would love.
Best of all, its free.
College. It's expensive. And that's just the classes. Toss in books and other supplies as well.
And I don't remember who posted it, but Charlemagne didn't invent school. The Romans and Greeks had schools long before Charlemagne was born. :/
Jack O'Neill
August 23rd, 2007, 07:47 PM
All the people who voted that school is unnecessary need to be rounded up and shot for their anti-intellectualism. That should speak volumes as to where my allegiances lie in this debate.
Disintegration
August 23rd, 2007, 08:22 PM
College. It's expensive. And that's just the classes. Toss in books and other supplies as well.
I wasn't even talking about college. Most schools that are open to the public are free, as in use of textbooks, classroom lectures, food and entrance to that school.
Lightning
August 23rd, 2007, 08:35 PM
now i respect your decision, but don't you think if you know everything and your learning things that you aren't goona use later in life, that school is just a waste of time from that point on?
I don't mean to bring up an old argument, but I didn't want to leave this one here and I mean this post in the most polite way possible:
How do you know that you aren't going to use it later in life? You're still only 12. I don't mean that in any rude sense, but it's true. In the future, you may not have a need for every single thing you're learning right now, but you never know where life will take you. Maybe one day you WILL be using all these things, or maybe not. You can't know yet because you've still got your whole life ahead of you.
Schools have been used in society for a long time now, and governments and school boards work together to decide when something should be learnt and/or built upon. So while a lot of the things you learn seem "useless," they wouldn't teach them for no reason. There is method to their madness, so you've just gotta keep an open mind when it comes to education. Your teachers and schools just want to prepare you for life so that you're ready to take on anything in your future career, no matter what you choose to do. ;)
I wasn't even talking about college. Most schools that are open to the public are free, as in use of textbooks, classroom lectures, food and entrance to that school.
I've never been to a school (public or otherwise) that provided free food. Cafeteria foods were separate and if you couldn't/wouldn't pay, you had to bring a lunch from home. :x
Lash
August 25th, 2007, 05:11 AM
Personally, I think school is a huge part of a person's life. Lately, I have been learning this, though I am only 14.
People might think that I am one to talk, well, those who know that I am suppose to be in 9th grade, but I failed 8th grade so I have to repeat it. In spite of that however, I have to go to an Alternative school that lets one advance at their own level, and I am doing rather well at the school.
Without a proper education like the one I am currently getting at this new school, getting to work on my High School credits, puts a really good word in for High School, and eventually for a good job in the future. There may be those who say that school is pointless, however without it, without getting a proper education, there is absolutely no promise for a good futere, not much anyway, most likely at McDonalds >.>;;
To cut down to the chase, I think school is basically a major requirement for a good futere. You need the education. You can't just get out of it free. School is needed.
AnimeDDR110
August 25th, 2007, 05:23 AM
I don't mean to bring up an old argument, but I didn't want to leave this one here and I mean this post in the most polite way possible:
How do you know that you aren't going to use it later in life? You're still only 12. I don't mean that in any rude sense, but it's true. In the future, you may not have a need for every single thing you're learning right now, but you never know where life will take you. Maybe one day you WILL be using all these things, or maybe not. You can't know yet because you've still got your whole life ahead of you.
Schools have been used in society for a long time now, and governments and school boards work together to decide when something should be learnt and/or built upon. So while a lot of the things you learn seem "useless," they wouldn't teach them for no reason. There is method to their madness, so you've just gotta keep an open mind when it comes to education. Your teachers and schools just want to prepare you for life so that you're ready to take on anything in your future career, no matter what you choose to do. ;)
I've never been to a school (public or otherwise) that provided free food. Cafeteria foods were separate and if you couldn't/wouldn't pay, you had to bring a lunch from home. :x
yes this is not a fight but i'm just saying that i've heard from teachers that about 80% of the stuff you learn in most classes you won't use later in life. thats it.
Hero of Time Link³
August 25th, 2007, 06:34 AM
Well I for one am saying school is needed because if you didn't have it "you would be the hobo living under the bridge"(quoted from my teacher). I am good at school and my school has a homework system probably different to yours,It is: if you don't finish some classwork that is due to finish on that day you take it home.
Utada
August 25th, 2007, 08:31 AM
School is totally needed. To survive in the real world, you got to have a education. Nowadays, you have to have a college degree to get a great paying job. Before it was a high school diploma, not anymore. No one will hire you if you don't have the proper education.
So stay at school. It will be worth it in the long run. And school isn't bad. Of course when I was at school, I didn't like getting up early(especially on a Monday). But that is just life...once you go it isn't so bad. And it is fun to learn great things. And plus you will get to see your friends! ^^ *sigh* I totally miss it.
*needs to go back to college* =p