[Hack of the Month 2008] [BETA 2 OUT!] POKéMON MARBLE - The long life - 4/1/08

[zel 2.0]

Hey, what's the deal of naming the badge? As far as I know, the only moments the badges' names are mentioned are when the Gym Leader gives it to you, and then on some scripts like this guy who tells you about the badges' effects and at the final route where those police-guys check your badges. So, I don't see what's the big deal about renaming them with any hex editor (all we see on the trainer card are just pictures, so... I don't really know where are you going on this topic. Can you guys explain it to me?)

Keep your work, Baro, don't pay that much attention to certain people. As I said a while back on other thread, it'll be impossible that you please the whole world. Just keep doing stuff the way you like it, that's more important "this is just a hobby, not a job"

[Lady Berlitz]

You're right, Zel. The only reason, well, for me that I put up a thread is so I can get support, not trying to please the entire world. The only thing I try to do is please most of the world, right? The rest can just... well, not visit my thread. But seeing as this thread has 11 pages, I think most of the world is pleased. :D

Keep up the good work, Baro.

[Teh Baro]

Nah, Baro (the character in the game, I mean) will design and name your badge, based on something from the story.
No, I won't spoil it.

[muh316]

i expected a new storyline urs is like firred still.
the pokemon coalchu dont look so cool.

[zel 2.0]

Ah, the storyline... Hmmm... Well, considering that Nintendo always do the same (repeating the same storyline about a kid who becomes a trainer, gets badges and defeats the evil team, while finding legendary Pokemon on the road), I don't see what would be the need of changing it on this particular hack, the way Baro will implement his own deviations on the "classic Nintendo plot" is what we are eager to see.

But, anyway, Baro will tell you what he's expecting of his game. I just told you what I was expecting :)

[Yellow Magikoopa]

This looks interesting. The fakemon look pretty good too.

[Dragonsfreak]

I played the beta and it looks quite good already

keep it up like this

[Renyui!]

this hack rocks!
i cant wait to see hm's like sipder web or explosion.
and the fakemon....alright, but who cares, youve put a whole lot more work into the hack than just the fakemon!
i didnt even know you could do that spider web and explosion stuff!

[Apple Inc.]

What can I say? This hack is pretty good through how the gyms are very unique and how you have a train and a Skateboard. The only thing I don't like is how it is basicly the same as firered, Attempt to leave town, professor gets you, 1st main town gives package for professor, forest after 1st main town, cave after 2nd town, etc. It is still a pretty awesome game

[destinedjagold]

I know Teh Baro has some other sneaky things under his sleeves!
We can't expect what'll he add next. :D

And yeah, the Beta was pretty amazing, though I am quite disturbed by some floating back pics of some PKMNs (e.g. the PKMN that was originally was a Pidgey)... But oh well... It still is an awesome hack.

Always keep it up, Teh Baro and aim high~

[~*Pikafan*~]

Yeah, some errors in the game that seem weird, like what happens with Seismic Toss (the enemy sprite doesn't move) and some backsprites, but I bet you that Teh Baro will get them fixed and better, even. By the way, the new stuff put into the game (the merchant) and some more stuff about the GYM are awesome.

[Teh Baro]

i expected a new storyline urs is like firred still.
the pokemon coalchu dont look so cool.
No it's not.
Have you read the thread?
Have you even play the game?

The storyline is not a forced storyline, so you won't be merged into the plot right on the beggining (i.e.: the beta1). There are hints of a complicated story, of people who lie about their past and even their present, people who pursue poisoned dreams, etc.

I don't care if someone posts negative comments, but that's just not true.

Yeah, some errors in the game that seem weird, like what happens with Seismic Toss (the enemy sprite doesn't move) and some backsprites, but I bet you that Teh Baro will get them fixed and better, even. By the way, the new stuff put into the game (the merchant) and some more stuff about the GYM are awesome.
I haven't messed with seismic toss so that must be something that already happens in the original... and yeah I was a bit lazy at backsprates, or you mean you found backsprites in beta 1.1 that are too high? If so please report them. beta is for betatesting.

the second beta will take a lot of time since I can only work during the weekends.

I know Teh Baro has some other sneaky things under his sleeves!
We can't expect what'll he add next. :D

And yeah, the Beta was pretty amazing, though I am quite disturbed by some floating back pics of some PKMNs (e.g. the PKMN that was originally was a Pidgey)... But oh well... It still is an awesome hack.

Always keep it up, Teh Baro and aim high~
Just checked, ornlil works fine.
Check that you have beta 1.1

[~*Pikafan*~]

No, I didn't really check which specific ones, but I'll check later and tell you if there are any. But I really wonder how Seismic Toss is.

[Elainia]

Well...I've been watching this thread for a long time now, and even played the beta, and all I can say is...wow. You've really outdone yourself, with a complex storyline and all that. I'll be sure to keep watching this hack.

[destinedjagold]

That's a lovely thing to say! :)
I'm sure Teh Baro will be more motivated to keep going! ;)

And yes, Teh Baro has put a lot of new stuff in the hack, and in the upcoming Beta 2, there will be more! So stay tuned. :D

Btw, Teh Baro, keep it up as always. ;)

[Teh Baro]

Thanks for the support.

Right now, I'm doing a small town with a pet shop (where you'll be able to buy another starter different from the one you already had). After that, maybe I put a dungeon and then close the beta.
If I do that, the progress you can do if you played beta 1.1 to the end would be:

EGG TRAIN - WISTWOODS & WIST CASTLE - CYAN TOWN & GYM 3 - BACK TO TANGERINE - SECRET TUNNEL - BACK TO COBALTSTATION & GYM 4 - BLUE LANDS & BOMBERMEN HIDEOUT (not a dungeon, it's more like a house with trainers) - SKY LANDS & FOREST PASSAGE (a small route with a small path that will be equivalent to the underground path, with a pair of things inside) - WISTERIA VILLAGE - [DUNGEON (maybe].

That's a lot of words, but a few new places. I think it's not too much because you can clear it in little time. I know you long for beta 2, but HONESTLY, may it be too little progress?

[Xiros]

well, baro the hack looks great, the screens look very interesting and i wanna play a beta 2 soon, but i myself think that the second beta should be much longer, maybe to the 5th gym would be ok.
well that´s my opinion, good luck my friend.

[+Sneasel™]

I think you should extend beta 2. Cause if people finish it
too soon, they are just going to beg for beta 3 more.

[zel 2.0]

I don't know... Hmmm... two gyms per Beta doesn't sound THAT bad. But since you are the one who said that you were not satisfied with the gameplay length, then I guess we must trust you and don't force you to make something you are not satisfied with. So, keep working, and maybe reach the 5th or 6th Gym before making another release.

Don't worry, as I use to say: as long as some information is given from time to time, you'll be safe from lots of people asking for a Beta, I guess...

[Teh Baro]

Okay. Enough for me.
Beta 2 will have at LEAST rainbowpolis, on all its splendor and hugeness.
And 5th gym, SO also another dungeon (which is related to the gym, it's one of those jokes I want people to not know until they play it, because of the surprise effect).
It's a promise

[destinedjagold]

Wheeeeeee, nice! I'll be sitting here waiting then!
Having a 5th GYM in beta 2 sounds fun! Keep it up~

[Virtual Chatot]

Okay. Enough for me.
Beta 2 will have at LEAST rainbowpolis, on all its splendor and hugeness.
And 5th gym, SO also another dungeon (which is related to the gym, it's one of those jokes I want people to not know until they play it, because of the surprise effect).
It's a promise

Are we still going to have the web bridge idea in the game?

[Teh Baro]

Yeah but it will be the last HM so you won't have it in this beta.
In fact, I've been thinking of inserting a spiderman wannabee in the game that says something like "How do I shot web? I have this HM but I can't manage to put it to work... maybe you'll make good use of it", and to put spider web tiles in rainbowpolis to climb to rooftops

[Virtual Chatot]

That is a great idea Baro ^_^

Spiderman Wannabee would be hilarious, like after he gives you the HM, he jumps off a building

[Teh Baro]

That is a great idea Baro ^_^

Spiderman Wannabee would be hilarious, like after he gives you the HM, he jumps off a building
... and breaks a leg or something like that XD
thanks for the idea

[Virtual Chatot]

Glad I could contribute!

xD

[destinedjagold]

XD Hahah... That's very funny, yet very original. :D
I'm gonna be expecting that! xD

Best of luck~

[+Sneasel™]

That would be awesome if that was in it!
And spider web would be cool as an HM (except not many pokemon would be able to learn it...)
Oh wait, these are your pokemon, you could do waht ever you want with them XD
I forgot for a sec...

[Virtual Chatot]

Well, All Bug types would be acceptable

[~*Pikafan*~]

I think Spider Web should be all pokemon that can learn String Shot because it shouldn't be all bug types unless every bug can learn string shot. If he left a pokemon that couldn't, then it would be weird. Do you know what I'm saying?

Darn, I had a good example, but because he's editing all of the pokemon, I can't use it.

Also, I almost fell out of my chair at the Spiderman Wannabee breaking his leg. It's like he jumps off of the building and then when it seems like you can move again, a text box comes up and says "Ow! My leg!" Now that would be hilarious. Good idea Teh Baro and VC.

[Virtual Chatot]

Well, that would limit it to a few Pokemon.

In the essence of originality, it should just be all bug types

[Teh Baro]

Most bug pokemon will be able to learn spider web.
And ninjice, which can learn every move.
Dunno if spider web would fit another pokemon.

[Eeveon]

You know i've been dying to play beta 2.
I hope you release it soon

[Teh Baro]

Well, it'll take a while. Read the previous page and you'll know why,
Anyway thanks for bumping, it's been a while since I last posted here.

Last updates:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/hack2_01-1.png
Forest Passage. There's not much on it, just trees, covolts in the trees and a man. The man will ask you to beat all the covolts. 2 of them are actually copykattes (remember from quartz, those transforming cats). The actual covolts are low levered... but the secret is that they hold items. Thunderstones, a PP MAX... So remember to catch them. The prize for beating them all is a choice band.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/hack2_02-2.png
Wisteria village. (sorry for the player sprite as NPC, I only made the map and added the events)
Just a small village (in fact, all the village is in that screenshot except the pokemon center). It'll have a trade event (although I haven't messed with them yet, so I don't guarantee it'll be accessible in beta2).
That square building with a parnot (parrot pokemon) in the window is a pet shop.
Apart from an important event involving parnots, you will be able to buy the starter that nobody picked in Baro's lab. But it will be a bit expensive.

[zel 2.0]

Well, it looks interesting. And I like that you used the mist on the forest but it seems to work fine :)

I find a bit funny the roofs of the houses, but in the good way, I like them.

Keep taking showers Baro! (an inside joke if you remember one of Baro's older posts XD)

[Kid nino]

Well, it looks interesting. And I like that you used the mist on the forest but it seems to work fine :)

I find a bit funny the roofs of the houses, but in the good way, I like them.

Keep taking showers Baro! (an inside joke if you remember one of Baro's older posts XD)

Yeah, the showers and ideas. :P

Anyways, just wondering what is the pet shop for? Any events concerning it?

[Teh Baro]

Anyways, just wondering what is the pet shop for? Any events concerning it?

Apart from an important event involving parnots, you will be able to buy the starter that nobody picked in Baro's lab. But it will be a bit expensive.
Example: You pick chapebaya, you can buy todad. You pick todad, you can buy coalchu. You pick coalchu, you can buy chapebaya.



Also: lol showers.

[Virtual Chatot]

Baro you the man :D

I love the new screenshots

[Lady Berlitz]

This hack is pretty awesome, Baro! I just played it, but I found it kind of hard since I don't even know these Pokémon! -_-

[Teh Baro]

Just finished the parnot (parrot pokemon) event.
The PARNOT is nicknamed Kayak. It belonged to Dr. Kayuko.

When you talk to it, it asks you for a cookie. If you give it a mole cookie, it'll say a random phrase.
there's a 1% chance of getting a password for something that is needed later on. (if you have the amulet tag, it's a 100% chance, but only once [actually, once you get the password, a flag is set, so your character "remembers" it])
In the remaining 99% of chances, you can get 9 random sentences, some of them spoilers, some of them just jokes, like the one below.

And this is one of the non-spoiler phrases it may say. I was inspired so let's share, for laughs
You know, the cosmic flow of the funky aeromatter doesn't mind if the cosmos karma thinks that the balance of the life and the death is not too much for the stars to handle and chewbaka starts to shave every morning.


Also, after the event ends, the shop owner tells you that you can't buy the pokemon because it's already sold. The same for other 2 pokemon on the shop. I just wanted to use the bufferpokemon command (7D or somehting along that) to use the pokemon's name on the text string. cool.

Now, for the buy-a-starter script.
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EDIT
Also, though about the next routes and such, and the thing will be like this:
There will be long and wide desert with an Arabic-like town in the middle (replacing celadon - but without gym). Then another desert route and in the middle of the desert, rainbowpolis. As I already said, it'll be an ENORMOUS CITY and it will have all the stuff: the casino, the mart... and even a brothel (but don't worry, it'll be called club, and you'll fight the dancers... but literally, don't get it wrong, uh?), a japanese neighborhood ruled by the jakuza, and well, everything you can expect from a big city barely based in Las Vegas (actually, the only vegas thing it's that it's in the middle of the desert, and all the sex and corruption).
And the beta will end there

[Eeveon]

The parnot and covoltz events are cool.
I'm looking forward for beta 2 :D

I'll look why it won't be released yet, K.

BTW, keep upthe awesome work

[Teh Baro]

Finished the buy-a-starter script.
Only tried with todad as starter (buying coalchu) but worked, so the others should too because the scripts only set some vars and then the main script works with these vars. It was cool to discover that some commands (bufferpokemon, givepokemon, cry...) can work with variables, so it was easier to make a general script (for example, coalchu's script sets var 0x4002 to 4 and in the main script, cry 0x4002 0 plays coalchu's cry).

So, the prize of the last starter will be $100.000. It's very expensive but the trick is that you shouldn't be able to buy it yet. I'm still testing (gonna hack my way from the beggining to the pet shop to test todad's and chapebaya) with $100 as the prize, so you're in time to complain. EDIT: Ah when things work! So, as I said, $100.000. But well, you're gonna get an amulet coin, so it won't be too difficult to earn the moneyz.

[destinedjagold]

Sweet! And a hundred thousand bucks? :\ That's cool. :D
Anyways, it's nice to hear for an update. ;)

Luck~

[Virtual Chatot]

Meh, its not that hard to get 100K in Pokemon Games.

[HiroChicken]

I'm really liking your ideas, Baro! It seems that you're always learning new things.

[Teh Baro]

I'm really liking your ideas, Baro! It seems that you're always learning new things.
Sure, I know a lot of stuff and am ingenuous enough to manage to do others, but still gotta learn a lot.

Also, I was bored today so made a progress map - better than the old one. Actually I made it for world map and planning purposes (for example, the next route was going to extend to the left, but when I saw the map I decided it would extend to the south.

Warning: spoiler content.
http://s225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/th_garnaprogress.png
Click to enlarge (http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/garnaprogress.png)
(the maps under the red line are the new ones, next routes and cities will be placed on those violet lines.)

[JZ95]

This hack is looking great!

I've played Pokemon Quartz, and that was great, and i hope that this will be as good as Quartz.

[O' Swine]

yep, cant wait till next beta, baro. its gonna be AWESOME!
i can just feel it!

[zel 2.0]

Hi Baro!

I was thinking about one thing: I wonder if you are gonna try drawing a world map, just like you did in Quartz (and since all the info is available for FR, perhaps you could try it now), I'd love to see how it would look this time, considering you like drawing stuff yourself :)

Also, is the work on all the pokes completed? Or maybe there are still some left? I'm just curious ;)

[Teh Baro]

Hi Baro!

I was thinking about one thing: I wonder if you are gonna try drawing a world map, just like you did in Quartz (and since all the info is available for FR, perhaps you could try it now), I'd love to see how it would look this time, considering you like drawing stuff yourself :)

Also, is the work on all the pokes completed? Or maybe there are still some left? I'm just curious ;)
I'll try to draw it. When garna is done (that'll be beta 3), I'll start making sketches of how will the region be, based on how does the map I posted before look.

And, like 8~9 pokemon left. Not much planned, Since I'm making a desert, I think I'll make a camel/dromedary pokémon, but dunno of which type. The problem now is that I have to count the amount of pokemon of each type so the thing is more balanced. All the pokemon left are ordinary pokémon excep one, mewtwo's slot, which will be obviously a legendary.


EDIT: 300 GET!

[zel 2.0]

Maybe a tiger or a black panther for a legendary? (I know there's a lot of animals Nintendo leave out for making their pokes), there are a lot of ferocious animals unused by them, and that would fit perfect for legendaries.
What about some dino-like-thing? XD

But, in any case, I guess there's still some time to think about the legendaries.

[Virtual Chatot]

Well lets see, there is a...

Peacock
Tiger
Elephant
Rhino
Crow
Flamingo

I can come up with more

[DarthSenorQueso]

Well lets hope we see a new beta!

[Teh Baro]

You will, but it will take its time.

Last week I hadn't worked on it and in two weeks my exams start, so you can expect how it will go, although I'll keep planning things.

Right now I'm completing the pokemon list, next thing is make next town's tileset so I can move on to next route.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/zappel.png
That's the last pokemon I made, zappel. Now is where you go WTF A CAMEL WITH A HEART!? and the answer is... actually that's just the shiny pallete. The normal pallete has plain yellow fur.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/zappel-1.png
Same sprite, bit different pallete.

And now is where you go WTF THE SHINY HAS A HEART ON IT WHY THAT?
-because I want to implement a shiny pokemon event. That's why. In the desert you'll find someone who's chasing a zappel with a heart on its fur, and finally, guess who'll catch it. ^_^
This will let me make a wide desert and make it a bit labyrinth-ish.

[+Sneasel™]

Lol, looks cool (camel with a heart)
That actually is a good idea though, makes a good event happen.
Best of luck!

[Retribution]

Those pokemon look cool. Especially the fact that the pokemon (as a shiny) has a heart on it. It certainly makes a change as its just a colour change. Good hack plus the evnt souds cool. Good luck.

[Dragoon]

um Baro? the yellow and blue colours are the same on the normal and shiny forms
no matter how hard i look at it there's no palete change

[Retribution]

Yeah same here.
Has it changed?
If it has'nt then I'd think it'd be cool if it had both a heart on it and a colour change.

[+Sneasel™]

I don't think they changed, i like it better with the heart, if he changed the color, it would lose the point of the heart.

[Retribution]

I guess.
If it had different colour as well, it proberly would'nt seem as original.
Then it would roberly seem like a normal shiny pokemon.

[zel 2.0]

A camel with a face that looks more like an hippo... Interesting... :P
And, in my opinion, it looks a bit too small for a camel... Meh, whatever...

I guess the important thing behind zappel (guess the name gives me an idea on the type XD), is the whole shiny hearted event behind it. About that, it's a very original idea (to me, the palettes are quite the same, as everyone else have said), and I want to see the desert (maybe there could be some sandholes which could act as warps between the different areas in the desert? That, to add some confusion, obviously...)

[Virtual Chatot]

A camel with a face that looks more like an hippo... Interesting... :P
And, in my opinion, it looks a bit too small for a camel... Meh, whatever...

I guess the important thing behind zappel (guess the name gives me an idea on the type XD), is the whole shiny hearted event behind it. About that, it's a very original idea (to me, the palettes are quite the same, as everyone else have said), and I want to see the desert (maybe there could be some sandholes which could act as warps between the different areas in the desert? That, to add some confusion, obviously...)

That's Brilliant Zel xD
It would be even better if you could only detect them using a Pokemon's Special Ability.

[Teh Baro]

To make it clear, the shiny sprite and the normal sprite MUST be the same. The palette change is on the red. In the normal sprite, there are two color index with yellow and other two with light yellow index. In the shiny sprite, the palette has only one yellow and light yellow, and has red and light red

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/zappeltrick.png
Above, normal pallete. Below, shiny pallete. The player experiences a "different picture". Actually the different pic is made through this trick. The rest of the colors are the same, sure, but that's not unintended.


Also, yeah, it's electric type. It will evolve, and it's evolution will have two humps... and the shiny, two hearts.

[Binary]

LOOK A CAMEL WITH A HEART!
Anyways, I think the sprite actually looks good, and the event sounds better. Can't wait for the pics of the event or maybe a video. The evo will have two hearts and humps? That sounds ineresting, can't wait to see it xD

~C3LEBI

[+Sneasel™]

Hey, uh Teh Baro?
i sent you a pm, but you never responded.
did you check it?
if so, send me a pm, K.
~SPF13

Maybe hes responding now, or is busy.

Yeah, that evolution with 2 hearts is cool because it shows the creativity you've put into this. Shiny fakemon have hearts? Thats a great idea, you have great ideas Baro!

Are you still using the train track script (where you look both ways and run accross)?

I thought that was awesome.

[Teh Baro]

Maybe hes responding now, or is busy.

Yeah, that evolution with 2 hearts is cool because it shows the creativity you've put into this. Shiny fakemon have hearts? Thats a great idea, you have great ideas Baro!

Are you still using the train track script (where you look both ways and run accross)?

I thought that was awesome.
Sure, although now the running animation was replaced with walking animation (but same speed) due to problems while riding the skate.

Also, here's dromstorm, zappel's evo, because it's nice to post new stuff (even if it's not relevant) and because I liked the result. This is a shiny dromstorm.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/dromstorm.png

Now, I'll make next route and town's tileset, so I can actually draw the map.

[Renyui!]

woot! im a baro fan! i love all these ideas, baro, they're AWESOME!

[Retribution]

That pokemon looks cool.
I thought the 2 hearts was a good idea and I like the results.
Good luck Baro.

[Artificial-Insanity]

HAHA! I LOVE this game! and I didn't even leave my room yet! o.O

EDIT: just left my house. I barly did ANYTHING and I already LOVE this game! Best hack I ever played! :p

EDIT LATER: OMG, the proffesor has a PERSONALITY! THUMBS UP!

/yet another edit: Okay between my starter, my rivl's starter and the wild Armorito I'm battling, I haven't seen one male Pokemon o.O

[Teh Baro]

EDIT LATER: OMG, the proffesor has a PERSONALITY! THUMBS UP!
How couldn't the professor have a personality, it's ME!

Also, here's the tileset - in progress - of the next route and city. Still have to make a tower for dungeon, more bazar stuff, etc (and quicksands, but that'll have animation so in the tileset it'll be just marked with an X)

Ooops, forgot the pic, my bad, wait a minute.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/arabictowntile.png
Now.

Credit to whatever this is from for inspiration for the houses. Looks like an AoE-like game. (http://www.kostaatanasov.com/pictures/KOH/Koh_Arabic_Houses.jpg)

Because, y'know, I like to report progress in each post.

[Lupe]

wow teh baro your tiles and ideas are so amazing!!!

[SonicBlazePlatinum]

I really like Zappel and Dromstom's sprites.They are awsesome.The next dungeon will look great possibly.

[+Sneasel™]

lol, the two hearts make it look cool!
I like those two pokemon (gotta remember to catch it!)

Best of luck Teh Baro, quartz never let me down, and i doubt this one will!

[Retribution]

Those tiles look cool as well as dromstorm and zappel. Those tiles look awesome and cant wait to play the next beta. I know it'll be awesome.

As aways, keep up the good work Baro.

[Teh Baro]

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/hack2_01-2.png
Finally decided to sprite the bombermen's overworld.

Mapped the next route and did Tuareg's and shiny zappel's overworld, Though a bit about how the event is gonna be (there will be a new characte: shirley, pokemaniac who loves rare pokemon. She's looking for the shiny zappel because of its rareness. Later on, she'll give you hints to catch other rare non-legendary pokémon, like, pokemon that you'll have to do a lot of stuff to catch it).
I won't do the hard stuff (shiny hack) until exams are over.
For obvious reasons.

[lanroxas]

Good Overworlds... I'm hoping for more news on that Champion who wants to catch all the 4 legends... what was her name? I think you'll have to beat Shirley to get the Zappel am I wrong? Good Hack Baro, continue that work

[Teh Baro]

Good Overworlds... I'm hoping for more news on that Champion who wants to catch all the 4 legends... what was her name? I think you'll have to beat Shirley to get the Zappel am I wrong? Good Hack Baro, continue that work
Yes, you'll have to beat her. After all, she's after the pokemon too.
About laetitia, she won't appear until you beat the league, when you're going to catch those pokemon too.

[SonicBlazePlatinum]

Yes the overworlds are very good Baro.Also this champion is Shirley isn't it.
Baro this is the best hack I've ever played.This is the order of the top hacks I like.
5.Pokemon Naranja by Serg!o
4.Pokemon Ruby Destiny by destinedjagold
3.Pokemon Shiny Gold by zel
2.Pokemon Prism by coolboyman
1.Pokemon Marble by you Baro.
Train is an awesome way of transportation and is better than
the overused boat.

[Teh Baro]

Yes the overworlds are very good Baro.Also this champion is Shirley isn't it.
Baro this is the best hack I've ever played.This is the order of the top hacks I like.
5.Pokemon Naranja by Serg!o
4.Pokemon Ruby Destiny by destinedjagold
3.Pokemon Shiny Gold by zel
2.Pokemon Prism by coolboyman
1.Pokemon Marble by you Baro.
Train is an awesome way of transportation and is better than
the overused boat.
First, thanks for liking the stuff ^_^

about shirley as champion...
Not. I've decided the champion won't be the rival, but it won't be shirley either, and haven't decided who will it be.
Shirley is just a secondary character that appears every time a rare pokemon is near. For example, the shiny zappel. Later on, she'll tell you about a very rare pokemon, chinchin (if someone played cavestory, think about chinfish and how many there are), and in the safari, about sensten (the one from the magic gim video, this time you'll have to do a lot of stuff to even have a chance to catch it, as a sidequest), etc.


currently uploading a new video...
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hmmm it's taking time...
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Done.
Waiting video to be processed...
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it sure it's taking time. Gonna check my pizza in the oven.
Whoever had the idea of mixing tuna and bacon deserves a prize.
ah, it's up already.
Done and gone.
It's not much, just that I've edited the bag picture, but it's better to see it in movement. Instead of bag pictures, it's the character pictures, chibi-stype. In the item pocket, you see it taking care of an ornlil. In the key items, you see it in a cool pose, and in the ball pocket, throwing a pokeball.
Go to the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E4aAh_m1dY)

Also, I never promised not to break my promise ;) Finally I've decided that 5th gym won't be in beta 2, because I feel like releasing it soon (I hope before easter), and rainbowpolis, as I already told you, will be ENORMOUS. It doesn't only imply a lot of houses and making a big map, but also a big big big big tileset, so... well, to put it in short:

MAPS LEFT:
White desert [events]
Whiteclay town
??? desert
and nothing else in beta 2

Damn, I should have been studying calculus instead of doing this. I can't do differential equations yet.

[Virtual Chatot]

Hmm...So Shirley is like Marble's version of Eucine?

[Teh Baro]

Hmm...So Shirley is like Marble's version of Eucine?
something like that, but not obsesed with a legendary

[Went]

Oh, my!
The pictures are really wonderful! The pokéball throwing is really cool. Very good work.
Tuna and bacon mmm

[zel 2.0]

Harharharhar! >o<

That was way too funny... Making chibi-styled-heroes for the bags... Amusing!

Well, as always, I cannot imagine what you'll come up with next time. Good luck with that huge tileset, hope you can put cars and all that stuff you wanted to insert!

[Har D Har]

Yays! Good to see a new beta coming soon! Sorry if "I make an error, I am typing with my new Powert Flove, it's so cool.

[Virtual Chatot]

Harharharhar! >o<

That was way too funny... Making chibi-styled-heroes for the bags... Amusing!

Well, as always, I cannot imagine what you'll come up with next time. Good luck with that huge tileset, hope you can put cars and all that stuff you wanted to insert!

Cars?! xD
That's going to be fun

[adamb241]

I like what you did with the item menus. Great job.

[Har D Har]

I just relised, the Glass Army reminds me of the Red Ribbon Army!

[Teh Baro]

I just relised, the Glass Army reminds me of the Red Ribbon Army!
Whatever the Red Ribbon army is, Glass army is not inspired on it.

Well, just arrived from La Coruña, exams are over (btw I'm 78% sure I failed calculus but well), and gotta get back to work, and finally going to work during the weeks while I'm out.

:D

I'll tell you more when I'm done doing more stuff, next thing may be the shiny.

[destinedjagold]

Nice to hear from you, Teh Baro! :D

yay! there should be updates soon, and I'll be sitting here and wait! :P

Best wishes. ;)
*And I hope you don't fail on Calculus*

[GodSaurus]

Whatever the Red Ribbon army is, Glass army is not inspired on it.

Haven't you watched Dragon Ball Z?

[Teh Baro]

Haven't you watched Dragon Ball Z?
Was that from the first season? (when son gokuh was a kid) because I barely remember that one. I'm more of when gokuh's an adult.

Well, I have already inserted the shiny hack (and thanks to me, Mastermind X knew there was an error and fixed it :D. Not like I detected the error (i don't know assembly) but well...) and the shiny battle works fiiine.

Just to tell more about the event, when you get to the place (a bit hard to find, the desert has a lot of quicksands and one only quicksand tile leads you to the oasis where the zappel is, the others lead you to the beggining of the desert, and they're not that easy to spot), you find shirley, who just arrived, and asks you if you want to battle, the winner faces the zappel. If you say yes, you battle her and when you win you can fight the zappel. If you say no, she catches the pokemon and you won't see it again.


On other topics, I've finally implemented explosion rocks. Actually it's just rock smash's script without the wild pokemon thing and with the convenient changes. Also, while doing this I realized that I have no way of accessing the rock smash wild pokemon sets, so next time I'm in shower/bed, I've gotta think about it...

Next task is trainers in the desert, whiteclay town, the entrance to the Mirage tower (next dungeon, I used part of the animations for a mirage door, first time you get to it it's a wall, but in the town you'll get something like "eye of truth" or something along those lines, and when you have it the tile will change to a flashing door so you can enter. it'll be the equivalent to the lavender tower because it'll have all the ghost stuff and such. I don't know where to put the scope silph equivalent yet, so unless I decide to put it in whiteclay town, I'll only do the first floor of the mirage tower. But dunno yet. When that and all whiteclay town is done, only one more route and B-B-B-B-B-BETA!! (after editing a lot of stuff like the pokemon sprites left, pokemon data left, pokemon data that I want to improve, pokedex info and -maybe- pokedex data like size and stuff, depending on the mood I am on)

Looks like a good news post so I'll put it in the title and click in the smiling green face icon
*does*

[GodSaurus]

Was that from the first season? (when son gokuh was a kid)


Yes. It was leadered by General Blue, and one of the assasins they hired was Tao Pai Pai.
These guys built the androids that would later appear in DBZ.

To stay on topic, I want to say that this hack is one of the bests that I have seen.
But you already know that.

When I played Quartz, I was disappointed, because the Ruby maps and story had barely changed. I also noted that some sprites were sloppily made and all the spelling and grammar mistakes.

When I saw Marble, I got very excited, but I feared that it would have the same flaws that its predecessor. I was wrong.

In fact, this hack could be the most fun and ground-breaking hack that I have played.
It stands with other great hacks like Naranja, Shinygold and Prism.

By the way, I know that you can handle alone, but if you need some Pokémon ideas, contact me, I have quite a few.

[Virtual Chatot]

Was that from the first season? (when son gokuh was a kid) because I barely remember that one. I'm more of when gokuh's an adult.

Well, I have already inserted the shiny hack (and thanks to me, Mastermind X knew there was an error and fixed it :D. Not like I detected the error (i don't know assembly) but well...) and the shiny battle works fiiine.

Just to tell more about the event, when you get to the place (a bit hard to find, the desert has a lot of quicksands and one only quicksand tile leads you to the oasis where the zappel is, the others lead you to the beggining of the desert, and they're not that easy to spot), you find shirley, who just arrived, and asks you if you want to battle, the winner faces the zappel. If you say yes, you battle her and when you win you can fight the zappel. If you say no, she catches the pokemon and you won't see it again.


On other topics, I've finally implemented explosion rocks. Actually it's just rock smash's script without the wild pokemon thing and with the convenient changes. Also, while doing this I realized that I have no way of accessing the rock smash wild pokemon sets, so next time I'm in shower/bed, I've gotta think about it...

Next task is trainers in the desert, whiteclay town, the entrance to the Mirage tower (next dungeon, I used part of the animations for a mirage door, first time you get to it it's a wall, but in the town you'll get something like "eye of truth" or something along those lines, and when you have it the tile will change to a flashing door so you can enter. it'll be the equivalent to the lavender tower because it'll have all the ghost stuff and such. I don't know where to put the scope silph equivalent yet, so unless I decide to put it in whiteclay town, I'll only do the first floor of the mirage tower. But dunno yet. When that and all whiteclay town is done, only one more route and B-B-B-B-B-BETA!! (after editing a lot of stuff like the pokemon sprites left, pokemon data left, pokemon data that I want to improve, pokedex info and -maybe- pokedex data like size and stuff, depending on the mood I am on)

Looks like a good news post so I'll put it in the title and click in the smiling green face icon
*does*

Are you still planning on putting in the Spiderman Watanabe idea?

[Teh Baro]

Are you still planning on putting in the Spiderman Watanabe idea?
yes. rainbowpolis will be big and I have to fill the streets with a lot of things.
There will also be burglars, but don't worry, they won't steal your stuff.

By the way, I know that you can handle alone, but if you need some Pokémon ideas, contact me, I have quite a few
Well, I don't "need" them, but I'm always open for suggestions

[Virtual Chatot]

yes. rainbowpolis will be big and I have to fill the streets with a lot of things.
There will also be burglars, but don't worry, they won't steal your stuff.

Good, because that is going to be so funny

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Maybe you could have an event where a Burglar steals something of value from you ( Key Item ) and you have to search around to try and find him. ( Different place every time you start the game? )

[Fendaril]

Teh baro I like the censored *clean* readme you attached to the ips it lets me know you havent changed ;).

[Glacier]

this is simply one of the best hacks ever. It may even surprass quartz in greatness keep up the great work!

[SonicBlazePlatinum]

Was that from the first season? (when son gokuh was a kid) because I barely remember that one. I'm more of when gokuh's an adult.

Well, I have already inserted the shiny hack (and thanks to me, Mastermind X knew there was an error and fixed it :D. Not like I detected the error (i don't know assembly) but well...) and the shiny battle works fiiine.

Just to tell more about the event, when you get to the place (a bit hard to find, the desert has a lot of quicksands and one only quicksand tile leads you to the oasis where the zappel is, the others lead you to the beggining of the desert, and they're not that easy to spot), you find shirley, who just arrived, and asks you if you want to battle, the winner faces the zappel. If you say yes, you battle her and when you win you can fight the zappel. If you say no, she catches the pokemon and you won't see it again.


On other topics, I've finally implemented explosion rocks. Actually it's just rock smash's script without the wild pokemon thing and with the convenient changes. Also, while doing this I realized that I have no way of accessing the rock smash wild pokemon sets, so next time I'm in shower/bed, I've gotta think about it...

Next task is trainers in the desert, whiteclay town, the entrance to the Mirage tower (next dungeon, I used part of the animations for a mirage door, first time you get to it it's a wall, but in the town you'll get something like "eye of truth" or something along those lines, and when you have it the tile will change to a flashing door so you can enter. it'll be the equivalent to the lavender tower because it'll have all the ghost stuff and such. I don't know where to put the scope silph equivalent yet, so unless I decide to put it in whiteclay town, I'll only do the first floor of the mirage tower. But dunno yet. When that and all whiteclay town is done, only one more route and B-B-B-B-B-BETA!! (after editing a lot of stuff like the pokemon sprites left, pokemon data left, pokemon data that I want to improve, pokedex info and -maybe- pokedex data like size and stuff, depending on the mood I am on)

Looks like a good news post so I'll put it in the title and click in the smiling green face icon
*does*

Wow those events look quite awesome Baro especially the Zappel event,and shirley's event.Also what Pokemon does Zappel replace anyways?
Oh I wanted to tell you that Pokemon Quartz was the first pokemon hack I've ever played and it was fun,I like the Molemen trainer class.Arquidea is my favorite fakemon,will it be in this hack Baro?

Well that's all,see you tommorow.

[Coolboyman]

damn, this hack is getting pretty crazy! With all your cool ideas and what not, keep it up.

[Teh Baro]

Wow those events look quite awesome Baro especially the Zappel event,and shirley's event.Also what Pokemon does Zappel replace anyways?
Oh I wanted to tell you that Pokemon Quartz was the first pokemon hack I've ever played and it was fun,I like the Molemen trainer class.Arquidea is my favorite fakemon,will it be in this hack Baro?

Well that's all,see you tommorow.
Zappel replaces rhyhorn.

I don't think I'll put arquidea in the hack, but I still haven't planned much for the national pokedex (it sure won't be on the Garna pokedex), I'm still thinking of stuff for legendaries and what will I do with the unowns (I'm thinking of some pokemon with small variations, like spinda).

By the way, only 5 pokemon left in the garna pokedex, and now I'm gonna do some more.

[Legend12]

It looks pretty cool. Keep up the good work. Can't wait till the finished version.

[Teh Baro]

Just passing by updating since my last post, they're 4 only 3 left pokemon now

But one of the two I made since then was fast because it's a sponge, and they're the simplest animals in the world. wikipedia says so.
So cute I want to post it
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/ponge.png
Ponge

[Eeveon]

so you only have to make the pokemon and the route and your done?
if so, don't rush yourself, we can wait a little longer. GL!

[+Sneasel™]

Just passing by updating since my last post, they're 4 only 3 left pokemon now

But one of the two I made since then was fast because it's a sponge, and they're the simplest animals in the world. wikipedia says so.
So cute I want to post it
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/ponge.png
Ponge

Awww, Ponge is so cute! I'm definetly catching one in the beta lol!

I can't wait, I love all your fakemon! They are creative, just like Zappel!
Best of luck!!!

[SonicBlazePlatinum]

Pong looks cute,and I'm guessing it's part water type then?Also 3/150 Pokemon left,Wow!

EDIT:I meant to say Ponge,sorry.

[Guin]

It's awesome so far. Can't wait for the final.

[mschledy]

haha, i love the little message at the end of the beta =) looks really good too

[Teh Baro]

Pong looks cute,and I'm guessing it's part water type then?Also 3/150 Pokemon left,Wow!

EDIT:I meant to say Ponge,sorry.
If you just wrote ponge where you said pong, I wouldn't ever notice :p

Ponge is water/water, no secondary type.

Awww, Ponge is so cute! I'm definetly catching one in the beta lol!
You can't even get access to the sea yet, so there's no ponge for you yet :(

so you only have to make the pokemon and the route and your done?
if so, don't rush yourself, we can wait a little longer. GL!
A city, a route, part of a dungeon (or the entire dungeon), do some stuff with last tileset (fix some things, and add a big fat Las Vegas-like signpost for the next city.
Then 2 of the 3 pokemon left (I don't know what to do with that legendary yet), and data of all those pokémon.

By the way, this week I've wrote all the pokedex info (text, not size comparison and weight/height) and set attacks to every pokemon before exxeggute. I've corrected some of the attack lists that were already in beta 1. Most pokemon will learn their last attack around level 50, in most cases 47 to be more accurate. I did this because attacks are too spaced and for example I have a bultoad (blastoise) level forty-somewhat with bite, water gun and some more lame ass attacks. And for example, he no longer learns bite, HE'S A FRIGGIN TOAD, TOAD HAVE NO TEETH! Also though stuff about their evolutions when editing attacks: pokemon that can evolve with stones may learn powerful attacks at a young age, but then they don't learn many attacks; also, pokemon that have evolved by level learn most attacks AFTER evolution level, although they have some more in case a trainer has them.

So, regarding pokemon data, I still have to do last 50 pokemon attack list (maybe I don't do legendaries until I know in which level they will be catched), fix some evolutions, size comparison and measures data in pokedex, check some values like items hold and more stuff I'm forgetting, like (maybe not in this beta) placement of pokemon in battle (some are too low or high, apart of being covered by your pokemon's status, it causes problems with some attacks, you'll know if you catch a ninjice in this beta and keep using quick learn [=sketch])

I won't do icons in this beta. And a few are buggy, although that won't even represent a problem for the player because they're not pokemon you can catch yet.

Offtopicly, it's official: I failed calculus. But I got a 7.57 in discrete maths and a 7 in programming, out of 10 :3

[+Sneasel™]

If you just wrote ponge where you said pong, I wouldn't ever notice :p

Ponge is water/water, no secondary type.


You can't even get access to the sea yet, so there's no ponge for you yet :(


A city, a route, part of a dungeon (or the entire dungeon), do some stuff with last tileset (fix some things, and add a big fat Las Vegas-like signpost for the next city.
Then 2 of the 3 pokemon left (I don't know what to do with that legendary yet), and data of all those pokémon.

By the way, this week I've wrote all the pokedex info (text, not size comparison and weight/height) and set attacks to every pokemon before exxeggute. I've corrected some of the attack lists that were already in beta 1. Most pokemon will learn their last attack around level 50, in most cases 47 to be more accurate. I did this because attacks are too spaced and for example I have a bultoad (blastoise) level forty-somewhat with bite, water gun and some more lame ass attacks. And for example, he no longer learns bite, HE'S A FRIGGIN TOAD, TOAD HAVE NO TEETH! Also though stuff about their evolutions when editing attacks: pokemon that can evolve with stones may learn powerful attacks at a young age, but then they don't learn many attacks; also, pokemon that have evolved by level learn most attacks AFTER evolution level, although they have some more in case a trainer has them.

So, regarding pokemon data, I still have to do last 50 pokemon attack list (maybe I don't do legendaries until I know in which level they will be catched), fix some evolutions, size comparison and measures data in pokedex, check some values like items hold and more stuff I'm forgetting, like (maybe not in this beta) placement of pokemon in battle (some are too low or high, apart of being covered by your pokemon's status, it causes problems with some attacks, you'll know if you catch a ninjice in this beta and keep using quick learn [=sketch])

I won't do icons in this beta. And a few are buggy, although that won't even represent a problem for the player because they're not pokemon you can catch yet.

Offtopicly, it's official: I failed calculus. But I got a 7.57 in discrete maths and a 7 in programming, out of 10 :3

That's great Baro! (well, not the calculus thing, but the game, sorry by the way). I can't wait any longer! I can't wait to play it!

Will ninjice learn sketch every level, or like smeargle, like every 10 levels?

[Teh Baro]

That's great Baro! (well, not the calculus thing, but the game, sorry by the way). I can't wait any longer! I can't wait to play it!

Will ninjice learn sketch every level, or like smeargle, like every 10 levels?
Every level, from 1 to 100, unless it already knows it (because you can't learn an attack twice).
Also it'll have 3 PP because experience says it used to fail (ninjice is very fast. Also, this makes a less random result than sketch, since once it attacked you, it's now your turn, so you can decide if you want to copy that attack or not).


Edit: I've been working on that bif fat sign I mentioned before. It's done
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/rainbowpolissign-1.png
If there's anybody from Nevada, he'll be proud of seeing this (or maybe not)

Edit2: reuploaded pic, forgot the fabulous. But I wrote it so fast you haven't noticed

[cristaras]

it is very good.Where can i find HMCUT?? pls tellme

[Teh Baro]

You find cut in beta 2. duhhhh

[Eeveon]

WOW, that's gonna take a while(obviously), LOL!
Well, I can't wait to see the next 'new' Pokemon.
And the ZAPPEL event is in B2, right?
Anyway, GL.

[Teh Baro]

WOW, that's gonna take a while(obviously), LOL!
Well, I can't wait to see the next 'new' Pokemon.
And the ZAPPEL event is in B2, right?
Anyway, GL.
Yes all the stuff I'm talking about up to date will be in beta 2 unless specified. This makes everything except everything related to rainbowpolis (except the sign, which will actually be at the very end of the beta).

[Virtual Chatot]

Every level, from 1 to 100, unless it already knows it (because you can't learn an attack twice).
Also it'll have 3 PP because experience says it used to fail (ninjice is very fast. Also, this makes a less random result than sketch, since once it attacked you, it's now your turn, so you can decide if you want to copy that attack or not).


Edit: I've been working on that bif fat sign I mentioned before. It's done
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/rainbowpolissign-1.png
If there's anybody from Nevada, he'll be proud of seeing this (or maybe not)

Edit2: reuploaded pic, forgot the fabulous. But I wrote it so fast you haven't noticed

Amazing Baro xD
I can't wait to see it in action.

It would be cool if you could make the letter flash on and off.

[Teh Baro]

Amazing Baro xD
I can't wait to see it in action.

It would be cool if you could make the letter flash on and off.
I don't want to mess with animations YET

but for beta 2 I'm planning on looking some animation data and see if there's something that makes sense for me, something on the like of "time of frame - pointer of frame" or stuff like that. After all, rainbowpolis will have a lot of casinos and such, the type of things that need some flashing lights.

[Virtual Chatot]

I don't want to mess with animations YET

but for beta 2 I'm planning on looking some animation data and see if there's something that makes sense for me, something on the like of "time of frame - pointer of frame" or stuff like that. After all, rainbowpolis will have a lot of casinos and such, the type of things that need some flashing lights.

2 Quick questions, are you going to be able to get money in exchange for the coins, and are you going to be able to exchange for Pokemon. If you haven't thought of it yet, just ignore this post.

[Teh Baro]

2 Quick questions, are you going to be able to get money in exchange for the coins, and are you going to be able to exchange for Pokemon. If you haven't thought of it yet, just ignore this post.

Nah, casinos will be for the usual thing. Coins for prizes, including some pokemon

[Retribution]

Casino's, flashy stuff, signey (lol), and other cool stuff:shocked:
This is going to be awesome!
So the flashy stuff and rainbowpolis wont be in b2. Or will they?
Either way this hack is looking good. I played b1 ages ago and the new stuff (skateboard etc) is nice. However, like quartz there is still some old scripts laying there e.g: old man wont let you pass, fossil guy, and the second gym is (still :() water. But apart from that this hacks looking good especially with the new tilesets and Ponge. i want one lol. They are sooo adorable. Apart from that i cant wait till b2.
Kepp up the good work and....
This hack is looking super awesome

[Teh Baro]

Casino's, flashy stuff, signey (lol), and other cool stuff:shocked:
This is going to be awesome!
So the flashy stuff and rainbowpolis wont be in b2. Or will they?
Either way this hack is looking good. I played b1 ages ago and the new stuff (skateboard etc) is nice. However, like quartz there is still some old scripts laying there e.g: old man wont let you pass, fossil guy, and the second gym is (still :() water. But apart from that this hacks looking good especially with the new tilesets and Ponge. i want one lol. They are sooo adorable. Apart from that i cant wait till b2.
Kepp up the good work and....
This hack is looking super awesome

Well, I just said I'll check them out, not that I'd get any results for the animations, but it'll be a cool thing if I get it.

And about the old scripts, I leave them because I can, not because I can't replace them, so I personally don't care about it. Remaking hundreds of scripts would be a time loss. Instead, I just script when I need it. That's how lazy I am.

Right now I'm making ponge's evolution, pongstar. It's a cluster of 4 ponges forming a 4 point star. Then I'll make the pokemon in lapra's slot, and that'll be all by now, because mewtwo's slot will probably be done in a far future.

EDIT
Also, on more exciting live updates, I've just done Ayayaye, an extinct POKéMON, and last (except for the legendary which blah blah blah I think I said it too many times already) of the set, so only one for 151, let's consider all of them for all your gameplay until Agracekan's prison.

Also remade mimikat's front sprite which was a bit too ugly for such a cute pokemon. I'm going to do this for next generation too, for some old quartz pokemon. For example, I'm consideering on redoing Babos and Osoe -horror!- and put them in some jotho slots.

EDIT 2
Didn't know what to do next so felt like uploading latest work
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/Mimikat.gifhttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/pongstar.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/Ayayaye.png
Ayayaye is based in the Giant Aye-aye, an animal extinct not so long ago

[Retribution]

Cool, more awesome sprites. The new mimikat front sprite looks good. Along with ponges evolution and Ayayaye. Keep up the great work :)

[adamb241]

Cool sprites, they look awesome.

[zel 2.0]

Hi Baro, good to see you keep working on improving your old Quartz sprites. I really dont understand what's that multi-eyed thing, so I prefer that black mouse to its right. I think that one is pretty cute ^^ (is it a dark typer?)

Nice sign, even if it doesn't flash, at least I'm sure you'll have to research a bit to make Rainbowpolis a place with many flashing lights everywhere, if it's supposed to look as Vegas (dont get lazy :P)

I was thinking (well, dont remember if you've said it) if Rainbowpolis will have a kind of transportation system, considering it's gonna be quite big (something like buses)

Well, I know it's hard to deal with Uni and hacking at the same time, so try to survive doing it! >.<
Good luck!

[Teh Baro]

Hi Baro, good to see you keep working on improving your old Quartz sprites. I really dont understand what's that multi-eyed thing, so I prefer that black mouse to its right. I think that one is pretty cute ^^ (is it a dark typer?)

Nice sign, even if it doesn't flash, at least I'm sure you'll have to research a bit to make Rainbowpolis a place with many flashing lights everywhere, if it's supposed to look as Vegas (dont get lazy :P)

I was thinking (well, dont remember if you've said it) if Rainbowpolis will have a kind of transportation system, considering it's gonna be quite big (something like buses)

Well, I know it's hard to deal with Uni and hacking at the same time, so try to survive doing it! >.<
Good luck!
Ayayaye is actually an ape, but I'm aware it looks like a mouse. I didn't want to make a monkey face, and actually that made the difference. It's normal/dark type.

Yeah, the lights thing is just a project, ideas in mind. But well, with lights or not, There will be a lot of things in rainbowpolis. I'm planning on making 7 neighborhoods, one for each rainbow color, and in each one there'll be different things. For example, in the red neighborhood there will be the "club" I mentioned pages ago (don't worry I'll take it fully worksafe and ****) in honor to my trip to Amsterdam and its red light district (don't take me wrong I went there during the day and didn't even open my pocket, ALRIGHT?), the yellow neighborhood will be japantown (chinatown but with jakuzas instead of triads), a neighborhood for the casinos, another one for the shopping center, another one for a skatepark and so on. To stand all this hugeness, I'm planning of making a subway, since every city in the pokemon world is for pedestrians only. Also, having 7 stations helps.
This way, Rainbowpolis will be like 7 towns joined together.

This week I've finished and checked all the attack lists except legendaries. Not too much, but started a game -and finished- in golden sun 2 and that took most of my time.

[mschledy]

To stand all this hugeness, I'm planning of making a subway, since every city in the pokemon world is for pedestrians only. Also, having 7 stations helps.
This way, Rainbowpolis will be like 7 towns joined together.

subways eh? sounds quite cool, maybe they can become available after doing something?

[Teh Baro]

subways eh? sounds quite cool, maybe they can become available after doing something?
No, unless "doing something" means paying a 100 pokeyen ticket.

But, maybe it'd be cool if some event takes place at the subway. Gotta think about it.

[KaniTheri]

Foxy: Lol, Blowtax may have your 10bux, lol.

Dude, you were banned? :( I really loved the Let's Play of Quartz. LPs are why I started playing romhacks in the first place.

Either way that cracked me up.

[Teh Baro]

Dude, you were banned? :( I really loved the Let's Play of Quartz. LPs are why I started playing romhacks in the first place.

Either way that cracked me up.
I was banned off SA for saying "for the lulz" in my first post. Lowtax did a massive banning for this, which is completely absurd and scamming being it a board where you have to pay $10 to register, which is already absurd by itself (troll free? Blowtax is the biggest troll on the internets!). Zorak (dunno if that was his name on the board) said that the comments on that where "hints for me to edit my post" YEAH SURE LIKE EVERYBODY EXPECTED THAT AND AVOIDED TELLING ME. Well, I won't complain about it because being that the attitude of SA mods trolls I don't want to be in SA. Also, it's not up for me to complain: it was Zorak's ten bux, not mine. Like if I cared for him after that hypocrite thing he said.


Back to topic (and back to board):

I'm going to put, as part of the plot (because glass army will be around), a policeman in whiteclay town looking for Kid, Curry and Darkoon (just to remind you, in beta 2, after the train, they'll appear with a darkoon which is Meowth's equivalent from Team Rocket to Glass Army. It's a darkoon that talks and all that stuff, like meowth). He will talk to you and show you 'photos' of them, this is: I'm making sprites of their faces and put them in the infamous 25 free slots between celebi and treecko, since I'm assuming they have to cry (I hope I'm right) and use the 0x75th command to show them. I'll see if I can show more than one at once (when I discovered that command, I saw you could place it anywhere, and that you'd have to use a command to close it, so theoretically it would be possible).
I'll also put a "WANTED" sign with almost the same script.

I have already drawn Kid, now I'm drawing Curry, and depending on my laziness I'll draw darkoon's face then (If I'm not in the mood to, I'll just use darkoons everyday sprite)

[destinedjagold]

Zorak has been getting on my nerves lately, too...
Anyways, nothing I can do about his absnse of respect...

Back to the topic, I am looking forward for all the new things you added in the hack, Baro...
Also, I just remembered the question I really wanna ask you...
What does 'The long life' mean in the hack name?

Best of luck!

[shinygoldash]

Back to topic (and back to board):

I'm going to put, as part of the plot (because glass army will be around), a policeman in whiteclay town looking for Kid, Curry and Darkoon (just to remind you, in beta 2, after the train, they'll appear with a darkoon which is Meowth's equivalent from Team Rocket to Glass Army. It's a darkoon that talks and all that stuff, like meowth). He will talk to you and show you 'photos' of them, this is: I'm making sprites of their faces and put them in the infamous 25 free slots between celebi and treecko, since I'm assuming they have to cry (I hope I'm right) and use the 0x75th command to show them. I'll see if I can show more than one at once (when I discovered that command, I saw you could place it anywhere, and that you'd have to use a command to close it, so theoretically it would be possible).
I'll also put a "WANTED" sign with almost the same script.

I have already drawn Kid, now I'm drawing Curry, and depending on my laziness I'll draw darkoon's face then (If I'm not in the mood to, I'll just use darkoons everyday sprite)

Are you going to pay at the station then when you get on board, you could have someone block off one exit and another goes to the station.

[Teh Baro]

Zorak has been getting on my nerves lately, too...
Anyways, nothing I can do about his absnse of respect...

Back to the topic, I am looking forward for all the new things you added in the hack, Baro...
Also, I just remembered the question I really wanna ask you...
What does 'The long life' mean in the hack name?

Best of luck!
In quartz, Kawa was said to be more than 200 years old if I remember correctly. Baro is supposed to be around 216 years too, and that's mentioned a lot here.

The main storyline in marble is all about that. Glass Army is looking for the same thing that made Baro and Kawa stop ageing, the source of eternal youth.

[destinedjagold]

Ah................................
Okay. That cleared the confusion in my head. ^^
Thanks for explaining it to me, Baro. :)

Well, best of luck! ;)

[KaniTheri]

I was banned off SA for saying "for the lulz" in my first post. Lowtax did a massive banning for this, which is completely absurd and scamming being it a board where you have to pay $10 to register, which is already absurd by itself (troll free? Blowtax is the biggest troll on the internets!). Zorak (dunno if that was his name on the board) said that the comments on that where "hints for me to edit my post" YEAH SURE LIKE EVERYBODY EXPECTED THAT AND AVOIDED TELLING ME. Well, I won't complain about it because being that the attitude of SA mods trolls I don't want to be in SA. Also, it's not up for me to complain: it was Zorak's ten bux, not mine. Like if I cared for him after that hypocrite thing he said.

Eh, having been on SA for three years now I'm used to all the unwritten rules. It can get a little wearisome, but SA isn't for everyone. Either way, a ban is a ban and the joke ingame really was amusing.

One thing--the trainer sprites are very good, but the Pokemon proper are of a slightly lower quality. Do you use different programs for both, or techniques? The glaring difference is somewhat jarring. Also on that note, I can't say I'm really fond of the huge noses on the fire type starter and a few other wild Pokemon. To each their own, but those are the only critiques I can think of.

[Teh Baro]

Reposting the video link because of the 4.5 days loss. (http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=uL150WoxdHk#GU5U2spHI_4)
Also, a reminder of putting the random sandstorms in whiteclay, idea inspired on djg's question. - So I don't forget because I've done nothing since then

[MudMast]

how do you get the bike (skate)?

its a good hack, im at end of it but cant get the skates.

[Teh Baro]

how do you get the bike (skate)?

its a good hack, im at end of it but cant get the skates.

Go to the skate shop having the amulet tag. If you traded it for the cursed tag, you can get it back and trade again as many times as you wish.

[MudMast]

ok thanks, i got it

:D

is cut avaliable in this beta?

[Sarcastic Prince]

ok thanks, i got it

:D

is cut avaliable in this beta?

No. It is in the next beta. Anyways, I just found out how to get the train ticket:).

[Teh Baro]

http://s225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/th_garnaprogress-1.png (http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/garnaprogress-1.png)

As an excuse to bump the thread, and since all the outdoors maps are done, I've updated the progress map. Click to enlarge.
The desert routes on the limits lead to rainbowpolis city, so maybe next map has those maps split so they connect properly with the city.
Oh yeah and last map may still have some minor changes.

fun fact: I noticed a mapping error after resizing a map's pic.

Now, gotta do a lot of trainers, whiteclay city indoors and many other things. You gotta wait for beta 2.

[Eeveon]

It's good to see how far you got with ur maps.
I'll be waiting for B2.
GL!

[SonicBlazePlatinum]

I like the map you made,it's awesome.:) I'm guessing that the sign is in the desert route west of Whiteclay Town.Oh wait,I just got an idea for Rainbowpolis.There could be a three ring circus in the middle of Rainbowpolis and you can't enter until you've got a ticket.But you can't get the circus ticket until you defeat the 5th Gym.You don't have to take my idea,but it would sound great though.

[zel 2.0]

Hey, that reminds me of a question which I made and was backuped. How do you map, Baro? I mean, do you have a slight idea of how Garna's worldmap will be, or you just create the maps (specially the connections) "on the moment"?
(Maybe you drew a worldmap on paper, there's people who do that)

[Teh Baro]

Hey, that reminds me of a question which I made and was backuped. How do you map, Baro? I mean, do you have a slight idea of how Garna's worldmap will be, or you just create the maps (specially the connections) "on the moment"?
(Maybe you drew a worldmap on paper, there's people who do that)
On the beggining I just smashed connections, but then the map took shape. Now I even have the railways planned.

I like the map you made,it's awesome. I'm guessing that the sign is in the desert route west of Whiteclay Town.Oh wait,I just got an idea for Rainbowpolis.There could be a three ring circus in the middle of Rainbowpolis and you can't enter until you've got a ticket.But you can't get the circus ticket until you defeat the 5th Gym.You don't have to take my idea,but it would sound great though.
It's curious that you say that, because I was planning on putting a circus troupe in one of the desert routes. You battle them, then the leader of the troupe gives you an item.
But, nah, I won't put a circus in rainbowpolis.

[zolo1243]

I have beta 1.1 of pokemon marble, and i'm waiting for the next one, but i will wait as long as it takes. i can't wait to trade my shiny kaosune onto it!

PS: will pokemon marble have another drunk guy, like in quartz? he was my favorite!

[Teh Baro]

I have beta 1.1 of pokemon marble, and i'm waiting for the next one, but i will wait as long as it takes. i can't wait to trade my shiny kaosune onto it!

PS: will pokemon marble have another drunk guy, like in quartz? he was my favorite!
You won't be able to trade any pokemon from quartz.

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On progress update, I've made all desert routes and whiteclay town have a 1/3 chance of having a sandstormy weather every time you enter them, and made most maps of the city. Now I gotta do people scripts and... dance!

In the belly dance dance hall of Whiteclay town you can talk to the dance master and she'll ask you to dance with her. Á la Zelda Oracle of Ages style, she'll teach you the moves first, then do some sequences you'll have to memorize and then repeat. You'll have to do a minimum of steps in each sequence. Once you pass the dancing test, you can battle her and get a Mirage Glass, which will open the door of the mirage tower in the desert.

[destinedjagold]

wow... that's... o.O (I hate dancing...)
but honestly, it'll be fun! ^^

I can't wait, teh Baro! Best of luck!

[zolo1243]

You won't be able to trade any pokemon from quartz.

________________________________________

On progress update, I've made all desert routes and whiteclay town have a 1/3 chance of having a sandstormy weather every time you enter them, and made most maps of the city. Now I gotta do people scripts and... dance!

In the belly dance dance hall of Whiteclay town you can talk to the dance master and she'll ask you to dance with her. Á la Zelda Oracle of Ages style, she'll teach you the moves first, then do some sequences you'll have to memorize and then repeat. You'll have to do a minimum of steps in each sequence. Once you pass the dancing test, you can battle her and get a Mirage Glass, which will open the door of the mirage tower in the desert.

oh. not even with the VBA with link support? what a bummer:(

oh well. pokemon marble is still a great game. keep up the good work:D

[SonicBlazePlatinum]

I wonder what the Mirage Tower will be like? Maybe we'll battle Kid and Curry? I guess I'll have to wait for beta 2 to find out!Also I like the dance hall idea,it's great! Keep up the good work Baro.:)

[Teh Baro]

oh. not even with the VBA with link support? what a bummer:(

oh well. pokemon marble is still a great game. keep up the good work:D
Not, because the pokemon sets are different. As an example, Covolts was on pikachu's slot in quartz but now it's on kakuna's. Also, there will only be 251 occupied slots, the rest will be fake BAD EGGS, although they'd supposedly auto-transform into actual BAD EGGS since I'll put all their stats to 0, so the checksum would return an error and transform the pokemon into a bad egg in trades.

I wonder what the Mirage Tower will be like? Maybe we'll battle Kid and Curry? I guess I'll have to wait for beta 2 to find out!Also I like the dance hall idea,it's great! Keep up the good work Baro.
Nope, in beta 2 you'll only be able to get to the first floor. After all, it's like the equivalent to lavender tower, as in there're ghosts and a ghost event. You'll get the ghost-revealing device on rainbowpolis, so you'll have to wait to beta 3.
But, yes, on mirage tower you'll meet Kid and Curry. And also The phantom... and a new bad guy, one of the pieces that completes the "jigsaw" (i.e.: you'll understand why the Phantom thinks you are from Glass Army)

So, who wants to be post number 400?

[SonicBlazePlatinum]

So I'll have to wait for Beta 3 then?I guess I'll have to wait then.So the Beta 2 ends at the route west of Whiteclay then?I'm just guessing.

I have 400th post!:)Wow!

[Nintendemon]

Does anyone have the Original Beta 1.0 of Marble? Beta 1.1 won't work for me apparently.

[Teh Baro]

Does anyone have the Original Beta 1.0 of Marble? Beta 1.1 won't work for me apparently.
Learn to patch, over a clean rom, fire red, etc. If you can't make 1.1 to work, you won't make 1.0 to work.

@BlazetehKin
Yes, it ends at vice valley (the route that will lead to rainbowpolis) Where I'll be waiting for you to tell you it's over.
But something similar will be at the mirage tower.

[Nintendemon]

Curses! I don't know if I can do that with a Mac.

[SonicBlazePlatinum]

Learn to patch, over a clean rom, fire red, etc. If you can't make 1.1 to work, you won't make 1.0 to work.

@BlazetehKin
Yes, it ends at vice valley (the route that will lead to rainbowpolis) Where I'll be waiting for you to tell you it's over.
But something similar will be at the mirage tower.

Oh,wow that's cool.Also I noticed some things.
There's a desert route by Cobalstation that I think is called Sandy Valley,and I noticed it had a cave.Will you be able to enter it?

Oh and there's something about Kayuko's Lab.I think people might skip the event by going through Mole Galleries.(I think)Maybe after you defeat Patricia there could be Molemen blocking it?I'm not sure really.I'll stop asking questions since I said alot,but I willask a few soon.

Oh,did you nticed I made the 400th post?

Vice Valley is a good name also.

[Artificial-Insanity]

um....... this is odd. when I walked out of the house I'm in a ton of trees and can't go anywhere.... little help here?

[mschledy]

Curses! I don't know if I can do that with a Mac.

yeah, u can, there is a patcher, google mac osx ips patcher or something like that.
the one i'm using at the moment is UIPS. :)

[Mr.Roserade]

Wow, I remember playing quartz like what 2 or 3 years ago, and I think it was the only hack ive ever seen finished, keep up the good work baro

[Teh Baro]

Oh,wow that's cool.Also I noticed some things.
There's a desert route by Cobalstation that I think is called Sandy Valley,and I noticed it had a cave.Will you be able to enter it?
not, because a Boultan will be sleeping there. You'll need the pokeflute to play a song for me, then it will wake up and supposedly dance (I say supposedly because as well as you don't see snorlax attack in fire red, here I won't waste an sprite in a dancing boultan... or will I? I still have to decide, anyway that's beta 3 stuff).
In that cave you'll find the Rainbowpolis gym leader, since she won't be at the gym... there will be a funny surprise joke there ;).

I still haven't decide, but my idea is that maybe you get the ghost detector after beating the last trainee in rainbowpolis gym, then in mirage tower you get the pokeflute. Now I gotta arrange it to be coherent with the story.


Oh and there's something about Kayuko's Lab.I think people might skip the event by going through Mole Galleries.(I think)Maybe after you defeat Patricia there could be Molemen blocking it?I'm not sure really.
You can also skip going to kayuko's hideout in cobaltstation, so you won't be able to get the orange package from the lab (since you won't have the key). Anyway, once you get cut, you can cut down the tree at cobaltstation park and enter the lab through the back door. It's up to the player to decide whether taking the shortcut or the longcut, although since you'll have cut, the most logical thing is to explore the new ways that will open by cutting down trees. The game is enough linear as it is, so blocking the long way wouldn't be a good idea.

Also, kayuko's new hideout will be in rainbowpolis, so if you don't do that part, nobody will be there. As a side note, to enter there you will also need to get the password from the parnot at wisteria village, so maybe you gotta buy mole cookies.


I'll stop asking questions since I said alot,but I willask a few soon.
Keep asking everything you want


Oh,did you nticed I made the 400th post?
Yes :D


Vice Valley is a good name also.
Vice, as in all the vice that surrounds rainbowpolis.


@skeetacular's avatar
OMG you look like me!

[Xiros]

Hey Baro!
Pokémon Marble is going great man!
I can't wait to beta 2, which i suppose (and hope) that will be released soon.
Good luck!

[Teh Baro]

Hey Baro!
Pokémon Marble is going great man!
I can't wait to beta 2, which i suppose (and hope) that will be released soon.
Good luck!
thanks for bumping the thread man

SO
I told Xiros to bump the thread because I was uploading the video of the dancing script to youtube, but failed. tried to record it again and failed to convert video file. Youtube's a *%&·!
Actually that happened before, when I recorded the shiny, that's why there isn't a video of it.
But well, you'll see it in the beta.
The script is done, after an entire afternoon and 12 Kb of 570 lines of source code.

There're 5 steps: Jump, waist move, spin right, spin left, and mambo. You're taught the moves and then the dancing leader does 4 sequences, each one more and more fast (less wait between steps). You have to make a minimum steps in each sequence to pass:
3/4 in the firs, 4/6 in the second, 6/8 in the third and perfect 8/8 in the last one.
After each sequence, you gotta chose the steps you are going to make (obviously, the ones that the NPC did). The other dancers at the hall will always do the right step, so if you fail, you'll notice it because you'll be the only one doing a different movement. After the 4 sequences, you battle the leader of the belly dancers and receive the mirage glass as a prize.

Argh, damn youtube, if it worked, it'd be so cute to watch!
* tomorrow I'll upload some pictures, now it's a bit late

[destinedjagold]

Nice. Man, I wonder if it'll be a difficult task. xD
Anyways, keep up the great work!
I'm excited to see more! :P

[zel 2.0]

Bummer, I wonder why you keep having those tube's problems? >.<

Anyway, at least, it'll be interesting to see how the whole deal is done. It really sounds confusing when you explain it (hehe... I cant take the "mambo" move from my head XP)

[Teh Baro]

Here's some pics
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/hack2_01-3.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/hack2_02-3.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/hack2_03.png
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/hack2_05.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/hack2_06.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/hack2_07.png
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/hack2_08.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/hack2_09.png

I just discovered photobucket supports videos, so here is a short demonstration. Rounds 3 and 4 are longer and harder. (in each round, the pause between each step is halved)
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/th_dan.jpg
Click to watch (http://s225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/?action=view&current=dan.flv)

[BlackRainbow*]

Woah nice screens and video. You are amazing scripter man. Great work

[Virtual Chatot]

Baro, that was truly the most amazing 50 second video I've seen in the last hour.

Thank you :D

[Went]

O_O
Amazing script. I only wish it's not as hard as it was in OoA. At least, you can miss here ^_^

XD at the subrosians

[Teh Baro]

O_O
Amazing script. I only wish it's not as hard as it was in OoA. At least, you can miss here ^_^

XD at the subrosians
Subrosian dance were in OoS, in OoA is goron dance, which is more like this.

The good thing here is that you don't have to care about time, just choose the right steps.

[mschledy]

Is this whole dancing thing necessary for the plot/game progression?
or is it just for fun?

[Sarcastic Prince]

Is this whole dancing thing necessary for the plot/game progression?
or is it just for fun?

Yes, it is necessary to do this since you'll need the Mirage Glass to complete the game.

[zel 2.0]

So, it's like a memory game, then? Hmmm... And the speed of the movement of the dancers is what makes it a challenge, I see. Well, I understand it now. Maybe sometime later you could make something like an "extreme" challenge or something like that (because I'm sure there's always people who'd like to brag about their good memory :laugh:)

[Lady Berlitz]

That's a good idea, Baro. It looks very good, and the idea of the memory game, as well as the cool dance moves, would add a great addition to this game. I always liked this game (even though I've never finished the Beta), so keep it going, Baro. Good luck!

[SonicBlazePlatinum]

The dancing memory game is an awesome script Baro.I think it's a nice addition to the hack.Good work!

[destinedjagold]

wowowee!
that was awesome! =3

I love it, Baro, but if we er, got the moves wrong, will we start all over again? :\

[shadowking93]

dancing seems hard, i have no clue on remembering dance steps! wait...are the moves in the video like the ones in the game?(hehehe, cheating time) dancing seems kind of a new thing for pokemon. hope the game goes well! Although, i have no memory on comp to play, so a good luck from a guy who reads peoples comments and goes along with them.

[Har D Har]

Wait, like from Oracle of Ages?

Nooooooo!!! I could never do that! I'm f***ed!

[Sarcastic Prince]

Wait, like from Oracle of Ages?

Nooooooo!!! I could never do that! I'm f***ed!

HDH, no swearing in here! Even if you put some stars, I still count you sweared!

[I can haz haxburgrz?]

how far are you planning on getting until you post beta 2? i played throught beta 1.1 in under an hour..... it was masive but still short.... know what i mean? but for a beta 1 you used up a lot of the mapping space..... i hope this works out well..... bol

[Tropical Sunlight]

I can't wait for BETA 2 I love your Fakemon

[SonicBlazePlatinum]

I looked at the beta 2 map again and I noticed some things.

In Whiteclay Town there's an oasis,and a big building below the pokemart that's probably the belly dance hall and there's an Inn.

There's a place below Wist Woods where the egg train stops.What's that places name?

In Blue Lands there's a cave that is possibly the Bomberman location.

In Sky Lands the Forest Passage has three entrences/exits.The Forest Passage must be big.

Thats what I noticed about the Beta 2 map.

[Tenzou]

Baro! I love your Quartz hack and Marble (although I was a bit disappointed by this one) I love the original mapping, events, everything, basically. But I have to test the second Beta so I can advance even more x). Good luck and keep it up.

[I can haz haxburgrz?]

yes i noticed that the forest path must be REALLY big.... i hate big "dungeons" (caves and forests) plzzzzzz tell me it wont take a year to get through......

[PokeCale]

That looks cool. I'll download the BETA right away.

Oh by the way. I bought a Pokémon Quartz and a Chaos Black cartridge ages ago in Skegness before i was even aware of ROM hacking.

Looking forward for it's completion.

[Teh Baro]

wowowee!
that was awesome! =3

I love it, Baro, but if we er, got the moves wrong, will we start all over again? :\
Yes. But the sequences will be the same.
If you fail several times you can write them down.
And since the other dancers will dance along with you (but doing the correct steps), after several tries you can get the sequences if you don't see them when the dancin leader does them.

how far are you planning on getting until you post beta 2? i played throught beta 1.1 in under an hour..... it was masive but still short.... know what i mean? but for a beta 1 you used up a lot of the mapping space..... i hope this works out well..... bol
On how far, watch the map on the first post.
Maybe beta 2 is a bit shorter (the new parts, I mean)... But well, betas are short? I don't give a duck, since sooner or later I WILL end it. So this is not like when other hacks release a beta and it's short and days later they start a new hack and forget the old one.
What do you mean by mapping space? I am adding new map banks in AM. To be exact, I added 2: one with 20 from which I used like 13, and another that it's only reserved, and when I use it I'll reserve like 50 maps, and there's still plenty of rom space.

I looked at the beta 2 map again and I noticed some things.

In Whiteclay Town there's an oasis,and a big building below the pokemart that's probably the belly dance hall and there's an Inn.

There's a place below Wist Woods where the egg train stops.What's that places name?

In Blue Lands there's a cave that is possibly the Bomberman location.

In Sky Lands the Forest Passage has three entrences/exits.The Forest Passage must be big.

Thats what I noticed about the Beta 2 map.
- The dance hall is the big building at the very south of whiteclay town
- It's still wistwoods
- Yep, that's bomberman's
-Actually four: 2 from sky lands, the southern that leads to the desert, and the northern which leads to wisteria village. But actually it's not big. In fact, it's very short. It's like the underground road from FIRE RED, but with some stuff on it (but no wild pokemon). There're some low level covolts hanging from the trees and a guy asks you to get rid of them (then he gives you a choice band). The secret is that some of those covolts hold good items, so if you remember this when playing the beta 2, catch them.

yes i noticed that the forest path must be REALLY big.... i hate big "dungeons" (caves and forests) plzzzzzz tell me it wont take a year to get through......
See above. The forest passage is a pretty, sweet, happy, light, foggy, small, cute, safe place.


UPDATING ON NEWS

I've redone attack lists from 100 to 151 since somehow I lost them. Also, I did the pokedex size comparison and Ht/Wt for all pokemon, and put some new phone events (I realized there were none new!). This weekend/next week I'll make the trainers of the 2 last routes, a couple of lucky tags events, some pokemon data (stats and check the evolutions)... aaaaaand we're done (after some fast stuff: wild pokemon and background musics). Unless I die or something worse, next weekend the beta will would be ready. Then if Xiros/Serg!o are online, it'll be released.


Also, I've been thinking and maybe I'm putting 3 new pokemon on 151's set. Because the lowheaven kings of west, south and east are there, and it's not logical because they're not from garna. I am yet to decide if they'll legendaries or not, but that will be beta 3 matters.

[zel 2.0]

Yes. But the sequences will be the same.
If you fail several times you can write them down.

Unless I die or something worse, next weekend the beta will would be ready. Then if Xiros/Serg!o are online, it'll be released.

To the first paragraph: Wouldn't it be more interesting if you were to randomize the movements to execute? (and if you fail, you'd get a different sequence), 'cause that thing of always being the same sounds a bit boring (in my opinion)

To the second paragraph: Cool! What else? ^o^

[SonicBlazePlatinum]

It's going to be released on next weekend? Cool I guess I can play my DS Lite while i'm waiting then.Oh and I disagree with zel(sorry),because some people can't remember some things which means they can write it down to remember,but if it's random then how can we pass?Remember Baro did say we'd start over again.But that's my opinion.Don't worry zel you're as cool as Baro and coolboyman.

(I think I kind of went off topic)

[Teh Baro]

To the first paragraph: Wouldn't it be more interesting if you were to randomize the movements to execute? (and if you fail, you'd get a different sequence), 'cause that thing of always being the same sounds a bit boring (in my opinion)

To the second paragraph: Cool! What else? ^o^

Maybe, but that would be thrice as complex as it already is...
Let me sketch it...
I can think of two possibilities:

1.-
Since the last sequence has 8 steps, use 8 extra variables to copyvar the steps created in eight random 5 sentences. Then 5 comparevars for the dancers to do the right step, then 5 more to check if that's the right step...

2.-
randomize a previously fixed amount of sequences, then use as many branches of the script as sequences exist.

Maybe I do it, but well...

EDIT
Then again, if I randomize, BTK is right. Not on the fact that people can't remember things (now the simpsons episode when they change the phone prefixes comes to my mind, they say somewhere something like CartoonPhone:"it's been proven that even a monkey can remember up to 10 numbers, are you dumber than a monkey" Moe/Apu:"A superinteligent monkey?" CartoonPhone:"Of course not!"), but it'd be tiring to start over and over again.
So then again two solutions are possible:
- When wrong, goto previous parts of the script and try again with a brand new sequence of the same level.
- When wrong, set a flag so when you come back you start in that one. I'd reject this because I'm very mean with flags. My precioouuuuuus.

[Retribution]

Yay I own TLOZ: Ages and Seasons. :) Cant wait for the beta and the dancing brings good memories :)
I think it would be a bit easy if its the exact same but it would be a bi hard if it was always different. Never the less, this hacks looking good. Keep up the good work :)

[SonicBlazePlatinum]

I have an idea.You could do what you originally planned,the same dance if you fail on it.Because we want to battle the dance leader and continue with Beta 2.Oh one question,What are the names of the main characters you start with,and what's the rival's name?

[Teh Baro]

What are the names of the main characters you start with,and what's the rival's name?
They have no set name, but the rival's name is Kabuchi Kabuken.

[Fendaril]

Teh baro I see the language you like to use still thrives. I love the readme LOL! too bad for ken fans.

[DarkFear]

Cool hack, it's gonna be big when it's released...

[Virtual Chatot]

Cool hack, it's gonna be big when it's released...

The beta's released at least, lol <3~

[SonicBlazePlatinum]

Are there any new updates yet Baro?Have you decided the way the dancing in the dance hall will go?

[Teh Baro]

Teh baro I see the language you like to use still thrives. I love the readme LOL! too bad for ken fans.
In fact, the pointer to "KEN" in the name list points to the ken in kabuken


@heatran
he means next week when beta2 is released

[Virtual Chatot]

Oh, I thought he was simply talking about when it was to be released, which it already has.

Nevermind then x3

[sparda_200_8]

Awesome hack Baro. You're Fakemon are cool too. Since Quartz was a good hack I know this one will be just as good.

[Tropical Sunlight]

are quartz pokemon in pokemon marble?
Bulbasaur = Chapebaya
Treecko = Seegg

[Mitchman]

Dont think so. Anyway wow in only a week teh beta 2. Can't wait

[Blazichu]

Seeing as Teh Baro has put alot of work and effort into his hack, he deserves the Hack of the Month! Christos and myself agreed to pick this hack.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/itoshiki/hackofthemonth2008.png

Yes, it has returned and will hopefully be as good as before.

Enjoy the month of stickiness!

[destinedjagold]

congratulations, Teh Baro! =3
ain't it inspiring? x3

[jj_olli]

HOTM 2008??? (APRIL missing if that isn't an April's fool!!!!).

Nice thing to get such an award, I look forward to the next Beta, I really enjoyed the first one, continue the way you are doing the hack, it's awesome.

[Mitchman]

HOTM wow this is something for teh baro to look up t

[ksunwoo6]

Cool it's Awsome man I love your fakemons

[Dan13x]

Wow! HotM! That's really good Teh Baro!

So beta 2 will be released this weekend huh? Good luck with that!

[Teh Baro]

Whoah whoah whoah

I come from college to check if there are new posts and first didn't find my thread, though it was dumped to page 2 and then... wow!

I'm so surprised! thanks Blazichu and Christos for chosing marble as HoTM!
Don't know what to say, I'm amazed. Thanks!

But anyway, thanks, I know I dese...eh... I mean... thanks.

Remember, on saturday or sunday beta 2 will be ready and I hope released. Maybe even Friday night (GMT+1) depending on who's online and all that. I've already done all the trainers in one of the last routes, that, another route, a couple of simple events, wild pokemon data and background music makes the minimuns for the release. That'll be done today (Monday and yesterday I wasted time beating abe's oddysee (100%) and abe's exodus (lol in italian, ciao, sequiri mi, lavora!, fallo!, aiuuuuuto lol) so I know that'll be on time). Then, I'm going to start with stats and/or HM/TM compatibility (PA doen't work well with HM's 07 and 08 so I'll gotta grab windows calc and werk it myself).


Thanks again for HoTM dudes!
* So I was doubting on make a new thread for beta 2 or just ask mods to rename this one, but this made it clearer. Someone remind me to tell them then.

[Coolboyman]

Whoah whoah whoah

I come from college to check if there are new posts and first didn't find my thread, though it was dumped to page 2 and then... wow!

I'm so surprised! thanks Blazichu and Christos for chosing marble as HoTM!
Don't know what to say, I'm amazed. Thanks!

But anyway, thanks, I know I dese...eh... I mean... thanks.

Well hell, you DO deserve it. Good job.

[zel 2.0]

Yep, I also agree with Christos and Blazichu's choice. Your hack has a lot of effort, mainly put on showing new features for the players, and the fact that you work on your spriting all alone.

So, I'll be waiting for that release, to have another taste of Marble. Let's see if this time I manage to find a new Pokemon that I can feel attached to :P

[Maxie_da_man]

GO BARO! Haven't played the hack yet, but seen the vids of yur marvelous work. Great Job!

[SonicBlazePlatinum]

This hack was one of the best Pokemon hacks I've ever played.It was unique with the fakemon and the new trainer classes.It deserves to be HoTM.Good Job,Baro.:)

[Mitchman]

Well two days till beta two. Oh wait I just realized I live in the same time zone as him so one day. I can't wait

[Lady Berlitz]

Well, I just noticed this, too, and I HAVE TO congratulate you on getting Hack of the Month... congrats, Baro! I hope you keep this hack going, and don't give up until you've finished this, just like Pokémon Quartz! I hope this hack prevails as well, Baro. Good luck!

[Tropical Sunlight]

Conguralitons (spelling?), Teh Baro!

I have a friend in school, her name is Nicole and she speaks Spanish

[Binary]

Congratulations Baro! I think you fully deserve this award. I think Blazichu did the right job. I hope you never give up on this!

[Neti]

WOW!
This Hack is totally awesome! I watched all the videos and there are so many original ideas and really nice done scripts! I espacially like the infinite Stairs^^
i thought you managed to do that with a warp script, but the screen is not fading... no idea how you did it since ive just started scripting

[SonicBlazePlatinum]

Wow.Beta 2 is coming out soon.I can't wait until beta 2.

[Teh Baro]

Wow.Beta 2 is coming out soon.I can't wait until beta 2.
Soon? Xiros is uploading it NOW!

WHOAAAAAAAAAH It's out!

Don't know what to say except GO FRIGGING DOWNLOAD IT RIGHT NOW CLICKING HERE!
(then go down the page and marble is there, hit on descarga (download) (http://wah.studiopokemon.com/hr/hr.php#marble)

It's shorter in length than beta 1, but I had less time and this time I've done greatest things (You know it)

Oh by the way the dancing script is now random. Up to 8 random steps you have to memorize and copy, if you fail you can try again a similar sequence. I must say, in last round, the random fails a bit because of the speed, so the steps repeat and it's not that hard. Also, when you complete it, you can play again.



Remember to report any bug you find. After all, it's a beta and you're betatesting it.

Known issues: I've changed some flags since beta 1, so some events may repeat (once) ONLY if you continue your game. for example: Baro giving you the Trainers

[cooley]

Thanks you, Now I'll have another game to play when I'm bored from hacking! xD
You do deserve the HotM because Marble is Excellent!

No time to talk though, I have to go Put it on my PSP right away.
cya!

[Megiddo-san]

I found a small error. In wistwoods there is a grass tile that you can't walk on.

[Eeveon]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES.
Finally.
I just downloaded it.
I'm gonna play it.
Cya.

[Teh Baro]

I found a small error. In wistwoods there is a grass tile that you can't walk on.
can you post a screen? I can't find it.
Ah, found it, it's at the top of the map right? Thanks

(Also forgot to remind everybody to assure you're patching a clean rom, do not patch over beta 1.1)

[Megiddo-san]

Yeah. I tried that first and a lot of things were screwed up.

[TB Pro]

Oookaaaayyy....I was playing it, and made it to Hollow Woods, and I found a wild "Shiftry". Well it's not a Shiftry...I'll upload a pic in a second. Here: http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh290/Blazikendude/Shiftry.png

[mschledy]

ok, this is great, only one thing... there was a ghost with shadow tag........
i couldnt do anything.....

[Shuriken236]

Wow this looks great, best work ive ever seen. Im going to downlod it right away.

[Mitchman]

Can I ask where this goes up to

[Retribution]

Its out?!?!
Yeeeees!
I have been waiting for ages!
Downloading it now :)
Oh and keep up the good work :)

[Teh Baro]

ok, this is great, only one thing... there was a ghost with shadow tag........
i couldnt do anything.....
Ouch, didn't ven think of that possibility... fixing now.
If you can somehow avoid that ghost with savestates (it's because of magiken, which also has synchronize, so you can avoid it)... if it gets too tiring, I'll gotta release a minibug patch. Report more stuff if you find it.

oh and TB Pro! patch over a clean fire red rom kthnxbay

[Tropical Sunlight]

Clean FireRed? OK, no problem.

I'll download it right away.

[Went]

I have started playing it, and I have to say: great work.
I always love games that make me laugh each few minutes.

And, two errors.

-This tree is two trees at the same time. You have to use cut twice.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/353/doblearbustovy9.bmp

-And, um, naming error.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/199/ozziewl8.bmp

EDIT: When you go back to Cobalstation after the train crash, the guy in the station doesn't talk to you :[

[Teh Baro]

I have started playing it, and I have to say: great work.
I always love games that make me laugh each few minutes.

And, two errors.

-This tree is two trees at the same time. You have to use cut twice.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/353/doblearbustovy9.bmp

-And, um, naming error.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/199/ozziewl8.bmp


First one is incidentally.

Second one... in map it was a hiker wasn't it? I searched it in pet and had a rooki so I suppose so.

Also, corrected a script: patricia gives you shock wave instead of phychic.

[Mitchman]

Um teh baro how is this shorter than beta 1?

[Teh Baro]

Um teh baro how is this shorter than beta 1?
shorter counting only from where I left it in beta 1.
Of course, the whole beta, including the changes done in beta 1, is longer.

[Mitchman]

so from the town with t train station up to..........?

[pokehacker88]

Very nice hack I think i download it right now...

[Teh Baro]

so from the town with t train station up to..........?

whiteclay town. See the map in the first post. That's all that's done

*also notice that there's cyan town to the east

[Mitchman]

K thnx and this is really good if I didn't mention it

[SonicBlazePlatinum]

I got done with Beta 2 yesterday.It took me awhile to finish.

The swimmers in Kellygreen Gym and the one on Cobalt Beach have the wrong overworld.
What happens if I don't get Kayuko's Key?
In Belly Dance Hall sometimes when you mess up the belly dance leader does one move but stops.When you talk to her again the other dancers walk into her.0.0
In Mole galleries,in the room where after using explosion one of the rocks is walkable on.
In Whiteclay town you can walk on the bookshelves in the houses.
The guy in green named Aali has the same text as the biker he replaced along with the Pokemon he uses.
These are the stuff I found in beta 2.

[Sarcastic Prince]

I got done with Beta 2 yesterday.It took me awhile to finish.

The swimmers in Kellygreen Gym and the one on Cobalt Beach have the wrong overworld.
What happens if I don't get Kayuko's Key?
In Belly Dance Hall sometimes when you mess up the belly dance leader does one move but stops.When you talk to her again the other dancers walk into her.0.0
In Mole galleries,in the room where after using explosion one of the rocks is walkable on.
In Whiteclay town you can walk on the bookshelves in the houses.
The guy in green named Aali has the same text as the biker he replaced along with the Pokemon he uses.
These are the stuff I found in beta 2.

If you don't get Kayuko's Key, you're in BIG trouble.
Ow man, I should NOT choose the grass type starter as my starter. It's no good!
Yea, I found no glitches in the game.
I only have suggestions::
1. When you use Explosion, it should have a very, very small earthquake.
2. Shiny Zappel is a special fakemon so should have stronger moves and higher level. Not 20, but at least 25 and higher stats.
3. Egg Train has a small explosion too. So it should have a small, samll earthquake too.

[Eeveon]

I'm having a problem too.

I'm using a gameshark file and every time I save, turn it off, turn it on, press continue, and skip the flashback, IT RESTARTS!
It got me so mad that I'll have to re-patch to a clean ROM and not use a gameshark file.
I don't know about everyone else, but this game is hard for me.
I lose a bunch of times (not being whiny).
But, how do I fix that.

[Erich336]

what do I do when I get to cobaltstation city?(like in the next story part)
p.s. if there is cut in the game, where is it?

[Teh Baro]

I'm having a problem too.

I'm using a gameshark file and every time I save, turn it off, turn it on, press continue, and skip the flashback, IT RESTARTS!
It got me so mad that I'll have to re-patch to a clean ROM and not use a gameshark file.
I don't know about everyone else, but this game is hard for me.
I lose a bunch of times (not being whiny).
But, how do I fix that.
Gamesharks are not my problem. You shouldn't use gamesharks at all, savestates are enough cheat. What are you going to do, gameshark to get mewtwo? *blink* *blink*


what do I do when I get to cobaltstation city?(like in the next story part)
p.s. if there is cut in the game, where is it?
Hm? After the train, you shold have cut BEFORE getting again to cobaltstation, as it's needed to get to cyan town. If you're for the first time in cobaltstation, you need to get the cursed tag (from the exorcist in the house with the broken door) and go to grace beach (south-east to kellygreen), go to laetitia's house and talk to ger to get the ticket, then ride the train in cobaltstation.

You get CUT from the man at wist castle.

If you don't get Kayuko's Key, you're in BIG trouble.
Ow man, I should NOT choose the grass type starter as my starter. It's no good!
Yea, I found no glitches in the game.
I only have suggestions::
1. When you use Explosion, it should have a very, very small earthquake.
2. Shiny Zappel is a special fakemon so should have stronger moves and higher level. Not 20, but at least 25 and higher stats.
3. Egg Train has a small explosion too. So it should have a small, samll earthquake too.

1.- Yeah gotta find a -working- special that makes that earthquake effect.
2.- It's not possible to say "go, higher stats in this wildbattle!*. And I don't want to gift a high lever pokemon. Actually, it's just a pokemon with a pigmentation problem - a very unique pigmentation problem. Did red gyarados be braver than other gyarados? It just was mightier in comparison with the other magikarp.
3.- See 1.

I got done with Beta 2 yesterday.It took me awhile to finish.

The swimmers in Kellygreen Gym and the one on Cobalt Beach have the wrong overworld.
What happens if I don't get Kayuko's Key?
In Belly Dance Hall sometimes when you mess up the belly dance leader does one move but stops.When you talk to her again the other dancers walk into her.0.0
In Mole galleries,in the room where after using explosion one of the rocks is walkable on.
In Whiteclay town you can walk on the bookshelves in the houses.
The guy in green named Aali has the same text as the biker he replaced along with the Pokemon he uses.
These are the stuff I found in beta 2.
- My bad, didn't realize that one.
- Nothing by now. You can't get the orange package in the secret tunnel, so you can't give it to Kayuko and that's all in beta 2. In beta 3 it'll mean he won't be at his secret backdoor lab and you won't be able to get in even if you got the password from Parnot.
- Hmmmmmmm interesting that'll be hard to spot, specially because I have the source code in my laptop - and my laptop is not here.
- My bad
- My bad
- Whooops my bad.

Thanks everyone for this stuff, I think it's enough for a beta 2.1. It'll be out next week, unless more people find stuff and I don't fix it in time.

[Erich336]

thank you baro,great hack! :]

[Eeveon]

Gamesharks are not my problem. You shouldn't use gamesharks at all, savestates are enough cheat. What are you going to do, gameshark to get mewtwo? *blink* *blink*

No, just max stats, all poke balls, complete dex

[Sarcastic Prince]

Gamesharks are not my problem. You shouldn't use gamesharks at all, savestates are enough cheat. What are you going to do, gameshark to get mewtwo? *blink* *blink*



Hm? After the train, you shold have cut BEFORE getting again to cobaltstation, as it's needed to get to cyan town. If you're for the first time in cobaltstation, you need to get the cursed tag (from the exorcist in the house with the broken door) and go to grace beach (south-east to kellygreen), go to laetitia's house and talk to ger to get the ticket, then ride the train in cobaltstation.

You get CUT from the man at wist castle.



1.- Yeah gotta find a -working- special that makes that earthquake effect.
2.- It's not possible to say "go, higher stats in this wildbattle!*. And I don't want to gift a high lever pokemon. Actually, it's just a pokemon with a pigmentation problem - a very unique pigmentation problem. Did red gyarados be braver than other gyarados? It just was mightier in comparison with the other magikarp.
3.- See 1.


- My bad, didn't realize that one.
- Nothing by now. You can't get the orange package in the secret tunnel, so you can't give it to Kayuko and that's all in beta 2. In beta 3 it'll mean he won't be at his secret backdoor lab and you won't be able to get in even if you got the password from Parnot.
- Hmmmmmmm interesting that'll be hard to spot, specially because I have the source code in my laptop - and my laptop is not here.
- My bad
- My bad
- Whooops my bad.

Thanks everyone for this stuff, I think it's enough for a beta 2.1. It'll be out next week, unless more people find stuff and I don't fix it in time.

Okay, I get it now. Shiny Zappel is already cool. I don't think it needs high stats or higher levels anymore. I think Zel's SG has some small earthquakes when you walk in S.S Aqua Fastship. I think you can use those.

[TrevorTheKing]

It would be great if you could put evolution guides on here ^_^

Well if you cant I have one question before I try it does Lando evolve? I want to catch one but I dont know if it will be worth it :/

[More4Life]

Very nice additions to the game, but can someone tell me where to get the HM cut? I couldn't find it.....

[Coolboyman]

I just beat the first gym, and I'm really liking it. You have a great cast of characters and new Pokemon. Only suggestion I would be is to mix the events up a little. It's just kind of boring being called back from leaving the first town to get a pokemon, and then battle your rival right away. Same goes with delivering the parcel, and meeting the "old man" on the second town. I think you should mix these up a bit, supply a slightly different (but not complicated) quest to get the Pokedex, get your first Pokemon a different way than the normal games, I think you understand me. :)

But yeah, this still gets a 9.5/10 in my book, keep it up. Probably a 10/10 if you alter the scripts and mix things up so it's 100% unpredictable from the original game.

[Tropical Sunlight]

Whic Pokemon learns EXPLOSION?

[Sarcastic Prince]

Whic Pokemon learns EXPLOSION?

Some fakemon like Armorito and most ground and rock types.
Hey, Baro did you notice that a Pokemanic name's called Pikachu?

[Binary]

Wow, beta 2 is out? Sweet now I can finish where I last finished off...xD
Anyways, nice work on the hack Baro. I'm loving the beta 8D