[Hack of the Month 2008] [BETA 2 OUT!] POKéMON MARBLE - The long life - 4/1/08

[Teh Baro]

POKéMON MARBLE - The long life
By BARO - author of POKéMON QUARTZ
A hack of POKéMON FIRE RED

20 years after the adventures of Ran and J.Akira, a new quest begins in the region of GARNA in the country of Lowheaven. An innocent trainer will get involved in an obscure plot of gangsters, mafias and a great secret. However, the real enemy that everybody tries to fight is the Death... but is that a right thing to do?

Professor Baro will help you in your career as a trainer. Fight new trainers, new Pokémon, the GLASS ARMY and The Phantom, a mysterious character with a dark secret. Travel around the other regions in the country using the EGG TRAIN, catch the four guardians and a whole new collection of legendary. Be part of the legends of this magical country. Travel through the forests, the molehills, the seas, the caves, deserts, towns, (big) cities while meeting new trainers.


Pokémon Marble features some of the pokemon already in Pokémon Quartz, but most of them will be new for you. There are also some brand new Pokémon. All the new graphics are slighty more professional, as well as the text and other stuff.

Now for a mosaic of random and repeating pics, they tell a lot more than a whole lot of random and repeating text:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/Titlescreen.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/introvideo3.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/introvideo2.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/letter.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/coalchu.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/todad.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/chapebaya.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/magiken.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/girl.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/dude.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/rival.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/window.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/fight.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/BAROCOMES.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/tangerine.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/mapget.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/6turkurs.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/fatman.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/fatmanlessons.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/hurhur.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/statue.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/run.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/raka.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/lando.png
*Notice that that ugly tree has been changed. There're screens of the new tree somewhere around there
See in action >
GO TO POKéMON MARBLE VIDEO PLAYLIST (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=D1462CC45B05DDA7)

· BETA 2.1 AVAILABLE! ------- *************************
Download here, in WAH (http://wah.studiopokemon.com/hr/hr.php#marble) (it's the one in the bottom of the page)/B]

KNOWN ISSUES (apart for the things not done yet, see the readme for more info):

· At MOLEHILLS, after exiting the mole galleries, you see the map border in the right. That's because there's no route connecting YET.

·Some events may be played again if you continue your game from beta 1. That's because I changed some flags.

Please submit glitches if you find them. That's what betas are for.


CURRENT PROGRESS
http://s225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/th_garnaprogress-1.png
Click to enlarge (http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/garnaprogress-1.png)
(updated 15/3/08)

[Saurav]

WOW now we are talking.... the story sounds cool and somemore what with a beta, I will try it out soon.

[destinedjagold]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/destinedjagold/Neutral.jpg Okay~... this is new...
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/destinedjagold/Smile.jpg Well.., uh. Good luck, anyways!

[Went]

Well, I played it and it was even better than I thought. I have a question: are you going to keep half of the houses around closed? It looks like... lazy-ish.
Ah! I found an important glitch: the second battle with the rival, in the exit of the forest, your rival simply doesn't appear:

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/248/yelrival2ts9.png

The first time, I thought he was calling me by phone... The battle goes on correctly, nevertheless.

(Oh, and this guy in the shop finishes his sentence with a comma instead of a dot... minor stupid thing)

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3630/comalu2.png

[cooley]

Whoooooo! 4th post.(LOL).
Nice Screen shots, I like the Title Screen a lot. Wonder how you did it??

Anyway those Pokémon I've seen somewhere before, I have a Beta of that in Ruby. I looked at them through pokepic, but it is really old.

Good luck!

[Teh Baro]

Well, I played it and it was even better than I thought. I have a question: are you going to keep half of the houses around closed? It looks like... lazy-ish.
Making every house around open would need to make 1000 useless maps. I'm adding some where needed, but it would be stupid. Actually I just add more houses, though closed, because it's stupid to see "cerulean city" and see 5 houses. WTF, FIVE HOUSES DO NOT MAKE A CITY!


http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/248/yelrival2ts9.png
Hmmm? I though that worked. I'll check what happens there.

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3630/comalu2.png
Ooops

Anyway those Pokémon I've seen somewhere before, I have a Beta of that in Ruby. I looked at them through pokepic, but it is really old.
In my old hack, pokémon quartz. (I hope, otherwise it'd mean that somebody stole them)

[cooley]

Oh yeah, that explains it.

[djloi]

cool job..i waiting forward for ur next presentation =)

[Binary]

Ummm..........Looks pretty cool!!
All I have to say is good luck
The graphics look okay and the new pokemon look
great but you should improve em

[Concorde]

Looks interesting. Unfortunately, fakemon still need A LOT of work (duh, fakemon maniac says that xD). But that doesn't mean I won't enjoy playing this hack ;d Good luck and...um...yeah.

[Went]

Ok, big problem: the script of the phantom guy has a problem and isn't correctly finished, so the music start playing lower and nothing happens. Freezing. I had to use the walk through walls code to avoid him.

And I found this in the other side:

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7013/cartelraroum1.png

[Teh Baro]

Ok, big problem: the script of the phantom guy has a problem and isn't correctly finished, so the music start playing lower and nothing happens. Freezing. I had to use the walk through walls code to avoid him.

And I found this in the other side:

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7013/cartelraroum1.png

(Here was supposed to be a comment about how much I like the game, but, since Ozu is also around here...)

NOW that's weird, both things were tested (actally if the phantom think hadn't worked I wouldn't have passed that area.
It's soemthing usual when I post betas, so well, maybe I'll post a fixed update soon. Why the rival not appearing still puzzles me, I think I know why does it happen, but I still need to know a way to know where a sprite is even if I don't see it during the game...

[pokeguy12]

woah i found a few wild lv3 COMUBSKENS. 0.0 , can you find other starters on the same route?

[Yono]

The VBA I'm using won't load it. -____- And I really wanted to play this.

[robmortar]

It looks good,but what're the equivelents of other pokemon?

[pokeguy12]

hm rob , if you go to your party ineventory go look at their icons and you'll find out. he hasn't FULLY edited the main pokemon icons.

[Keishii]

Wow this is a looks like a really great ROM ;) I love your fakemon :P

(by the way, just wondering...how come your Quartz download link doesn't work anymore on WAH?)

Ok sorry if I sound really dumb, but:
Why is the ROM not a .gba file? or What emulator can I use that will support your rom?

^Nevermind, I figured it out^

[jj_olli]

Wow this is a looks like a really great ROM ;) I love your fakemon :P

(by the way, just wondering...how come your Quartz download link doesn't work anymore on WAH?)

Ok sorry if I sound really dumb, but:
Why is the ROM not a .gba file? or What emulator can I use that will support your rom?
It's an ips file, you have to patch it on a rom for that you have to use Lunarips or winips.

[Corona]

Wow this is a looks like a really great ROM ;) I love your fakemon :P

(by the way, just wondering...how come your Quartz download link doesn't work anymore on WAH?)

Ok sorry if I sound really dumb, but:
Why is the ROM not a .gba file? or What emulator can I use that will support your rom?
Qouted for stupidity >_>

You have to patch it onto a GBA file (FIre Red) and then itll work

Great hack!

[destinedjagold]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/destinedjagold/Smile.jpg Also, you'll need to have LIPS installed ion your computer, http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/destinedjagold/Happy.jpg so you can patch the IPS File onto a clean FireRed ROM.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/destinedjagold/Happy2.jpg Good luck with this hack! Keep it up!

[Keishii]

I like your 'Under Construction' map. :nervous:

Yeah, I felt like pointing out that on Route Orange, you messed up a warp >.< On map 15.2 there are two warps that are told to go to Warp No. 6 on Route Orange, when there isn't a Warp No.6 (even though theres 6 warps.) Just thought I'd point that out before someone gets stuck inside a tree and has to reset their game :P

Oh and that same building, from the outside: When entering from the left side, you end up inside entering from the right...And when entering from the right [outside] you end up entering from the left on the inside...

I hope I wasn't a bother, and that I was actually of some help :)

[koji_234]

It seems very interesting, The Fakemon are very cute, and I still am able to feel the joy of Pokemon, thumbs up

[Ooka]

This looks promising, although, a few people have already reported bugs which tells me that you haven't done a lot of beta testing before the release.

[Lady Berlitz]

Wow, this hack was released very quickly. You probably got help from WAH, am I right? Since no one helped on these forums, and I've never seen this thread until it got posted!

Nice one, I hope you make some more improvements! (making the sprites have less black outline, etc.)!

[Keishii]

This looks promising, although, a few people have already reported bugs which tells me that you haven't done a lot of beta testing before the release.

But..this is the beta test :P

Please submit glitches if you find them. That's what betas are for.


I found quite an annoying bug >.>
When the Phantom uses his pokemon's teleport, the game freezes...

[SerenadeDS]

Sweet!! I saw some videos you did on YouTube. Quartz was one of my Favorite Pokemon Games!! When I knew your were doing Marble, I FREAKED. Great Job Baro!! Love it! <3 I can see you kept you Fakemon! I like your Fakemon. I cant wait to see your new pokemon! I will think of those as your 4th Gen! ^^

@Necrod - No, Baro does just about everything him self, Im sure. Thats why I love him ^^

Love it Baro! I love the Title Screen! I cant belive you put Denfrota, Bultoad, and Roellama for it! Cant wait till next Beta! Unless it will be completed next time XD. I wonder if this hack will take longer then Quartz, cause you only posted Quartz when it was complete. I love Baro's style of Hacking too, and to all those Fu**ing Idoits that.. Grr... I dont even want to get started. I think Baro's knows what I mean XD

20 years is sure along time Difference ^^
After I finish Teh Marble Beta, I think I will celebrate by playing though Quartz for Youtube. ^^

Anyway, Great Job and Good Luck Teh Baro<3



(Im not gay btw, Im just Teh Baro's #1 Fan ^.^)

[pokeguy12]

ok guys i got a problem, my covolts didn't evolve at lv10 and i found it at lv6 in the hollow woods. what happened?

[Ripper]

Pokemon Mafia? Death? Sounds like one of those great "dark" Pokemon games :)

[Dark Empoleon]

I found a kinda weird "glitch", more like a mess up >_>, in the moleman gallery a wild carvanha appeared.

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9585/wildpkmnglitch1gd7.th.png (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wildpkmnglitch1gd7.png)

My poor little scimp didn't stand a chance. :(

[pokeguy12]

hi just to warn you , in hollow woods there ARE missingno:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3272/4lvmissingnotj6.png

[Coolboyman]

Nice hack!

Things that are good:
New Pokemon look good.
New Graphics
Added events and scripting
Moletown or whatever it's called.
Great maps.
"Secrets" added in, the hentai kid's notebook was a really good idea.

Things that can be improved:
Try to mix things up a bit. It doesn't always have to be this order:
First Town where you get your starters
Route with no trainers
Town with closed GYM and mart where you get an item
Route
Forest
City with first GYM Leader and Museum
Route
Cave area

Try to make it so the player doesn't know where he/she is going next.

Another thing, try to mix the Pokemon up a bit. It's obvious which pokemon were replaced with what (Which isn't a problem), but it would be better if you went to the first route and found different "replaced" pokemon than in Route 1 Kanto. Also, try some new move sets, the mouse learning Metal claw doesn't make much sense. (Although I see the new Weedle has spark, which is good.)

Overall, this looks like its going to be a good hack, I give this a 4/5, keep it up.

[SerenadeDS]

I found a kinda weird "glitch", more like a mess up >_>, in the moleman gallery a wild carvanha appeared.

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9585/wildpkmnglitch1gd7.th.png (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wildpkmnglitch1gd7.png)

My poor little scimp didn't stand a chance. :(


I wonder why everyone always has a problem like that >_> People said that about Quartz too. It could depend on the Rom Version. FireRed Rom came out in a V1.0 and V1.1 version. Same with the Quartz. People probley had a different version of Ruby then what Baro used for the Base...

Anyway.. I haven't found anything yet, not that Im that far >_> But I will be sure to let you know ^^

[Teh Baro]

Pokeguy might have patched a non-clean rom, regarding his posts.

Coolboy man:
Yeah you are right. I was kinda lazy at the beggining, and I liked the first gym to be closed because the leader will be J.Akira and I want him to be the last leader.
From Kellygreen town in advance, it's when things get mixed. the train will take you to somewhere unexpected (it won't reach the region of MEROE as said) and then the stuff gets complicated) remember that this is just a beta, showing how is the game going to be, and the stuff I planned will show up later on.
Most pokemon have different movesets, and although I sticked to the original pokedex sometimes. Actually, although first route has bird/mouse, that "mouse" is actually a ground type armadillo. It would be equivalent to pidgey/sandshrew instead of pidgey/rattata, although armorito replaces pikachu and rattata was replaced with bubel (and both have new movesets BTW). I put armorito in first route because it's the most likely common pokemon I could find.
Another example: Ninjice replaces oddish, but it doesn't evolve, it's normal-type and it's moveset was repointed to smeargle's and edited so it has 4 sketchs... wait, something's wrong here, OH MY BAD that WON'T WORK well I'll fix it (I'll make it learn each 5 levels or something... nevermind, I said nothing.




Dark empoleon:
Where exactly in the mole galleries have you found it? I can't find it and AM shows the right pokemons... have you patched a clean rom?

Oh and BTW Scimp wouldn't stand achance against many pokemon... it's as weak as a magikarp (if I remember right, even weaker)




PS: BTW, Went, you that have skipped phantom with the gameshark... found anything else?

[pokeguy12]

sorry its clean and you need to edit the pokemon icons in your inventory

[Teh Baro]

sorry its clean and you need to edit the pokemon icons in your inventory
1- either you have another version of the rom or I doubt that it's clean. I found no missignos (and I played through hollow woods), carvanhas or that stuff and I looked. Also, covolts evolves at level 12. At level 10, gusvolts evolves into covolts

2- I already said (at least in the readme.txt) that the icons are in the TODO list, and I won't get into them until I make all the pokemon, at least the 151 first

______________


Also, I've just fixed
· the rival bug (the script on teh right had an extra command [this happens for recycling existing scripts >_<] that replaced the event) BTW: command 0x63 0xAA 0xXXXX 0xYYYY where A is the person event number, and X and Y are the coordinates, is a command to replace a person event. (don't remember if A was 1 or 2 bytes)

·THE PHANTOM script. A wrong pointer in the last movement, so it pointed to a random sequence of bytes and crashed. Now it spins and dissappears as it was supposed to do in the beggining.

·The texts. put a dot instead of a comma in the shop and MADE the sign in the exit of the galleries (my bad, I forgot it. What you saw there was the script at 0x000000).

Waiting for more glitches support and setting background musics, and a fixed beta will be released soon.

[pokeguy12]

ok fine but what should i do with the phantom? it just freezes the game....

[Teh Baro]

ok fine but what should i do with the phantom? it just freezes the game....

Read my previous post. (And if you wish, Went's post when he reported it)

I'm sorry about that, it is a bug that has been fixed... so in a few days (it can even be tonight, or tomorrow) I'll post the fixed version.
So the best thing you can do is save right before the battle and wait.

(-_-)''' Apologies for any inconveniences
/_ _\




PS: Regarding carvanha and the missingno's hex index. I insist that it might be because of not clean roms that had pokemon from the third generation in these zones, so when patching, only the first byte of the pokemon data was replaced (patches just copy differences between roms) but the second (a 01) wasn't. Carvanha is 14a and geodude 4a so that makes sense. I wasted time looking for them in hollow woods and the galleries and haven't found them (and I even found RAKA, the rarest pokemon to find in hollow woods). thanks anyway

If anyone else finds it, please tell me please, though.

[Went]

Oh, yes, I have just found this in the second battle with the rival:

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/8378/weirdspritedm8.png

You have a problem with the rival battles >.<

[Teh Baro]

Oh, yes, I have just found this in the second battle with the rival:

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/8378/weirdspritedm8.png

You have a problem with the rival battles >.<
Done and gone. Just a mistake choosing the sprite. Probably I didn't see it because I just couldn't play it three times, with each starter. Thanks again.

[SSJ4 Furatman]

Wow! Baro this is looking even better than Quartz, I hope you'll be able to finish it.
Good luck.

[Teh Baro]

Wow! Baro this is looking even better than Quartz, I hope you'll be able to finish it.
Good luck.
Regarding a quartz walkthrough with pics I saw in a certain forum, this is 1000 times better than quartz consideering I finish it and the stuff I have planned works and that kind of stuff. Thanks ^_^

also, something I haven't noticed before
Pokemon Mafia? Death? Sounds like one of those great "dark" Pokemon games

SPOILER ALERT (you have been warned)
Actually the pokemon mafie will be a yakuza that will help glass army and the death thing is because they all are pursuing the eternal life, stop ageing.
But yeah, this is more mystery themed: the phantom's identity, how is all the stuff that happens related, etc.

[Kyber-Groudon]

First off, let me say that I absolutely loved quartz. Interesting story, decent sprites (mostly, some I have to admit were a little iffy...) you get the picture.

Second, I can hardly wait for this to be finished. It's so awesome, but I'll be patient. I know how long these can take.

Keep up Teh Good work.

[Nytkoi]

Omg awesome job!Ive played all of your gMES AND
LOVE THEM BOTH!Nice job!The pokemon have good design,just not good
spriteing

[zel 2.0]

Well Baro, as I told you, I'm gonna hold till I start to see more stuff in the game and less problems as well (I want to get a good impression, and you'll have enough people helping you detecting bugs :P)

I'm not that amazed on the new pokes graphics, just because there's another hack with better new pokes, and well, you lose in that area. But, since I know how you like doing that all by yourself, I still think I must praise your work. Anyway, the idea of new pokes is not just about its graphics, it's more about new strategies, which basically, that's what a RPG is for :)

I just hope your sense of humor (which was one of the things that I really enjoyed from Quartz) is still present in this hack (watch out man, there are kids around... ;P)

Alright, wishing you good luck on the project. I'm sure you'll be able to finish it no matter what. Keep it up!

[Teh Baro]

I have already fixed the stuff and put the music, but I'm afraid there's a big error that will delay the fixed version. Some events I made (doug, baro giving the running shoes, etc) disappear when they happen, but if you save the game (using the game saving system, not the emulator's savestates as I always use?) reappear when you load the game.

I'm figuring why does this happen, but my intuition says it's because of the flag numbers (maybe a set of flags are reseted when you load the game?). I hope it's that because that's the first thing I'm going to try... and if it works, the job will be done FAST.

[TheKingofKings]

I just played, its a very good game. Good job

[zel 2.0]

Most likely is the flag thing you mention. I remember having the same problem with the Rockets events at Goldenrod, and a quick change of flags solved the problem.

Well, hope you don't have to change many scripts.

[Teh Baro]

Most likely is the flag thing you mention. I remember having the same problem with the Rockets events at Goldenrod, and a quick change of flags solved the problem.

Well, hope you don't have to change many scripts.

Yep. Looks like in order to kill events, triggers need flags over 4000 and people less than 1000.
I already fixed one (out of 5), and fixing the others depends on how long I take to reach each event.

BTW, I just noticed armorito's back sprite is too high. If you see other backs with wrong height, plese report them. This happens because most pokemon were meant to replace others in the beggining.

[Sergio--]

Dont worry abour those little fails.

Well comrade, a lot of luck with this project and a lot of hacking-years-without-giving-ups for the author.

Ah!
The moleman caves was really amazing with those connections puzzles.

[Teh Baro]

Bumped.
Because BETA 1.1 is OUT
Here (http://wah.studiopokemon.com/hr/hr.php#marble)
Bugs fixed, etc. Keep reporting stuff if any.

First post was updated too.

You may need to reload the map (exit and enter) if you're in last mole galleries map (next to phantom)

[amatsu109728]

how did you name coalchu? did you know chu accually means lightning so coalchu means lightning coal, wierd
*shivers*
>_<

was'nt plug-oink in quartz how come its also in marble?

[zel 2.0]

I think the idea was making some of the old pokes of Quartz making a new appearance on Marble, which is something we should be grateful for, because some of those were really good (Plug-oink is a good example... I always laughed at that thing :laugh:)

[amatsu109728]

I think the idea was making some of the old pokes of Quartz making a new appearance on Marble, which is something we should be grateful for, because some of those were really good (Plug-oink is a good example... I always laughed at that thing :laugh:)

yeah it can plug in itself :laugh:

[Teh Baro]

how did you name coalchu? did you know chu accually means lightning so coalchu means lightning coal, wierd
*shivers*
>_<

was'nt plug-oink in quartz how come its also in marble?
I'm pretty sure Chu means mouse. Pika is lighting. Raychu=ray mouse

Also, the design of Coalchu is based on Zelda's Bombchu... which are mouse-looking bombs, not lighting bombs.



And yeah, some of the best pokemon in quartz are here.

_______
I repeat because maybe you don't notice since I said it in the last post in the 2nd page, and you'll probably load directly page 3... fixed beta (1.1) is out

[Lubricus]

This a great looking hack the story line is great.

[HiroChicken]

After watching Quartz get played by some forum friends, I am inspired to give Marble a play through. So far it's pretty fun! I think that Todad is really cute!

[ryan123456789019]

when i start the game i am cant move at all itt is all dark and on the side i can see my room also i di fix that promplem by walk though walls but when i get outside all there is is miny doors and blackness how do i fix it

[AceithCJ]

Omg,Quartz live's!
Yay!,I Wonder What J.Arkia or w/e look's like in marble,i just cant say i like the gym's,i just cant,other than that,LOVE IT BARO!!

1 more thing,like fire-red and ruby,will plugoink and them have newer,difrent sprites?

[Nytkoi]

Hey look at this userbar i made,
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z227/ataylan/BaroFan.jpg

code is http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z227/ataylan/BaroFan.jpg

[shevchenko997]

I've played the Beta version and it looks very good so far,except for some Bugs mentioned earlier.Hope you can finish this hack,I'm pretty sure it's much and much better than Pokemon Quartz.Good Luck Baro!

And I've made a userbar for you:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/FreakyDeaky_79/UserbarPokemonMarble.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/FreakyDeaky_79/UserbarPokemonMarble.jpg

[Teh Baro]

YAY! Supporters with userbars! I don't like userbars, but I'll use those for the cuteness!

Also:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/hack2_02.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/hack2_01.png
New primary tree (not perfect, but the other was $&@%)
And the secondary tree now piles up as in the old times.

[HiroChicken]

I must ask, why does Raka have Spore instead of Sleep Powder so early?

I like the character/rival designs. Definitely an improvement over Quartz. Since you put Foxy in Tangerine City, will we be seeing at some later point with her Team Foxy?

[Teh Baro]

I must ask, why does Raka have Spore instead of Sleep Powder so early?

I like the character/rival designs. Definitely an improvement over Quartz. Since you put Foxy in Tangerine City, will we be seeing at some later point with her Team Foxy?
Yeah when I fought some rakas I noticed that spore was a bit too much (i didn't knew it was so accurate). I'll change it to sleep powder in the future.

And no, foxy was just a little SA reference that won't repeat anymore. Also, most of the pokemon that were in team foxy won't be in marble.

[GodSaurus]

Hey Baro.
You may have see me in the sp forums, but I'll post in this thread because sp, specifacally the marble thread, is a total disaster (sp is not the same since the mendrax came in, and it will not be a peaceful place again until they're banned).

Anyway, I'm glad you changed the tree, this one looks cool.
But I don't like the secondary tree. It looks...odd.

Besides that, the only critic I have to make is about your maps.
They're a bit too empty, and they are pretty repetitive (they all look similar, using almost all the same tiles).

[HiroChicken]

Yeah when I fought some rakas I noticed that spore was a bit too much (i didn't knew it was so accurate). I'll change it to sleep powder in the future.

And no, foxy was just a little SA reference that won't repeat anymore. Also, most of the pokemon that were in team foxy won't be in marble.

Yeah, Spore is 100% accurate versus Sleep Powder's 70%. Spore learned in the 20s or so would be fine though.

Figured it would just be a reference, but fighting her would have been neat. Swap.Bear would be nice to have too.

[SephirothX]

Wow, so he's finally making the Kanto answer to Quartz! I can't wait to see this finished!

[Sergio--]

Woah Baro this is really great, I think your sprites has been monumentally improved.
And that tree tiles are much better.

Well, finally, now you're considering the maps graphics, and the results are pretty good.

Keep it up!

[Nytkoi]

Hey!Ive got one more userbar!
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z227/ataylan/MarbleDupport.jpg

your welcome!This is a great game!

All of my pictures are blurry beacuse i dont have
the PNG option

CODE:
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z227/ataylan/MarbleDupport.jpg

[zel 2.0]

Since I still haven't played the game, I wanted to know (from Baro or other user), if there are some Water/Dragon pokes (my favorite mixed type, as I always say), are there any? (hope they look good if there are, or at least be strong :))

Keep it up, dude!

[Teh Baro]

Since I still haven't played the game, I wanted to know (from Baro or other user), if there are some Water/Dragon pokes (my favorite mixed type, as I always say), are there any? (hope they look good if there are, or at least be strong :))

Keep it up, dude!

One of the legendaries is water/dragon. (komokume, whose sprite can be seen in the computer at laetitia's house, in grace beach). Also, progon is still there and so rubygon and sapphirgon (which is water/dragon). BTW: I might make a new evolution for progon, emeralgon or somethign like that, parodying rayquaza.
I may make some new dragon type mixes too. I like them.

[Concorde]

As I can see on the screens, there is BIG improvement. I like these trees xd
By the way, you can take my userbar if you want ;d (animationnn *_*)
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3556/supportitfc1.gif
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3556/supportitfc1.gif (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=105257)

[evilcheese]

ive played and for some reason i fought combuskens is that normal?

[Went]

Yes, that's normal if you aren't using a clean rom. Try another.

[Gamewhale]

Where do you find the ticket to Meroe?

[Teh Baro]

Where do you find the ticket to Meroe?

That's one of the events that require the use of lucky/unlucky tags.
You have to go to Laetitia's house (Grace beach) and talk to her while having the charmed tag.

One of the new things in this hack is the amulet tag and the charmed tag. some events (in beta 1.1, only one for each tag, but obviously there will be more during the game) will take place only if you have one of the tags, which you can exchange anytime in Cobaltstation city (in the ruined house).
sometimes it's not skill... it's just a matter of good or bad luck :P




Also: new screenshot:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/hack2_02-1.png

The EGG TRAIN. I hacked seagallop's animation.
I can control where you appear at the end of the special (I mean, chose it, but not to any map I want, just the eleven possible destinations that existed in FR), and I can control whether it moves to the left or to the right.
Also, hacking the background was tricky because I had to mess with raw tilemaps (with raw I mean uncompressed, as in not in unlzgba).

When I edit the map where you arive in your first trip, I'll make a video so you can see it better.

[SerenadeDS]

That's one of the events that require the use of lucky/unlucky tags.
You have to go to Laetitia's house (Grace beach) and talk to her while having the charmed tag.

One of the new things in this hack is the amulet tag and the charmed tag. some events (in beta 1.1, only one for each tag, but obviously there will be more during the game) will take place only if you have one of the tags, which you can exchange anytime in Cobaltstation city (in the ruined house).
sometimes it's not skill... it's just a matter of good or bad luck :P




Also: new screenshot:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/hack2_02-1.png

The EGG TRAIN. I hacked seagallop's animation.
I can control where you appear at the end of the special (I mean, chose it, but not to any map I want, just the eleven possible destinations that existed in FR), and I can control whether it moves to the left or to the right.
Also, hacking the background was tricky because I had to mess with raw tilemaps (with raw I mean uncompressed, as in not in unlzgba).

When I edit the map where you arive in your first trip, I'll make a video so you can see it better.

That is sweet! You impress me agian! ^^

Good Job Baro & Good Luck! I hope the game is coming along fine, cause it sure looks like it!

[zel 2.0]

JOJO! It's the Egg Train? :P

Well, nice to know that some people really want to mess up with the Seagallop's cut-scene, it ended up looking fine. Too bad you cannot control the map you'll be warped to, but I guess you already have everything you needed, anyway.

But, what's the origin of the train's name? It's pretty funny ^^

[garra911]

ha, those sprites look funny (no in a bad way) good job

[Teh Baro]

JOJO! It's the Egg Train? :P

Well, nice to know that some people really want to mess up with the Seagallop's cut-scene, it ended up looking fine. Too bad you cannot control the map you'll be warped to, but I guess you already have everything you needed, anyway.

But, what's the origin of the train's name? It's pretty funny ^^

The train's name is because when I sprited it, it looked like an squared egg or something like that. hehe. But I liked it so yeah.

Yeah, I can't control where you warp to, but that's no problem because I'm replacing the former docks with maps of inside the train. So, after the cutscene, you'll appear inside the train. Also, I'll mess with map scripts so you'll be asked if you want to stay in this station or not. the idea is the following:

(not in the first trip) The train normally goes counter-clockwise along the four regions, in this order: GARNA (north)- MEROE (west)- GASU (south) - KIEL (east)

Once you get the season voucher for the train, when you get to a station you'll be asked if you want to go in.

If so, after the cutscene, you'll warp to next station, but you'll appear in the train.

Automatically, a script will tell you in which station you are and will ask you if you want to get out here or stay until the next station

if you say YES, repeat 3 and 4. If you say NO, you can walk in the train and talk to the rest of passengers or get out (if so, you'll warp to the current region's station). you will also be able to check the windows of the train, which will run the script in step 4

[Went]

Whoa- Inside of the train! I would have never expected that! So you can't choose where you want to go? Well, at least the travel won't take too long. (Damn Fire Red and its map problems...)

[Teh Baro]

Whoa- Inside of the train! I would have never expected that! So you can't choose where you want to go? Well, at least the travel won't take too long. (Damn Fire Red and its map problems...)

It's like in a real train. Or more likely like a subway in most cities. You pay the entrance to the subway (in this case, you'll get a voucher), mount the train, and stay there until you reach the station you want to go.
In the game, it'll take more time to the user to travel, but it's more realistic.

[Link2999]

haha looks great, the only thing Im kinnda mad about is that some of it is espanol. I could probably play through the whole thing and find most of the language changes needed to be made, but I dont think it'd really be worth it. Another great game though :)

[Teh Baro]

haha looks great, the only thing Im kinnda mad about is that some of it is espanol. I could probably play through the whole thing and find most of the language changes needed to be made, but I dont think it'd really be worth it. Another great game though :)

That happened a lot in quartz, but not that much here. Actually the only spanish thing I remember here is when Baro says "¡Bravísimo! ¡Sí señor!" when you defeat the rival...
So that is actually NOT a problem.

[lanroxas]

HI Baro, I love your hacks and this beta is great!
I must say that I apologize because someone in StudioPokemon told me you wouldn't be hacking anymore so I hacked into Quartz to know about the other pokémons that you made. I was completely fanatic about Quartz that I could even get to Karendi.
I hope you continue hacking. I haven't found any bug or error in this Beta of marble but tell me... Is Laetitia the Champion or is it our Rival as it was in FireRed?

Also... Phantom's dark secret is Prof. Baro?(In the letter, Baro tells Ran(I like this name) that he has got a bigger reason for going to Garna)

[Binary]

Wow this hack is awesome and the
beta is also kool.
Cant wait for the next one

[Teh Baro]

I hope you continue hacking. I haven't found any bug or error in this Beta of marble but tell me... Is Laetitia the Champion or is it our Rival as it was in FireRed?
Making comparisons, Laetitia is the equivalent to Eusine in Cristal. She's the "legendary rival".



Also... Phantom's dark secret is Prof. Baro?(In the letter, Baro tells Ran(I like this name) that he has got a bigger reason for going to Garna)
I'm not giving spoilers :p

[zel 2.0]

haha looks great, the only thing Im kinnda mad about is that some of it is espanol. I could probably play through the whole thing and find most of the language changes needed to be made, but I dont think it'd really be worth it. Another great game though :)

Well, in my opinion is good to have some parts of Spanish in the texts. It's a good way to make more people getting interested into learning some Spanish, which wouldn't hurt :)

After all, as far as I remember, the small Spanish texts weren't really that critical and didn't affect that you couldn't understand what you had to do (mainly they were more jokes, am I right?)
(I remember Prof.Baro getting mad and cussing at that Sever for destroying his magazines XP)

[lanroxas]

So our rival is still the champion... (I dont like that...) I'd prefer Phantom (unmasked) as the Champion... or... BARO CHAN(hehe)
Also... when do Bobolo and Babola evolve? I have them at 19 and I dont know :(

[Teh Baro]

So our rival is still the champion... (I dont like that...) I'd prefer Phantom (unmasked) as the Champion... or... BARO CHAN(hehe)
Also... when do Bobolo and Babola evolve? I have them at 19 and I dont know :(

I don't know if the champion will be the rival or not.

As for bobolo and bobola... oops! I forgot to edit their evolution, so they're the same as goldeen and staryu... level 33 and water stone. Mea culpa.
Anyway, in next beta that'll be changed and it'll be at level 21.

[NekoRobin]

Those fakemons suck, not only the design but the sprites are crappy and not in pokemon style.
No offense but it's the truth.

[Sergio--]

Those fakemons suck, not only the design but the sprites are crappy and not in pokemon style.
No offense but it's the truth.

I don't think so.
Still, there are some Corna's sprites, but the most are good&new.
I specially like Tabble:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1092/tabblemy2.png

Anyway in this hack a lot of Corna's things have changed. The atmosphere is more quiet and... Hey Baro! would we find surprise-SX in Gara, too?

[lanroxas]

Yeah, these fakes don't suck! They got REEEEEAAALLLYYYYY improved from Corna ones. (I remember when Pikachu was Covolts and now Pikachu is Armorito)

FOUND A GLITCH(I think): In Cobaltsation, there is a rock in the beach, you talk to it and you get 8(eight) Max Ethers!! Baro is this a gift?

Babola and Bobolo evolve as Staryu and Goldeen... ok... but whats with Scimp? It learned DRAGON RAGE!?

[zel 2.0]

Hola Baro! Well, I decided to try the game to see how it was doing (yeah, finally :P), and seems everything is going fine. Not perfect, but as long as it is something interesting is enough.

I still have to say that I really don't like the appearance of most of your new Pokemon, but, well, it's just my own opinion, and I'm sure more people than me will like them. It was strange to be using new movesets and that, so that's what it really mattered to me with this "new Pokemon thing"

Hopefully, you'll keep improving the rest of the game with more things that we never knew about... (you, little friend of Kawa XD) So, I'm eager to know what else the future of Marble has for us. Good luck, man!

PS: Every time we cross the railroad we look both sides, it's a good touch, but, I wonder, will the train ever cross that railroad? XD

[Teh Baro]

Yeah, these fakes don't suck! They got REEEEEAAALLLYYYYY improved from Corna ones. (I remember when Pikachu was Covolts and now Pikachu is Armorito)

FOUND A GLITCH(I think): In Cobaltsation, there is a rock in the beach, you talk to it and you get 8(eight) Max Ethers!! Baro is this a gift?

Babola and Bobolo evolve as Staryu and Goldeen... ok... but whats with Scimp? It learned DRAGON RAGE!?
Scimp evolves at level 35 to a not-so-****ty dragon pokemon (expelle), so that's fine

The 8 max ethers is a glitch, because hidden items in FR work a different way, the item data is in the same place where in a segular singpost the script offset is put, so AM always saves it with an extra 08. I gotta check all maps with hidden items and edit all the 08 to 01 so you get one.


PS: Every time we cross the railroad we look both sides, it's a good touch, but, I wonder, will the train ever cross that railroad? XD
Hmmm, I gotta mess with that script again (to make the character run without glitches when using the bike), so I think I'll add something involving the random command (8F) so sometimes you'll see the train run. Anyway, that has to be after things that happen in the second beta, because the train is said to have a huge, unusual delay. That's no end-of-beta-excuse, but part of the plot.

[Went]

Oh, was it a glitch? I got another eigth pokeballs in Vanilla City. I thought you were really generous XD

[lanroxas]

YAY I have a Bultoad!! Will the starters learn the Hyper Beams? Coz Bultoad seem to have "cannon arms" if you understand...

[El Supafly]

looks very promising, loving the story!!!

[jetmagnumX]

yeah think of the egg train kew+l!!!!!!

[cpsp]

like how this is coming along! my vote 4 hack of the year (and on the last day!)

[Jvg]

Great hack! I like that Egg train:laugh: Keep up the good work

[~JV~]

It looks promising and YAY 100 posts

[Teh Baro]

It looks promising and YAY 100 posts
Double YAY for 100 posts!

Also: new videos
The egg train thing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4lALf717vw)
Infinite stairs at wist castle! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OESk54gO5o)

[Team Poison]

Double YAY for 100 posts!

Also: new videos
The egg train thing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4lALf717vw)
Infinite stairs at wist castle! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OESk54gO5o)

Teh Baro those videos are awesome expecially the Infinite Stairs!

[Mizuax]

On my game, why does mine only go to his house, i mean i can't get up the stairs and another hero is up in the sky

[Teh Baro]

On my game, why does mine only go to his house, i mean i can't get up the stairs and another hero is up in the sky
what? where? who? when? how?

[Went]

Will Bowser be the boss of that castle?

The endless stairs are just amazing (wonder how did you make them...) Well, I can only say that this is an awesome work!

[NekoRobin]

Sorry, But I really can't see how you think the fakemons are good.
The starters are uber sucky and some pokemons (most) are pillow-shaded and very wierd..

[Sinnoh_Freak]

One of the best hacks I have seen! You and Serg!o and both great hackers. I loved Pokemon Quartz and would love to see how Pokemon Marble turns out.

[Teh Baro]

Sorry, But I really can't see how you think the fakemons are good.
The starters are uber sucky and some pokemons (most) are pillow-shaded and very wierd..

It's a matter of tastes, don't need to say it twice.
For example, I looked at the ones in battle fire (because I saw it in your sig) and everybody was OH WOW at them while I honestly didn't like them. ¯\(º_0)/¯

[Sinnoh_Freak]

I like the Battle Fire sprites better although I prefer the Marble/Quartz designs.

[born2hack]

Nice one. How do you people create so many pokemon. I am zero at drawing lol.
Anyways keep it going.

[Teh Baro]

Look, some eye candy (http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3BI9kk7Co#C4z58-g4Kvc) when you find a ghost lady.

[zel 2.0]

Congrats on those three videos (specially the stairs thing, that looks weird and cool :D)

Are there any plans about how far would we reach in the next Beta? (I mean, in Badges number)

[Teh Baro]

Congrats on those three videos (specially the stairs thing, that looks weird and cool :D)

Are there any plans about how far would we reach in the next Beta? (I mean, in Badges number)

The two next badges will be very close in time, so at least 4 or 5. Maybe 6

[Went]

Four or five? Well, or the game is going to be very short, or you are going to add a lot of gyms...

[Teh Baro]

Four or five? Well, or the game is going to be very short, or you are going to add a lot of gyms...

Apart from the Garna league, there will be a kiel-gasu-meroe league with 4 more badges à la orange islands.
*Note: in my last posts, when I said 4 or five, I meant in total, so that's 2 or 3 more badges

[Jvg]

Strange Stairs, and a ghost!! I am getting scared. Your doing a great job, Go ON.

[lanroxas]

WoW Great! A ghost, infinite stairs a train that stops the middle of nowhere, a Ex-Champ that can surf through big waves
Baro eres genial!

[Dark tyranitar]

This very well, but I do not like the grass that seems repollo xD

[Binary]

WOW THIS HACK IS AWESOME!!
Cant wait for the next beta

[piplup_pryde245]

hey nice hack baro i just love you're hacks but couldn't understand sum of the spanish in quartz but other then that i liked it and keep up the good work on this hack.

peace out >_<

[Montana]

When I noticed here that Thé Baro is creating another hack I just had to sign up!

I've only just got out of Hollow Woods, but here's what I think of the game up till now:
THE GOOD
- The graphics!!! Great combination of GBA, NDS and entirely new stuff if you ask me.
- The mapping/locations!!! Truly original and even daring with maps that are way more complex than the original games, which I love, 'cause I think it gives it a more "realistic look". (natural landscapes aren't always nicely devided in real life as well)
- The level of hardness!!! Finally, a game that's actually a challenge right from the beginning! You won't believe how many times I had to head back to the PokéCenter when I was in Hollow Woods. I actually had to restart the game a couple of times because I lost :P. Like I just barely won from the girl with all the starters, then all of a sudden that frikkin' rival wants to battle, I got p0wned so hard.
- The story!!! I've only read about it, but I think that's where your true originality shines thru. Up till now I liked the hidden place in the forest (where I got p0wned by the school kid the first time as well lol)
- The mature content!!! It always makes me lol when I read stuff in your games like "Damn you!" and "I hate you!". Oh, I rofl'd reading about the hentai drawing of the school teacher.
- Some of the pokémon types combo's!!! Gusvolts electric and bug?!? Armarito's got some electric moves as well?!? Awesome!!!

THE BAD
- Nothing so far!!! Just a little remark: in Hollow Woods you can find an Antidote but it's pretty useless since none of the pokémon you can find can poison. I'd suggest you change it with a Paralyz Heal, 'cause my pokémon got paralyzed an infinite amount of times (yes, sir, p0wned again! Y'all must really think I truly s*ck)

THE UGLY
- OK, I'm not a big fan of how the starter pokémon look as well, but I really like pokémon like Beethee and Lando (hope they have cool evo's). Lando is based on one of those bags filled with seeds which you have to water so they grow "hair" (grass), right?

PS:
In Tangerine City there's this cool music with these wicked hard drums, almost like some 80's hip hop. Did you make that song or did it already exist?

By the way, I was thinking about creating like an encyclopedia for Marble, like Bulbapedia with lots of info and pics/screenshots. Anybody interested in the idea?

[Teh Baro]

This very well, but I do not like the grass that seems repollo xD
hahahaha
hahaha
lol

When I noticed here that Thé Baro is creating another hack I just had to sign up!

I've only just got out of Hollow Woods, but here's what I think of the game up till now:
THE GOOD
- The graphics!!! Great combination of GBA, NDS and entirely new stuff if you ask me.
- The mapping/locations!!! Truly original and even daring with maps that are way more complex than the original games, which I love, 'cause I think it gives it a more "realistic look". (natural landscapes aren't always nicely devided in real life as well)
- The level of hardness!!! Finally, a game that's actually a challenge right from the beginning! You won't believe how many times I had to head back to the PokéCenter when I was in Hollow Woods. I actually had to restart the game a couple of times because I lost :P. Like I just barely won from the girl with all the starters, then all of a sudden that frikkin' rival wants to battle, I got p0wned so hard.
- The story!!! I've only read about it, but I think that's where your true originality shines thru. Up till now I liked the hidden place in the forest (where I got p0wned by the school kid the first time as well lol)
- The mature content!!! It always makes me lol when I read stuff in your games like "Damn you!" and "I hate you!". Oh, I rofl'd reading about the hentai drawing of the school teacher.
- Some of the pokémon types combo's!!! Gusvolts electric and bug?!? Armarito's got some electric moves as well?!? Awesome!!!

THE BAD
- Nothing so far!!! Just a little remark: in Hollow Woods you can find an Antidote but it's pretty useless since none of the pokémon you can find can poison. I'd suggest you change it with a Paralyz Heal, 'cause my pokémon got paralyzed an infinite amount of times (yes, sir, p0wned again! Y'all must really think I truly s*ck)

THE UGLY
- OK, I'm not a big fan of how the starter pokémon look as well, but I really like pokémon like Beethee and Lando (hope they have cool evo's). Lando is based on one of those bags filled with seeds which you have to water so they grow "hair" (grass), right?

PS:
In Tangerine City there's this cool music with these wicked hard drums, almost like some 80's hip hop. Did you make that song or did it already exist?

By the way, I was thinking about creating like an encyclopedia for Marble, like Bulbapedia with lots of info and pics/screenshots. Anybody interested in the idea?

Thanks man.

Good idea changing the antidotes for paraliz heal. Didn't realize weedles are now gusvolts.

Hm? Armorito has electric moves? It wasn't supposed to (it's ground-type). thanks for reporting.

Lando is actually (like its name suggests) based in a piece of land with lawn on it. It evolves into Lawndawn, whose name is took from lawn with a homage to Martin Landau. (there's an explanation for homaging Landau, but to understand it you'd have to be Spaniard AND old enough to remember a show named El Informal). Beethe evolves in a monk-looking beetle.

[Montana]

Hm? Armorito has electric moves? It wasn't supposed to (it's ground-type). thanks for reporting.

Lando is actually (like its name suggests) based in a piece of land with lawn on it. It evolves into Lawndawn, whose name is took from lawn with a homage to Martin Landau. (there's an explanation for homaging Landau, but to understand it you'd have to be Spaniard AND old enough to remember a show named El Informal). Beethe evolves in a monk-looking beetle.

About Armorite: I thought that because his Dex entry reads:
It has small electric sacs on both his cheeks. If threatened it looses ele-

Oh, wait, I just realized that's still the entry for Pikachu. *slaps himself around*

About Lawndawn: I don't know the show, but I do know the actor from his memorable performance as Bela Lugosi in Ed Wood, one of my all-time fav movies. ;)

[Scorp Con]

Your Fakemons looks interesting,but it still need a lot of work...And your hack looks interesting,too:)

[Teh Baro]

About Armorite: I thought that because his Dex entry reads:
It has small electric sacs on both his cheeks. If threatened it looses ele-

Oh, wait, I just realized that's still the entry for Pikachu. *slaps himself around*

About Lawndawn: I don't know the show, but I do know the actor from his memorable performance as Bela Lugosi in Ed Wood, one of my all-time fav movies. ;)

Ah, so you haven't seen it performing electric movements? Fine then. Yeah, the pokedex is still not done, so that's pikachu's entry.

AS for Landau, he actor's career has actually nothing to do with it. In that show they took videos of him and did humoristic thigns dubbing them. He "presented" a section of the show called "Dr. Strange's Lab". As I said, this would make no sense if you don't know the show (which you don't, so it's pointles to talk about it)

[Went]

Lando is actually (like its name suggests) based in a piece of land with lawn on it. It evolves into Lawndawn, whose name is took from lawn with a homage to Martin Landau. (there's an explanation for homaging Landau, but to understand it you'd have to be Spaniard AND old enough to remember a show named El Informal).

OMG! You took the name from there! I was sure I remembered it from something... Wow... I love most of the names you choose *Thinks on Doctor Kayuko*

[pokenaruto]

I Have Only Played 5 Minutes And I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Nice Lab Tilesets.

[Teh Baro]

Well tomorrow I'm starting university (in another city) so you can imagine the speed the hack will have from now on.


Current progress:
former lavender town, now cyan town (home of the 3rd gym)

[zel 2.0]

Well, good luck with that, mate! We'll be waiting for some hot new info when the chance arrives.

[~Ryukaa]

Hey Great Job Baro!!,
I just wanted to say I trained my Pokemon so hard that my
Coalchu Is now a Roellama on LV38 0_o!
But my Ornlil is only on 13 HaHa!

Sorry for the double post but when are you going to
change the Pokeicons? I would really like to see them.

[Teh Baro]

Hey Great Job Baro!!,
I just wanted to say I trained my Pokemon so hard that my
Coalchu Is now a Roellama on LV38 0_o!
But my Ornlil is only on 13 HaHa!

Sorry for the double post but when are you going to
change the Pokeicons? I would really like to see them.

Your double post has been automatically merged.

I'll change the icons when I'm done with all the pokemon, at least the first 150

[lanroxas]

Do you have a set date for the next beta? I'd love to continue this game (my Scimp is diffycult to train against weak pokémons! He is 34[I know he evolves 35] also, I have a Bultoad at 36 heheh

[Lady Berlitz]

This game seems good so far.
I'll try and make some time to play this as soon as possible!

(So far, it looks awesome. Screenshots, storyline, etc.)
I've played Quartz, where I wasn't so interested, but this looks much more interesting! (no offense.)

[Teh Baro]

Do you have a set date for the next beta? I'd love to continue this game (my Scimp is diffycult to train against weak pokémons! He is 34 also, I have a Bultoad at 36 heheh
Wow, you guys train your pokemon a lot! my bultoad is level 38 but I battled many new trainers from beta 2!


On the release date thing: no, I started college so I don't know how much can I work on the hack (I have to work in the laptop, in another city, going here and there, and I don't have internet in the apartment yet). Anyways, I never plan release date, but when I have a certain amount of work done I consider releasing a beta in a few time. Your scimp must wait a lot more. Obviously, beta 1 is not planned to evolve-them-all(tm)

______________________________

Also, returning to the topic of icons, I'm considering making icons overworld-sprite-like, in front view, as in the first versions but with different sprites for each pokémon (obvioulsy).
I'll make a poll on this here (looks like I can't add a poll to the thread now, so post here)... let the people decide: front view [I](GB/GBC) or diagonal view (GBA)

[lanroxas]

;_; but scimp is sooooo cute... ;_;

[Yono]

I just started palying this hack a few minutes ago. It's pretty good! I've played Quartz, but this one looks better!

Current favorite is Todad.

[zel 2.0]

Hmmm... Front or Diagonal view? Well, it's really hard to decide, because in the end all are new pokes, so they would look original in any case.

If I'm gonna be strict about it, I'd pick "front" because there are still some pokes originally from Quartz, and since I want to make you work a bit more... :badsmile:
(But they could also be useful to you when you need to make an overworld out of one ;))

[abarai]

just tryed out the beta, really nice hack, gj :D

[Binary]

Oh just tried the beta,
the story sounds real interesting,
keep it up

[Kristian]

nice, i loved the first beta =)

[Geovanni]

personally i dont like these kind of games but good luck anyway

[joshkall]

new pokemon
looks pretty cool

[Binary]

Any updates Baro?
I hope to be seeing more,
hope you get far;)

[The Smell]

Wow! This looks really good! You should definitaly keep making it!

~Smell

[Caina]

WOW, I lve the screenies. I'll definetely play this hack. Love this game.

[BlackStar00]

Wow this hack look realy nice!!

[aleseko]

its ok i've played it its nice

[Teh Baro]

HEY LOOK NEW STUFF! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVRLNY76wOM) <-video
The third gym. Abra kadabra alakazam! The magic floats in the air and so do the platforms you're in. To go to other platforms you have to get the magicians to make bridges for you!

Also:
BTW, remember gritespec from quartz? It will evolve in marble :3
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/quiritrum.png
Quiritrum

[suchintan]

lookin forward to playin this game after im done playin a couple others...
quartz was a nice game, but in my opinion the pokemon were a little hard to catch. well whatever. gonna try this game soon

[Xiros]

wow the video is great!
really the best gym i have seen.
well good luck!

[zel 2.0]

Wow, so, it ended up looking cool the puzzles for the Gym! (A magical hat? :laugh:)
It's gonna be a bit rough for my eyes, but I guess I'll manage to survive :P

Well, keep doing all of those amazing changes Baro, I can't wait to see what's next!

Keep it up and good luck with everything.

[EDIT]: Oh, yes, I almost forgot! Does the setmaptile trick also requires something on the map's level script? (I'm guess it does...)

[destinedjagold]

wow. I really love the magic hat gym! I envy you!

I wonder how'd ya made those mazing tiles to appear... Oh well...

Keep up the great work!

[Binary]

Woah!!The video is so cool!!!
Its looking so great(i wish i could do stuff like you:D )
And the new pkmn looks great!
Cant wait for the next beta!!

[Teh Baro]

Wow, so, it ended up looking cool the puzzles for the Gym! (A magical hat? :laugh:)
It's gonna be a bit rough for my eyes, but I guess I'll manage to survive :P

Well, keep doing all of those amazing changes Baro, I can't wait to see what's next!

Keep it up and good luck with everything.

[EDIT]: Oh, yes, I almost forgot! Does the setmaptile trick also requires something on the map's level script? (I'm guess it does...)

The rules of setmaptile is that the map has to be refreshed in order to see the changes. special 0x8E does that. So, to make temporary changes, there's no need on messing with level scripts. In order to make the changes permanent, just put the setmaptiles on the level script (under the byte 01 of the script header, which is loaded before the map is loadesd, so there's no need on refreshing the map). Here, I used a single variable and the command 0x17 (addvar) to make the variable be added 1 after each trainer was beaten, and in the level script, I made the bridges load depending if the variable was >= 1, 2 or 3..



Btw: as for the animation, I recycled the lasers of the lt surge gym, if anyone's wondering.

PS: Thanks to all those positive comments!

[InKVit]

Looking absolute quality Baro, the beta was fun and the game itself looks to have a lot of potential, nice that you have intergrated alot of the quartz pokemon into the new version to add the feeling that it is like a fire red/ruby style of theme. The new starter down is good, but what is that cave for at the top?

Also, any idea when the next beta is, a few hours over the last week or so on this and ive developed my squad to the max around the local areas so that i have got;

Lvl 41 Roellama
Lvl 36 Bethin (when does this evolve?)
Lvl 36 Volateo
Lvl 35 Expelle (scimp's evolved form looks ace btw)
Lvl 15 Gallum (fishing ftw)
Lvl 21 Trukte

All good, and keep going forward with the hack m8.

[Teh Baro]

Looking absolute quality Baro, the beta was fun and the game itself looks to have a lot of potential, nice that you have intergrated alot of the quartz pokemon into the new version to add the feeling that it is like a fire red/ruby style of theme. The new starter down is good, but what is that cave for at the top?

Also, any idea when the next beta is, a few hours over the last week or so on this and ive developed my squad to the max around the local areas so that i have got;

Lvl 41 Roellama
Lvl 36 Bethin (when does this evolve?)
Lvl 36 Volateo
Lvl 35 Expelle (scimp's evolved form looks ace btw)
Lvl 15 Gallum (fishing ftw)
Lvl 21 Trukte

All good, and keep going forward with the hack m8.

That cave will be a path that will open when you have surf (since you can't reach it without surfing).
Next beta will take time since I have to attend college in another city, so the progress is slooow though constant (if we count only weekends).

Oh and bethin does not evolve. RAKA (the pokemon after bethin in the pokedex) has nothing to do with bethee and bethin. In fact you can catch it at hollow woods if you're very lucky.

[InKVit]

That cave will be a path that will open when you have surf (since you can't reach it without surfing).
Next beta will take time since I have to attend college in another city, so the progress is slooow though constant (if we count only weekends).

Oh and bethin does not evolve. RAKA (the pokemon after bethin in the pokedex) has nothing to do with bethee and bethin. In fact you can catch it at hollow woods if you're very lucky.

Arr lol, cheers for that m8, just assumed as it currently has the metapod mini sprite that it could evolve, still nice pre-evo of the powergas?

[~Hackwizard~]

WoW the Screenshots look realy good and I like the new Pokemon!!

[blueray]

This looks really cool so good luck

[Teh Baro]

>Updated first post with a link to marble's youtube playlist, so you can assure you don't miss any videos.


Also: current progress: done with cyan town. Next stop: Dr kayuko's underground lab!
Here's a confusing, lame, small, maybe misleading schemed map of garna with the current progress:

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/schememap.png
Colored letters are towns (start at B, blossom town)
Black lines and pictures is done stuff
red lines and pictures is not done stuff. (planed and placed, but not done. discontinuous lines is not planed paths)
Lines are routes and pictures are dungeons.
Circles in towns are gyms. Red: not done; black: done.
If you don't understand $%&@ don't worry much about it.

[Went]

If you don't understand $%&@ don't worry much about it.
Thanks for clearing up that, I was starting to worry.
So you have a city, 3, 4 or 5 routes, 3 or 4 dungeons and a gym to do for the next beta, don't you?

[Teh Baro]

I'll make something more. At least 2 more cities

[destinedjagold]

I got confused with the map... o_O

Oh well... I'm enjoying the game, btw! Best of luck! ;)

[SonicBlazePlatinum]

Baro I like the Garna map! Is cut avalible in Beta 2? Also, what type of pokemon does Cyan gym leder use? Is it Ghost/Psychic or is it magic pokemon? Finally what type is Chansey's pokemon?(the pokemon used by the last trainer in the gym?) Well that's all i have to tell you. See you later!

[Teh Baro]

Baro I like the Garna map! Is cut avalible in Beta 2? Also, what type of pokemon does Cyan gym leder use? Is it Ghost/Psychic or is it magic pokemon? Finally what type is Chansey's pokemon?(the pokemon used by the last trainer in the gym?) Well that's all i have to tell you. See you later!

psychic. Although first trainer uses a ghost pokémon (vogoo)

[ZephyrPlusle]

First of all, let me say that I am loving this hack. ^^ It is supremely excellent in every way a hack should be, plus a bit nostalgic as well as I see how Kanto is changed but yet is still essentially the same. I love the ideas you've applied to it, especially the Molehills and the inn and the occasional cell phone call. I'm at the second gym now and I can't wait to see more! :D

However, there is one thing that continues to bug me as I play the hack, and that's the Pokemon sprites. The overworlds are great, but the sprites of the Pokemon show lots of basic mistakes. A pity, too, because the designs are actually quite good (I love the ratattareplacement... what's it called again? It's awesomely designed, but the sprite itself is a bit of a letdown.

Anyhow, I'm really looking forward to the next beta! Keep up the good work! ^^

[SonicBlazePlatinum]

psychic. Although first trainer uses a ghost pokémon (vogoo)

Thank you for telling me that Baro.(Is it okay if i call you Baro?) You're very kind,and your one of my favorite hackers(Besides Zel,Seg!o,and Coolboyman.)I just got done with Beta 1.1,and i have a Roellama,and I forgot the level,but I have a Plug-Oink.Well that's all,see you later!

[pkmnmaster69]

Well teh baro your definly not gonna like this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Must-see-4-pokemon-GBA-games-leafgreen-firered-ruby_W0QQitemZ300168620007QQihZ020QQcategoryZ112698QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem those stupid pirates are selling your game "pokemon quarts".

[Teh Baro]

Yes, actually Teh Baro is because I forgot my old account's (Baro) password.
___

Yeah I know that in the beggining I was a bit lazy changing the structure of the region, but now I'm doing more stuff.

The sprites thing... I like them. Some people love them, other people hate them. Well. It's a matter of tastes, and my stile is not ken sugimori's.


Also, the ebay thing is really old news

[~Dai-kun~]

Teh Baro..you are almost..no scratch that the best hacker..you have some awesome scripts,maps,sprites(though I don't like the ghost sprite),tilesets etc. I will really want to play the full version of this hack..but I can be patient while I wait for my hack to catch up to Shiny Gold,Liquid Ocean,Rocket's Revenge...But I will never exceed you.(My brain lacks the mass logic you can have) 'Cause I'm a 12 year-old! But back to the subject good job. If you need ideas, sprites, or banners I can make some for you.

[Binary]

I love your sprites Baro ;)
And im really confused with the map :D
And pkmnmaster69, thats a spam, and so old news o_0
Anyways cant wait for more updates and the next beta :)

[Dragoon]

Hey Baro this hack is great!
I nearly got deafeated by my rival the 2nd time
lucky I patched Firered386!
I caught a Bulbasaur in that forest I had
Charmeleon Lv29
Ivysaur Lv26
(sorry I forgot the Marble pokemon names!)
Anyway This hack is great
cant wait for next beta

[~!Fuddmeyer!~]

Nice hack, I played Pokemon Quartz and it was great, this one looks promising too.

[mathewhack2]

You script very well I saw the videos.

[cooley]

Baro, You should post The identity of most move types, because I dont know what is the "Hanger" thing on "ARMORITO" is.

This game is incredible!

[Teh Baro]

Baro, You should post The identity of most move types, because I dont know what is the "Hanger" thing on "ARMORITO" is.

This game is incredible!
The type symbols can be found in tangerine city pokemon center. (but thanks for commenting, because ground-type actually looks like a hanger, I'll cut it by a pixel)
Okay so here it goes. I made the symbol system because I wanted to add somethign different. Maybe I'll redraw the symbols so they look more rectangular... well:

White circle - normal
Blue drop - water
Green leaf - grass
orange flame - fire
orange lighting - electric
greenish yellow circle with horns (beetle head) - bug
pink half moon - psychic
cyan wing - flying
violet ♀-like symbol (looks like the sting badge from quartz) - poison
brown triangle (aka hanger, although it depicts a mountain) - ground
grey round thing with 4 holes - rock
dark blue face with tongue out - ghost
red punch - fighting
dark blue Ying-yang - dark
cyan snowflake- ice
light brown square - metal
orange dragon face - dragon
And ??? type is a "?"

I'm open for suggestions on symbols, they are not perfect (actually most of them just aren't good or just suck...) and so they are not definitive. And changing them is a matter of minutes since I have the pallete and offset localized in tilemolester.



Ah! I forgot: Current progress:

Ended the secret tunnel (a tunnel below dr kayuko's house, the burned house in route orange, which leads to cobaltstation park), although I still have to do the secret in it (each dungeon HAS a secret), but it'll have something to do with explosion (ah, did I menction explosion will be used as a HM? Yes it will, and it will involve a bomberman cameo! To be more exact, you'll have to battle 5 bombermen: red, green, blue, black and white)

Next stop: Cobaltstation city gym! Franz - fire-type.

[lanroxas]

I knew Explosion would be an HM for 3 reasons:
~You can't go back to the beggining city without booming some rocks in Moleman Hills
~Dive is in Firered... but has got no uses. Also you know those darkblue tiles in firered? Those were supposed to be diving tiles.
~Professor(insert name here)'s house exploded!

[lightor]

awsome!

Are you the creator of quartz?

if so, your my idol.

you inspired me to start pokemon heaven and hell

[SSJ4 Furatman]

Yeah, Baro this is looking a lot better than Quartz from what I played.

Good luck, and can't wait to see more updates from this.

[Teh Baro]

I knew Explosion would be an HM for 3 reasons:
~You can't go back to the beggining city without booming some rocks in Moleman Hills
~Dive is in Firered... but has got no uses. Also you know those darkblue tiles in firered? Those were supposed to be diving tiles.
~Professor(insert name here)'s house exploded!

-exactly. Also, a moleman says that he tried with all the usual hms, but it would take a big explosion
- I'll try to give dive some use, at least in a certain place.

-Actually that has nothing to do with that. It was not an explosion, someone just exploded his house. It's part of the story... who burned his house?

Also, it won't be fully an HM, It will be through a move tutor that doesn't stop teaching you the move explosion. (I wanted to modify the HM8, but I have no idea how to)

[lanroxas]

Something tells me that... Phatom did something related to this...

[Teh Baro]

Something tells me that... Phatom did something related to this...
Jackpot!

Also, thanks to zel I know how to edit the hm, so explosion won't be thorugh a move tutor.
Now, I'll check move tutor scripts and such and change the move that the explosion tutor teaches, and use it in a ninjice statue.

[lanroxas]

May I suggest something? FALSE SWIPE(but you'll have to edit most of pokémons...)

EDIT: You need to put some spoilers when you say those things like... Jackpot and such... people want to play and know things by themselves XD

[azn_tomato]

I have not yet played (waiting for a flash cart, i know i won't play through again...), but i was wondering if this certain pokemon from Quartz is back?
I dont remember the name but it was a electric bunny and i always thought of the energizer bunny...totally my favorite pokemon ever.

[Virtual Chatot]

Baro, I played the beta...

This is the best hack I have played in a long time. You and your workers have put a lot of work into this game.

I'll be sticking around :3

[lanroxas]

Baro... can you put Freech back? I just loved it! And Wrestmilk family too? What about your "Salamence"(cant remember name...)

[Teh Baro]

May I suggest something? FALSE SWIPE(but you'll have to edit most of pokémons...)

EDIT: You need to put some spoilers when you say those things like... Jackpot and such... people want to play and know things by themselves XD
False swipe... hmmmm
Sorry for the spoiler :p but people would just clic it. They can't refrain themselves. At least I can't. Anyways, there's a lot of more stuff to spoil on that. PS: see? you clicked!

I have not yet played (waiting for a flash cart, i know i won't play through again...), but i was wondering if this certain pokemon from Quartz is back?
I dont remember the name but it was a electric bunny and i always thought of the energizer bunny...totally my favorite pokemon ever.
Actually it WAS inspired in the energizer bunny. But I don't think it'll be on marble...

Baro... can you put Freech back? I just loved it! And Wrestmilk family too? What about your "Salamence"(cant remember name...)
... Although maybe Freech will be back. It was one of my favourites from the old ones too. But it won't be on garna. (i.e.:it'll be in the other regions, in national pokedex).

As for tenry, wrestoro and wrestmilk... hmmmmno


Baro, I played the beta...

This is the best hack I have played in a long time. You and your workers have put a lot of work into this game.

I'll be sticking around :3
My workers? :3

[Lady Berlitz]

This hack's looking great still, Teh Baro. I hope to see some more updates through the Beta's, I'll look around the thread more often too.

Good luck.

[Teh Baro]

This hack's looking great still, Teh Baro. I hope to see some more updates through the Beta's, I'll look around the thread more often too.

Good luck.

Right now I've just saved the 4th gym tileset. It'll be a factory-like place with steam pipes that will push you around (an old puzzle with a new look). When I put it to work, I'll post some pics/vids/something. But that'll be later because I g2g to the dentist now.

[Lady Berlitz]

That's cool. That reminds me of a lot of classic games I've played... especially once where ice comes out of the ground and freezes you, etc.
I can even imagine that event without a video!

[Teh Baro]

That's cool. That reminds me of a lot of classic games I've played... especially once where ice comes out of the ground and freezes you, etc.
I can even imagine that event without a video!

It's not an event itself, it's a tile behaviour that already exists. Like in Rocket Casino Basement in celadon or viridian gym. But the fact that it won't be a weird tile that magically pushes you whirling around, it's something more logical when you see it.

[Virtual Chatot]

You're doing this all by yourself? o_o;

*gives crate of rum*

[Teh Baro]

You're doing this all by yourself? o_o;

*gives crate of rum*
*accepts rum, but suggests Jose Cuervo for next time*

Yes. Same as quartz, I'm working alone. It's more work, but you don't have to argue with nobody, and you don't have to organize stuff, so the progress is faster since it's lineal.

[Link119]

hmmm...looks intresting...i havent played Quarts, so i was wondering...is every pokemon in your game new?(i mean like...not from the older batches)...

[Virtual Chatot]

*calls pub*

Amazing that you made the sprites all by yourself as well...

I have to say, I love the mapping and the storyline, its well...awesome

[Antwhan]

*crashes the pub party*

wow, baro that's quite astounding, i mean i knew u were good, but not that good...

Cheers!

[~*Pikafan*~]

Whoa, this is amazing. This and Quartz by yourself? I don't even know how you did it.

(Even though there were a few bugs in Quartz...)

I still can't believe it. After Marble is done, you've gotta show me a bunch of things you did.

[Teh Baro]

Thanks for the support guys.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/gym4b.png
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/gym4a.png
Here. Some pics from the fourth gym (no trainers yet). When you step on the steam things (which are animated, they were flowers in the original) at the end of the pipes, you get pushed in the direction of the pipe (spinning around until you hit a wall or more steam). Some of them can't be seen too well because of the fog. It's not a too complicated puzzle but it's fun when you step somewhere by mistake and you get pushed to the door of the gym (I though that would run the warp, but it doesn't. Aw... too bad. It would be fun to be kicked out of the gym).

When I put the trainers, I'll check if they can 'see' you while you are being pushed. If so, you'll be able to avoid trainers by doing this.
Edit: Tested. No. Damn. Weeeeell. ¯\(º_o)/¯

Anyway, it's a cute and funny fire-type gym with a big-.bearded fire-type leader. Enjoy.

Next TODO: edit the trainers, add the advicer (hm, in fire red's erika's gym your fan isn't there, is he afraid of girls or what?), edit the leaders and then go on to new routes.

[Coolboyman]

that seems like an awesome concept for a gym, keep up the great ideas.

[zel 2.0]

Ahaha! What a smart change, changing the arrows tiles with steam, so that it'd look as if you were pushed by the steam lol
(I guess that's how you did it, did I guess right?)

Yes, it'll be funny, and too bad we can't make the trainers battle us while we're spinning (yes, I tried this also and got the same result -_-), I don't know, would it break the puzzle to put something to interrupt the spinning? (that way you couldn't avoid the battle, though you'd stop spinning after the battle)

[Lady Berlitz]

With the steam, it's either a script that'll make you move as soon as you touch it or edited tiles of the arrows, just like the ones in the 8th gym of Kanto.

I think that'll l make a serious change throughout the game!
Now I'll play the game. Which I haven't done in the past.

[Teh Baro]

Ahaha! What a smart change, changing the arrows tiles with steam, so that it'd look as if you were pushed by the steam lol
(I guess that's how you did it, did I guess right?)

Yes, it'll be funny, and too bad we can't make the trainers battle us while we're spinning (yes, I tried this also and got the same result -_-), I don't know, would it break the puzzle to put something to interrupt the spinning? (that way you couldn't avoid the battle, though you'd stop spinning after the battle)

Well actually, more than editing the arrow tile, I made new tiles and assigned the spinning behaviour to them. The original tileset was celadon gym's.

Yeah, when you're spinning and a trainer sees you, you stop spinning (but while the trainer talks to you you keep walking ¿?)




________-

well guys I don't think I'll make much tomorrow, but next week I have a bridge (i.e.:When two non-working days are close, you don't work on the day between them. This is: thursday and saturday are holiday, therefore friday is too) so next week I'll do a lot of work on the hack. ¡Viva la constitución!

[GodSaurus]

You are doing great. In my opinion, this is one of the most ground-breaking
pokemon advance hacks yet.

One suggestion:
You should assign the ying-yang icon to the phsycic type, and give the dark type a satanic allegory (red pentagram? red demon? red trident?)

[lanroxas]

He used the Yin-Yang symbol, based on Quartz 8th Gym. Also, where is light, there is dark, in same quantities so... Yin Yang Symbol is good as it is...
I dont remember the psychic symbol but a purple whirl would be fine xD

[Teh Baro]

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/am.png
Look, I just edited something in Blossom town.

Look at the block pallete
In the upper right corner of the second tileset (under the water tiles)
It's a gym sign!
When you beat the pokemon league, a gym will appear. Baro will show you the gym and tell you that the leader is... you! You'll have random trainers challenging you. There will be a map script in every city (only in garna) where you have a chance of receiving a phone call that says that you have a challenger, and then when you go to the gym a random trainer waits for you.
Oh man, I'm inspired as hell when I'm having a shower

[BlackRainbow*]

wow thats really awesome idea. I really like the idea of gym it looks really cool

[zel 2.0]

Well Baro, it's not like the originalest idea ever (that just because I know that its something many Online Pokemon games want to do... ;P), but, well, it'll be interesting to see it working on a rom hack... Good luck implementing it!

By the way... It'll be hard to make things balanced... A Gym Leader is not supposed to ALWAYS win

[Teh Baro]

By the way... It'll be hard to make things balanced... A Gym Leader is not supposed to ALWAYS win
That's right, but this won't be the case. You'll have to defend your gym from weak trainers, so you'll have to win. If you lose, the trainer won't be there anymore (i.e.: the flags will be set before the battle) and you'll restart at tangerine city (because I ****ed up with the respawns). If I remember correctly, a type of trainerbattle accepts a message if you lose (the rival does this), so the challenger will say something like "Hurray, that's it! I got the XXX badge!" before you white out.

The level of the trainers will be approximately the same as the POKéMON league, but the chances of having a phone call with a gym battle when you enter a city will be very low (probably 1%) so it won't be a fast source of exp.

[Binary]

Wow seems like an excellent idea to me.....
But one of the wierdest ideas ever and the most new type of idea.
Sounds really good. *I would'nt mind being a gym leader XD*

~Celebi

[Went]

Great idea. I always wanted to know how being a leader is like.^^
But I suppose that there will be a limited amount of different trainers, won't it?

[Teh Baro]

Great idea. I always wanted to know how being a leader is like.^^
But I suppose that there will be a limited amount of different trainers, won't it?
Yeah, about 10 trainers or so. But they'll reappear randomly.

[PlatinumDawnFtw]

Pretty nice. I played through the beta. I liked the concept of molehills. The videos you put up are nice too. Good work!

[Virtual Chatot]

Awesome idea Baro ^_^

This hack keeps getting better and better *Glomps Turker*

[lanroxas]

-.-' baro... you posted all the map names... -.-'
its a great idea!! I always wanted to be a gym leader, since 1995 I wanted to be a gym leader... my thoughts were: Champions SUCK, GYM LEADER IS WHATS GOING ON! xD
Its a great idea!
(cant wait to see what are Blue Lands and Wistwoods)

[Prof. 9]

When you beat the pokemon league, a gym will appear. Baro will show you the gym and tell you that the leader is... you! You'll have random trainers challenging you. There will be a map script in every city (only in garna) where you have a chance of receiving a phone call that says that you have a challenger, and then when you go to the gym a random trainer waits for you.
Wow, that's awesome =D

Will we also be able to, well, change the Gym to how we like it? Like, you get to choose from a few options, and a Gym is generated from that.

How about Gym Trainers, are they going to be in? You could, let's say, recruit trainers when you've helped them with something, or maybe just any trainer xP

Good job with the hack ^^
I also played Pokémon Quartz, it was awesome, but this hack's even better =D
I LOVE the Molehills and Egg Train ^^
Btw, is it just me, or are the cities bigger than before?

[destinedjagold]

A very unique idea. Players get the chance to be a Gym Leader. How cool is that!?!

Btw Prof.., it would be difficult to do that, but if it'll be in the game, then it would be awesome! Can't wait and enjoy hacking! Wishing for the best, Teh Baro!

[~*Pikafan*~]

Where will the GYM appear? Would it be in the first town where you can't go in that GYM?

[Antwhan]

teh baro, awesome concept, can't wait to see it implemented and work out perfectly :)

props to the awesome hack standards, you've upheld for so long, and keep it it

[Teh Baro]

-.-' baro... you posted all the map names... -.-'
its a great idea!! I always wanted to be a gym leader, since 1995 I wanted to be a gym leader... my thoughts were: Champions SUCK, GYM LEADER IS WHATS GOING ON! xD
Its a great idea!
(cant wait to see what are Blue Lands and Wistwoods)
Wistwoods is the route around wist castle (in the videos) and blue lands is just the route labeled as "under construction" in the beta.
Apart from that, as you see, most of the rest of the names haven't changed yet.

Wow, that's awesome =D

Will we also be able to, well, change the Gym to how we like it? Like, you get to choose from a few options, and a Gym is generated from that.
Mmmm haven't though about it, but that's a great idea. Thanks. I'll try to do that, or somethign along those lines.


How about Gym Trainers, are they going to be in? You could, let's say, recruit trainers when you've helped them with something, or maybe just any trainer xP
Nah, just a pair of random followers. They'll be the ones that will call you when you have a challenger.

Good job with the hack ^^
I also played Pokémon Quartz, it was awesome, but this hack's even better =D
I LOVE the Molehills and Egg Train ^^
Btw, is it just me, or are the cities bigger than before?
Yes, they are a lot bigger. And one of the cities (rainbowpolis, the capital city) will be a metropolis. Really big with a lot of streets and such. If it results too big, maybe I put taxis or buses or something. If I do that, maybe I put a street/place you can only reach in taxi.
I do this because it's lame to see in the original sames things like "fuchsia city" and then there's only a couple of houses, a center and a gym.

Where will the GYM appear? Would it be in the first town where you can't go in that GYM?
No, blossom town, your home town. Look at the pic.

[SerenadeDS]

Marble is turning out to be a memorable hack already! ^_^ Well.. I like your new ideas you've got.. I will still be keeping my eye on this hack..

Good Luck Baro.

[Teh Baro]

Last progress: bombermen hideout (in the route next to cobalstation city)
Bomberman cameo. The hideout is inspired in the levels from bomberman (the way the big rocks are placed, in a 25% dither, etc)
The prize is HM08 EXPLOSION.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/bomberman1.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/bomberman2.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/bomberman3.png
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/bomberman4.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/bomberman5.pnghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/bomberman6.png

[destinedjagold]

Bomberman! :D I love that game so much! :)

And I like the battle sprites of the BMen, Teh Baro! You really amaze us all! :D

Wishing for the best and always keep it up! ;)

[Coolboyman]

Last progress: bombermen hideout (in the route next to cobalstation city)
Bomberman cameo. The hideout is inspired in the levels from bomberman (the way the big rocks are placed, in a 25% dither, etc)
The prize is HM08 EXPLOSION.

Hah, that's cool. Reminds me of my "evil organization" team too, keep up the ideas. Also Explosion as an HM sounds awesome.

[Binary]

Wow nice updates.. and bomberman? Nice idea, i love the sprites aswell.
BTW don't you want to change the OW of them.
And TM08 Explosion sounds good....i wonder what its effect is....

~Celebi

[Pamizard]

You are doing a fantastic job so far. Keep up the good work. Can't wait for the next beta

[Teh Baro]

Not a super-mega-fantastic-incredible thing, but a new thing. Remember clark the clerk? He's the guy in every shop in quartz and in marble too. (My joy/jenny parody: they all look the same, they all are clerks and they all are named clark). In quartz he used to appear as a trainer. In marble too, but the difference is that when you defeat him he'll sell you something. Not inspired on it, but when I finished it it reminded me of the deku scrubs from the zelda series.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Baro_tanuki/pokemon%20marble/clark.png

By the way that's sandy valley. A [short] desert. pokemon appear in the sand. (I couldn't emulate the effect in ruby)

[Went]

So, is he going to say "I have a potion for 400 poke-things" or will he show you a good variety of things to buy?
Really good idea, by the way.

[Teh Baro]

So, is he going to say "I have a potion for 400 poke-things" or will he show you a good variety of things to buy?
Really good idea, by the way.
Just one item. But it will be stuff that you can't find in normal shops

[zel 2.0]

It's not like HM08 Explosion is something very fair for your Pokes to use on battles (well, I don't like its effect), but whatever, we have HM Rock Smash, so... if it's needed, then it's needed :\

Everything sounds interesting, Baro. I just didn't get the part that you said you couldn't emulate the effect in Ruby (of what?)

Keep up with the good ideas!

[Teh Baro]

It's not like HM08 Explosion is something very fair for your Pokes to use on battles (well, I don't like its effect), but whatever, we have HM Rock Smash, so... if it's needed, then it's needed :\
It will have other uses, such as opening doors on caves or breaking a dam. But yeah, maybe it's exaggerated to have cut, rock smash and explosion to have similar effects... Hmmm ah I know, now I know how to edit HMs, I'll edit the hm rock smash and put something else. I'll put the explosion rocks on the rock smash rocks slots, make the explosion rocks script out of the rock smash rock (changing the badge check if it has, [haven't cheked it yet]), and think something else.
Remind me to edit the dialogues where people talk about rock smash.

EDITED: I've though about it and it would be cool to have SPIDER WEB as an HM. In some caves, you'll be able to create bridges using spider web. Also forces you to have a bug-type pokémon in your party (or to spend a lot of time in a certain route to catch a ninjice, which can learn every move.)

And yes, EXPLOSION is devastating, but also faints your POKéMON. Having unlimited explosions suggests new strategies.
Maybe I put new rules on the league so you can't take revives or max revives with you, to prevent kamikaze strategies. Are there other ways to revive a pokémon?



Everything sounds interesting, Baro. I just didn't get the part that you said you couldn't emulate the effect in Ruby (of what?)
Oh the desert tiles, where the sand is below your feet. There isn't a tile behaviour on FR that lets me emulate that.

[Coolboyman]

Maybe I put new rules on the league so you can't take revives or max revives with you, to prevent kamikaze strategies. Are there other ways to revive a pokémon?

When you use rare candy on a fainted Pokemon it revives with only 2 HP. Maybe it's not a good idea to ban all revives/max reviews, but you should let someone take a certain amount in instead (5 would be a good number).

[zel 2.0]

Ah, cool. Replacing the Rock Smash sounds great, I think everyone agrees that R.Smash is a pathetic move to have around always with you on your team. Well, let's see what you replace it with and what would become the new field effect.

Rare Candy's behaviour is that, CBM? Or was it something you invented? *intrigued*
[EDIT]: WOT? Why would I want to waste a R.Candy for reviving? I wonder if they still get their raising effect...

[Went]

*Tries* Yup, it revives the pokes O.o First notice.
There also are revival herbs, but I think that forbidding all kind of revives is kinda extreme... I agree with CBM: restrict the amount.
@Zel: It also levels the poke up. Two birds in a shoot.

[Virtual Chatot]

Ah, cool. Replacing the Rock Smash sounds great, I think everyone agrees that R.Smash is a pathetic move to have around always with you on your team. Well, let's see what you replace it with and what would become the new field effect.

Rare Candy's behaviour is that, CBM? Or was it something you invented? *intrigued*

No, that really does happen in the official games.

[Teh Baro]

When you use rare candy on a fainted Pokemon it revives with only 2 HP. Maybe it's not a good idea to ban all revives/max reviews, but you should let someone take a certain amount in instead (5 would be a good number).
Okay. I'll do that. The maximum of revival items permitted (the sum of all you have) will be 3, no candies included. (I think I have an idea on how to do that... hell of a long script).
3, because 5 if too much. Not many people uses 5 revivals in one run at the league. 3 is fair.

By the way, I edited my other post while you were posting those witty replies:
EDITED: I've though about it and it would be cool to have SPIDER WEB as an HM. In some caves, you'll be able to create bridges using spider web. Also forces you to have a bug-type pokémon in your party (or to spend a lot of time in a certain route to catch a ninjice, which can learn every move.)
It's not definitive, but looks good to me.

[Virtual Chatot]

That would actually be a pretty cool idea

[Lady Berlitz]

Spider Web as an HM? Wow, that sounds like the next beta'll be a blast! However, I'm thinking of how it should give us some use in the next beta. There's really nothing important that can be of use for a spider web... unless you've got a witty post yourself, Baro! :P

Good luck.
I'm all tangled up.
Alright, bad pun. :P

[destinedjagold]

I think a Spider Web is very useful if we want to cross around cliffs and caves and such. It creates pathways and bridges for us to cross obstacles and falls. Brilliant idea, Baro.., ya always have something to amaze us! :D

[lanroxas]

It wont be easy to make spider web an HM... you'd have to make a lot of scripts... appearing bridge, making them passable, making them disappear... etc, etc, etc... but it would be a good idea... just... which HM would go out? and... are there going to be 9 gyms as in Quartz? or more xD?

[GodSaurus]

Hey, Baro, about the gym thing: do you think there could be a way to name your badge as whatever you want? That would be cool.
About modifing your gym's look, well, I don't remember if you are able to decorate your room in FireRed, but if you are, you could use the map of the main character's room for the gym, and that way you would be able to put plants, statues or whatever in your gym.
But if you can't do that, I think you could use a script with the setmaptile comand.

[Teh Baro]

It wont be easy to make spider web an HM... you'd have to make a lot of scripts... appearing bridge, making them passable, making them disappear... etc, etc, etc... but it would be a good idea... just... which HM would go out? and... are there going to be 9 gyms as in Quartz? or more xD?
You will only be able to use spider web at certain places. and yes, that's a lot of script. And long scripts, consideering the bridges will appear tile by tile (so it has a better look). The setmaptile command (which I'll use) also sets if it's passable or not. They'll dissapear after leaving the map, though, so that's no problem.

Rock smash will go out.

There will be 8 gyms in Garna (apart from your own gym) but then there will be another league in the other regions, meroe, gasu and kiel, with another league and such. It may have about 4 gyms.

Hey, Baro, about the gym thing: do you think there could be a way to name your badge as whatever you want? That would be cool.
About modifing your gym's look, well, I don't remember if you are able to decorate your room in FireRed, but if you are, you could use the map of the main character's room for the gym, and that way you would be able to put plants, statues or whatever in your gym.
But if you can't do that, I think you could use a script with the setmaptile comand.
Not possible as far as I know. I'll make it with setmaptiles.

Anyway there's still a lot of time until I do that.

[Ashman66]

Wait will J.Akria from Pokemmon Quartz?

Can you make the rival appear in a double battle with a girl who is an ex-Ambar member?

You know when I played your Pokemon Marble I used Advanced Map to get all the way to the End of game! I put 2 rivals in the game. The second rival stole the last remaing pokemon from Baro's lab

[Teh Baro]

Wait will J.Akria from Pokemmon Quartz?

Can you make the rival appear in a double battle with a girl who is an ex-Ambar member?

You know when I played your Pokemon Marble I used Advanced Map to get all the way to the End of game! I put 2 rivals in the game. The second rival stole the last remaing pokemon from Baro's lab
Oh well wow heh hell no.

About J.Akira...
Once I edit the portable dvd (formerly known as the tv) he'll be the one teaching stuff.
Also,
He'll be the last gym leader. That's why I wanted to keep tangerine city gym closed. It was a Idea I had since the beginning. If I hadn't though about this, I wouldn't have kept the original scripts.

______
Currently:
doing more pokes. Only 16 and a half more for 151!

[red dude]

This hack rules. Maybe you could edit some of the moves. You could change growl into a move that could be like 120 power. Keep up the good work.

[Teh Baro]

That would be just plain stupid, and also I don't know of a program that can edit the attacks in FR yet (A-tack only works in ruby. Ouch), and I won't do that manually.

The only attack that I "edited" was sketch. Actually I just changed it to "quick learn", which is the same but with a different name. Ninjice (the pokemon that depicts those statues in every town) learns quick learn every time it levels up if it doesn't know it yet.

[muh316]

no offense i expected more of this game i did not enjoy alot of it (sorry) not trying to be mean

[Teh Baro]

no offense i expected more of this game i did not enjoy alot of it (sorry) not trying to be mean

What did you exactly expect, may I ask?

[Coolboyman]

What did you exactly expect, may I ask?

He posted the same crap yesterday and got his post deleted (a long with a lot of other posts with totally nonsense like this, including one in prism with the likes of "OMG DURRRRRRRRRRR U GOT NO GEWD GRAPHIX!!!!!111"

[lanroxas]

I think I found a way of naming the badge...
Baro: When prof Baro talks to the trainer, he could open a writable case(as when you catch a pokemon and want to nickname it) and name the badge, then the badge is saved in the Bag, with the name you gave it. It'll require a lot of script... but I know you can do it Baro, you're the best!