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Dr.Stiles
September 25th, 2007, 03:38 AM
empoleon @ leftovers lvl 93
stats
hp/288
attack/198
defense/207
sp.attack/232
sp.defense/201
speed/183

movelist
drill peck
surf
waterfall
hydro cannon



loppuny lvl 90
stats
hp/246
attack/178
defense/171
sp.attack/132
sp.defense/247
speed/227

moveset
ice beam
jump kick
dizzy punch
water pulse


raichu @ lechei berry lvl 100
hp/249
attack/279
defense/141
sp.attack/225
sp.defense/153
speed/273

moveset
thunder bolt
focus punch
volt tackle
substitute


blissey @ leftovers lvl 100
hp/714
attack/44
defence/88
sp.attack/154
sp.defence/370
speed/136

moveset
seismic toss
soft boiled
stealth rock
aromatherapy

gallade @ leftovers lvl 100
stats
hp/279
attack/383
defence/170
sp.attack/150
sp.defense/268
speed/250

moveset
stone edge
leaf blade
psycho cut
close combat


umbreon lvl 100
stats
hp/358
attack/163
defense/312
sp.attack/132
sp.defense/304
speed/152

moveset
mean look
toxic
faint attack
moonlight

shadow_ki6
September 25th, 2007, 03:41 AM
dont use chage beam attacks like hydro cannon, hyper beam etc..

Dr.Stiles
September 25th, 2007, 03:42 AM
ok darn lol i got to get some heart scales what should i replace them with?

shadow_ki6
September 25th, 2007, 03:46 AM
um flash cannon instead of hydro cannon and take surf off empoleon but i dont know what to replace it with....ive never used empoleon b4 XD

Dr.Stiles
September 25th, 2007, 03:48 AM
surf but i love surf lol

yay i got the flash cannon tm

hmm surf what do i replace it with????????? anyone else know?????

El Gofre
September 25th, 2007, 12:34 PM
erm i dont know much about PBR as i am in England where we dont have it yet :( any difference between PBR and Pokemon DP?

Anti
September 25th, 2007, 07:28 PM
Nononononoonnoonnonononononnonononononononono. Could somebody PLEASE tell him why this team fails? I will. Hyper beam moves suck...end. The movesets, simply put, are terrible. Lopunny fails...and EVs, not stats. I'd give you a better rate, but there are no EVs or natures posted, so yeah.

MewthreeXL
September 26th, 2007, 01:42 PM
empoleon @ leftovers lvl 93
stats
hp/288
attack/198
defense/207
sp.attack/232
sp.defense/201
speed/183

movelist
drill peck
surf
waterfall
hydro cannon



loppuny lvl 90
stats
hp/246
attack/178
defense/171
sp.attack/132
sp.defense/247
speed/227

moveset
ice beam
jump kick
dizzy punch
water pulse


raichu @ lechei berry lvl 100
hp/249
attack/279
defense/141
sp.attack/225
sp.defense/153
speed/273

moveset
thunder bolt
focus punch
volt tackle
substitute


blissey @ leftovers lvl 100
hp/714
attack/44
defence/88
sp.attack/154
sp.defence/370
speed/136

moveset
seismic toss
soft boiled
stealth rock
aromatherapy

gallade @ leftovers lvl 100
stats
hp/279
attack/383
defence/170
sp.attack/150
sp.defense/268
speed/250

moveset
stone edge
leaf blade
psycho cut
close combat


umbreon lvl 100
stats
hp/358
attack/163
defense/312
sp.attack/132
sp.defense/304
speed/152

moveset
mean look
toxic
faint attack
moonlight
That is exactly my Gallade's moveset.Empoleon is fine except for Hydro Cannon.It needs Flash Cannon and a support move.

Anti
September 26th, 2007, 08:06 PM
That is exactly my Gallade's moveset.Empoleon is fine except for Hydro Cannon.It needs Flash Cannon and a support move.

Nonononononononononononononononononononononono. First off, you have to scarf gallade to make it an attacker...and that empoleon moveset, even w/ flash cannon over hydro cannon, sucks. Waterfall lol...try:

Empoleon@Lefties
Timid
252 speed, 252 spA, 6 HP
~agility (FTW!)
~surf
~grass knot/flash cannon
~ice beam

I think that's it...but the moveset is right. Empoleon can't use drill peck at all. Who could it hurt?

Shiraishi
September 26th, 2007, 08:09 PM
Agilipoleon is so underrated...I might make one XD Why in the name of pie does Lopunny know ice beam? Never use movesets from the anime..

Anti
September 26th, 2007, 08:13 PM
Agilipoleon is so underrated...I might make one XD Why in the name of pie does Lopunny know ice beam? Never use movesets from the anime..

Uh, yeah. Never watched the anime since about halfway through may's reign...but the anime FAILS at battling. this team fails pretty much...and yeah, agiliempol...whatever the fancy name is, is SOOOO good. IT can dent a few OUers itself. Oh, for double battles, surf is bad, use something else...

Dr.Stiles
September 26th, 2007, 10:21 PM
Agilipoleon is so underrated...I might make one XD Why in the name of pie does Lopunny know ice beam? Never use movesets from the anime..
XD lol mi didnt teach that lopunny ice beam i got it from someone else what should i replace it with?

Uh, yeah. Never watched the anime since about halfway through may's reign...but the anime FAILS at battling. this team fails pretty much...and yeah, agiliempol...whatever the fancy name is, is SOOOO good. IT can dent a few OUers itself. Oh, for double battles, surf is bad, use something else...

ok thanks everyone for yer help =D

Anti
September 26th, 2007, 10:22 PM
You shouldn't get rid of ice beam on lopunny...100% serious. Also 100% serious, GET RID of lopunny, and also, EV train the pokemon...or you WILL get obliterated...just the facts of battling.

Shiraishi
September 26th, 2007, 10:23 PM
Eh, That Blissey's def is horrible..Thats gonna get OHKOd by Vire o_o

Dr.Stiles
September 26th, 2007, 10:26 PM
You shouldn't get rid of ice beam on lopunny...100% serious. Also 100% serious, GET RID of lopunny, and also, EV train the pokemon...or you WILL get obliterated...just the facts of battling.

well the thing is...idk how to ev train XD

Eh, That Blissey's def is horrible..Thats gonna get OHKOd by Vire o_o

ehhh so i guess id have to breed a new happiny and try to ev train it??? lol

Shiraishi
September 26th, 2007, 10:27 PM
You realize there is a EV training guide in the D/P section right?

Anti
September 26th, 2007, 10:28 PM
There's nothing to "lol" about. Learn to EV train. There are more EV guides online than uses of the phrase "lol," so you'll find one.

Blissey@Leftovers
Bold
252 Defense, 252 HP, 6 SpD
~Aromatherapy
~Seismic Toss
~Thunder Wave
~Softboiled

Use this...please. And blissey NEEDS good IVs to survive.

EDIT: you can use the guide Cakekun just pointed out.

Dr.Stiles
September 26th, 2007, 10:28 PM
You realize there is a EV training guide in the D/P section right?

*bangs head against wall* really how long has it been up lol

Anti
September 26th, 2007, 10:29 PM
No attack moves on umbreon...read up on competitive battling while you're at it...that'll help a truckload.

Sora_8920
September 26th, 2007, 10:30 PM
Eh, That Blissey's def is horrible..Thats gonna get OHKOd by Vire o_o

Not if it has maxed defense. Also, people usually decide to breed for 714/130. With Max defense and hp in both Ev's and Iv's.

Anti
September 26th, 2007, 10:32 PM
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Not if it has maxed defense. Also, people usually decide to breed for 714/130. With Max defense and hp in both Ev's and Iv's.

True, but his ISN'T EV trained...AKA fails...its stats are poor.

Dr.Stiles
September 26th, 2007, 10:34 PM
No attack moves on umbreon...read up on competitive battling while you're at it...that'll help a truckload.
whaaaaa????? no attack moves what im i supposed to do with it?
let it get pulvirised in battle?


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Not if it has maxed defense. Also, people usually decide to breed for 714/130. With Max defense and hp in both Ev's and Iv's.

errrrmmmm...what are ivs?

Sora_8920
September 26th, 2007, 10:37 PM
True, but his ISN'T EV trained...AKA fails...its stats are poor.

Very true. If you do decide to at least Ev train, make sure it has at least 500 ev's to survive in competitive play. But just don't go over 510. http://serebii.net/pokedex-dp/hp.shtml

Anti
September 26th, 2007, 10:38 PM
whaaaaa????? no attack moves what im i supposed to do with it?
let it get pulvirised in battle?




errrrmmmm...what are ivs?

I can't help but lol at that. You obviously have no idea about COMPETITIVE battling, not just beating the E4 or whatever you beat in PBR...umbreon is a trap BPer...bad use of an unexisting term, but it BPs mean look to get favorable matchups. Umbreon has 60 BASE SPECIAL ATTACK and 65 BASE ATTACK! That is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY low to use attack moves...and read up about IVs too.

Dr.Stiles
September 26th, 2007, 10:40 PM
I can't help but lol at that. You obviously have no idea about COMPETITIVE battling, not just beating the E4 or whatever you beat in PBR...umbreon is a trap BPer...bad use of an unexisting term, but it BPs mean look to get favorable matchups. Umbreon has 60 BASE SPECIAL ATTACK and 65 BASE ATTACK! That is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY low to use attack moves...and read up about IVs too.

ok



uhm...is there anything good bout my team?

Iceman3k
September 26th, 2007, 10:42 PM
*grabs wrench, hammer, screwdriver, and all kinds of other power tools from the toolbox*
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empoleon @ leftovers lvl 93

movelist
Agility
surf
Grass Knot
Ice Beam



loppuny lvl 90

moveset
Return
Switcheroo
Focus Punch
Fake Out
I'll deal with Lopunny later

raichu @ Leftovers lvl 100

moveset
Grass Knot
focus punch
Thunderbolt
substitute
Deal with this one later too

blissey @ leftovers lvl 100

moveset
seismic toss
soft boiled
stealth rock
aromatherapy

gallade @ Choice Scarf lvl 100

moveset
stone edge
leaf blade
psycho cut
close combat


umbreon lvl 100
stats

moveset
mean look
Wish
Baton Pass
Protect

Somebody needs to turn you onto Competitive Play, and FAST.

Anti
September 26th, 2007, 10:42 PM
ok



uhm...is there anything good bout my team?

I am strictly honest with people, even if that means sounding kind of mean...no. Nothing is good about your team. Any decent competitive team would eat it for breakfast and still be VERY hungry...so yeah, 1st off, EV train...

EDIT: And yeah, listen to Iceman3k...PLEASE.

Dr.Stiles
September 26th, 2007, 10:43 PM
*grabs wrench, hammer, screwdriver, and all kinds of other power tools from the toolbox*
=/

Somebody needs to turn you onto Competitive Play, and FAST.

uhm...ok

I am strictly honest with people, even if that means sounding kind of mean...no. Nothing is good about your team. Any decent competitive team would eat it for breakfast and still be VERY hungry...so yeah, 1st off, EV train...

EDIT: And yeah, listen to Iceman3k...PLEASE.

ok ill try my best =D

Faceless*
September 26th, 2007, 10:45 PM
No attack moves on umbreon...read up on competitive battling while you're at it...that'll help a truckload.

"GG Umbreon, I have Taunted you"

Give Umbreon at least Pursuit

Anti
September 26th, 2007, 10:46 PM
Ugh...okay...so, any plans for a new team?

EDIT: Name...umbreon CAN'T attack...it just can't. Give it substitute or something...but by all means don't make it attack. It does like, 2 HP in damage to magikarp...

Chérii
September 26th, 2007, 11:38 PM
Blissey@Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/252 DEF/4 SDEF
Stealth Rock
Thunder Wave
Seismic Toss
Softboiled

Umbreon@Leftovers
Trait: Bold
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/172 SDEF/80 DEF
Baton Pass
Mean Look
Wish
Substitute/Swagger

aragornbird
September 26th, 2007, 11:42 PM
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Don't put Stealth Rock on Blissey. Only noobs do that. I mean, if Blissey was the only Pokemon in the game that learns SR, then it would surely be a good choice. But many other Pokemon learn SR too, so leave it to them because Blissey has no room to be using it.

Also, Substitute and Swagger on Umbreon? Yeah right. Taunt is way better, at least it stops phazers.

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Anti
September 26th, 2007, 11:59 PM
That and blissey makes a great heal beller (or aromatherapist I guess in her case). It can take hits, heal with softboiled, and yeah, is the most OU wall, basically ever (chansey in R/B/Y). Don't forget, umbreon can learn curse as an egg move. Depends on your team, but some pokemon benifit greatly from it.