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Toothache
June 20th, 2004, 11:46 AM
Yeah, I'm new to the site, so I wondering what all these apparently 'unmentionable' Pokemon are... and why are they unmentionable?

Kabutops
June 20th, 2004, 12:51 PM
unmentionables are like the very good at being hard to beat pokemon
Frostweaver is the expert on them though. :P especially Unmentionable Sn / B

Toothache
June 20th, 2004, 01:38 PM
Yeah, but what are the abbreviations, like Sn, B, etc? :-p That was really my main question...

Chairman Kaga
June 20th, 2004, 02:13 PM
I did it once before today, I'll mention the unmentionables again :P

From what I've learned, unmentionable-s is skarmory, unmentionable-b is blissey, and unmentionable-w is weezing...I think there are a couple others though o_O;;

I really don't know why they're unmentionable though, I guess they're the bane of the existance of the technical poke-battler...but for the casual pokemon player like me, they just seem like regular pokemon I guess *shrug*

Kabutops
June 20th, 2004, 03:35 PM
I did it once before today, I'll mention the unmentionables again :P

From what I've learned, unmentionable-s is skarmory, unmentionable-b is blissey, and unmentionable-w is weezing...I think there are a couple others though o_O;;

I really don't know why they're unmentionable though, I guess they're the bane of the existance of the technical poke-battler...but for the casual pokemon player like me, they just seem like regular pokemon I guess *shrug*
i thought Sk was skarmory and Sn was Snorlax

Toothache
June 20th, 2004, 03:35 PM
Er, why Skarmory? I love my Skarmory, admittedly was a bugger to try and catch... L16 it was, finally got it, 1 Ultraball and 10 Greatballs later (note it wasn't the Ultra Ball that caught it). And it is nice but does have it's weaknesses...

I'm a huge Skarmory fan... so what gives?

Timbjerr
June 20th, 2004, 05:14 PM
"unmentionable", in the term that Frostweaver uses it, means that the pokemon has the stats and movepool to be unbeatable. I'm no big expert on all that.

The only unmwntionable pokemon I know of are Skarmory (for its speed and effective use of flying-type attacks I guess), Snorlax (for it's defense and effective use of Curse), Blissey (for its massive HP and recovery abilities otherwise)

Toothache
June 20th, 2004, 05:18 PM
Skarmory isn't the quickest pokemon, and it does have weakness to Electric and Fire moves, so it's not exactly superior, yeah it has nice defence, but not so great on the offence...

Snorlax, yes he's a damage sponge, but a good Fighting type can take care of him (especially when you use Focus Punch). As for the Curse tactic, well that's something I never thought of, and probably never gonna use anyway...

Blissey, never bothered to train one up cos of it's sucky stats, but the recovery/high HP does give it an advantage in staying power..

Goes to prove that all pokemon do have their uses, even if they are annoying...

Timbjerr
June 20th, 2004, 05:24 PM
meh...same here, I never worry about what competitive battlers tell me. The only person I link up and battle with is my brother, and he thinks any attack that doesn't do damage is useless.

I tend to keep to myself and train casual play pokemon (such as Crobat with Poison Fang, Fly, Confuse Ray, Double Team)

Toothache
June 20th, 2004, 05:43 PM
Been considering working on a Gligar since I've just caught one on Colliseum... and my Sneasel is pretty nice too...

Kabutops
June 20th, 2004, 06:39 PM
Goes to prove that all pokemon do have their uses, even if they are annoying...
well one annoying pokemon i think is useless is.... dun dun di dunnnnnn!
ZUBAT

Jeremy
June 20th, 2004, 06:43 PM
I thought every Pokmon had a weakness... :P
Unless it's a Dark/Ghost Pokmon with the Wonder Gauard ability.

Flygon trainer
June 20th, 2004, 09:19 PM
Here is a pokemon that should be an unmentionable, if it isn't already: Ludicolo. if you don't know why, I will be happy to explain..

Frostweaver
June 20th, 2004, 09:46 PM
Nah... Ludicolo is still beatable, and certainly not enough to be in the ranks of the other mega-OUs. (but certainly OU though). Being weak to poison and flying, it's still beatable. Plus it really doesn't resist anything but water and ground. Taunting Gyarados kills it nicely. You can even beat one with brute force... I used a Porygon2 to beat one when both of them are full health by continously using thunderbolt and occassional recovers, even if he got leech seed on me o.o; (lol then again I stole rain dish so I can healed as well)

This is a property that the other unmentionables do not share. You can't beat a Unmentionable B or Sn even if you continously launch a special attack at it. Only medicham can really continously use a physical attack to take down the flying Unmentionable Sk. Unmentionable W is weaker in physical defense compare to its flying brother, but it got the power to burn you to reduce your attack in half to make up for the lower defense, making evne a Zangoose's STAB double edge do a 10% dmg only... (and using one against a Ludicolo is equal to 50%... see the difference in scariness?)

Flygon trainer
June 20th, 2004, 10:01 PM
The evil of Ludicolo: Rain dance, Leech seed, Giga Drain, and Surf. and holding leftovers. evil at it's best.

Iveechan
June 20th, 2004, 10:17 PM
Some people like Dive for extra stalling.

Timbjerr
June 21st, 2004, 04:46 AM
Some people like Dive for extra stalling.
me too, I like Dive, Dig, and Fly for their ability yo dodge an attack...albiet, if the opponent can use Protect/detect (and is actually smart) then you won't be able to hit anything

This happened to me today with Crobat vs. Pelliper in my Sapphire Version

HellishHades
June 21st, 2004, 06:48 AM
The evil of Ludicolo: Rain dance, Leech seed, Giga Drain, and Surf. and holding leftovers. evil at it's best.

I prefer:

Ludicolo @ Leftovers {HP+150 PhDf+180 SpDf+180} [+PhDf -PhAt]
- Seismic Toss
- Leech Seed
- Double Team
- Rain Dance

Chairman Kaga
June 21st, 2004, 08:08 AM
This kind of talk is the stuff that makes me too scared to restart my Ruby version and make a competitive team ._.;; Everything is a mysterious anagram...STAB, IV, EV, OU, it's like a different language o_O;;

Eh, I'd have no one to battle anyway even if I did try my hardest...

IceKitten
June 21st, 2004, 12:36 PM
Ludicolo also has Bug weakness, it has 3 altogether

Kairi
June 21st, 2004, 12:56 PM
me too, I like Dive, Dig, and Fly for their ability yo dodge an attack...albiet, if the opponent can use Protect/detect (and is actually smart) then you won't be able to hit anything

This happened to me today with Crobat vs. Pelliper in my Sapphire VersionOr could switch, or could use a stat upper in the case of Fly, Sky Uppercut/Thunder, in the case of Dig, Earthquakegreat moves. >_>;

Frostweaver
June 21st, 2004, 01:32 PM
only problem with using dive is that sub/protect will destroy that, while they stat buff up on the turn you go diving... If it's really a stalling one with protect/dive/seed/one attack, then you can keep switching (if there's no spike) to fend off the seed, making 3 of its move useless. Sub can easily block leech seed as well... The greatest thing regarding Ludicolo is that poison/flying weakness, which is STAB on 2 fast and scary Pokemon: Crobat and Aerodactyl.

I don't know... Ludicolo with rain dish is not as strong as when I first started playing... I trace most of them with Porygon2, and I get swift swim most of the time. Substitute is really an easy way to destroy a Ludicolo... it messes up the setup too badly, which severely nerfs Ludicolo into a weaker version of Milotic.

To me, Milotic > Ludicolo... lesser weakness, and marvel scale to make it extra annoying. Recover heals a lot more than leech seed can... so yeah, definitely more annoying.

Iveechan
June 21st, 2004, 01:50 PM
How's about a special sweeping Ludicolo with razor leaf, ice beam, and surf? Not the greatest, but it's different.

IceKitten
June 22nd, 2004, 11:06 AM
Razor Leaf to sweep?

That would be quite useless in 2v2, lol

and yea.......Milotic > ludicolo ;>

Porygon
June 22nd, 2004, 11:50 AM
I thought every Pokmon had a weakness... :P
Unless it's a Dark/Ghost Pokmon with the Wonder Gauard ability.
Ahahahaha even they have severe weaknesses. Burn, poison, confuse, whatever them, and heh lol. Plus, Sandstorm. Hail. Etc, if it happens to have Recover or Mist or something. Lol.

IceKitten
June 22nd, 2004, 12:17 PM
Or Foresight/Odeur Sleuth ;P

Porygon
June 22nd, 2004, 12:27 PM
Lol, yeah. Hahaha nothing's invincible

Frostweaver
June 22nd, 2004, 03:51 PM
nothing's invincible no doubt, unless you're against a Ninjask+{insert name of physical sweeper here} and you got no hazer/psuedohazer/rock blaster, then the Ninjask team will be completely invincible pretty much.

Kairi
June 22nd, 2004, 06:14 PM
Ahh, thats why theres skarm. Lol, my friend gave her Ninjask HP electric cause of my evil team~ ^_^

Frostweaver
June 22nd, 2004, 10:35 PM
and the requirement of the above is no pseudohazer ;p It's perfectly fine to fight a Unmentionable-S if it can't roar =p

Lol... I thought of that one too... since there's extra EVs to spare, Ninjask can go modest, but I was thinking of HP Fire so it can hit metas and hera as well.