Random team.

[Shiraishi]

I'm tired of having only 1 team, but I can't seem to make up another one >_< Heres what I got so far.

Milotic@Lefties**Unagi
Bold
252 def/128 Sp atk/128 HP
Surf
Ice beam
Hypnosis
Recover

Gallade@Leftovers**Kenshin
Adamant
252 Atk/16 Def/240 HP
Psycho Cut
Close combat
Night slash
Thunder wave

Thunder wave is to outspeed stuff @>@

Gliscor@Leftovers**Batman
Impish
252 HP/252 Def/4 Atk
EQ
Roost
Aerial ace/Ice fang
Stealth rock

Salamence@Focus Sash
Lonely
252 Spd/252 Atk/4 Sp atk
Dragon claw
Fire blast
DD
EQ

I still need 1 more physical sweeper and hopefully a spinner or phazer >_<

[Dark_Azelf]

Milotic@Lefties**Unagi
Bold
148 HP / 240 Def / 120 SpAtk
Surf
Ice beam
Hypnosis
Recover



changed to standard evs for that type of Milotic.

[Faceless*]

Gallade@Choice (Gallade@Choice) Scarf/Band
Trait : Steadfast
Nature : Adamant
Moves :
- Stone Edge
- Psycho Cut/Leaf Blade (Psycho Cut for Weezing, Leaf Blade for Swampert)
- Night Slash
- Close Combat

[Shiraishi]

Eh o_o I wanted mine to support my team as well as attack :/

[Faceless*]

Eh o_o I wanted mine to support my team as well as attack :/

Well, It's better suited as a sweeper than Thunder Wave XD Garchomp switches in by predicted Thunder Wave, then he obliterates you

[Iceman3k]

I'm tired of having only 1 team, but I can't seem to make up another one >_< Heres what I got so far.

Milotic@Lefties**Unagi
Bold
212 HP / 224 Def / 72 SAtk
Surf
Ice beam
Hypnosis
Recover
Much better EV Set there.

Gallade@Leftovers**Kenshin
Adamant
252 Atk/16 Def/240 HP
Psycho Cut
Close combat
Night Slash
Thunder wave

Thunder wave is to outspeed stuff @>@
Kinda needs more defense if you want to stand a chance against Garchomp, as Name said.

Gliscor@Leftovers**Batman
Impish
252 HP/252 Def/4 Atk
Earthquake
Roost
Aerial ace/Ice fang
Stealth rock

I can't think of anymore. I usually like to have a dragon physical sweeper on my team but then I get Weavile raped >_<
Dragon sweeper usually cues in Dragonite or Salamence with Yache Berry. Garchomp is workable too, but he does not get speed boost (unless you can make EVs awesome enough to withstand Weavile's Ice Punch and Salac Back;))

[Shiraishi]

Well, this is the Salamence I'm using on my current team :/

Salamence@Focus Sash
Lonely
252 Spd/252 Atk/4 Sp atk
Dragon claw
EQ
Fire blast
DD

Oopsies, forgot to add this to the team.

Porygon-Z@Salac berry
Timid
252 Spd/252 Sp atk/4 HP
Adaptability
Tri attack
Ice beam
Thunderbolt
Dark pulse

[Dark_Azelf]

Well, this is the Salamence I'm using on my current team :/

Salamence@Focus Sash
Lonely
252 Spd/252 Atk/4 Sp atk
Dragon claw
EQ
Fire blast
DD

Oopsies, forgot to add this to the team.

Porygon-Z@Salac berry
Timid
252 Spd/252 Sp atk/4 HP
Adaptability
Tri attack
Ice beam
Thunderbolt
Dark pulse

Both those look fine.

However Focus Sash and/or Nasty Plot is completely a viable option on a timid Porygon-z. If your willing to replace Dark Pulse that is.Life Orb and even Specs is a good option for the item.(obviously keep Dark Pulse for specs lol)

[Samson]

salac berry on porygon? it's not gonna kill special walls that are going to come in anyway, so you may as well try to damage them as much as you can with Choice Specs + double STAB Tri Attack.

[Shiraishi]

Yea @.@ I've never used Pory in a real competetive battle though :/ He 4 hit KOd a Blissey in PBR O_o

[Samson]

lol sounds about right.

shame that it doesn't learn taunt. it wouldn't even need speed =(

[Dark_Azelf]

On the Porygon-z ,i have another set, it may seem slightly novelty but it works rather well from my experience on shoddy battle.

Porygon-z@Life Orb
252 speed / 252 sp.att / 6 hp
Timid Nature
- Substitute
- Tri Attack
- Dark Pulse / Ice Beam / Thunderbolt
- Nasty Plot

simple, set a sub up on the switch, Nasty Plot behind sub to avoid status problems and sweep. Bear in mind that this 2hkos max hp/306 sp.def Blissey after a Nasty Plot with Tri Attack, which is always nice.

[Shiraishi]

Sadly, Pory is already EV trained and TMed. I EVd it when pokecommunity wasn't working :/

[Dark_Azelf]

Sadly, Pory is already EV trained and TMed. I EVd it when pokecommunity wasn't working :/

Mine has the exact same ev spread as yours, and the other moves are either what you currently have, Tm'ed or Heart Scaled onto it. XD


Its up to you though, its so versatile that any set given will work wonders.

[Shiraishi]

*re-looks* oh yea ._. Well, if I can get another sub TM I could do that @.@ I'm making a Jolteon for unknown reasons.

[Samson]

substitute PLUS life orb? i'm starting to feel bad for the rest of your pokes XD

[Shiraishi]

AH D: THAT WASNT MEEE D: T_T

[Samson]

XD oh sorry, i wasn't referring to you. i should've qouted his post.

[Eos Aduro]

Jolteon as a BPer? That works amazingly well.

[Richard Lynch]

This is the Milotic I use, and it works amazingly well:

Milotic @ Leftovers
Bold Nature
EVs: 84 HP, 252 Defense, 118 SpAtk, 56 SpDef
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Hypnosis/Hidden Power [Electric]
- Recover

With the EVs, you want to focus on Defense over Special Defense. Whenever you have a base HP that is actually higher than a Defense, you want to focus EVs into that Defense over HP. If that makes sense? Hypnosis is a decent team support move, but I find HP[Electric] more useful, since it surprises the hell out of a Gyarados, whom a maxed Defense Milotic counters fairly well. Resists Waterfall, and shrugs off damage from Earthquake. She also fairs well against DD Salamence and, to a slightly lesser extent, Garchomp. PLUS with maxed Defense, if you can switch her into a Thunder Wave, Toxic, or Will-O-Wisp, her Defense becomes virtually untouchable.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Yeah...I attempted to battle a paralyzed milotic with my CBmence...which di about nothing lol. N00b idea by me, I payed.

Long story short, milotic is one of the best staus absorbers around.

EDIT: IMO of course :)

[Dark_Azelf]

substitute PLUS life orb? i'm starting to feel bad for the rest of your pokes XD

Yeah i know what your thinking, but it does actually work wonders, same reason why people sometimes put Life Orb , Swords Dance and Substitute on Garchomp. My Porygon-z kinda works like that.

If youre not a fan of recoil Cakekun you can always put Wise Specs or Leftovers on it i suppose.

[Smarties-chan]

Well, It's better suited as a sweeper than Thunder Wave XD Garchomp switches in by predicted Thunder Wave, then he obliterates you
A choice Gallade phails by default since as a sweeper, Gallade is outclassed by Medicham. Gallade likes double status or Swords Dance.

[Faceless*]

A choice Gallade phails by default since as a sweeper, Gallade is outclassed by Medicham. Gallade likes double status or Swords Dance.

Gallade acts like a ScarfCross :\ Really, it just has a more diverse moveset

Medicham has no real powerful STAB moves to use like Gallade's Close Combat, it has Hi Jump Kick which is like Aqua Tail :P

If you say Gallade fails at Scarf Sweeping, then your saying Heracross, Lucario fails at Scarf sweeping

[Smarties-chan]

The only bit of extra diversity Gallade gets is Leaf Blade, which isn't too great unless you really fear Swampert. The only real reason to use Gallade is status imo, since most of its fellow Fighting types have better offensive capabilities to begin with. Besides, why would you not like to take advantage of that massive Special Defense and awesome support movepool? Gallade isn't meant to be a pure attacker. Oh, and about your Garchomp comment, it won't be happy when you predict the switch and Will-o-Wisp it instead. Imo, choice items are a huge waste of Gallade's potential. It isn't completely horrible as a Choice attacker, but the only thing it truly excels at is crippling your opponent's sweepers.

[Faceless*]

The only bit of extra diversity Gallade gets is Leaf Blade, which isn't too great unless you really fear Swampert. The only real reason to use Gallade is status imo, since most of its fellow Fighting types have better offensive capabilities to begin with. Besides, why would you not like to take advantage of that massive Special Defense and awesome support movepool? Gallade isn't meant to be a pure attacker. Oh, and about your Garchomp comment, it won't be happy when you predict the switch and Will-o-Wisp it instead. Imo, choice items are a huge waste of Gallade's potential. It isn't completely horrible as a Choice attacker, but the only thing it truly excels at is crippling your opponent's sweepers.

Gallade does NOT learn Will-o-Wisp at all. Gallade is a Heracross with more support moves. It also has Psycho Cut for Weezing, the ugliest Physical wall for my opinion. Leaf Blade should, like you said, ONLY be used if you don't have a Grass attack in your team. Choice Gallade can be easily used if you take down the opponents Physical Walls. After laying about 2 Thunder Waves and crippling the opponent's sweepers, what are you going to do when a Cleric comes out?

Since it's my opinion and your opinion, we'll keep it to ourselves :)

[Dark_Azelf]

Gallade@ Expert Belt / Life Orb / Leftovers / Choice Band
Adamant
236hp/252atk/20spd
- Psycho Cut
- Close Combat
- Night Slash
- Hypnosis / Thunder Wave / Will-O-Wisp / Stone Edge

Standard


Gallade@Leftovers
nature: Adamant
evs: 236hp/200atk/52spdef/20spd
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Psycho Cut
- Stone Edge / Thunderpunch / Night Slash

Swords Dance sweep


Gallade@Leftovers
nature: Adamant
evs: 236hp/252atk/20spd
- Thunder Wave / Will-O-Wisp
- Hypnosis
- Close Combat
- Psycho Cut / Night Slash

double status

these give it 201 speed, what does this need to outrun thats important anyway ?

EDIT:Name, Gallade learns Will-o-wisp by "Stupid TM" aka we have to breed it onto it even though it is tm and cant learn it by the tm itself.

[Faceless*]

Gallade@ Expert Belt / Life Orb / Leftovers / Choice Band
Adamant
236hp/252atk/20spd
- Psycho Cut
- Close Combat
- Night Slash
- Hypnosis / Thunder Wave / Will-O-Wisp / Stone Edge

Standard


Gallade@Leftovers
nature: Adamant
evs: 236hp/200atk/52spdef/20spd
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Psycho Cut
- Stone Edge / Thunderpunch / Night Slash

Swords Dance sweep


Gallade@Leftovers
nature: Adamant
evs: 236hp/252atk/20spd
- Thunder Wave / Will-O-Wisp
- Hypnosis
- Close Combat
- Psycho Cut / Night Slash

double status

these give it 201 speed, what does this need to outrun thats important anyway ?

SWEEEPERZZZZ LIEK SALAMEENCE ADN METAGROOSS WITH 102 EV'S IN SPEEDZORZ lol]

EDIT: Learned by Breeding and not learned as a TM... LOL

Mistaken on that part

[Smarties-chan]

Gallade does NOT learn Will-o-Wisp at all. Gallade is a Heracross with more support moves. It also has Psycho Cut for Weezing, the ugliest Physical wall for my opinion. Leaf Blade should, like you said, ONLY be used if you don't have a Grass attack in your team. Choice Gallade can be easily used if you take down the opponents Physical Walls. After laying about 2 Thunder Waves and crippling the opponent's sweepers, what are you going to do when a Cleric comes out?

Since it's my opinion and your opinion, we'll keep it to ourselves :)
Medicham learns Psycho Cut too and hurts Weezing harder. Also, Will-o-Wisp has been on Ralts' egg move list since Ruby and Sapphire and is now also available in TM form so please explain how it's impossible to get a Gallade with Will-o-Wisp?

[Faceless*]

Medicham learns Psycho Cut too and hurts Weezing harder. Also, Will-o-Wisp has been on Ralts' egg move list since Ruby and Sapphire and is now also available in TM form so please explain how it's impossible to get a Gallade with Will-o-Wisp?

Just the impossible has broken out of me, It DOESN'T learn it as a TM, but it learns it as a Breeding egg move... that is strange

[Dark_Azelf]

SWEEEPERZZZZ LIEK SALAMEENCE ADN METAGROOSS WITH 102 EV'S IN SPEEDZORZ lol


why would you keep this in on Salamence after an intimidate ?

Or why would you even send this in on a Metagross 0_o

[Faceless*]

why would you keep this in on Salamence after an intimidate ?

Or why would you even send this in on a Metagross 0_o

People send Metagross AT Gallade :P

[Dark_Azelf]

People send Metagross AT Gallade :P

i meant why would you even send/ keep this in on a metagross

anyways if they send in metagross against you, predict and either status it or swords dance and nail it.


If you want a Choice Scarf pokemon, Gallade is not what you are looking for. Just use Medicham, he does the job a lot better. Gallade is a pokemon that CAN take a hit or two and do a lot of damage in the process. Not only is it a hard pokemon to counter, it can cripple any counter with one of the many status moves it learns. Gallade is definitely not a pokemon you want to underestimate

[Faceless*]

Well, that DOES mean that Medicham is better than both Scarf Lucario and Scarf Heracross >_> Pure Power makes Medicham's attack go even higher than Rampardos! XD

Nonetheless, I'm convinced, just the experience I never had with Gallade

[MewthreeXL]

And a Pokemon with Skill Swap comes in and has a good time on Medicham.At least if it swaps Steadfast,it won't do much good.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

And a Pokemon with Skill Swap comes in and has a good time on Medicham.At least if it swaps Steadfast,it won't do much good.

Why would you want to take pure power from medicham?

[MewthreeXL]

Just to mess it up so it can't do much harm against the rest of my team.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Just to mess it up so it can't do much harm against the rest of my team.

yeah...I get that, but with choice sacrf, it'll probably OHKO your pokemon...unless it's like, skarmory, too bad it can't learn skill swap :/

[Bleach and Sunshine]

Salamence@Lum Berry
Lonely
252 Spd/252 Atk/4 Sp atk
-Dragon claw
-Flamethrower
-Dragon Dance
-Earthquake

I think Flamethrower will be helpful than Fire Blast due to accuracy. Then again...I'm not sure if Fire Blast can kill Skarm with one attack.

[. t R U T H]

Salamence@Lum Berry
Lonely
252 Spd/252 Atk/4 Sp atk
-Dragon claw
-Flamethrower
-Dragon Dance
-Earthquake

I think Flamethrower will be helpful than Fire Blast due to accuracy. Then again...I'm not sure if Fire Blast can kill Skarm with one attack.

I think Specsmence is the best.

Salamence @ Choice Specs
Trait: Intimidate
Modest Nature (+Special Attack -Attack)
- Hydro Pump
- Flamethrower
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse. Lum Berry look's novelty to me on Mence.

[Dark_Azelf]

Salamence@Lum Berry
Lonely
252 Spd/252 Atk/4 Sp atk
-Dragon claw
-Flamethrower
-Dragon Dance
-Earthquake

I think Flamethrower will be helpful than Fire Blast due to accuracy. Then again...I'm not sure if Fire Blast can kill Skarm with one attack.

Imo Fire Blast > Flamethrower and you may want to put a Life Orb on that

with Life Orb Fire Blast does:

HP Damage: 330 - 388
Damage: 98.80% - 116.17%

Without Life Orb Fire Blast does

Damage Damage: 254 - 298
Damage: 76.05% - 89.22%

this is on max EV'd HP / 0 Evs in special defense Skarmory

so id say just put Life Orb on it so you can at least get an extremely good chance of a OHKO on it.

[Shiraishi]

I only have 1 life orb :/ I wanted to make Gallade able to take some special hits because Blissey is not an option for me..

[Opie]

get aqua ring on miltic cos then u recover 1/8 hp per round

[Faceless*]

get aqua ring on miltic cos then u recover 1/8 hp per round

Leftovers does that FOR Milotic, it's a waste of moveslot

[Shiraishi]

Lmfao Name, I just noticed the thingy under your sn. *bites* :o So..it the team wi-fi worthy?>_< (Oops: Still need some more team members O_o any suggestions?)