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Xairmo
October 19th, 2007, 07:45 PM
Gengar@Wide Lens
Timid
Levitate
Evs: Sp atk 252 speed 252 hp 4
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Psychic
Hypnosis

Skarmory@Leftovers
Keen eye
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 DEF/252 HP/4 ATK
Roost
Spikes
Drill Peck
Whirlwind

Electivire@expert belt
Adamant
Motor Drive
Evs: Atk 252 speed 252 hp 4
Thunder Punch
Fire Puch
Ice Punch
Brick Break

Dragonite@leftovers
Jolly/Adamant
Inner Focus
Evs: Atk 252 speed 252 def 4
Oytrage
Thunder Punch
Fire Punch
Earthquake

Donphan@Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk
-Earthquake
-Rapid Spin
-rest
-Ice Shard


Blissey@lefties
Bold
252 HP, 252def, 6 SpD
Aromatherapy/Calm Mind
Seismic Toss/Thunderbolt
Thunder Wave/Ice beam
Softboiled

Sora_8920
October 19th, 2007, 07:56 PM
Gengar@Focus Sash
Timid
Levitate
Evs: Sp atk 252 speed 252 hp 4
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Psychic
???

Skarmory@Leftovers
Keen eye
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 DEF/252 HP/4 ATK
Roost
Spikes
Drill Peck
Whirlwind

Electivire@expert belt
Adamant
Motor Drive
Evs: Atk 252 speed 252 hp 4
Thunder Punch
Fire Puch
Ice Punch
Brick Break

Dragonite@leftovers
Jolly/Adamant
Inner Focus
Evs: Atk 252 speed 252 def 4
Oytrage
Thunder Punch
Fire Punch
Earthquake

ninjask @ focus sash
Jolly
252 speed/ 252 attack/ 6 def
x scissor
swords dance
protect
baton pass

Blissey@lefties
Bold
252 HP, 252def, 6 SpD
Aromatherapy/Calm Mind
Seismic Toss/Thunderbolt
Thunder Wave/Ice beam
Softboiled

Erm. Ghost and Psychic cover about the same thing..

Gengar @ Wide Lens
Trait: Levitate
Timid Nature
- Hypnosis
- Energy Ball/Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast.

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
Impish Nature
- Roost
- Spikes
- Whirlwind
- Hidden Power Flying. It's illegal to get both Drill Peck and Whirlwind.

Electrevire @ Focus Sash
Trait: Moor Drive
Lonely Nature
- Thunderbolt/Thunderpunch
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch
- Focus Punch. Switch it in on a Electric Attack, and this guy's a beast.

Dragonite @ Leftovers/Yache Berry
Trait: Inner Focus
Adamant/Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake. Are me and Samson the only ones who put Yache Berry as an option on Dragonite?

Blissey @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
Bold Nature
- Aromatherapy
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave
- Seismic Toss. This is the standard Bliss. Ninjask looks fine, just change 6 Def to 6 HP.

Faceless*
October 19th, 2007, 07:58 PM
No it's not, breed a Fearow with Whirlwind and Drill Peck

KingFlygon
October 19th, 2007, 08:00 PM
Gengar@Focus Sash/Wide Glasses (for hypnosis)
Timid
Levitate
Evs: Sp atk 252 speed 252 hp 4
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Hypnosis

Focus Blast has better type coverage IMO.

Skarmory@Leftovers
Keen eyeSturdy if you aren't using OHKO clause
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 DEF/252 HP/4 ATK
Roost
Spikes
Drill Peck
Whirlwind

Electivire@expert belt
Adamant
Motor Drive
Evs: Atk 252 speed 252 hp 4
Thunder Punch/Thunderbolt
Cross Chop
Ice Punch
Brick Break

Thunderbolt is a choice so you can counter SkarmBliss

Dragonite@Choice Scarf
Jolly/Adamant
Inner Focus
Evs: Atk 252 speed 252 def 4
Outrage
Thunder Punch
Fire Punch
Earthquake

Could be better, but its fine

ninjask @ focus sash
Jolly
252 speed/ 252 attack/ 6 def
x scissor
swords dance
protect
baton pass

Blissey@lefties
Bold
252 HP, 252def, 6 SpD
Aromatherapy
Seismic Toss
Thunder Wave/Ice beam
Softboiled

Calm Minda and T-bolt aren't good on Bliss. Stick to the normal set.


The Changes are in Bold. Filler

Sora_8920
October 19th, 2007, 08:01 PM
No it's not, breed a Fearow with Whirlwind and Drill Peck

Ah. I see, chain breeding. It's just that it was illegal on NB.

Dark Azelf
October 19th, 2007, 08:07 PM
Gengar@Focus Sash
Timid
Levitate
Evs: Sp atk 252 speed 252 hp 4
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Hypnosis / Hidden Power Ice

Psychic has terrible type coverage

Skarmory@Leftovers
Keen eye
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 DEF/252 HP/4 ATK
Roost
Spikes
Drill Peck
Whirlwind

good

Electivire@expert belt
Adamant
Motor Drive
Evs: Atk 252 speed 252 hp 4
Thunder Punch
Earthquake
Ice Punch
Cross Chop

Cross Chop for Tyranitar, Blissey and Weavile, also Earthquake has great coverage as you should know.


Dragonite@leftovers/Life Orb
Jolly
Inner Focus
Evs: Atk 252 speed 200 58 Hp
Outrage / Dragon Claw
Dragon Dance
Fire Punch/Thunder Punch
Earthquake

ninjask @ Leftovers
Adamant
252 speed/ 252 attack/ 6 def
x scissor
swords dance
Substitute / protect
baton pass

Adamant >> Jolly as nothing will be faster than this anyway


Blissey@lefties
Bold
252 HP, 252def, 6 SpD or Sp.Att if you use Ice beam
Aromatherapy /Ice Beam / Stealth Rock
Seismic Toss
Thunder Wave
Softboiled

chages are in bold


@Itachi Drill Peck and Whilwind is legal as Spearow and evos get Whirlwind as an egg move now lol

Pidgey > Spearow > Skarmory

Xairmo
October 19th, 2007, 08:09 PM
hmm one of the main problems im having is i cant decide if dragonite shou;d be adamant or jolly natured...

Toothache
October 19th, 2007, 08:09 PM
Yeah, that's a D/P change regarding Whirlwind + Drill Peck Skarmory, so it won't be in NB. Nonetheless nowadays that combination is legal, where as before it wasn't.

Dark Azelf
October 19th, 2007, 08:11 PM
hmm one of the main problems im having is i cant decide if dragonite shou;d be adamant or jolly natured...

Jolly, as you will outrun pokemon with base 130 speed after a single Dragon Dance. with adamant you wont.

Xairmo
October 19th, 2007, 08:13 PM
Jolly, as you will outrun pokemon with base 130 speed after a single Dragon Dance. with adamant you wont.

well i plan to yse ninjasks speed boost to dragonites advantage so if i let it speed boost a few turns then baton pass to adamant nit will it still outrun pokemon with a base speed stat of 130?

and to get drill peck and whirlwind skarm i breed pidgey with fearow the breed fearow with skarm? and does it matter which gender each one is?

Dark Azelf
October 19th, 2007, 08:20 PM
well i plan to yse ninjasks speed boost to dragonites advantage so if i let it speed boost a few turns then baton pass to adamant nit will it still outrun pokemon with a base speed stat of 130?

and to get drill peck and whirlwind skarm i breed pidgey with fearow the breed fearow with skarm? and does it matter which gender each one is?

Yeas but bear in mind if Ninjask dies due to the ever common Stealth Rock youll be in a mess.

Yes Male Pidgey/evo > Female Spearow/evo (untill you get a male spearow) then level up male spearow untill it learns Drill Peck and then breed it with a female Skarmory.

Xairmo
October 19th, 2007, 08:22 PM
Yeas but bear in mind if Ninjask dies due to the ever common Stealth Rock youll be in a mess.

Yes Male Pidgey/evo > Female Spearow/evo (untill you get a male spearow) then level up male spearow untill it learns Drill Peck and then breed it with a female Skarmory.

oh oaky, thank you very much for all of ur help everyone ^^

Anti
October 19th, 2007, 09:02 PM
Gengar@Focus Sash / Choice specs
Timid
Levitate
Evs: Sp atk 252 speed 252 hp 4
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Hypnosis / HP Ice

Psychic has horrid coverage :/

Skarmory@Leftovers
Keen eye
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 DEF/252 HP/4 ATK
Roost
Spikes
Drill Peck
Whirlwind

lol wut? No, it's fine

Electivire@expert belt
Adamant
Motor Drive
Evs: Atk 252 speed 252 hp 4
Thunder Punch
Fire Puch / EQ
Ice Punch
Cross Chop / EQ

Or you can use mixed Vire with Tbolt to beat skarm.

Dragonite@leftovers
Jolly/Adamant
Inner Focus
Evs: Atk 252 speed 252 HP 4
Outrage
Dragon dance
Fire Punch / some other physical move worth using
Earthquake

DDnite is the pwnfulness.

ninjask @ focus sash
Jolly
252 speed/ 252 attack/ 6 def
x scissor
swords dance
protect
baton pass

Ninjask is rediculously easy to counter...I mean really. But if you want...

Blissey@lefties
Bold
252 HP, 252def, 6 SpD
Aromatherapy
Seismic Toss
Thunder Wave
Softboiled

Yes.

Sup X? Nice team, editted it a bit. I'd take out ninjask and put in a rapid spinner and tank (same pokemon). That would do you good. OVerall pretty solid.

Xairmo
October 20th, 2007, 12:02 AM
Sup X? Nice team, editted it a bit. I'd take out ninjask and put in a rapid spinner and tank (same pokemon). That would do you good. OVerall pretty solid.

what would u suggest for the rapid spinner and tank?

Chérii
October 20th, 2007, 12:16 AM
Gengar@Wide Lens
Timid
Levitate
Evs: Sp atk 252 speed 252 hp 4
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Hypnosis

Ya - Wide Lens... O_O it helps Hypnosis AND Focus Blast out... xD

Skarmory@Leftovers
Keen eye
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 DEF/252 HP/4 ATK
Roost
Spikes
Drill Peck
Whirlwind

Standard XP

Electivire@expert belt
Adamant
Motor Drive
Evs: Atk 252 speed 252 hp 4
Thunder Punch
Earthquake
Ice Punch
Cross Chop

Thunderpunch and Icepunch takes care of most pokemon - Firepunch isn't the best deal.

Dragonite@leftovers
Jolly/Adamant
Inner Focus
Evs: Atk 252 speed 252 def 4
Oytrage
Thunder Punch
Dragon Dance
Earthquake

Fear DDnite >3 It multiplies ATTACK and SPEED by 1.5 which fixes up the SPEED loss.

ninjask @ focus sash
Adamant
252 speed/ 252 attack/ 6 def
x scissor
swords dance
protect
baton pass

Blissey@lefties
Bold
252 HP, 252def, 6 SpD
Stealth Rock
Seismic Toss
Thunder Wave
Softboiled

Blissey@Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Defense / 4 Special Defense
- Softboiled
- Calm Mind
- Thinderbolt
- Icebeam

is another option

Ninjask@Leftovers
Trait: Speed Boost
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
- Substitute
- X Scissor
- Baton Pass
- Swords Dance

is another option

Anti
October 20th, 2007, 12:34 AM
what would u suggest for the rapid spinner and tank?

Forretress. that would mean getting rid of skarmory, but oh well. Then all you'd need is a PHazer...I smell suicune :)

Xairmo
October 20th, 2007, 12:35 AM
Forretress. that would mean getting rid of skarmory, but oh well. Then all you'd need is a PHazer...I smell suicune :)

but i have no acces to suicune =/

Anti
October 20th, 2007, 12:36 AM
but i have no acces to suicune =/

there are hundreds of PHazers, and a few Hazers. Swampert is a nice PHazer and great overall tank.

Xairmo
October 20th, 2007, 12:37 AM
there are hundreds of PHazers, and a few Hazers. Swampert is a nice PHazer and great overall tank.

*tears* but i love my pokes
im not sure if i wanna get rid of ninjask cuz hes gonna be quite useful imo

Chérii
October 20th, 2007, 12:45 AM
Gengar is probably a PHazer since Hypnosis is most likely gonna cause a switch.

Though I wouldn't call it a real PHazer... O_O

Xairmo
October 20th, 2007, 12:47 AM
Gengar is probably a PHazer since Hypnosis is most likely gonna cause a switch.

Though I wouldn't call it a real PHazer... O_O

okay, but what about ninjask, whould i keep it or switch it?

Angelic Diablo
October 20th, 2007, 01:31 AM
Donphan is another good Tank with Rapid Spin, access to Stealth Rock, and has Ice Shard to take out some (severly weakened) rampaging dragons...

Donphan@Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk
-Earthquake
-Rapid Spin
-Stealth Rock/Stone Edge
-Ice Shard

Anti
October 20th, 2007, 01:43 AM
Donphan is another good Tank with Rapid Spin, access to Stealth Rock, and has Ice Shard to take out some (severly weakened) rampaging dragons...

Donphan@Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk
-Earthquake
-Rapid Spin
-Stealth Rock/Rapid Spin
-Ice Shard

Yeah, donphan works over Forry. Gengar isn't really a PHazer...sorta, but...

Really, I'd get rid of ninjask...why?

Foe sent out ninjask!
You send out random pokemon!

Random pokemon, return!
Go skarmory!

Ninjask used Swords Dance!
Ninjask's speed boost raised its speed!

Ninjask used baton pass!
Go marawak!

Skarmory used roar!

Tough luck...

roar breaks subs too. In other words, ninjask is rediculously easy to counter. I'd just use a tank.

Faceless*
October 20th, 2007, 01:47 AM
Ice Shard also breaks Ninjask :P

Ninjask always uses Protect first so it can get a parallel Protect on the third turn after it's Swords Dance.

I think Roar/Whirlwind is good for Ninjask, but the Ninjask can always set up the stats up again if you havent' damaged it in any sort of way (Stealth Rock is death sentence for Ninjask)

Anti
October 20th, 2007, 01:49 AM
Haze>Ninjask.
Roar>Ninjask
Whirlwind>Ninjask

Even if ninjask sets up on you after your hazer is dead, it isn't very scary since you can taunt it...or just give it a taste of attacking.

Xairmo
October 20th, 2007, 02:35 AM
so should i use the donphan that angelic diablo suggested?

Anti
October 20th, 2007, 02:36 AM
so should i use the donphan that angelic diablo suggested?

Or forretress. It doesn't really matter. Guess it depends if you want a spiker, or a STABed EQ. I prefer donphan...but it's your call.

Xairmo
October 20th, 2007, 02:38 AM
Or forretress. It doesn't really matter. Guess it depends if you want a spiker, or a STABed EQ. I prefer donphan...but it's your call.

i'll go with donphan

but i have another question

Donphan@Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk
-Earthquake
-Rapid Spin
-Stealth Rock/Rapid Spin <--should i use rapid spin or stealth rock?
-Ice Shard

Anti
October 20th, 2007, 02:41 AM
i'll go with donphan

but i have another question

Donphan@Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk
-Earthquake
-Rapid Spin
-Stealth Rock/Rapid Spin <--should i use rapid spin or stealth rock?
-Ice Shard

...you can't use rapid spin twice in the same moveset X_x

I actually would use rest. With blissey, you can use rest, switch, and heal with aromatherapy. Oh the fun.

Angelic Diablo
October 20th, 2007, 03:22 AM
Lol thought something looked weird with that set when I posted it...

Meant to be Stealth Rock/Stone Edge, fixed that now

Anti
October 20th, 2007, 04:24 AM
I prefer rest to both, since donphan can only take so many hits.

Angelic Diablo
October 20th, 2007, 07:24 AM
Wish support works nicely as well, or Leech Seeding can as well to some small effect

Faceless*
October 20th, 2007, 01:43 PM
Donphan doesn't truly need Stone Edge, hence why it has Ice Shard :P

Stealth Rock/Rest :) (to abuse the cleric)

Xairmo
October 20th, 2007, 08:20 PM
hmm sounds good ^^

well i got my dragonite to level 100 and i wanna know if i should keep it or do another so here it is:

Dragonite@Leftovers
Jolly
301 HP
341 ATK
212 DEF
185 Sp. ATK
230 Sp. DEF
264 Speed
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Thunder Punch
Outrage

Should i keep it, raise another dragonite that is adamant, and im also considering adamant Salamence?

Anti
October 20th, 2007, 08:41 PM
You know the IVs, EVs, etc. on that dragonite?

Xairmo
October 20th, 2007, 08:43 PM
You know the IVs, EVs, etc. on that dragonite?

i dont know the ivs but evs are 252 ATK, 252 Speed, and 6 HP

so should i switch for an adamant mence?

Anti
October 20th, 2007, 08:48 PM
No, DDnite is great. Fine EVs.The IVs might have been low. check metalkid's IV calculator.

Xairmo
October 20th, 2007, 08:51 PM
No, DDnite is great. Fine EVs.The IVs might have been low. check metalkid's IV calculator.

so my dragonite is okay, it will do fine in competitive play?

and what do i breed with donphan to get ice shard?

Anti
October 20th, 2007, 08:53 PM
so my dragonite is okay, it will do fine in competitive play?

and what do i breed with donphan to get ice shard?

Not sure about the breeding, but ice shard lols at ninjask :)

Dragonite should be fine as long as the IVs are okay...check them first, then get back to me...

Xairmo
October 20th, 2007, 09:01 PM
Not sure about the breeding, but ice shard lols at ninjask :)

Dragonite should be fine as long as the IVs are okay...check them first, then get back to me...

the calculator is too hard to use @.@
i is confuzzled

Anti
October 20th, 2007, 09:02 PM
Set the start to level 100, type in the EVs and stats, nature, and he pokemon you're using, and hit "calculate."

Xairmo
October 20th, 2007, 09:06 PM
Set the start to level 100, type in the EVs and stats, nature, and he pokemon you're using, and hit "calculate."

oh wait i used a different calcualtor and i think i got it to work

and it has cruddy ivs =/

not sure on hp but the rest are-
attack 5
def 5
sp atk 4
sp def 5
speed 11

=/ i think i might raise a new ddmence in its place. what do you think?

Anti
October 20th, 2007, 09:07 PM
oh wait i used a different calcualtor and i think i got it to work

and it has cruddy ivs =/

not sure on hp but the rest are-
attack 5
def 5
sp atk 4
sp def 5
speed 11

=/ i think i might raise a new ddmence in its place. what do you think?

DDnite>DDmence. If you wanna use Mence, go CBmence or specsmence IMO.

Just rebreed for a better Dnite. It'll pay off, trust me.

Xairmo
October 20th, 2007, 09:14 PM
DDnite>DDmence. If you wanna use Mence, go CBmence or specsmence IMO.

Just rebreed for a better Dnite. It'll pay off, trust me.

okay, should i still use jolly or should i use adamant?

Dark Azelf
October 20th, 2007, 09:17 PM
okay, should i still use jolly or should i use adamant?
Well its really up to preference, Adamant if you still have Jask support. However bear in mind if Jask dies, after a single Dragon Dance you wont outrun pokemon with base 130 speed with Adamant. With Jolly you will outrun those pokemon after a Dragon Dance.

Xairmo
October 20th, 2007, 09:18 PM
okay, i guess i will stick to jolly

Anti
October 20th, 2007, 09:19 PM
Yeah, go jolly. Pluss, you outrun gyarados after one DD, betcha didn't know that ;) So yeah, jolly, or HP ice jolteon pwns you :(

Dark Azelf
October 20th, 2007, 09:23 PM
okay, i guess i will stick to jolly

and slap a Life Orb or good old Leftovers on it !!

Anti
October 20th, 2007, 09:26 PM
and slap a Life Orb or good old Leftovers on it !!

I like lefties...there's always yache berry. When they send in starmie to kill you with IB, you'll have 2 turns to DD up rather than one. Dragon claw / outrage for the OHKO! If that made sense...

Xairmo
October 21st, 2007, 12:26 AM
I like lefties...there's always yache berry. When they send in starmie to kill you with IB, you'll have 2 turns to DD up rather than one. Dragon claw / outrage for the OHKO! If that made sense...

what does yache berry do? and maybe i should just keep my already trained jolly dragonite then, or is it absolutely necessary to raise a new one?

Anti
October 21st, 2007, 12:28 AM
what does yache berry do? and maybe i should just keep my already trained jolly dragonite then, or is it absolutely necessary to raise a new one?

You really needf to raise a new one, or risk HP ice jolteon to come in and splop you...whatever that means. Rebreed, jolly nature. Yache berry makes ice beam not hurt so bad.

Xairmo
October 21st, 2007, 12:39 AM
You really needf to raise a new one, or risk HP ice jolteon to come in and splop you...whatever that means. Rebreed, jolly nature. Yache berry makes ice beam not hurt so bad.

eh okay i'll raise a new one.

Anti
October 21st, 2007, 12:41 AM
Okay then...any other questions? I'd be happy to answer...

Xairmo
October 21st, 2007, 12:45 AM
Okay then...any other questions? I'd be happy to answer...

well i have two but i'll only ask one cuz i already know the answer to one. are you sure ddnite is better then ddmence? cuz mence is faster then nite , so i could have an adamant mence so yea....

Anti
October 21st, 2007, 12:47 AM
See, after 1 DD, the only things outspeeding you are ninjask (big deal) and electrode...ZOMG ELECTRODE NOOOO!!!!!! so basically, speed shouldn't be a problem...Nite is bulkier too, and makes use of outrage. I've never been a fan od DDmence...DDNITE!!!

Xairmo
October 21st, 2007, 12:49 AM
See, after 1 DD, the only things outspeeding you are ninjask (big deal) and electrode...ZOMG ELECTRODE NOOOO!!!!!! so basically, speed shouldn't be a problem...Nite is bulkier too, and makes use of outrage. I've never been a fan od DDmence...DDNITE!!!

okay then i shall stick with my ddnite.

zomg i almost betrayed my favorite poke for it's 3rd gen rip off!!!
i am so ashamed of myself

Anti
October 21st, 2007, 12:56 AM
Dragonite will help sims796 take over the world and take out the posers liek Mence.

But seriously, anything else? I'll be here all night.....

Xairmo
October 21st, 2007, 12:59 AM
Dragonite will help sims796 take over the world and take out the posers liek Mence.

But seriously, anything else? I'll be here all night.....

well here take a look at what i came up with from all the help i was given:

Gengar@Wide Lens
Timid
Levitate
Evs: Sp atk 252 speed 252 hp 4
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Energy Ball
Hypnosis

Skarmory@Leftovers
Keen eye
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 DEF/252 HP/4 ATK
Roost
Spikes
Drill Peck
Whirlwind

Electivire@expert belt
Adamant
Motor Drive
Evs: Atk 252 speed 252 hp 4
Thunder Punch
Earthquake
Ice Punch
Brick Break

Dragonite@leftovers
Jolly
Inner Focus
Evs: Atk 252 speed 252 def 4
Oytrage
Thunder Punch
Dragon Dance
Earthquake

Donphan@Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk
Earthquake
Rapid Spin
Rest
Ice Shard


Blissey@lefties
Bold
252 HP, 252def, 6 SpD
Aromatherapy
Seismic Toss
Thunder Wave
Softboiled

Faceless*
October 21st, 2007, 01:02 AM
Gengar doesn't need Psychic, it needs Focus Blast

i @m teh l337 pWnz0rz

Xairmo
October 21st, 2007, 01:02 AM
Gengar doesn't see Psychic, it needs Focus Blast

i @m teh l337 pWnz0rz

oops sorry that was a typo, i meant to put energy ball in psychics place

Anti
October 21st, 2007, 01:03 AM
well here take a look at what i came up with from all the help i was given:

Gengar@Wide Lens/focus sash
Timid
Levitate
Evs: Sp atk 252 speed 252 hp 4
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Focus blast
Hypnosis

Psychic = nonononononononononononono. Terrible coverage. focus blast is pwnage.

Skarmory@Leftovers
Keen eye
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 DEF/252 HP/4 ATK
Roost/Rest
Spikes
Drill Peck
Whirlwind

I'd go rest since bliss can cure sleep...but good.

Electivire@expert belt
Adamant
Motor Drive
Evs: Atk 252 speed 252 hp 4
Thunder Punch
Earthquake
Ice Punch
Cross Chop

Needs more cross chop.

Dragonite@leftovers
Jolly
Inner Focus
Evs: Atk 252 speed 252 def 4
Outrage
Thunder Punch /fire punch/waterfall
Dragon Dance
Earthquake

yup yup.

Donphan@Leftovers
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 6 Def, 252 Atk
Earthquake
Rapid Spin
Rest
Ice Shard

2 physical walls? More attack EVs in that case...FAR more. and adamant...now it's a physical tank

Blissey@lefties
Bold
252 HP, 252def, 6 SpD
Aromatherapy
Seismic Toss
Thunder Wave
Softboiled

Yesyesyesyesyesyesyseyseyes.

Pretty dang good. Nice job man. Lacks power though due to lack of CB blissey and croconaw, but still good :)

Dark Azelf
October 21st, 2007, 01:04 AM
well here take a look at what i came up with from all the help i was given:

Gengar@Wide Lens
Timid
Levitate
Evs: Sp atk 252 speed 252 hp 4
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Energy Ball
Hypnosis

Skarmory@Leftovers
Keen eye
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 DEF/252 HP/4 ATK
Roost
Spikes
Drill Peck
Whirlwind

Electivire@expert belt
Adamant
Motor Drive
Evs: Atk 252 speed 252 hp 4
Thunder Punch
Earthquake
Ice Punch
Cross Chop

Dragonite@leftovers
Jolly
Inner Focus
Evs: Atk 252 speed 200 hp 58
Oytrage
Thunder Punch
Dragon Dance
Earthquake

Donphan@Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk
Earthquake
Rapid Spin
Rest
Ice Shard


Blissey@lefties
Bold
252 HP, 252def, 6 SpD
Aromatherapy
Seismic Toss
Thunder Wave
Softboiled

Only a couple of errors

changes in bold-ness

Faceless*
October 21st, 2007, 01:04 AM
O My God, ALL of the Pokemanz in his team except for Electivire and Dragonite are what I have as my best team for competitive battles! j00 is teh l337 c0pyc4tz

Xairmo
October 21st, 2007, 01:06 AM
Pretty dang good. Nice job man. Lacks power though due to lack of CB blissey and croconaw, but still good :)

i dont know why ur telling me good job
you guys all pretty much came up with everything for me XDDD

Anti
October 21st, 2007, 01:06 AM
Nameless is feeling good today apparently lol

Good team though. not much else to say really. Maybe claydol over donphan? It gives you Ice Beam and EQ...and a spinner. skarmblissdol=win. every time.

Xairmo
October 21st, 2007, 01:08 AM
Nameless is feeling good today apparently lol

Good team though. not much else to say really. Maybe claydol over donphan? It gives you Ice Beam and EQ...and a spinner. skarmblissdol=win. every time.

what would you suggest as my claydol?

Anti
October 21st, 2007, 01:10 AM
Claydol @ Lefties
Levitate
EVs: 236 HP / 136 Atk / 30 SDef / rest in Def
Relaxed Nature
- EQ
- Ice beam
- Rapid spin
- rest

WIN............

Xairmo
October 21st, 2007, 01:11 AM
Claydol @ Lefties
Levitate
EVs: 236 HP / 136 Atk / 30 SDef / rest in Def
Relaxed Nature
- EQ
- Ice beam
- Rapid spin
- rest

WIN............

you suggest claydol over donphan?

Faceless*
October 21st, 2007, 01:11 AM
cl@yd0l (cl@yd0l) n33dz teh expl0si0nn f0r teh pwn4g3z f1nish w00t w00t!

Also for Blissey :P

Anti
October 21st, 2007, 01:12 AM
Yuppers...it would fit better. Now your team is lookin' good :)

EDIT: I dislike explosion on caydol...more personal preference. lol

Xairmo
October 21st, 2007, 01:14 AM
Yuppers...it would fit better. Now your team is lookin' good :)

EDIT: I dislike explosion on caydol...more personal preference. lol

okay, claydol>donphan

so now that i have claydol, how does the skarmblissdol strategy work? u already told me how to use skarmbliss but how do i use it now that i have claydol?

Faceless*
October 21st, 2007, 01:16 AM
If Infernape comes in with Grass Knot, it'll 2HKO j00 ultima3tz Cl@yd0l (Cl@yd0l).

Anti
October 21st, 2007, 01:16 AM
Claydol walls the stuff skarmbliss have trouble with, like a CBcross using close combat...skarm doesn't take that well :/ that's what claydol is for.

Xairmo
October 21st, 2007, 01:19 AM
Claydol walls the stuff skarmbliss have trouble with, like a CBcross using close combat...skarm doesn't take that well :/ that's what claydol is for.

so wen cbgross comes in switch to claydol?

Anti
October 21st, 2007, 01:20 AM
CBcross, CBgross is metagross. skarm handles it just fine. Claydol fears meteor mash :(

Xairmo
October 21st, 2007, 01:21 AM
CBcross, CBgross is metagross. skarm handles it just fine. Claydol fears meteor mash :(

now i is confuzzled @.@
ow my brain

Anti
October 21st, 2007, 01:23 AM
CBcross=heracross. Close combat claydol absorbs. watch for megahorn, but skarm absorbs it. Prediction...

CBgross=metagross. Explosion, meteor Mash, EQ, tpunch...the whole nine yards. More prediction is needed here. you get prediction skills from experience.

Xairmo
October 21st, 2007, 01:25 AM
CBcross=heracross. Close combat claydol absorbs. watch for megahorn, but skarm absorbs it. Prediction...

CBgross=metagross. Explosion, meteor Mash, EQ, tpunch...the whole nine yards. More prediction is needed here. you get prediction skills from experience.

well eq and tpunch dont affect doll soo....

Anti
October 21st, 2007, 01:27 AM
But it fears meteor mash and explosion, which skarm absorbs like candy. that's why it's such a good wall trio.

Xairmo
October 21st, 2007, 01:29 AM
But it fears meteor mash and explosion, which skarm absorbs like candy. that's why it's such a good wall trio.

oooooooh i sees, what else do i do with these three?
geez ev training all of this is gonna be such a pain >.>

Anti
October 21st, 2007, 01:30 AM
It's about 2 hours per pokemon. Don't sweat it. It'll be fine :)

Xairmo
October 21st, 2007, 01:33 AM
It's about 2 hours per pokemon. Don't sweat it. It'll be fine :)

oh geez, once im done with this team i have to start another
im gonna be raising pokes and ev training til im 60 *faints*

Anti
October 21st, 2007, 01:34 AM
lol, it'll be worth it. Soon you'll be winning battles. that's your motivation.

Faceless*
October 21st, 2007, 01:36 AM
Yeah... battle me first when you get into competitive battling O_O

Anti
October 21st, 2007, 01:37 AM
The trick is putting the pokemon to good use with prediction...whihc comes from experience. Good luck breeding you're gonna need it

Xairmo
October 21st, 2007, 01:37 AM
Yeah... battle me first when you get into competitive battling O_O

okay then, once i have my team together i shall battle you!! my first wi-fi battle...whoa

Anti
October 21st, 2007, 01:41 AM
Well, you'll be able to put your team to the test. Some advise: Switch out often, unless you don't havwe to. don't leave skarm in against raikou...be samrt with your pokemon is what I'm saying.

Faceless*
October 21st, 2007, 01:44 AM
No worries, I only have 5 Sweepers in my team

I don't use legends at all

Xairmo
October 21st, 2007, 01:51 AM
Well, you'll be able to put your team to the test. Some advise: Switch out often, unless you don't havwe to. don't leave skarm in against raikou...be samrt with your pokemon is what I'm saying.

dont worry, i'll use my pokes wisely
i shall make you proud sensei!! XD

Faceless*
October 21st, 2007, 01:53 AM
but i'll stand in your way O_O i will not make this an easy battle for you :P

Xairmo
October 21st, 2007, 01:54 AM
but i'll stand in your way O_O i will not make this an easy battle for you :P

darn now im actually gonna have to try XDD

Anti
October 21st, 2007, 01:56 AM
where is your "nonononononono" quote in your sig X? lol jk

But Name will be tough. Time to start breeding and traning...you know the everstone trick and all that?

Xairmo
October 21st, 2007, 03:04 AM
where is your "nonononononono" quote in your sig X? lol jk

But Name will be tough. Time to start breeding and traning...you know the everstone trick and all that?

i shall put that in my sig for you ^^

i think i know the everstone trick. if you give the mother an everstone, the baby has a 50% chance of having the same nature right?

Anti
October 21st, 2007, 03:50 AM
i shall put that in my sig for you ^^

i think i know the everstone trick. if you give the mother an everstone, the baby has a 50% chance of having the same nature right?

Yeah, that's it. Good luck breeding :)

Xairmo
October 21st, 2007, 06:12 AM
Yeah, that's it. Good luck breeding :)

thank you anti-pop ^^
and i promise i'll make good use of this team u pretty much put together for me ^^
and this is hecka dorky, but in a sense i consider u my sensei and i will not let you down!!