Ok... just a thought

[Johny_Hungry]

Ok, so i wanna first off state, i am still in the Fire Red age, and am workin on gettin diamond... so this is as of now... so do me a favor and suggest some Diamond moves so when i transfer over


Deoxys [attack form]
Baton Pass
Psyco Boost
Zap Cannon
Toxic

Dugtrio:
Earthquake
Magnitude
Rock Slide
Dig [?]

Jolteon:
Zap Cannon
Shock Wave
Thunder Bolt
Thunder Wave

Metagross:
Psycic
Shadow Ball
Meteor Punch [whatever that steel move is called]
Brick Break

Scyther:
Slash
Agility
Double Team
False Swipe

Tyranitar:
Crunch
Rock Slide
Hyper Beam
Earthquake



Yeah... a little outdated... to poor =[ (to afford a ds right now, along with tha game)
So yeah i would love some advice... for either different Pokemon or some different moves. I would love some pointers! Open to any new ideas especially ones that make me consider new ideas

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Since you seem open to advise, I won't yell :)

No hyper beam or any moves like it, 2 moves of the same type on 1 pokemon is never good, moves like dig and fly fail, ubers are banned from standard play.

You're gonn need to follow that from here on out :)

First thing I noticed is that your team has no walls. Perhaps add skarmbliss? Also, add EVs, antures, and items.

[Johny_Hungry]

What do you suggest to replace with Deoxys... Gengar...

I sw this one move set with him

Gengar
Substitution
Focus Punch
Fire Punch [or thunder punch]
Ice Punch

[Eos Aduro]

Yeah this team is sadly missing walls, me and Anti-Pop have done some fixin's with this situation before. Mostly, your team can't have Deoxys, and Im going to say 1 or 2 out of 3 of Dugtrio Tyranitar or Metagross have to go. Scyther not being scizor is tough, and Jolteon can be a Baton Passer or have this set.

Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
HP Ice or Water
Thunder Wave

Maybe...

And that gengar is decent i guess, but for REAL GENGAR power, its

Gengar-Focus Sash/Wide Lens
Timid
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Shadow Ball
HP Ice/Energy Ball

Thats fourth gen though...

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Yeah this team is sadly missing walls, me and Anti-Pop have done some fixin's with this situation before. Mostly, your team can't have Deoxys, and Im going to say 1 or 2 out of 3 of Dugtrio Tyranitar or Metagross have to go. Scyther not being scizor is tough, and Jolteon can be a Baton Passer or have this set.

Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
HP Ice or Water
Thunder Wave

Maybe...

And that gengar is decent i guess, but for REAL GENGAR power, its

Gengar-Focus Sash/Wide Lens
Timid
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Shadow Ball
HP Ice/Energy Ball

Thats fourth gen though...

Believe this is 3rd gen...though I'm not really sure X_X

[Eos Aduro]

If its transferable to Fourth Gen soon, then thats a good set, but if it IS thrid gen that set works.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

If you want McIceGar, you're gonna have to use HP ice over ice punch in diamond :/ Remember, gengar's punches turn physical in D/P...

[Johny_Hungry]

Ok... so i should get rid of...

Meatgross, Tyranitar, Dugtrio and Deoxys

Put in that Gengar [what do some of those moves do?]

Get scyther up to Scizor

What moves should i give him

and keep

Joleton with those moves listed bellow?

What in gods name is HP Ice/Energy Ball?

And you guys are awsome

[Eos Aduro]

Hidden Power Ice, and energy ball is 4th Gen oops. And dont get rid of Metagroos Tyrnaitar AND dugtrio, one or two of those three, I;d get rid of dugtrio and then its your choice.

[Johny_Hungry]

ok...

Dugtrio sounds expandable... I love my tyranitar... i 'member someone stating... two moves of same type is bad, along with Hyper beam...

So maybe

Tyranitar:
Ice Beam
Crunch
Rock Slide
Thunder Bolt

and the Gengar move set, what do those moves do?
Timid
Focus Blast
the others i kno...

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

TTar is a physical attacker...the only time it has special attacks is on Boah :/

or some random novelty

[Johny_Hungry]

Ok...

Crunch
ice punch
rockslide
thunder punch

maybe?

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

So this IS D/P...?

TTar @ Choice Band
Sandstream
EVs: 152 HP / 252 Atk / 104 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Stone Edge
- EQ
- Crunch
- *physical attack*

TTar can't learn the elemantal punched I don't think...

[Johny_Hungry]

I'm gettin ready for D/P...

I'm gonna have it soon

Anyways...

Alright... sounds good.

Thnx i gotta run, BBL

[Eos Aduro]

Timid is the nature, and Focus Blast is a 4th Gen speicla fighting move, it helps cover Gengars few weaknesses.

[. t R U T H]

I'll post the Tyraniboah set, since I think it works well.

Tyraniboah @ Leftovers
Trait: Sanstream
Rash Nature (+Special Attack -Attack)
- Crunch
- Thunderbolt
- Substitute
- Focus Punch.

[Britney Spears]

Ttar can learn the Elemental Punches *Dang Fire Punch on my Sceptile...*
Tyraniboah makes me drool:

Tyranitar@Leftovers
Nature: Rash (Sand Stream boosts Rock-type's Special Defense so the drop is insignificant) or Quiet if you don't want that Special Defense Drop
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 92 ATK / 164 SPATK

Crunch
Flamethrower/Thunderbolt (I personally prefer Flamethrower but the standard is Thunderbolt. Both take care of Skarmory, which is the purpose of Tyraniboah)
Focus Punch
Substitute

Skarmbliss killing bliss. =)


EDIT: Oops Itachi. We posted the same thing. Error in your's though: Rash drops Special Defense, not Attack. You're thinking of Modest.