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Angelic Diablo
October 20th, 2007, 11:21 AM
Scyther@Focus Sash
Technician
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
-X Scissor
-Aerial Ace
-Reversal
-Swords Dance
Aerial Ace is killer on this thing, thanks to Tech and STAB, reaches a BP of 135, that hurts alot that don't resist it. Scyther over Scizor, because I hate the speed drop in the evo, and plus Scyther has always been better IMO.
Reversal to take advantage off the Focus Sash. With enough speed and hopefully an SD or two, hardly anything will survive the BP 200 Reversal of doom!
Houndoom@Focus Sash
Flash Fire
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 Sp Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
-Flamethrower
-Dark Pulse
-Hidden Power Ground
-Nasty Plot
Ahh, Houndoom has been through some exciting battles in the past, some victories, some crushing defeats. But I like using favourites over OUs any day.
Kingdra@Choice Specs
Swift Swim
Modest Nature
EVs: 252 Sp Atk, 252 HP, 6 Spd
-Surf
-Draco Meteor
-Hidden Power Electric
-Dragon Pulse
This thing is so fast in rain, it doesnt even need the boost, so instead the Special Attack gets a boost through Nature & Specs, in which these things can destroy things that don't resist or have massive HP/Sp Def (Blissey grrr)
Surf and Draco Meteor are the only moves I have really used on him in battles. HP Electric to stop Gyarados who thinks he is funny. Dragon Pulse is for when Draco Meteor has run out.
Bronzong@Damp Rock
Levitate
Sassy Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 168 Def, 88 Sp Def
-Gyro Ball
-Hypnosis
-Rain Dance
-Reflect/Rest
The rain dance setter, with this thing Kingdra doesnt need to have Rain Dance in it's moveset to cause problems, thus allowing CSpecs to work on him. Split the Def EVs so that with the Nature boost, the end result is the same amount in stats.
Skarmory@Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk
-Drill Peck
-Whirlwind
-Roost
-Spikes
Blissey@Choice Band
Serene Grace
Adament Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
-Iron Tail
-Double Edge
-Earthquake
-Focus Punch
There is no power beyond that of Choice Band Blissey!!!
Blissey@Leftovers
Bold Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp Def
-Thunderwave
-Aromatherapy
-Softboiled
-Seismic Toss
Because I was lacking an idea for walls, and SkarmBliss works well together.
Another thing: Skarmory might get replaced with this
Donphan@Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk
-Earthquake
-Ice Shard
-Rapid Spin
-Rest
With this, Bronzong will have Reflect over Rest (maybe Hypnosis if I need 'Zong to survive) so that Donphan can actually take some decent hits, Rest abuse with Blissey FTW!
Bleach and Sunshine
October 20th, 2007, 12:03 PM
I believe that Scyther would be better off with a Jolly Nature for more sweeping speed. You already have Swords Dance with Sash, so you should have a good offense anyway. With Scyther max speed, you could out speed a lot of Modest natured Special Sweepers. Along with Garchomp.
Blissey@Leftovers
Bold/Modest Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp Def
-Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
-Aromatherapy
-Softboiled
-Seismic Toss
Ice Beam or Thunderbolt would provide use in more special damage.
. t R U T H
October 20th, 2007, 12:06 PM
I believe that Scyther would be better off with a Jolly Nature for more sweeping speed. You already have Swords Dance with Sash, so you should have a good offense anyway. With Scyther max speed, you could out speed a lot of Modest natured Special Sweepers. Along with Garchomp.
Blissey@Leftovers
Bold/Modest Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp Def
-Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
-Aromatherapy
-Softboiled
-Seismic Toss
Ice Beam or Thunderbolt would provide use in more special damage.
Actually, his set is the Standard. And he's meant to be a Wall, not a bolt-beamer. Thunder Wave would be more useful.
sims796
October 20th, 2007, 12:10 PM
Actually, his set is the Standard. And he's meant to be a Wall, not a bolt-beamer. Thunder Wave would be more useful.
Bleach never gave boltbeamer. He said T-bolt/Ice Beam, meaning either-or.
. t R U T H
October 20th, 2007, 12:11 PM
Bleach never gave boltbeamer. He said T-bolt/Ice Beam, meaning either-or.
Ok. Well still, Thunder Wave would be better.
sims796
October 20th, 2007, 12:13 PM
I agree with that one. T-wave is better, although they are all options.
. t R U T H
October 20th, 2007, 12:17 PM
I agree with that one. T-wave is better, although they are all options.
But then again, with the standard, 6 Special Attack EV's, Blissey could survive Starapator's Close Combat, and have either Ice Beam or Thunderbolt to do quite some damage to Staraptor.
Dark_Azelf
October 20th, 2007, 12:55 PM
I like to run Ice Beam, Thunderwave, Seismic Toss and Softboiled. Its just my opinion by i find Aromatherapy unnecessary this gen *Gets Shot* As i hardly ever have to use it, i just switch this in when a predict a status and then switch out to cure it with its Natural cure ability.
Ice Beam is for bulky ground types who often switch in expecting thunderwave. It also wrecks Garchomp and Slamence on the switch.
_-DarkCarizard-_
October 20th, 2007, 01:02 PM
Its a good team but most people ban having more than one focus sash in a battle. Other than that I love your team!
Faceless*
October 20th, 2007, 01:51 PM
Your Scyther may want U-Turn since it's your lead
Raziel_X007223
October 20th, 2007, 03:53 PM
Scyther@Life Orb/Focus Sash
Technician
Adament Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
-X Scissor
-Aerial Ace
-Quick Attack
-Swords Dance
Aerial Ace is killer on this thing, thanks to Tech and STAB, reaches a BP of 120, that hurts alot that don't resist it. Scyther over Scizor, because I hate the speed drop in the evo, and plus Scyther has always been better IMO.
Focus Sash if leading with Scyther (and/or no item clause in effect), so I can pull off a SD before the sweep, might get Night Slash over Quick Attack for those pesky Gengar leads, although a STAB might be sufficient to take down the non Focus Sash varieties
Well, This Scyther is looking good, but is Quick Attack even worth it... There are BETTER attacks that have priority... I suggest you get looking.
Houndoom@Focus Sash
Flash Fire
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 Sp Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
-Flamethrower
-Dark Pulse
-Hidden Power Ground
-Nasty Plot
Ahh, Houndoom has been through some exciting battles in the past, some victories, some crushing defeats. But I like using favourites over OUs any day.
Get a better fire attack that uses special. Flamethrower is ok, but against those who might like to use Fire Blast or Even Overheat, they might get the drop on you... Also, don't get comfortable with Hidden Power. Though great for Electric Types, It's not that needed here. Good choice with the Dark Pulse and Nasty Plot...
Kingdra@Choice Specs
Swift Swim
Modest Nature
EVs: 252 Sp Atk, 252 HP, 6 Spd
-Surf
-Draco Meteor
-Ice Beam/Hidden Power Electric
-Dragon Pulse/Signal Beam
This thing is so fast in rain, it doesnt even need the boost, so instead the Special Attack gets a boost through Nature & Specs, in which these things can destroy things that don't resist or have massive HP/Sp Def (Blissey grrr)
Surf and Draco Meteor are the only moves I have really used on him in battles, the others are just what I feel is needed more. But even then there are too many choices
Ice Beam is a good start... But you still need one more move.... (Hm.... Go for Brine....) Did I say that..... Sorry. Didn't mean to give you an answer... But again, another attack would be solid with the Surf/Ice Beam/Draco Meteor
Bronzong@Damp Rock
Levitate
Sassy Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 168 Def, 88 Sp Def
-Gyro Ball
-Hypnosis
-Rain Dance
-Reflect/Light Screen/Rest
The rain dance setter, with this thing Kingdra doesnt need to have Rain Dance in it's moveset to cause problems, thus allowing CSpecs to work on him. Split the Def EVs so that with the Nature boost, the end result is the same amount in stats.
Infernape and Blaziken Fans rejoice. If those two come out FIRST, you won't get the do the rain.... Not to mention that you're just setting up for Kingdra, which isn't bad, unless you go against an Electric Type (Rain Dance + Thunder= BAD!!! with 100% Acc)
Skarmory@Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk
-Drill Peck
-Whirlwind
-Roost
-Spikes
Steel Wing is missing. WHY!!!!
Blissey@Choice Band
Serene Grace
Adament Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
-Iron Tail
-Double Edge
-Earthquake
-Focus Punch
There is no power beyond that of Choice Band Blissey!!!
Why to I have the feeling that a VERY FAST INFERNAPE WILL WRECK HALF THIS TEAM.... Again, If Infernape or even a Lopunny fast enough get's loose, GG...
Blissey@Leftovers
Bold Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp Def
-Thunderwave
-Aromatherapy
-Softboiled
-Seismic Toss
Because I was lacking an idea for walls, and SkarmBliss works well together.
Refer to the First Blissey....
So yeah, this is my latest team, please give it a rate and suggest how to improve this team, Skarm and Bliss can be swapped out for other walls that would better suit the team, I was literally drawing blanks after 4 pokemon and couldn't think of any better fillers at the time.
All my comments will be in Bold and Red.....
Now the rating.... A 7 out of 10
Reason: With the only exception of Kingdra, EVERYONE ELSE get's murdered by Fire/Fighting Types... There are plenty of candidates that will fit that bill... But with some of the move sets here. Not bad.. A little work and you might a better win %... Happy Hunting and Look forward in seeing your work.
Raziel X
Anti Pop Culture Warrior
October 20th, 2007, 04:01 PM
All my comments will be in Bold and Red.....
Now the rating.... A 7 out of 10
Reason: With the only exception of Kingdra, EVERYONE ELSE get's murdered by Fire/Fighting Types... There are plenty of candidates that will fit that bill... But with some of the move sets here. Not bad.. A little work and you might a better win %... Happy Hunting and Look forward in seeing your work.
Raziel X
What? Steel wing should NEVER be on skarm. EVER. Terrible coverage, unreliable accuracy, the whole nine yards. Brine on kingdra? Nonononononono. 2 attack moves of the same type...hehe no. Quick attack is a finishing move :/
Overheat or fire blast on houndoom? lol. you know, the extra power is nice until fire blast misses and you are OHKOed by magikarp's tackle attack :/ Houndoom doesn't have the defences to pull those moves off.
Who uses thunderdance? It's a terrible combo. You actually think infernape or blaziken is gonna run through bronzong? think again...think again...
You took CB bliss seriously? Wow. Just lololololololol. It's A JOKE! Yeah, this is why I'm leaving, right here.
Preediction beats the infernape weak :/
While I don't like to flame, that was a terrible rate. Really, not trying to be mean, but you might wanna read up on battling b4 rating anymore teams, 'k?
Raziel_X007223
October 20th, 2007, 04:15 PM
What? Steel wing should NEVER be on skarm. EVER. Terrible coverage, unreliable accuracy, the whole nine yards. Brine on kingdra? Nonononononono. 2 attack moves of the same type...hehe no. Quick attack is a finishing move :/
Overheat or fire blast on houndoom? lol. you know, the extra power is nice until fire blast misses and you are OHKOed by magikarp's tackle attack :/ Houndoom doesn't have the defences to pull those moves off.
Who uses thunderdance? It's a terrible combo. You actually think infernape or blaziken is gonna run through bronzong? think again...think again...
You took CB bliss seriously? Wow. Just lololololololol. It's A JOKE! Yeah, this is why I'm leaving, right here.
Preediction beats the infernape weak :/
While I don't like to flame, that was a terrible rate. Really, not trying to be mean, but you might wanna read up on battling b4 rating anymore teams, 'k?
Harsh, but again, I have seen people plow through Zong with an Ape before. As for the rating, I was trying not to overdo it. It's been months since I did this (Mainly because I have problems of my own to deal with..). I didn't see the joke and I was giving a nonbias rating here... I thought I did a good job here.
But everyone is entitled to they're facts and opinions. You did put some serious points though. I may have to rereview later..
Anti Pop Culture Warrior
October 20th, 2007, 04:22 PM
Harsh, but again, I have seen people plow through Zong with an Ape before. As for the rating, I was trying not to overdo it. It's been months since I did this (Mainly because I have problems of my own to deal with..). I didn't see the joke and I was giving a nonbias rating here... I thought I did a good job here.
But everyone is entitled to they're facts and opinions. You did put some serious points though. I may have to rereview later..
At least you weren't a n00b and flamed my opinion...I respect that.
I would read up just to refresh your knowledge a bit :)
As for the team, no glaring weaks or anything...starmie a little bit, but blissey>starmie, so yeah.
Raziel_X007223
October 20th, 2007, 04:27 PM
At least you weren't a n00b and flamed my opinion...I respect that.
I would read up just to refresh your knowledge a bit :)
As for the team, no glaring weaks or anything...starmie a little bit, but blissey>starmie, so yeah.
I missed the glaring weaks, it's been so long since I have had Pokelingo Explain Glaring weaks just one time... So I can get into the lingo or jargon again...
Turst me when I say that, no one is perfect, but I try to come up with different plans for the moments. Heck, I have a Rhydon who is going to be my Speed Tank... (Don't ask, I'll let you know when I do it...)
Anti Pop Culture Warrior
October 20th, 2007, 04:29 PM
I actually think claydol would be better for this team than Zong, but seeing that you need the rain...I dunno. You're gonna need a spinner, or stealth rock tears you apart...poor scyther :(
Richard Lynch
October 20th, 2007, 04:32 PM
Your team may have trouble with a tough Fighting type... when using SkarmBliss in this generation, you always want the support of a backup wall to wall Rock and Fighting (among others, but those are usually more common). Bronzong is in the same league as Skarmory for walling Fighting: they don't do it extremely well, and a Close Combat from a CB Heracross is sometimes a 2KO on Skarmory. Same thing with a STAB Stone Edge from somthing like a CB Tyranitar... Skarmory doesn't handle those types of attacks too well.
I would suggest either putting a good bulky Psychic/Ground type in (very unsubtle hint to Claydol ;)) or even a good Ghost type. Bronzong can wall Rock attacks, but a strong Close Combat would cause your team a lot of trouble.
As for Kingdra, I would highly suggest Hidden Power [Electric], just to deal with Tauntrados, who would also cause this team trouble.
sims796
October 20th, 2007, 04:36 PM
I missed the glaring weaks, it's been so long since I have had Pokelingo Explain Glaring weaks just one time... So I can get into the lingo or jargon again...
Turst me when I say that, no one is perfect, but I try to come up with different plans for the moments. Heck, I have a Rhydon who is going to be my Speed Tank... (Don't ask, I'll let you know when I do it...)
No one is perfect, but if you know your not so good, you shouldn't give advice. That only hurts the thread maker asking for advice. If you wanna try to be different on your own time. You may want Rydon as a tank, but you wouldn't suggest it.
Not trying to beat you down of course, but just for future reference.
Anti Pop Culture Warrior
October 20th, 2007, 04:39 PM
Rhydon is actually a great tank in ADV, the CB version nails skarm on the switch with focus punch. But now that we have rhyinferior...
I say you should put in claydol. It's a great spinner and ties the loose ends of skarmbliss, as Richard pointed out.
Raziel_X007223
October 20th, 2007, 04:42 PM
No one is perfect, but if you know your not so good, you shouldn't give advice. That only hurts the thread maker asking for advice. If you wanna try to be different on your own time. You may want Rydon as a tank, but you wouldn't suggest it.
Not trying to beat you down of course, but just for future reference.
Another Harsh one... But that's cool. It's what people like me live for. Getting crit on ourselves and learning. I'm not saying I'm not that good. I have been trying to come with new teams and better training habits, but with college and work, I get lost in the sauce (Don't ask). I know some of my pokejargon, but not everything is clear anymore.
As for the comment on not giving advice, though it hurts for someone to say that, I have to respect that opinion as well.
All and all, see where I'm coming from and don't be so quick to judge. You might like what you see...
. t R U T H
October 20th, 2007, 04:42 PM
Rhydon is actually a great tank in ADV, the CB version nails skarm on the switch with focus punch. But now that we have rhyinferior...
I say you should put in claydol. It's a great spinner and ties the loose ends of skarmbliss, as Richard pointed out.
I've seen you talk about ADV. But does it mean "Advanced"?
Raziel_X007223
October 20th, 2007, 04:43 PM
Rhydon is actually a great tank in ADV, the CB version nails skarm on the switch with focus punch. But now that we have rhyinferior...
I say you should put in claydol. It's a great spinner and ties the loose ends of skarmbliss, as Richard pointed out.
Gotta love the spinner. Claydol in for sure....
sims796
October 20th, 2007, 04:47 PM
Another Harsh one... But that's cool. It's what people like me live for. Getting crit on ourselves and learning. I'm not saying I'm not that good. I have been trying to come with new teams and better training habits, but with college and work, I get lost in the sauce (Don't ask). I know some of my pokejargon, but not everything is clear anymore.
As for the comment on not giving advice, though it hurts for someone to say that, I have to respect that opinion as well.
All and all, see where I'm coming from and don't be so quick to judge. You might like what you see...
First off, Claydol FTW!
Second, I don't mean never give advice. Just hold off till ya refresh yourself.
Also, before you give your creative set, give out the original stanard set. Not that yours is bad, but the proven standard comes first.
I didn't realize I was harsh. I thought I was nice. My bad, sorry.
Anti Pop Culture Warrior
October 20th, 2007, 04:51 PM
Itachi, ADV=Advance...3rd gen...yeah.
IF you're gonna use claydol, isn't the set...rapid spin, EQ, Ice beam, rest? Think that's it...but yeah, claydol is the pwnfulness.
Richard Lynch
October 20th, 2007, 04:54 PM
First off, Claydol FTW!
haha, I've been using Claydol since I first started playing competitively... and I can't help but give myself the ego that I might have started the Claydol revolution in this generation. XD
Claydol would help this team out so much. If you give him Ice Beam, he tends to fair well against Dragons too, like Garchomp.
After that, the only thing that could cause this team trouble is Tauntrados, and Kingdra is bulky enough to go head to head with that beast IF she has Hidden Power [Electric]. Otherwise, you're in for a hell of a battle. Milotic also tends well against Tauntrados with Hidden Power [Electric]... but I'm not trying to turn this into my team here. ;)
EDIT:
IF you're gonna use claydol, isn't the set...rapid spin, EQ, Ice beam, rest? Think that's it...but yeah, claydol is the pwnfulness.
Claydol @ Leftovers
Relaxed Nature/[Bold Nature]
EVs: 236 HP, 136 Atk/[SpAtk], 108 Def, 30 SDef
- Earthquake/[Earth Power]
- Ice Beam/Psychic
- [Rest]/Explosion
- Rapid Spin
That's the usual set... Bold Nature and the EVs into SpAtk if you use Earth Power, otherwise I tend to prefer them in Attack with Earthquake, so he has a fighting chance against Tyranitar. Ice Beam is generally more helpful, but Psychic is to blast any incoming Gengar that tries to block a Rapid Spin. Rest and Explosion is debatable, but since you do indeed have a cleric in Blissey, Rest would be helpful. Especially if you run a Relaxed Nature. If you choose to use Explosion, always go with a Relaxed nature, so your Attack isn't cut.
Oh, and even if you do use Relaxed with Earthquake, you could always put those 136 EVs into Special Attack anyway, if you're worried about fatally Ice Beaming Garchomp and/or Salamence. It's all up to preference.
Anti Pop Culture Warrior
October 20th, 2007, 04:58 PM
haha, I've been using Claydol since I first started playing competitively... and I can't help but give myself the ego that I might have started the Claydol revolution in this generation. XD
Claydol would help this team out so much. If you give him Ice Beam, he tends to fair well against Dragons too, like Garchomp.
After that, the only thing that could cause this team trouble is Tauntrados, and Kingdra is bulky enough to go head to head with that beast IF she has Hidden Power [Electric]. Otherwise, you're in for a hell of a battle. Milotic also tends well against Tauntrados with Hidden Power [Electric]... but I'm not trying to turn this into my team here. ;)
I happen to use kingdra on one of my netbattle teams...gyarados is never prepared to get burnt by HP electric. Kingdra really does beat it well. Of course, that's ADV, but it holds true to 4th gen.
sims796
October 20th, 2007, 04:59 PM
Except some people run Salac Wacan Berry in 4th gen.
. t R U T H
October 20th, 2007, 05:00 PM
Except some people run Salac Berry in 4th gen.
I sometimes run those berries too...
Raziel_X007223
October 20th, 2007, 05:01 PM
First off, Claydol FTW!
Second, I don't mean never give advice. Just hold off till ya refresh yourself.
Also, before you give your creative set, give out the original stanard set. Not that yours is bad, but the proven standard comes first.
I didn't realize I was harsh. I thought I was nice. My bad, sorry.
No biggie... Anyhow, PM for more info, I'm just getting on mine and looking at my Leafeon...
Bleach and Sunshine
October 21st, 2007, 12:02 AM
Actually, his set is the Standard. And he's meant to be a Wall, not a bolt-beamer. Thunder Wave would be more useful.
You like finding ways to degrade me....right?
Blissey can be a Bolt-Beamer. A very good Bolt-Beamer to be honest!
But that wasn't my intention so I don't know where you are going there. =/
Also, standard set has flaws. Not every pokemon set has to be standard.
. t R U T H
October 21st, 2007, 12:06 AM
You like finding ways to degrade me....right?
Blissey can be a Bolt-Beamer. A very good Bolt-Beamer to be honest!
But that wasn't my intention so I don't know where you are going there. =/
Also, standard set has flaws. Not every pokemon set has to be standard.
No. I just don't like the idea of Blissey being a Bolt-Beamer. But i've seen people try it. So it may be more common then I think.
Angelic Diablo
October 21st, 2007, 01:04 AM
Ok so Claydol is in over Bronzong but then I'll need to consider switching Blissey out for Milotic, but would Milotic be good for setting up the rain for Kingdra.
And all those about Kingdra and Houndoom obviously have never used/seen one be used well. Those movesets that I use have been tested throughly on Wifi, and most people don't expect the Hidden Power that they are carrying (Infernape vs Houndoom, Houndoom goes first and KOs with HP Ground after NP :P)
I chose X Scissor over U Turn on Scyther so I didn't lose the SD after every STAB Bug attack.
Another idea, I might switch Skarmory to Donphan, with Stealth Rock, Rapid Spin, EQ and Ice Shard/Rest... That way I could keep Bronzong in as my weather setter, and with the Reflect support, Donphan becomes more suited to be a wall, then just the normal tank that he is used for (And yes, if I use Rest, I will abuse Rest as much as possible)
Iceman3k
October 21st, 2007, 02:20 AM
Scyther@Focus Sash
Technician
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
-X Scissor
-Aerial Ace
-Reversal
-Swords Dance
Aerial Ace is killer on this thing, thanks to Tech and STAB, reaches a BP of 135 ;), that hurts alot that don't resist it. Scyther over Scizor, because I hate the speed drop in the evo, and plus Scyther has always been better IMO.
AMEN BROTHER. AMEN.
Focus Sash if leading with Scyther (and/or no item clause in effect), so I can pull off a SD before the sweep, might get Night Slash over Quick Attack for those pesky Gengar leads, although a STAB might be sufficient to take down the non Focus Sash varieties
Jolly Nature because Scyther begs for the speed. Also, Reversal is helpful for a starting assault.
Houndoom@Focus Sash
Flash Fire
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 Sp Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
-Flamethrower
-Dark Pulse
-Hidden Power Ice
-Nasty Plot
Ahh, Houndoom has been through some exciting battles in the past, some victories, some crushing defeats. But I like using favourites over OUs any day.
HP Ice works better than HP Ground because of the fact that it wrecks Dragon Types. And Gliscors.
Kingdra@Choice Specs
Swift Swim
Modest Nature
EVs: 252 Sp Atk, 252 HP, 6 Spd
-Surf
-Draco Meteor
-Ice Beam/Hidden Power Electric
-Dragon Pulse
This thing is so fast in rain, it doesnt even need the boost, so instead the Special Attack gets a boost through Nature & Specs, in which these things can destroy things that don't resist or have massive HP/Sp Def (Blissey grrr)
Surf and Draco Meteor are the only moves I have really used on him in battles, the others are just what I feel is needed more. But even then there are too many choices
I kind of like this one.
Bronzong@Damp Rock
Levitate
Sassy Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 168 Def, 88 Sp Def
-Gyro Ball
-Hypnosis
-Rain Dance
-Reflect/Light Screen/Rest
The rain dance setter, with this thing Kingdra doesnt need to have Rain Dance in it's moveset to cause problems, thus allowing CSpecs to work on him. Split the Def EVs so that with the Nature boost, the end result is the same amount in stats.
Well since Bronzong baits in the Infernape, and you're Rain Dancing to switch Kingdra in, this looks pretty good.
I'm willing to anticipate that a Spec'd + Rain Danced + STABed Surf hurts blissey loads.
(come to think of it, it does slightly more than Draco Meteor!!!)
Skarmory@Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk
-Drill Peck
-Whirlwind
-Roost
-Spikes
Skarmory.
Blissey@Choice Band
Serene Grace
Adament Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
-Iron Tail
-Double Edge
-Earthquake
-Focus Punch
There is no power beyond that of Choice Band Blissey!!!
;)
Blissey@Leftovers
Bold Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp Def
-Thunderwave
-Aromatherapy
-Softboiled
-Seismic Toss
Because I was lacking an idea for walls, and SkarmBliss works well together.
I kinda like my Blisseys with Ice Beam. Dunno why though.
So yeah, this is my latest team, please give it a rate and suggest how to improve this team, Skarm and Bliss can be swapped out for other walls that would better suit the team, I was literally drawing blanks after 4 pokemon and couldn't think of any better fillers at the time.
I'd probably drop Skarm, and add another Physical Sweeper since Scyther is your only one. You could use Stealth Rock on Bronzong over the planned Light Screen / Reflect if you want. Up to you.
Team looks pretty good. Though I do worry about Scarf Attackers, as well as a Quick Feet Ursaring assaulting it.
Angelic Diablo
October 21st, 2007, 04:33 AM
Ok well I've thought alot about the team, and figured that while Skarmory is a good physical wall, I might replace it with Donphan, so I still have a nice wall, but also some back up physical attacks to launch for when I lose Scyther.
Donphan@Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 HP
-Earthquake
-Ice Shard
-Rapid Spin
-Rest
If I do use this, Bronzong will have Reflect as I lack a proper physical wall, so adding the extra defence to everything helps make up for that. But then I am torn between the Damp Rock or Light Clay for Bronzong's item.
Also I have only used Kingdra against one Blissey, and it took it down to about 1/3 of it's health in one shot, not too shabby since it's not SE against it.
EDIT: Edited the first post with a couple of changes, this team is looking pretty sweet