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Pieman
October 20th, 2007, 08:28 PM
In all my days of messing with the R/B MissingNO's, I've never had a problem with them (other than the usual Pokemon menu flashing/blank sprite, the garbled hall of fame, and the backwards sprites). They all seem pretty harmless. Is it just something some second grader invented back when Pokemon was in its prime just to sound cool, or is there actually some backing to the fact that MissingNO. can corrupt your save file? Because I haven't seen it yet.

Also, I'm not including glitch trainers here. I know those can backfire pretty badly. I'm exclusively referring to the MissingNO. and 'M' Pokemon and the Rhydons/Kangaskhans they "evolve" into, and nothing else.

Went
October 20th, 2007, 08:36 PM
Well, it does corrupt your Hall of Fame- and its caused by a glitch. Probably since it is very useful if correctly used (sixth item x 126 ^^), Nintendo decided to scare away the people. And then AR and Gameshark found similar but more dangerous gliches which, some of them, could mess up the game realy badly, and they were confunded with the good Missingno.

SvobodaMT
October 21st, 2007, 01:04 AM
MissingNO's have been claimed to corrupt people's save files. I myself have never saved the game after capturing one, so...

MoonlightUmbreon
October 21st, 2007, 01:32 AM
You don't save your game after catching it, and you should be fine. What's really bad is when you catch an M and send it to the PC...

Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun...

The box crashes and you can't get into any of that box. You need to remove M with Pokemon Stadium 1 or 2 to get rid of it. This has been known to much more occasionally happen with MissingNo. M is far more dangerous in my opinion.

Improfane
October 21st, 2007, 02:31 AM
Missingo is annoying in that it ruins your Hall of Fame.

Not sure if this is an isolated case but when I used the East shore of the Seaform Islands to get missingo, the current box of Pokemon was erased. Shame really.

Xanthine
October 21st, 2007, 03:39 AM
To add to Improfane, you get varied results, depending on what you do with it. I once messed with Missingno by repeatedly duplicating my sixth item (i.e. not using any of the item in my sixth slot but just failing to move it when I encountered multiple Missingno after that), and for some reason, that erased half of my items list and wouldn't let me go past eight slots. That only happened on one game, however. On others, I've deposited 'M and wound up crashing my game, others report messed up save files, and a lot of other people just report the messed up Hall of Fame. Because, even if you do the trick perfectly (or, rather, even if you think you did it perfectly), you might get negative results out of nowhere, the code got a bit of infamy.

Improfane
October 21st, 2007, 10:15 AM
Perhaps I could use that item list erasing to my advantage.

I have my fair share of 128 bicycles, town maps, super rods and itemfinders.

Gah!

Pieman
October 21st, 2007, 11:24 AM
Perhaps I could use that item list erasing to my advantage.

I have may fair share of 128 bicycles, town maps, super rods and itemfinders.

Gah!

Lol. I did that once and tried to deposit them all. Bloody hell...

Anyways, for the record, I've never done anything wrong and never gotten any negative results, but my look on it is that maybe when someone does it in a different way, some chunk of the save data or game data gets overwritten or misplaced in some way it shouldn't by MissingNO. This would possibly explain the Hall of Flame having garbled graphics and weird Pokemon like Mew and MissingNO.

Also, to the people that don't save after catching MissingNO., even if you release him first, SAVE THE GAME. It's been proven that when you encounter MissingNO. your game saves, but it's nothing more than a garbage save. I can't think anything good comes out of not saving over that, but I've never tried.

Xanthine
October 21st, 2007, 02:09 PM
Perhaps I could use that item list erasing to my advantage.

I wish I could tell you that my stroke of stupidity would work 100% of the time, but alas. XD; Good luck if you'd like to see if it does, though.

Also, to the people that don't save after catching MissingNO., even if you release him first, SAVE THE GAME. It's been proven that when you encounter MissingNO. your game saves, but it's nothing more than a garbage save. I can't think anything good comes out of not saving over that, but I've never tried.

Actually, this is true for 'M (which is a different but similar glitch), not Missingno. I know 'M is often confused with Missingno (what with a very similar encounter process and sprite), 'M is actually the more destructive of the two, with the ability to save your game upon first encounter and generating messed up Halls of Fame that also apparently save your game. Missingno might mess up your Hall of Fame a little, but other than that, it doesn't force the game to automatically save. (I admit I drew this information from the Glitch Dex and TRsRockin.)

Monzae
October 21st, 2007, 02:13 PM
Rhydons and Kangaskhans are only found in Safari Zone yes?
So Missingno must be a glitch of a Pokemon that was to be a Safari Zone Pokemon..
Why the hell he's a flying type, and evolves into Rhydon/Kangaskhan gets me..
What also gets me is why you find him in Cinnibar Island..
He's a prick to battle when you're low level, I know that much.
I've never had the guts to catch him.. I don't want to screw the game over too much..
Although he's such a mystery, he's SO GOOD for that item duplication reason. Makes life so much more easier.

Xanthine
October 21st, 2007, 02:21 PM
Rhydons and Kangaskhans are only found in Safari Zone yes?
So Missingno must be a glitch of a Pokemon that was to be a Safari Zone Pokemon..

Rhydon can also be found in Cerulean Cave. Also, Missingno is a placeholder for Pokemon data, not the remnant of a Pokemon that was meant to be put into the game.

Why the hell he's a flying type,

He's not. He's a Bird-type, which is actually apparently different. It's not known why, although there's been rumors that Bird was actually a beta-type.

and evolves into Rhydon/Kangaskhan gets me..

It doesn't. Missingno shifts into Rhydon after awhile of being stored in a PC, but it doesn't evolve into Kangaskhan ('M does.), nor does it actually go through an evolution process. I'd say it's a bit like catching 'M for a second time in the battle, only to have 'M turn into Ditto.

What also gets me is why you find him in Cinnibar Island..

Because the strip of land/water was never programmed for Pokemon data, although it was programmed to allow players to encounter wild Pokemon. Because the game doesn't know what to put there, it instead borrows data from the last area you've been in. (This is why going into the Safari Zone and surfing up and down either Cinnabar's coast or Seafoam's coast produces Safari Pokemon.) However, since the last Pokemon encounter you were in was in a demo battle in an area with no wild Pokemon, the game instead borrows data from the last place where Pokemon data was saved: your name. So, the game gets a little confused, throws a bunch of stuff that shouldn't be encountered together, and gives it to you in the form of glitched Pokemon.

Monzae
October 21st, 2007, 02:24 PM
Because the game doesn't know what to put there, it instead borrows data from the last area you've been in.
o.o
Wow.
You went to quite an effort there, buddy.

But don't you fly directly from Viridian city, and the old man, to cinnabar? Or has my memory failed due to not playing the game in over 6 years?

Xanthine
October 21st, 2007, 02:35 PM
o.o
Wow.
You went to quite an effort there, buddy.

Yeah, I'll admit I have no life and have been gathering information about Missingno since I was twelve. So, that means I've spent eight years messing with the glitch and reading about it. XD

But don't you fly directly from Viridian city, and the old man, to cinnabar? Or has my memory failed due to not playing the game in over 6 years?

Yes. The thing is about his encounter is that:

1. There's no wild Pokemon in Viridian City, so the game can't retrieve Pokemon data from the last place you've encountered a wild Pokemon battle.
2. Because of the nature of the demo battle, rather than storing the information for that particular battle in a normal place, it does so in the same spaces that store both your name and a wild Pokemon encounter so that when you watch the demo battle, the old man's name appears instead of your own. Unfortunately, this also means that the next encounter recalls your name instead of regular Pokemon data because that single strip along Cinnabar Island's east coast doesn't have wild Pokemon data programmed into it in order to overwrite what the last encounter had done. So, because of that, the game recalls the hex for each letter to your name to assign to a level and species of Pokemon, hence why you tend to get really messed up stuff, like level 150 Haunter if you name yourself MATT (T being the third letter, whose hex corresponds to the hex for Haunter).

I hope that made sense. It's a bit hard to explain without spending hours trying to get the numbers for examples. ^_^;

Monzae
October 21st, 2007, 02:37 PM
Oh my lord.
I will give it to you, you know a freaking DAMN LOT about Missingno/how it operates..

Props.
Thanks for the lesson <3

Pieman
October 21st, 2007, 02:53 PM
Actually, this is true for 'M (which is a different but similar glitch), not Missingno. I know 'M is often confused with Missingno (what with a very similar encounter process and sprite), 'M is actually the more destructive of the two, with the ability to save your game upon first encounter and generating messed up Halls of Fame that also apparently save your game. Missingno might mess up your Hall of Fame a little, but other than that, it doesn't force the game to automatically save. (I admit I drew this information from the Glitch Dex and TRsRockin.)

Oh, I know 'M' is different as similar as it looks. And MissingNO. in fact DOES do a garbage save. Fight one in Pokemon Stadium on the GB Tower and watch the "Saving..." appear when he comes up.

The GlitchDex and TRsRockin are very good. Probably the best place to get glitch information on the net! :p

Rhydons and Kangaskhans are only found in Safari Zone yes?
So Missingno must be a glitch of a Pokemon that was to be a Safari Zone Pokemon..


It's been said; MissingNO. is placeholder data. There is a question that's been nagging me, though. Why the mess of pixels rather than some sort of proper sprite?


Why the hell he's a flying type, and evolves into Rhydon/Kangaskhan gets me..


I remember loosely how this was explained, but it was something to do with how the game tried to fix the glitch, and Kanga/Rhydon were next on the list. Or something.


He's a prick to battle when you're low level, I know that much.


Depends on the level of the Pokemon you use and whether he uses Sky Attack or Water Gun. MissingNO. has ridculous attack, so even at low levels he might kill you with Sky, but Water Gun is Special, and his special is horrible.


He's not. He's a Bird-type, which is actually apparently different. It's not known why, although there's been rumors that Bird was actually a beta-type.


Are bird-types weak to the same things as flying?

Oh my lord.
I will give it to you, you know a freaking DAMN LOT about Missingno/how it operates..


Heh. It's not actually that hard to find stuff on him if you know where to look. :P

Monzae
October 21st, 2007, 02:56 PM
Okay, enough with the quoting. xD

I guess you're right about where to find the info though, I guess all I really knew/cared about was that he was a weird glitch that used flying attacks and made my items go up ^_^

But props to people who study him really hard. It's quite an interesting glitch.

Pieman
October 21st, 2007, 02:59 PM
Okay, enough with the quoting. xD

Damn 25 character limit....

Xanthine
October 21st, 2007, 03:00 PM
Oh, I know 'M' is different as similar as it looks. And MissingNO. in fact DOES do a garbage save. Fight one in Pokemon Stadium on the GB Tower and watch the "Saving..." appear when he comes up.

That's through Stadium, not on RBY itself. It doesn't save RBY whenever you encounter them.

The GlitchDex and TRsRockin are very good. Probably the best place to get glitch information on the net! :p

In that case, lemme quote TRsRockin.

"MissingNo does not make your game save when you encounter it."
- From this page (http://www.trsrockin.com/dex_mn.html)

Also, lemme quote what they say about 'M:

"'M seems to cause much more damage to your records and Hall of Fame than MissingNo. Even encountering one will make your game save (you can see this happening while playing on Stadium 1 or 2)."
- From here (http://www.trsrockin.com/dex_m.html)

Also, this is from the Glitch Dex I've found. (I realize it's not the Glitch Dex, but it's close enough.)

"However, your game automatically saves when you encounter 'M, unlike MissingNo,"
- Here (http://pokemon.pbwiki.com/Glitch%20Dex)

So, I'm thinking you might've confused 'M for Missingno here unless they did.

It's been said; MissingNO. is placeholder data. There is a question that's been nagging me, though. Why the mess of pixels rather than some sort of proper sprite?

Because the mess of pixels is a placeholder as well. Occasionally, you get actual sprites (e.g. Ghost Missingno), but more commonly, you'll get the garbage that's left in the slots that were never meant to be called up in a Pokemon encounter.

Are bird-types weak to the same things as flying?

I've tested this, and apparently not. On the other hand, I had also created my test by Sharking a Missingno in place of Bulbasaur at the start of the game, so that might have something to do with it.


Also, thanks to Monzae, but you'll probably find better information in the Missingno sticky or on other websites. I just gave you what I could remember and a sort of messy explanation about it. ^_^;

Monzae
October 21st, 2007, 03:00 PM
Damn 25 character limit....

Made me laugh though. =3

Sorry for off topic.

Pieman
October 21st, 2007, 03:11 PM
So, I'm thinking you might've confused 'M for Missingno here unless they did.


Well, I'd like to say they're confused, because I remember reading about and experiencing the fact that MissingNO. does in fact save garbage. But, it's a mighty big claim to say something on TRsRockin's GlitchDex is wrong. That's like the holy bible of glitches.

But then, you have to think, why would it save on stadium but not RBY itself? I assume Stadium does nothing more than run the RBY game on the TV, similar to an Emulator. Does it work differently?

Xanthine
October 21st, 2007, 03:21 PM
But then, you have to think, why would it save on stadium but not RBY itself? I assume Stadium does nothing more than run the RBY game on the TV, similar to an Emulator. Does it work differently?

Yes. Stadium is its own game, using a different cartridge and all. Unless you mean actually using the N64 to play the game on your television (as in, you're essentially seeing what you would be seeing on your Gameboy), it's still coded differently, so there may be some different glitches involved with that game's codes, just like there's different glitches in GSC. The only connection would be that you're porting Pokemon back and forth onto/through the N64.

(Edit: I've thought about it, and now I get what you mean. I'm still thinking the fact that you're doing it through Stadium might have something to do with it, as it doesn't happen within the games by themselves. So, if it does happen when you do things through Stadium -- although see my note below -- it might have something to do with the medium.)

Other than that, I really can't find any information stating that Missingno automatically saves on RBY specifically. Just that other, Missingno-like glitches do. Oddly enough, I can't find information that it does it on Stadium either, although again, I've found information that states that 'M does it (hence the quotes I've obtained above).

Improfane
October 21st, 2007, 08:59 PM
Sorry Monzae for the following quotations ;) While they're not nested it makes my post large! Jax Malcolm certainly knows her stuff!
Because the mess of pixels is a placeholder as well. Occasionally, you get actual sprites (e.g. Ghost Missingno), but more commonly, you'll get the garbage that's left in the slots that were never meant to be called up in a Pokemon encounter.
However, I have to disagree with those pixels being the placeholder itself!
It's been said; MissingNO. is placeholder data. There is a question that's been nagging me, though. Why the mess of pixels rather than some sort of proper sprite?
The reason why you get the missingo sprite is because you're using data that isn't supposed to be an image as an image, hence you get an unintended sprite. This is unintentional. I think only the name 'missingno' is the placeholder. Everything else is read because it's there every time.

I haven't checked but if you looked in the memory for Pokemon ID 0 there should be no information there, hopefully only 0s/nulls. The only thing set should be its name: Missingno.

The reason why the graphics are so mucked up is that you have to remember that:
data stored in the RAM is just one continuous list of binary numbers.
Images are just numbers, ingame text is just (an indexed list of) font letter pictures.
If you read data as a letter you will get a letter. If you read data as a sound you'll get an awful sound*.
Gameshark (and its type of cheat system) works by modifying memory addresses to reproduce the results you want. The number you input is actually the offset from the beggining of the memory.


I think the reason why you get consistent Missingno sprites is that the overwritten data from the Old Man is the same every time. What Jax says makes sense: your name is put somewhere else for safe keeping while the game uses OLD MAN. When you force the game to read something that it isn't supposed to be reading, you'll get strange results. Explains why you get images in the hall of fame. Name data and the wild pokemon overlap at certain name character positions.

* I'm ignoring headers and the like, you cannot name a .PNG file a .WAV and expect it to play for example. On gameboys you don't have strict or the requirement of file headers.

Because the strip of land/water was never programmed for Pokemon data, although it was programmed to allow players to encounter wild Pokemon. Because the game doesn't know what to put there, it instead borrows data from the last area you've been in.

I didn't realise this previously, thanks Jax! The bug that causes this to work is that the tile on shores. The bug isn't the old man! The game shouldn't be reading that information to begin with. Those shores give a memory offset that points to the bogusdata the old man sets and previous battles set.

This enables people to manipulate them! Yellow probably fixes the bug by simply making shores give wild Pokemon, since this will fix the bug.

What a thought stimulating post!

convikt
October 23rd, 2007, 06:33 PM
Back in the day everyone who lived near me used the glitch where you could get loads of items, and no one had a corrupted game because of it.

You Homosexual Blood Elf
October 23rd, 2007, 08:11 PM
It could crash your game -_-;

I will never know why people get so emotionally involved in Pokemon to make a thread like this...

Har D Har
October 25th, 2007, 01:47 AM
I am thinking that Nintendo spread the rumors that it erases your game. When I tell people I am a gritch hunter, many freak out and warn me about MissingNo. NEWFLASH!!! MissngNo. and 'M do not do any lasting damage do your game. Any and all effects can be removed in many ways. It really pisses me off.

fate
October 25th, 2007, 02:10 AM
Awful reputation? Pfft. MissingNO was the 1st gen's Arceus. With the ability to cause you to run into wild trainers, clone items, run into lvl200+ Pokemon.

He's a legend.

Xanthine
October 25th, 2007, 02:12 AM
NEWFLASH!!! MissngNo. and 'M do not do any lasting damage do your game. Any and all effects can be removed in many ways.

Tell that to my poor items bag.

To the overall game, yeah, they don't do anything that would be passed on to a new game if you decided to restart. Not to my knowledge, at least. But to the current game you're playing, you run at a risk of doing all sorts of crap to it (even if it's a rare occurrence), and if you're stupid enough to save the game thereafter (like I was at that time), then there's not much you can do to fix it.

Also, thanks to Improfane for clearing up the bit about the messed up graphics. I wasn't sure about the specifics there. ^_^;

Har D Har
October 25th, 2007, 02:18 AM
All the Missing-dude can do is mess with your hall of fame, battle sprites, and items. I always save after catching him, and I have no lasting side effects. The HoF can be fixed by beating them again, battle sprites are fixed by turning the power off and on after saving, and items are fixed by using them all. But the rumors of deleting data, that is bull$***. And that is today's word.

Xanthine
October 25th, 2007, 02:32 AM
But the rumors of deleting data, that is bull$***. And that is today's word.

Although I very highly doubt that Nintendo itself would release rumors to scare people into avoiding messing with a glitch that would otherwise be harmless (considering the fact that, you know, the games are usually riddled with glitches of some sort or another and that they're not exactly actively speaking out against the use of devices like Gameshark, which essentially go into the game and screw with the hex too), here I'll have to say it depends on the data. Missing items and boxes of Pokemon have already been brought up, and yes, it happens on that level, although the occurrence of this is rare. (For example, the messed up item bag where most of my items became inaccessible happened once out of several hundred times that I've abused the Missingno/'M glitch.) Entire save files I have yet to encounter myself.

Har D Har
October 25th, 2007, 03:02 AM
What i said was truthiness, and that, is why I am right. Just joking, but seriously, I have experimented with the gltich duo (MissingNo. and 'M) many times, and I know for a fact that neither can erase a safe file. Only a Superglitch move could do that, which neother can learn. Plus, superglitch can do anything.

SvobodaMT
October 26th, 2007, 07:12 AM
I am thinking that Nintendo spread the rumors that it erases your game.
Come on, Nintendo isn't that cunning. I doubt they even knew about the glitch until people found it themselves, and if anything, those people were the one's claming it does erase saved games.

NEWFLASH!!! MissngNo. and 'M do not do any lasting damage do your game. Any and all effects can be removed in many ways.
In reality, there's only one way, and that's starting a new game. The effects of MissingNO., such as messed up HOF data, and whatever else, aren't repairable unless you start the game over again.

(note that this is based off of my own personal experiences)

Improfane
October 26th, 2007, 09:20 AM
I remember phoning a Nintendo service to ask about why my Pokemon boxes disappeared. The service tends to be listed on the last page of Nintendo gamebody manuals.

They asked if I used a cheat or a glitch before hand. I said yes. They promptly said they couldn't support me if it was a cause of a cheat/glitch. Can't really blame them.

Thanks Jax, this is a great topic if you ask me. I've learnt things.

I am thinking that Nintendo spread the rumors that it erases your game.

It's physically impossible for missingo to damage the game code itself. You have to remember that the game code and your savegame are on different chips within the cartridge (or at least different areas, I really am not sure). One is read only memory, ROM and the other is writable, where you save the game. I think it's flash. Not sure.

The writable one is powered by the battery inside the cartridge. You can only modify the writable memory.

I know that you are talking about the savegame itself, not the game. The missingno glitch can bug up your game. At the very least we have proof it ruins your hall of fame. That's destroying data you originally had.

I can't remember if you can clean your hall of fame by redoing the league?

Xanthine
October 26th, 2007, 12:28 PM
I can't remember if you can clean your hall of fame by redoing the league?

Alas, you can't. If you go through the E4 gauntlet again, it'll just add more pages to the messed up HoF. At least, if you've encountered 'M instead of Missingno (although it might happen for Missingno as well). If I remember correctly, the cap was thirty for some odd reason, so if you didn't use the Missingno glitch again and went through the challenge thirty more times, the 31st time will produce normal Hall of Fame pages. (I don't remember exactly if it's thirty times, but I do know that eventually, you'll be seeing normal Pokemon.)

And it is an awesome topic. =D

Smarties-chan
October 26th, 2007, 02:25 PM
All the Missing-dude can do is mess with your hall of fame, battle sprites, and items. I always save after catching him, and I have no lasting side effects. The HoF can be fixed by beating them again, battle sprites are fixed by turning the power off and on after saving, and items are fixed by using them all. But the rumors of deleting data, that is bull$***. And that is today's word.
Please do not bypass the censor as it's against the rules here; if you can't say something without swearing don't say it at all.

Dogar The Brave
October 29th, 2007, 01:19 PM
It corupted my save file..

jb0000612
October 30th, 2007, 07:41 PM
My opinion is that even trying to get Missingno is a waste of time. If you want to be a good Pokemon Master, then you play the game fair and square, and don't use cheats unless you need to. If you have Missingno currently, start over, and next time, don't pull any glitches unless it's the Mew Glitch.

Pieman
October 30th, 2007, 07:51 PM
My opinion is that even trying to get Missingno is a waste of time. If you want to be a good Pokemon Master, then you play the game fair and square, and don't use cheats unless you need to. If you have Missingno currently, start over, and next time, don't pull any glitches unless it's the Mew Glitch.

I laughed heartily at this sentence. "Don't get a Pokemon that isn't a real cheat, but do try and cheat to get an extremely powerful pokemon that you can't get any other way."

boo836
October 30th, 2007, 08:06 PM
Jb, what you just said was basicly don't abuse glitches, abuse them.:p

Pieman
October 30th, 2007, 08:15 PM
Jb, what you just said was basicly don't abuse glitches, abuse them.:p

Mew is way more abusive than MissingNO. will ever be. Unless you count the "lol hey guys I just figured out how 2 clone masterballs 10 years late" 2nd graders that just figured out how to spell Pokemon.

Game Freak
October 30th, 2007, 09:09 PM
You don't save your game after catching it, and you should be fine. What's really bad is when you catch an M and send it to the PC...

Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun...

The box crashes and you can't get into any of that box. You need to remove M with Pokemon Stadium 1 or 2 to get rid of it. This has been known to much more occasionally happen with MissingNo. M is far more dangerous in my opinion.

I saved my game with 2 missingno on it. One i used the missingno rare candy glitch on, and put it in my box. The other one i just released right after i caught it. This was on my red version about 8 years ago. I just released my lvl 100 one last month. The only thing that got corrupted is my hall of fame, which claims Mew was in it o_O along with all these other pokemon ive never been in the hall of fame with. The only pokemon i ever used in the elite four is my lvl 100 hitmonchan, 100 charizard, and 100 snorlax.

oh, and in another glitch, ive heard if you drop a pokemon in your box and let it sit there (at level 100, mind you), it will level up. I have had this happen with a Snorlax, where it went from 100 to 224, but when i took it out, it dropped back to 100. huh?

Dogar The Brave
October 30th, 2007, 09:31 PM
mew is the only pokemon in my hall of fame... but i dont have a mew!! i mean, i didnt when they started appearin

jb0000612
October 31st, 2007, 12:57 PM
Well, c'mon! Mew giveaways for the GBC have happened in countries and events I currently don't have access to. The Mew Glitch is a great thing. It doesn't mess up your game like Missingno.

Dogar The Brave
October 31st, 2007, 01:22 PM
correction jb.. it does mess up your game.. it messed up mine (the mew glkitch messed up my pokemon yellow version) because i battled my rival instead of the youngster, ran into a level 7 arcanine.. caught it.. now i cant get into my box 1

Xanthine
October 31st, 2007, 02:44 PM
The Mew Glitch is a great thing. It doesn't mess up your game like Missingno.

This actually depends on what Pokemon you battle last. There is a potential of accessing glitch Pokemon far more dangerous than Missingno.

And in any case, the glitch is typically used to get Pokemon you could possibly get through trading or in the game. While, yes, many people encounter Missingno to increase their items count, some people also seek Missingno to capture it as a Pokemon, and the Missingno glitch is obviously the only way to do it. However, the Mew glitch's sole intent is to capture (any) Pokemon fairly easily.

jb0000612
October 31st, 2007, 05:22 PM
In Yellow version, I used the Mew glitch to get a Raichu and Gengar.

Pieman
October 31st, 2007, 06:17 PM
Well, I think the point is, if you're going to cheat at all, you're already cheating. Don't have double standards. If you catch MissingNo you might as well catch Mew while you're at it, but don't tell other people that one kind of cheating is better than the other, because in the end, cheating is cheating.

FYI, my stance is, if the cheating isn't something like resetting your clock to fix a time change you made starting the game in GSC, unlocking the GS Ball to catch celebi fairly (without a GS Ball), or catching MissingNO without cloning good items, it's a bad cheat. Basically, if you make the game any easier for yourself, like getting 128 master balls, and not cheating to expand the game, you're a bad cheater. But that's just my opinion.

Rainfall
October 31st, 2007, 07:24 PM
Missingno does cause a lot of corruption in the game, and that's probably why people are so afraid of them. I caught Missingno and didn't have many problems with it, but my friend actually got his game completely crashed by it. I'm not sure whether or not he was telling the truth in telling me it was Missingno, but I'd rather be safe than sorry, so now I avoid catching them.

GiantGroudon
June 29th, 2008, 12:12 PM
aah..... This thread brings back memories..... missingno, idontknow rare candies, and yeah, I foun another glitch related to virdian man. do the same like in the missingno. glitch. when you are in cinnabar, surf up and bump the rock as so long until a pokemon appears. It will be a mewto. I know this sounds stupid, but i tried it serveral times, and when I was bumping the rock, mewto came more often. when I was'nt bumping the rock, I got only some mewtos (I tried it 15 minutes each, just to get sure. Tested on a german blue cartridge)

Harry Blue5
June 29th, 2008, 01:02 PM
I know a lot about glitches... and from what I've heard, Bird Type might not be a beta name. As Cooltrainer is a type, does no one think it might be possible the Bird Type is like that because of the trainers that are called 'BIRD KEEPERS'.

Also, graphic problems are EASILY fixed, just look at the stats of a normal non-glitch Pokémon. They will, however, glitch up if you look at another glitch's stats, but you can just look at a normal Pokémon stats again.

And GiantGroundon, what over-level-100 Pokémon you get is based on the 3rd, 5th or 7thslot in your name, so most people don't find Mewtwo's in the place, and bumping in the the block (I think) does nothind, and you were just getting lucky, pure (lucky) coincidence.

Maria Santos
June 30th, 2008, 02:01 AM
The Hall of fame messup is annoying, but who can pass up more than 100 copies of masterballs and rare candies?

I have caught missingno and M many times to see what effects they would have with the game. Its all like you say though, corrupt HoF, messed up sprites, Etc.

And you can also pull off Rhydons and Kangaskhans with sky attack, which of course i transer to PKMN stadium 1/2 and gold and silver.

Buh
June 30th, 2008, 03:09 AM
If you used the name ANDREW, you got an infinite supply of level 141 Mewtwos and level 128 Snorlaxes. Win!

There were also some very, very bizarre things. Using the name ZECH!!! results in wild encounters with Cooltrainers (both genders). Their teams always consisted of Nidorans, Charmanders and glitch sprites (not Missigno, a different assortment of random pixels). The mon were around level 25 but they only seemed to have weak attacks like Scratch.

Does anyone know of any other names that produced weirdness like that?

Blaziken_Boy
June 30th, 2008, 03:20 AM
Someone could probably do an epic ROMhack maneuver to make MissingNO. have a sprite.

My cousin caught one and we looked at the Hall of fame. One of the pokemon was GARY*randomcharacters*_TRAINER, and on every page was the word PECK.

Smarties-chan
June 30th, 2008, 07:32 AM
aah..... This thread brings back memories..... missingno, idontknow rare candies, and yeah, I foun another glitch related to virdian man. do the same like in the missingno. glitch. when you are in cinnabar, surf up and bump the rock as so long until a pokemon appears. It will be a mewto. I know this sounds stupid, but i tried it serveral times, and when I was bumping the rock, mewto came more often. when I was'nt bumping the rock, I got only some mewtos (I tried it 15 minutes each, just to get sure. Tested on a german blue cartridge)
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