Miltank

[Archer]

Rate my miltank. Constructive criticism please.

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Miltank @ Lefties
Scrappy
Impish[-Sp.atk, +Def], 200HP, 200 Def, 52 Atk, 54 Spd
-Heal Bell
-Milk Drink
-Body Slam
-Brick Break/EarthQuake

Healer, fast tank. What do you think?

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Consider body slam for lovely para hax.

[sims796]

That is fhe worst set ever. You should be ashamed.

Naw, I'm just kidding, could you imagine if I was like that?

If you give it SP.DEF EV's, I think it should be Thick Fat. Otherwise, use it as a pure physical wall.

[Archer]

That is fhe worst set ever. You should be ashamed.

Naw, I'm just kidding, could you imagine if I was like that?

If you give it SP.DEF EV's, I think it should be Thick Fat. Otherwise, use it as a pure physical wall.

Imagine? but you are alre- oh. joke. got it.
Sure but, if i make it thick fat, i need something else to hit ghosts with...

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Imagine? but you are alre- oh. joke. got it.
Sure but, if i make it thick fat, i need something else to hit ghosts with...

In 3rd gen shadow ball would do...

It can learn rock slide...I guess that works. Maybe just switch out :/

[sims796]

Imagine? but you are alre- oh. joke. got it.
Sure but, if i make it thick fat, i need something else to hit ghosts with...

Hey, if I'm gonna be a jerk, you should expect bad spelling.

So you really want a dual wall? I'm using Miltank myself, and had JUST now got the pun (get it, Mil-TANK?)

This is my set

Miltank@Choice Band/Scarf
Nature Adamant
Return
Ice Punch
EQ
Milk Drink/Stealth Rock/T-Wave
EV:252 ATK/126/SP.DEF/126 SPD

My team needs an Ice/Fire absorber, so she was perfect. This might not work for you.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Great switch-in to ice beam...since you need one if you're using a dragon.

Miltank is a red door and I want it painted black. No matter what color it is, it's still a door...basically saying that no matter what the set, you can't really change its strengths...poor analogie, but musical references are my thing. Basically, miltank is a great heal beller and I'd take advantage of that.

[Archer]

OK i edited the first post. Zen Hbut looks nice for gengars.
I also find out a while ago that milk drink can be used on the other poke in 2v2s.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Terribly walled by steels, a free turn for agiligross to power up.

EDIT: Or TTar :/ CB versions or gross and TTar do even more to your incoming pokemon with powerful EQs on the switch.

[Archer]

Can i use EQ for them, Drop Zen Headbutt for it?
Are gengars going to expect it to have scrappy?
It gets walled by them.

[Samson]

well this miltank is walled by all the aforementioned, but it does an excellent job with scrappy + seismic toss + thunderwave.

[Archer]

I was thinking (dont look so amazed), I definately want Heal Bell and Milk Drink.
Brick Break will hit Gross and TTar(nicely), so its a fight between BrickBreak and Zen headbutt. I really want thick fat.

[Angelic Diablo]

Earthquake hits the both better

[Archer]

Earthquake hits the both better

Then i get walled badly by Gengar. There is no Perfect Moveset, so i guess i have to choose one.

[Spinarak]

Then get rid of Heal Bell, simple.
I think Scrappy works better, since Gengar is so OU.

~EQ
~Brick Break
~Milk Drink
~Body Slam

[Lumine]

Is this going to be a cleric? tanker? sweeper?

[Smarties-chan]

Then i get the **** walled out of me by Blissey. There is no Perfect Moveset, so i guess i have to choose one.
I will have to ask you not to swear; any word that's automatically censored shouldn't be used in the first place.

[Archer]

Then get rid of Heal Bell, simple.
I think Scrappy works better, since Gengar is so OU.

~EQ
~Brick Break
~Milk Drink
~Body Slam

I specifically wanted heal beller Cleric. I really am just looking for the combo of two moves that works the best for me.

I will have to ask you not to swear; any word that's automatically censored shouldn't be used in the first place.

Yeah that was stupid, sorry. I never swear on PC, i don't know why i did that.

[Harry]

Attacks:

Heal Bell
Milk Drink
Return/Body Slam/Focus Punch
Shadow Ball/Thunder Wave

-or-

Heal Bell
Milk Drink
Seismic Toss
Thunder Wave/Shadow Ball/Counter

Items Attached:
Leftovers

Preferred Nature:
Jolly

[Archer]

Attacks:

Heal Bell
Milk Drink
Return/Body Slam/Focus Punch
Shadow Ball/Thunder Wave

-or-

Heal Bell
Milk Drink
Seismic Toss
Thunder Wave/Shadow Ball/Counter

Items Attached:
Leftovers

Preferred Nature:
Jolly

Um, 4th gen mate.
Oh and For the record, I specifically want it to be a cleric/tank.

[Angelic Diablo]

Then i get walled badly by Gengar. There is no Perfect Moveset, so i guess i have to choose one.

Not with Scrappy it doesn't

Miltank makes a better Physical tank than Special, and IMO Thick Fat is more for the special side of things anyway (yeah I know Elemental Fangs/Punches and other things)

Miltank@Leftovers
Scrappy
Impish Nature
252 HP, 152 Atk, 106 Def
-Heal Bell
-Milk Drink
-Earthquake
-Body Slam/Return

EDIT: Was thinking Scrappy was Moldbreaker, silly me

[Shadow147]

I do agree though; fangs and punches are less common...

Scrappy's probably more worthwhile.

[Arsibiyez]

She's supposed to be a mixed wall, so Thick Fat needs to be the superior Trait in this case. I do have my doubts as to Miltank's special walling capabilities, though she does reduce the common boltbeam to just... bolt. There is the danger of Focus Blast and Aura Sphere here and there. But if, say, we gave her Careful nature and enough SDef EVs?

EDIT: I should've posted a set. <duh>


Miltank @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
Careful Nature
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef / 4 Def (based entirely on theory.)
- Heal Bell
- Milk Drink
- Earthquake
- Zen Headbutt

The 2 attacking moves are purely to go against her main concerns. EQ to take care of the electrics she's walling, and for general damaging, and Zen Headbutt to counter her weakness, should she face them. Return could be there somewhere, maybe even Body Slam.

How 'bout Subpuncher? :/

[Dark_Azelf]

Miltank@Leftovers
Impish Nature
evs: 252 HP / 224 Def / 32 Sp.def
Ability :Thick Fat / Scrappy
- Body Slam
- Earthquake / Zen Headbutt / Fire Punch
- Heal Bell
- Milk Drink

Utility


Fire Punch is good for Bronzong and other steels, just note it is illegal with Scrappy due to it being a tutor move in 3rd gen and the ability scrappy didnt exist then.


OR Theres this


Miltank@Leftovers
evs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 120 SpDef
Impish Nature
Ability : Thick Fat / Scrappy
- Body Slam
- Earthquake / Zen Headbutt / Fire Punch / Heal Bell
- Curse
- Milk Drink

Utility and Curser


Hell it can even pull a mock Blissey with Thunder Wave and Seismic Toss.

[Faceless*]

For Zen Headbutt, why would you stay in against a Gengar anyway? =\

[Dark_Azelf]

For Zen Headbutt, why would you stay in against a Gengar anyway? =\

Maybe you can catch it on the switch in ??

[Arsibiyez]

Fire Punch is good for Bronzong and other steels, just note it is illegal with Scrappy due to it being a tutor move in 2rd gen and the ability scrappy didnt exist then.

I'm sure you meant to say "3rd gen"... The number typed in made it confusing.


I used a Curse set for Miltank once. Notice how it can do nothing for Special walling... It did do well for the physical side of things, though.


Miltank @ Leftovers
Trait: Scrappy
Impish Nature
- Heal Bell
- Curse
- Body Slam / Earthquake / Zen Heabutt
- Gyro Ball

It didn't take me long to run out of Gyro Ball PP, but I was able to sweep more than half a team with this. A Steelix stopped me since I chose Body Slam over EQ.

Captivate looks like a good attack to make up for Miltank's lack of SDef. Since she's always female and most opponent's don't really care for the gender of their Pokemon, besides the strategic few who exploit Cute Charm. As for a moveset based around Captivate, I'm really unsure as I've only thought of this now.

[Dark_Azelf]

I'm sure you meant to say "3rd gen"... The number typed in made it confusing.


I used a Curse set for Miltank once. Notice how it can do nothing for Special walling... It did do well for the physical side of things, though.


Miltank @ Leftovers
Trait: Scrappy
Impish Nature
- Heal Bell
- Curse
- Body Slam / Earthquake / Zen Heabutt
- Gyro Ball

It didn't take me long to run out of Gyro Ball PP, but I was able to sweep more than half a team with this. A Steelix stopped me since I chose Body Slam over EQ.

Captivate looks like a good attack to make up for Miltank's lack of SDef. Since she's always female and most opponent's don't really care for the gender of their Pokemon, besides the strategic few who exploit Cute Charm. As for a moveset based around Captivate, I'm really unsure as I've only thought of this now.


Yeah i meant 3RD Gen, however i must of pressed 2 by mistake.



*Edits Previous Post*

[Archer]

I want thick fat and Heal Bell, Milk Drink and Body Slam, i just have to choose between Earthquake, Zen Headbutt and Brick Break.

[Angelic Diablo]

I'd say it's up for what you need to hit more with Miltank

Brick Break - hits TTar and Weavile incredibly well, Steels, Rocks and Ice feel the pain as well... Walled by Gengar, Bronzong, Skarmory
Earthquake - hits TTar, Metagross, Electivire well, Fire, Rocks, Steels feel the pain... Walled by Flyers/Levitators (Gengar again)
Zen Headbutt - hits Gengar well, Posion and Fighters feel the wrath as well, walled by the Steels, TTar has an easy set up, resisting Body Slam and being Immune to Zen Headbutt

Hmm probably more to it then that, but either way there is always something that is annoying you, and forcing Miltank to switch... (Gengar, TTar and the Steel Levitators/Fliers mainly)

[Archer]

Brick Break sounds the best, as it can hit everything except gengar. It hits bronzong and Skarmory for neutral and has the lastability to stay in against them. I have decided to make two and test them.

Miltank@lefties
Scrappy, 252HP, 252 Def
Impish
-Brick Break
-Body Slam
-Heal Bell
-Milk Drink

Miltank@lefties
Thick Fat, 180HP, 120 Def, 180 Sp.Def, 28 Atk
Careful
-Brick Break
-Body Slam
-Heal Bell
-Milk Drink

EDIT: I like the Second one better. My main concern is DDtar, who can become a big problem after a DD so i don't wont to have to switch out on it. Scrappy does effect fighting as well doesnt it? (Wondertomb counter. lol)

[ThePlaya]

Well i think that miltank gets walled BIG time by Steel and rock types.But i guess thats how you want it.Although I think Heal bell should be tooken out.
Try something like this....

Miltank@Leftovers
Ability:Thick Fat
Nature:Careful
Evs:252 HP, 100 Sp.Defense, 140 Defense, 12 Attack
-Milk Drink
-Body Slam
-Earthquake
-Zen Headbutt

or.Since You want Heal Bell in there

Miltank@Lefovers
Ability:Scrappy
Nature:Careful
EVs:252 HP, 100 Sp.Defense, 140 Defense, 12 Attack
-Heal Ball
-Milk Drink
-Body Slam
-Brick Break(You DO NOT want to get walled by steal and rock types so keep a fighting move on it)

well i hope i helped...:)

[Archer]

Well i think that miltank gets walled BIG time by Steel and rock types.

Um, they both have Brick Break - What are you talking about?

[ThePlaya]

I was talking about YOUR Miltank...sorry i got you confused.

[Archer]

Do you mean the one on my first post or the one on the post above you cause thats the one i meant - its the most recent.

Fine I'll use scrappy.
Read Updated first post.

[ThePlaya]

I meant the one in your First post....stupid me:P

[Archer]

So Debate Between EQ and Brick Break (my vote is BB), while i go breed that miltank...
NOTE: FIRST POST HAS BEEN UPDATED

[Harry]

Milktank
- Body Slam / Return
- Milk Drink
- Heal Bell
- Earthquake
Item Attached: Leftovers
Ability: Scrappy / Thick Fat
EVs and Nature:
EVs: 252 HP / 148 Atk / 108 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Just wondering, but why would you try to attack common steels with brick break? I mean, steelix can take, like, 5 of those and most of the others have a dual type that resists it. they all for the most part have high Def anyways, so it would kinda be a bad idea. What I'm saying is, might not wanna worry about steels so much as other pokemon.

[ultranerd57]

Just wondering, but why would you try to attack common steels with brick break? I mean, steelix can take, like, 5 of those and most of the others have a dual type that resists it. they all for the most part have high Def anyways, so it would kinda be a bad idea. What I'm saying is, might not wanna worry about steels so much as other pokemon.

Yes, if a steel pops up you should switch to maybe I dunno a fire type or something especially for forretress or possibly a water type.

[Archer]

My main concern is TTar. I want to kill it as quickly as possible. It should take two EQs to kill it, would it be able to kill miltank with one DDed EQ?
I am going scrappy with Body Slam and EQ.

[Lumine]

My main concern is TTar. I want to kill it as quickly as possible. It should take two EQs to kill it, would it be able to kill miltank with one DDed EQ?
I am going scrappy with Body Slam and EQ.

Miltank is an alright waller, one DD'ed EQ shouldn't kill it I'm guessing it should survive with at least low yellow HP

[Archer]

Yeah i used netbattles damage calculator. Then i can kill it and heal. Why can't i find a damn Miltank with the right nature. I always get the right thing in 10-15 mins, not 2 days damnit. If anyone has an Untrained Impish Scrappy miltank, please tell me.

[Lumine]

Yeah i used netbattles damage calculator. Then i can kill it and heal. Why can't i find a damn Miltank with the right nature. I always get the right thing in 10-15 mins, not 2 days damnit. If anyone has an Untrained Impish Scrappy miltank, please tell me.

Keep breeding til you get one with Impish nature then give her everstone til you get one with Scrappy ability.

[Archer]

Yeah thats fine and im breeding EQ into it, but its getting the impish one thats the problem. (i know about everstone. thanx anyway)

EDIT: Just realised that i bred on rock slide as well by accident. Cool.
EDIT2: Got it.