Cloyster what do you think of this pokemon ?

[Candymancan]

Thinking of replacing my milotic with a diff pokemon, i dont really like the milotic much.

I was thinking of Kingdra but then i already have dragonite so what about a Cloyster ?

I have never used one

What do you think i think should get as a nature and where should i put the EV's ?

I was thinking a Impish Nature and Putting the EV's in Special Defense and HP, or HP and Attack, or Maybe HP/Speed ?

Im not totally sure TBH cuss his def is so high with Impish so i dont think i need to put EV's at least not many in there and his HP/SPDEF is so low i was thinking it would be best to go there.

What sorta moves do you think i should put on him? I was thinkin

Clamp
Spike Cannon
Spikes "or Toxic Spikes"
Explosion "Avalanche /iceshard ? "

Or change Impish to like Bold and have

Ice Beam
Surf
Spikes
Protect

Not totally sure but i plan to have the Skill link Ability.


If not cloyster then what do you guys think a good ice/water type that isnt extremely slow meaning like 50 and under. Or maybe i should go with fortress more hp less def tho, but he also doesnt have nearly as many weakness's only against fire

[county1883]

not sure but you could always use a lapras with high sp attack not sure which nature that is sorry
and there always swampert

[Lumine]

Cloyster @ Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 200 Def, 58 Atk
-Ice Shard
-Rapid Spin
-Explosion
-Spikes/ Toxic Spikes

[Candymancan]

why rapid spin? Asside from getting you auto wrap affect's what good is it ? Or is there something im missing.

I like the EV break out you put up ill probly do that

[Lumine]

why rapid spin? Asside from getting you auto wrap affect's what good is it ? Or is there something im missing.

I like the EV break out you put up ill probly do that

To get rid of Stealth Rock, Spikes and Toxic Spikes lol

[Candymancan]

Ah i wish the descriptions on the moves pokemon have would be a little more descriptive. even on serbuii it says the secondary affect just gets rid of Wrap and Bind affects nothing about spikes and stuff

[Lumine]

Ah i wish the descriptions on the moves pokemon have would be a little more descriptive. even on serbuii it says the secondary affect just gets ride of Wrap and Bind affects nothing about spikes and stuff

Yeh I know they should really update those details, but anyways now you know that Rapid Spin blows those annoying rocks and spikes away

EDIT: Do you need a forry set aswell?

[Candymancan]

forry set ?


Fillleeeeeeeeeeeeeeer

[boo836]

Well can't do evs but:
Cloyster
@lefties
trait:relaxed
Ice beam
explosion
rapid spin
stealth rock

[Candymancan]

Thx for the cloyster suggestion but i dunno if i like relaxed nature


Ah forry = Fortress.

Well im pretty sure i got a good fortress set.

Spikes
Rapid Spin
Earthquake
Explosion

Impish Nature

252 Speed 200 HP 52 Def

[Lumine]

Thx for the cloyster suggestion but i dunno if i like relaxed nature


Ah forry = Fortress.

Well im pretty sure i got a good fortress set.

Spikes
Rapid Spin
Earthquake
Explosion

Impish Nature

252 Speed 200 HP 52 Def

=O Forry doesn't need speed EVs lol XD

Forretress @ Leftovers
Impish/Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP / 6 ATK / 252 DEF
-Earthquake
-Spikes/Toxic Spikes (up to you both works well)
-Rapid Spin
-Explosion

[Candymancan]

=O Forry doesn't need speed EVs lol XD

Forretress @ Leftovers
Impish/Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP / 6 ATK / 252 DEF
-Earthquake
-Spikes/Toxic Spikes (up to you both works well)
-Rapid Spin
-Explosion


Yea but his speed is like 40 its terrible.. lol and my pokemon are already slow as it is lol. I will probly go with cloyster cuss he is faster.

[Lumine]

Yea but his speed is like 40 its terrible.. lol and my pokemon are already slow as it is lol. I will probly go with cloyster cuss he is faster.

If the majority of your team are slow why not add a few Trick Room users in your team?

[Candymancan]

If the majority of your team are slow why not add a few Trick Room users in your team?


Yea i was going too on one of em

[Bleach and Sunshine]

Cloyster @ Leftovers
Relaxed Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 200 Def, 58 Atk
-Ice Shard
-Ice Beam/Rest
-Explosion
-Spikes

A double Ice moveset may have it's perks. One with a high base damage. The other as an finisher.

[Lumine]

But you already have Ice Shard? and most Dragons takes Ice Shard quite painfully you know.

[Smarties-chan]

But you already have Ice Shard? and most Dragons takes Ice Shard quite painfully you know.
Cloyster only does around 50-70%-ish damage to Salamence and friends so Ice Beam is good even with Ice Shard if you want a reliable damaging move.

[Dragon Trainer Kid]

cloyster is one of my best pokes he is in my RD team

Cloyster@Damp Rock
Impish 252 Defense/ 200 SpeDefense/ 58 Attack
Explosion
Rapid Spin
RD
Toxic Spikes

Rapid Spinner+RD set up.

[Lumine]

Cloyster only does around 50-70%-ish damage to Salamence and friends so Ice Beam is good even with Ice Shard if you want a reliable damaging move.

Problem is that they could just easily swap to a special waller as most people would probably predict Ice Shard/ Ice Beam from a Cloyster, but hey it never hurts to try.