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MsBroccoli
November 12th, 2007, 06:28 PM
There was a case where a dog attacked a man because the dog thought the man was attacking his owner. I don't think he should put down, I think he had every right to protect his owner. >=[ I posted the full article below.

PRINCETON TOWNSHIP -- A family whose beloved German shepherd faces death for having led a dog attack on a landscaper is devastated by the news but vows to continue to fight to save him.

"He needs to come home," said Guy James, the Princeton homeowner who managed to call his dogs off the landscaper, but only after the worker was severely mauled in the June 5 attack.

"He's innocent. He did nothing more than protect my wife. He never bit anyone until she was grabbed and pulled to the ground," James said.

Congo has been ruled vicious by a municipal judge and ordered put down.

"As a family, it's destroyed our way of living," said James, 46. "We're just consumed with the whole thing."

The landscaper, Giovanni Rivera, has won a $250,000 insurance settlement as a result of serious injuries he sustained in the attack, which occurred when he and others disobeyed instructions from James not to get out of their car until Congo and several other dogs on the property could be sequestered for safety.

Rivera, a Trenton man, was on the 10-acre, fenced property on Stuart Road to do yard work. The landscaping crew had arrived before 7 a.m., about an hour before they were expected.

James, who was about to take a shower, called out a window to them in Spanish, telling them to get back in their car and wait because the dogs were in the backyard being fed.

While the dogs, two 2 1/2-year-old German shepherds and their four 6-month-old puppies, had not had problems with people on the property before, James said in an interview that he didn't want them to interfere with the workers. Also, he wanted the workers to wait until he was dressed so that he could tell them what to do, he said.

Instead, Rivera and another worker got out of the car after a few minutes and the dogs began to bark. That worker began to hit the dogs with a metal rake and Elizabeth James, Guy James' wife, yelled for him to stop. Meanwhile, Rivera, who was afraid of the dogs, grabbed her from behind and pulled her to the ground, causing her to scream. At that point Congo began to bite and scratch Rivera and some of the puppies joined in.

"The whole thing was pretty terrifying," Elizabeth James said. "You can't imagine. I was scared. It happened extremely fast. I didn't have time to think."

Meanwhile, her 8-year-old son, Ben, ran into the house to get his father. Moments later, Guy James hurried out and called off the dogs.

Rivera, who was treated for bites at a local hospital, settled with the couple's insurance carrier for the $250,000, Guy James said.

Rivera's lawyer, Kevin Riechelson, said his client has scars from the dog bites and scratches that may be permanent on his arms, legs and torso. Rivera still suffers from numbness in his leg but is able to walk.

"He had a really deep wound on his right thigh," Riechelson said. "Luckily, his face wasn't touched."

In addition to the $250,000 settlement, the Jameses' insurer agreed to pay medical bills and worker's compensation claims for Rivera, Riechelson said.

The Jameses' children, especially Ben who witnessed the attack, have been "crying nonstop," Elizabeth James said. "They've been on an emotional rollercoaster." Their dog has been placed in a shelter while the court process plays out.

Hannah James, 11, wrote a letter to Judge Russell Annich Jr. saying in part, "I am so upset seeing my dog locked up in jail for doing his job. When my friends are over they play with and around Congo and have no problems. I want you to know that this is coming from my heart and I mean it with all my heart and soul. Actually, my broken heart. We will never ever forget this for the rest of our lives. You have made the wrong decision in my eyes."

And Congo, who is being held at Save a Friend of Homeless Animals, is depressed and anxious, Guy James said. He now has to be hand-fed or he will not eat.

Meanwhile, James' lawyer, Robert Lytle, argued at a hearing in Municipal Court that the attack had been provoked and under New Jersey law, the dogs had a right to protect themselves and their owner.

But some, including municipal prosecutor Kim Otis, argue that the Jameses should have had control over the dogs and were negligent.

Indeed, Judge Annich found that "the prevailing circumstances did not constitute provocation and that the attack upon Mr. Rivera, initiated by Congo and subsequently by the other dogs present, continuing unabated for three minutes, was a response grossly disproportionate to the prevailing situation."

Guy James pointed to testimony from dog behavior expert and University of Pennsylvania professor Ilana Reisner, who said that in her professional opinion James' dogs were "clearly provoked."

"Based on these threats (unfamiliar individuals, perceived threatening position, the attack on the puppies with a metal rake, grabbing the owner from behind and pulling to the ground) the dogs were compelled to defend themselves and their owner," Reisner wrote.

"I am so sorry for what happened but it was not out of viciousness," Guy James said. "This was a provoked attack and any dog would protect its owner in the same manner. I can't imagine that any dog -- who was beat with a rake, hard enough to cause bloody gashes, and then had its owner grabbed from behind -- would walk away without action."

Guy James also garnered statements from several people who had been on his property and attested to the dogs' friendly behavior, including John Pettenati, the township building inspector. In fact Pettenati nicknamed them "the happy dogs" because they were so pleasant.

Guy James said that while he and his family were waiting for their house to be finished they lived for several months at a hotel. During that time Congo and his mate, Lucia, interacted with maids and others and never caused a problem, he said.

James also sent Congo and Lucia to the American Dog School in Denver for obedience training. James stressed that the dogs were trained for obedience, not as guard dogs. The four puppies are currently at that school, he said. Five of their siblings were adopted and one of those dogs is being trained to be a police dog in Pennsylvania, Guy James said.

Meanwhile, an article in The Times and reports in other media outlets have spurred the public into action on Congo's behalf.

Kat McAfee of the Coalition for Action in the Interests of Animals has organized the Coalition to Free Congo. She expects hundreds to come to a rally Tuesday at 10 a.m. at the municipal building at 400 Witherspoon St. in Princeton.

McAfee said they hope to save Congo's life by "bringing pressure on the powers that be."

Annich is expected to place his ruling on the record Tuesday afternoon.

For his part, Guy James said he has received thousands of letters and e-mails and thanked those who have offered their support.

"Congo is a fantastic family pet who is loved by everyone we know and many we don't," James said. "We will not let this rest for the sake of all dogs and their owners, and most of all, our family and Congo."

Guy James plans to appeal Annich's ruling to Superior Court.

"We will fight with all our love and support from friends and strangers until he is back with us," he said.

Owl
November 12th, 2007, 06:32 PM
This is a discussion better suited for Other Chat, I'll move it for you.

Memory
November 12th, 2007, 07:16 PM
No I don't think that poor dog should be put down ><! It's unfair how a lot of these things work....

"The landscaper, Giovanni Rivera, has won a $250,000 insurance settlement as a result of serious injuries he sustained in the attack, which occurred when he and others disobeyed instructions from James not to get out of their car until Congo and several other dogs on the property could be sequestered for safety."

..Oh, come on. x.x He got $250,000 for disobeying instructions from someone else. Lovely. <3

Nacon
November 12th, 2007, 08:22 PM
basically.... people are idiots......

that dog only did its job... and seeing that there's a little kid living in the house and all of that... it seems like it knows when to behave, too........

I hope they get it appealed and file a countersuit on that moron.

Jordan
November 12th, 2007, 08:40 PM
Seeing as the worker is still able to walk, I believe that $250,000 is fair compensation.

Jordan.

Melody
November 12th, 2007, 08:57 PM
I think the guy is lucky to even get compensation. If I were the dog's owner I'd not pay him a cent. Seriously. The dogs were provoked. Not many men nor beasts would stand by and watch their loved ones being attacked and do nothing.

The dog was merely doing part of what nature created it to do. Protect it's offspring and it's master. (I say protect it's master because if an alpha dog of a pack gets attacked then the whole pack will join in to defend unless the alpha dog sends them away. a dog's master is basically an "alpha dog" to the dog. It will fight to protect it's 'Pack')

This is basic dog behavior that cannot be changed no matter what. I feel that the dog is being unfairly held and should be returned to it's owners now.

Zet
November 12th, 2007, 10:06 PM
That dog should not be put down, the guys disobeyed what james said, how can they even win a case disobeying people?
also how can those workers not be charged with assault towards the dogs and wife?

Amachi
November 13th, 2007, 01:26 AM
This is just absurd. Did they just ignore the brutality placed upon the puppies and the assault of the wife?

As Jordan said, $250,000 is fair enough compensation, but the dog shouldn't have to be put down, at least not in my opinion. It just doesn't seem fair. It's like sending a man to prison if he were to inflict injuries upon a criminal assaulting his wife or something. I know human and animal rights aren't necessarily equal, but people should be able to make this comparison and see how ridiculous they're being :/

Chompah :x
November 13th, 2007, 01:31 AM
The landscaper is a Douche for not listening and pulling over someones wife and hitting a dog with a rake.
He had it coming..

Jubilation
November 13th, 2007, 01:36 AM
I'm starting to love animals more & more, so why would you attempt to get the dog 'put down'.

PLatinumUser
November 13th, 2007, 11:17 AM
As a animal lover no i dont think he should be put down. I have a German sheperd he is 9 now name is einstein.

A dog attacked him while we were walkin him one day and my mom got hurt in the process but we still didnt want the dog to be put down.

Think of it like this, if the dog was your's how would you like it if someone else wanted to kill it ?

Red1530
November 13th, 2007, 11:34 AM
also how can those workers not be charged with assault towards the dogs and wife?I am wondering the same thing as well. I think the dog should not be put down and the idiot how attack the other dogs and home owner's wife should be charged with cruelty to animals and assault.

Zanacross
November 13th, 2007, 04:39 PM
if it was me id kill the git that got bit for attacking my wife. or even looking like it

Happy Dude
November 14th, 2007, 12:50 AM
Grabbing someone by the leg and pulling them down is Not assault..............

The dogs Don't deserve to be put down but knowing these kinds of dogs are likely OR More then likely to attack someone. Shouldn't they of been tied up? or at least put out of the workers way.

No I don't Think the dogs should be put down but I think Both sides could of done something to prevent this quite easily

♥~*Abby*~♥
November 15th, 2007, 02:35 PM
No, he was only protecting his owner. And plus, I don't like the idea's of putting down hostile dogs unless they're really, really hostile.

Idiot!
November 15th, 2007, 08:16 PM
There are people who were attacked by even more vicious animals. Sharks, elephants etc. Many of the survivors had the heart to forgive the animals. If a survivor can forgive crocodiles and lions, how can the workers not forgive a dog?

The dog should not be put down.

oreobytes
November 15th, 2007, 08:26 PM
people are retarded.
end of story.
=/

ItzMike
November 19th, 2007, 02:41 AM
There are people who were attacked by even more vicious animals. Sharks, elephants etc. Many of the survivors had the heart to forgive the animals. If a survivor can forgive crocodiles and lions, how can the workers not forgive a dog?

The dog should not be put down.


Because the worker is a vicious little wanker who derserves nothing more to be shot

Go DOGS

Zet
November 19th, 2007, 04:16 AM
Grabbing someone by the leg and pulling them down is Not assault..............

The dogs Don't deserve to be put down but knowing these kinds of dogs are likely OR More then likely to attack someone. Shouldn't they of been tied up? or at least put out of the workers way.

No I don't Think the dogs should be put down but I think Both sides could of done something to prevent this quite easily

dude didn't you read all of it? James told the workers not get out of the vehicle until the dogs were put out of their way from working

Happy Dude
November 20th, 2007, 01:18 AM
dude didn't you read all of it? James told the workers not get out of the vehicle until the dogs were put out of their way from workingNo, I read the whole thing and still standby everything I said.

I think certain things could of been done on BOTH Ends to prevent this.

lilninjapig
November 20th, 2007, 07:07 AM
Well, I disagree with you, they SHOULD have followed instruction - I wouldn't walk into a yard full fo dogs if I was told not to...

So, is this what is going on? The man got out of his car, and just started beating the dog with a metal rake? The article doesn't make it completely clear...

lonewolfx44
November 20th, 2007, 11:21 AM
I was born in Princeton!!!!!!
And yes, that dog should be put down. I hate dogs >.<. I can stand them, but I don't want them around when I go home from college. One less dog to worry about ^^


*was being sarcastic*

Lady Nicole
November 21st, 2007, 02:12 AM
Please don't talk to me about killing dogs...:'(

Zet
November 21st, 2007, 02:56 AM
Grabbing someone by the leg and pulling them down is Not assault..............

forgot to point this out but that is counted as assault, it's also known as girl bashing/violence against women considering the guy grabbed and pulled(think they meant pushed) Guy James wife to the ground

Happy Dude
November 21st, 2007, 02:59 AM
I can assure you It is NOT assault.

The man has obviously freaked out and just pulled her down he wasn't intending to "Girl Bash" her.

Zet
November 21st, 2007, 03:15 AM
it was before the dogs started attacking him

heres to tell about physical violence
* hit, punch, slap, push, bite, kick or try to strangle you
* break your bones or burn you
* use weapons against you or threaten to use weapons against you and/or
* break your things or hurt your pets

as you can see there is pushing in there

Avolition
November 22nd, 2007, 02:56 PM
You see, this is why I hate people. The dog was doing its freaking job, and now it's being put down? I think the man should be the one who gets in trouble. But since people say humans deserve more than animals even when the animal did its job and the human is the bad one, the person is getting off the hook, and HE'S GETTING PAID! That is so retarded.

AnimeDDR110
November 22nd, 2007, 03:58 PM
no. that is very wrong. it was an accident. whoever the person who got attacked by was, come pm me. i will TALK too you.

Avolition
November 23rd, 2007, 12:27 PM
Yes, and PM me too. I will kick your ass.