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evilcheese
December 1st, 2007, 12:08 AM
Celebi @ Leftovers **VoiceOfTheForest
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 120 Def / 148 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Heal Bell
- Leech Seed
- Psychic / Hidden Power [Fire / Electric] / Energy Ball
- Recover
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Magnezone @ Life Orb
Nature: Rash
Trait: Magnet Pull
EV Spread: 88 HP / 88 ATK / 84 SPD / 252 SPATK

Thunderbolt
Explosion
Hidden Power [Ice]
Substitute
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Medicham @ Choice Scarf **Bruce Lee
Trait: Pure Power
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd/ 6 HP
Adamant Nature (-SAtk, +Atk)
- Brick Break
- Psycho Cut
- Thunder Punch
- Ice Punch
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Porygon-Z @ Choice Scarf **????????????
Trait: Download
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd/ 6 HP
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- T-Bolt
- Ice Beam
- Shadow Ball
- Tri Attack
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Bronzong @ Leftovers **Big Bell
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Def / 172 SDef / 6 Atk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Hypnosis
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball
- Explosion
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Donphan @ Leftovers **Pointy Roller!
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 96 Atk / 160 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Ice Shard
- Rest
- Rapid Spin
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Mike™
December 1st, 2007, 12:21 AM
The Title tricked me. x.X

Gallade @ Expert Belt / Life Orb / Leftovers / Scope Lens / Choice Band
Trait: Steadfast
EV's: 236 HP / 252 Atk / 20 Spe
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Close Combat
- Psycho Cut
- Night Slash
- Thunder Wave / Will-o-Wisp / Leaf Blade. There's no Choice Set, and it's best to run the Standards. IMO.

Dragonzilla
December 1st, 2007, 12:39 AM
Celebi @ Leftovers **VoiceOfTheForest
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 120 Def / 148 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Heal Bell
- Leech Seed
- Psychic / Hidden Power [Fire / Electric] / Energy Ball
- Recover
k,ur nickname is SO creative...lol, but other wise good
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Rampardos @ Focus Sash **Im Hungry!
Trait: Mold Breaker
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (-SAtk, +Atk)
- Rock Polish
- Stone Edge
- Crunch
- Earthquake
rock polish is beastly...
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Gallade @ Choice Scarf **刃
Trait: Steadfast
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd/ 6 HP
Adamant Nature (-SAtk, +Atk)
- Close Combat
- Psycho Cut
- Night Slash
- Leaf Blade
not its best porpse use itachi's set...
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Porygon-Z @ Choice Scarf **????????????
Trait: Download
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd/ 6 HP
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- T-Bolt
- Ice Beam
- Dark Pulse
- Tri Attack
dark pulse has bertter coverage
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Bronzong @ Leftovers **Big Bell
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Def / 172 SDef / 6 Atk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Hypnosis
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball
- Explosion
whadever i don't liek the idea of blowing up my wall but...
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Donphan @ Leftovers **Pointy Roller!
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 96 Atk / 160 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Ice Shard
- Rest
- Rapid Spin
Good
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read the bold print please...

evilcheese
December 1st, 2007, 12:41 AM
ok arent dark pulse and shadow ball the same?

Mike™
December 1st, 2007, 12:47 AM
ok arent dark pulse and shadow ball the same?

Pretty much, yeah. But Lol'ing at this. He replaced Shadow ball with the Move in Bold, I would read in again.

Dragonzilla
December 1st, 2007, 12:49 AM
ok arent dark pulse and shadow ball the same?

well i prefer dark pulse cauz on shoddy people use anything so girafagrig resists shadow ball and it would be best if ur prepared for anything..... and if the hax gods are in ur favor it can flinch...

evilcheese
December 1st, 2007, 12:51 AM
actullay i have had hax luck so i guess dark pulse is good. only thing is gallade and medicham resist dark pulse

Dark_Azelf
December 1st, 2007, 12:53 AM
ok arent dark pulse and shadow ball the same?

Shadow Ball gets walled by normal types, thats why Dark Pulse is generally preferred, so they dont get a free switch in. Although Shadow ball does help more against heracross.


Also use Itachi's Gallade set, i did do damage calculations to prove how bulky it is on one thread, it takes about 79% damage from timid Gengar's Shadow Ball, by which time you should of thunderwaved and Psycho Cutted the hell out of Gengar.

If your looking for a Psychic/Fighting Choice Scarf abusing pokemon Medicham does it oh so much better due to its ability pure power.

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
December 1st, 2007, 01:34 AM
Celebi @ Leftovers **VoiceOfTheForest
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 120 Def / 148 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Heal Bell
- Leech Seed
- Psychic
- Recover

Good. A team that actually has a beller. Don't lead with this though.

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Rampardos @ Focus Sash **Im Hungry!
Trait: Mold Breaker
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (-SAtk, +Atk)
- Rock Polish
- Stone Edge
- Crunch
- Earthquake

Um, sure.

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Gallade @ Choice Scarf **刃
Trait: Steadfast
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd/ 6 HP
Adamant Nature (-SAtk, +Atk)
- Close Combat
- Psycho Cut
- Night Slash
- Leaf Blade

Medicham runs this SO much better. If you want gallade, I suggest running double status.

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Porygon-Z @ Choice Scarf **????????????
Trait: Download
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd/ 6 HP
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- T-Bolt
- Ice Beam
- Shadow Ball / Dark Pulse
- Tri Attack

Cool.

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Bronzong @ Leftovers **Big Bell
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Def / 172 SDef / 6 Atk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Hypnosis
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball
- Rest

you would benefit a lot with rest because you have cleric support.

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Donphan @ Leftovers **Pointy Roller!
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 96 Atk / 160 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Ice Shard
- Rest
- Rapid Spin

Good.

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It looks pretty solid overall. I'd have to analyze it a bit more...and you'll want more than one special attackers, otherwise skarm kind of laughs at you :/

evilcheese
December 1st, 2007, 01:52 AM
ok i decided to run medicham. and if i need a special attacker who should i replace?

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
December 1st, 2007, 01:53 AM
ok i decided to run medicham. and if i need a special attacker who should i replace?

Um, rampardos since you're using medicham. no need for both. Magnezone would be of benefit to beat skarm and maybe bliss (metal sound FTW).

evilcheese
December 1st, 2007, 01:59 AM
i use to run a magnezone on this team.

Magnezone @Life Orb
Trait:Magnet Pull
Timid Nature
EV's: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk 6 HP
-Explosion
-T-Bolt
-Hidden Power [ice]/[Fire]
-Flash Cannon

other than that i need to know my lead i was running bronzong and started with stealth rock. i usually see no rapid spinners these days except for fortress

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
December 1st, 2007, 02:01 AM
Explosion won't be doing anything with timid...why are you pumpimg a slow pokemon speed? Give it bulk, bulk, and more bulk ;) Sub over flash cannon also.

evilcheese
December 1st, 2007, 02:03 AM
he actually destroyed ALOT of Blisseys. but i know not of a bulky set

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
December 1st, 2007, 02:07 AM
he actually destroyed ALOT of Blisseys. but i know not of a bulky set

...how? It has terrible base Atk, lowering even more isn't going to hurt the puffball much. It'll probably take 50%-70% (VERY rough estimate) but no way it gets even close to a OHKO.

Samson
December 1st, 2007, 02:12 AM
yah magnezone doesn't do much with explosion even with nuetral nature. mine has always had explosion, but it's not designated just for blissey. it's really helpful against anyone who would otherwise keel it =/

evilcheese
December 1st, 2007, 02:13 AM
maybe it was bronzong i forgot well anyway can someone give me a bulky set. oh and help me decide for my lead

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
December 1st, 2007, 02:14 AM
Lead with Pory Z or medicham. that way you start with a bang ;)

Dragonzilla
December 1st, 2007, 02:14 AM
...how? It has terrible base Atk, lowering even more isn't going to hurt the puffball much. It'll probably take 50%-70% (VERY rough estimate) but no way it gets even close to a OHKO.

hmmm in my battle w/ loquatcy (srry if i spelt it wrong) his magnezone usd explosion and OHKO my blissy... not sure what nature/ev's he ran...

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
December 1st, 2007, 02:40 AM
hmmm in my battle w/ loquatcy (srry if i spelt it wrong) his magnezone usd explosion and OHKO my blissy... not sure what nature/ev's he ran...

Those are Richard's EVs probably, which do I think 87% to standard blissey :0 I'd have to check, but that's probably it.

Shiraishi
December 1st, 2007, 03:37 AM
When I only have 1 special attacker, I stick a mixed sweeper in there. Rampy has a EQ weaknesses so using Electivire wouldn't change your weaknesses a lot.

Electivire@Expert belt
Lonely
172 Spd/80 SP atk/252 Atk
ThunderBolt
Ice punch
EQ
Cross chop

Whee.

Britney Spears
December 1st, 2007, 05:04 AM
Magnezone @ Life Orb
Nature: Rash
Trait: Magnet Pull
EV Spread: 88 HP / 88 ATK / 84 SPD / 252 SPATK

Thunderbolt
Explosion
Hidden Power [Ice]
Substitute


My favorite Skarmbliss killer. Works well with a Knock Off User (in my case, I use it in tandem with Slowbro + Tangrowth) who ensures no Shed Shell on Skarmory.

evilcheese
December 2nd, 2007, 12:07 AM
ok i replaced rampardos. ok anymore advice for my team?