New Shoddy Team!!!

[Knight of Three]

Please rate my 2nd Shoddy Battle Team:
RedAssasin (Gyarados) (♂) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 214 HP/16 Atk/180 Def/100 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Taunt
- Earthquake
- Waterfall

Tauntrados
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Smileydevil (Gengar) (♂) @ Wide Lens
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Focus Blast

Special Sweeper
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Zappah (Electivire) (♂) @ Expert Belt
Ability: Motor Drive
EVs: 200 Atk/210 Spd/100 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Earthquake
- Thunderbolt
- Cross Chop
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Mixed Sweeper, HP [Ice] is a novelty.
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NurseBeast (Blissey) (♀) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave

Basic Defensive Bliss and Cleric.
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BiteMyShinyMetalAss (Skarmory) (♂) @ Leftovers
Ability: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 Spd
Impish nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Roost
- Stealth Rock
- Whirlwind
- Drill Peck

Trap setter, Physical wall, and Phazer.
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Noctowl3 (Claydol) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/144 Def/114 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Rapid Spin
- Rest
- Charge Beam
- Ice Beam

Mixed Wall and Spinner

[Mike™]

I'd use Stone Edge and Waterfall for best coverage on Gyarados.

[Eos Aduro]

Thunder Wave/Counter/Ice Beam I totally love Counter on her, its so evil.

[Dragonzilla]

Thunder Wave/Counter/Ice Beam I totally love Counter on her, its so evil.

i would totaly agree on my first wifi battle ever a guy had a blissy w/ conter adn it killed like half of my team I hated blissy so much...until i used 1...:badsmile:

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

I'd use Stone Edge and Waterfall for best coverage on Gyarados.

Um, lol

The best coverage is actually quakeslide (EQ and stone edge in this case) or ice fang and EQ. And that gyara fails against bulky waters terribly. Besdies, RR's set is fine. I love when people try to fix sets that AREN'T BROKEN.

Spikes over SR on skarm though. It's a bit of personal preference, but 3 layers of spikes >>>>> SR because it does way more damage in most cases ;)

[SpaceMuffin]

I would give Electivire Thunder Punch instead of Thunderbolt because Electivire's attack stat is higher than its Special Attack.

Claydol
Nature: Relaxed (+Def -Speed) He's not very fast to begin with.
-Earthquake because Earthquake to hit every Pokémon for at least neutral damage.
-Psychic because psychic however is usable for the occasional Gengar switch ins which occur on a somewhat common basis, since Gengar along with Dusclops are the two core ghosts used to block Rapid Spin.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Tbolt is for skarm killing mostly, though Tpunch works just as well (if not better) than bolt.

[Knight of Three]

Thunder Wave/Counter/Ice Beam I totally love Counter on her, its so evil.I think I will!:badsmile:, I think I will still use Charge Beam and Ice Beam(BoltBeam)plus, the stats raise isn't something to be ignore.Does anyone note any big weakness?

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

I think I will!:badsmile:, I think I will still use Charge Beam and Ice Beam(BoltBeam)plus, the stats raise isn't something to be ignore.Does anyone note any big weakness?

You can't really run boltbeam and counter on bliss...it just wouldn't work...IMO

[Knight of Three]

You can't really run boltbeam and counter on bliss...it just wouldn't work...IMOI mean on Claydol, any big weakness Anti?

[Eos Aduro]

Gengar can take down 4 of your pokes, and watch out for Bolt Beamers, but otherwise else you;re good.

[Knight of Three]

Gengar can take down 4 of your pokes, and watch out for Bolt Beamers, but otherwise else you;re good.And Nasty Plot persian, just kicked my team's butt on Shoddy.

[Eos Aduro]

Oh Hypnosis Nasty Plot ones, I hate those.

[Knight of Three]

Oh Hypnosis Nasty Plot ones, I hate those.Who did you battle that had one?,for me it was somethingcorax.

[Eos Aduro]

Dont quite remember, I've played two. I would give Gengar a Focus Sash, but thats just me.

[Archer]

Thats a nice team you have there. Very standard, but nice. Well rounded. If you got smashed by a Nasty Plotter, then maybe you should add another (P)Hazer. One that can take Special hits would be nice.

Yeah my gengar has focus sash. Wide lens seems in vain when it only helps Focus Blast.

@SpaceMuffin - You also need to understand that Tbolt is 20 power higher than Thunderpunch.

[SpaceMuffin]

@SpaceMuffin - You also need to understand that Tbolt is 20 power higher than Thunderpunch.

But it does make a difference between a Electivire using Tbolt with a SAtk: 195(lv. 50);289(lv. 100) / and Tpunch with an Atk: 251(lv. 50);345(lv. 100). Which will hurt more? Regardless of what the attacks power is, it all depends on what stat the poke is good at.

(Atk power) + (Atk stat) = (total damage) - (foe's defense) = (how much it hurts)
(x2) if it is super effective
(x0.5) if it is not effective

For example, its like giving Blissey earthquake, it ain't going to cause any major damage, because it isn't supposed to be an attacker, but a special wall or a cleric. If a Blissey used earthquake it wouldn't hurt much, even if it is super effective.

[Eos Aduro]

You seem to be counting out the factor of SPECIAL defense. Skarmorys specisal defense is lower than its physical defense, Thunderbolt hits it much harder.

[Britney Spears]

There's a reason Thunderbolt is used on Electivire: to ensure Electivire isn't walled by Pokemon with high Defense.

[SpaceMuffin]

You seem to be counting out the factor of SPECIAL defense. Skarmorys specisal defense is lower than its physical defense, Thunderbolt hits it much harder.

Only if it is a Skarmory killer would it need Tbolt.

But it can go both ways. I was talking to CosmicWaffle in RL and he says that he would favor Electivire be more of a atk based pokemon. Although you could have a special move on him if you want. (CosmicWaffle has beaten every pokemon game ever made and has all his pokes at lv.100; except Diamond: pokes at lv. 75)

Plus, I was only giving a suggestion.

[Eos Aduro]

Well Skarmory killing is a key part of any strategy, and it csan OHKO most things that Thunder Punch will anyways.