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ultranerd57
December 1st, 2007, 06:46 PM
Cresselia @ lefties
252hp/ 172spdef/ 86def
Relaxed
Rest
Charge beam
Psychic
Thunder wave



Electrivire
Standard mixed Vire really shouldn't have to post it ( yea laziness)


Heatran@ choice scarf
Modest
56hp/ 252spatk/ 200spd
Flash fire
Flamethrower
Dragon Pulse
HP Ice
EP




Poliwrath@lefties
Water Absorb
252hp/ 252atk/ 6spd
Adamant
Hypnosis
Waterfall
sub
focus punch



Skarmory@ shed shell
252hp/ 120spdef/ 104def/ 34atk
Impish
-Brave bird
-Roost
-Whirlwind
-Spikes



Ninetails @ wide lens
Timid
252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
-Nasty plot
-Flamethrower
-Hypnosis
-Energy ball
Meganium is the weakest link in my team thinking of changing it to a pokemon with Early Bird or Insomnia to counter Hypnosis but not sure.

RMT away

Samson
December 1st, 2007, 07:20 PM
meganium... weakest link??!!

try this:

Meganium @ Leftovers/Enigma Berry/Lum Berry
Bold/Impish Nature
252 HP/252 DEF/4 SPD
-Energy Ball/Earthquake
-Counter
-Leech Seed/Light Screen/Reflect
-Substitute/Protect/Safeguard

counter on it is AWESOME. the subseed is usual use of some faster grass types which is why you trick your opponent into thinking it is subseed, let them break your sub, and use counter on the next turn. after the first counter, just keep subseeding until you can make use of counter or until you can bring a sweeper in. yes it can take SE hits very well. weavile ice punch... no biggie. ice beam from bulky waters... lolk. however, a overheat from heatran or flamethrower from specs salamence? get real ._.

meganium works for me -- brilliantly, but you already have skarmory and cresselia doing what it does much better. so get rid of it because you need a bulky attacker and not because it's bad.

moonlight is bad. like 60% of teams have weather now and that makes moonlight useful only 60% of the time. i highly suggest replacing it with reflect.

standard mixed electivire huh... =/

skarmory... relaxed? that might turn out to hurt you once in a while. one reason skarmory is such a succesful wall is because it also has a competitive base speed of 70. just give it impish. you don't need sp atk at all.

problems i see with this team: you need harder hitters. i'd suggest giving something CB or CSpecs. if not that. give someone the ability to boost their stats to go for a sweep. so of course that means get rid of meganium.

ultranerd57
December 1st, 2007, 08:17 PM
meganium... weakest link??!!

try this:

Meganium @ Leftovers/Enigma Berry/Lum Berry
Bold/Impish Nature
252 HP/252 DEF/4 SPD
-Energy Ball/Earthquake
-Counter
-Leech Seed/Light Screen/Reflect
-Substitute/Protect/Safeguard

counter on it is AWESOME. the subseed is usual use of some faster grass types which is why you trick your opponent into thinking it is subseed, let them break your sub, and use counter on the next turn. after the first counter, just keep subseeding until you can make use of counter or until you can bring a sweeper in. yes it can take SE hits very well. weavile ice punch... no biggie. ice beam from bulky waters... lolk. however, a overheat from heatran or flamethrower from specs salamence? get real ._.

meganium works for me -- brilliantly, but you already have skarmory and cresselia doing what it does much better. so get rid of it because you need a bulky attacker and not because it's bad.

moonlight is bad. like 60% of teams have weather now and that makes moonlight useful only 60% of the time. i highly suggest replacing it with reflect.

standard mixed electivire huh... =/

skarmory... relaxed? that might turn out to hurt you once in a while. one reason skarmory is such a succesful wall is because it also has a competitive base speed of 70. just give it impish. you don't need sp atk at all.

problems i see with this team: you need harder hitters. i'd suggest giving something CB or CSpecs. if not that. give someone the ability to boost their stats to go for a sweep. so of course that means get rid of meganium.

Ok so what about NP Ninetails?

Took me awhile but I found it.

Ninetails @ wide lens
Timid
252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
-Hypnosis
-Nasty plot
-Flamethrower
-Energy ball =p

Mike™
December 1st, 2007, 08:33 PM
Ok so what about NP Ninetails?

Took me awhile but I found it.

Ninetails @ wide lens
Timid
252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
-Hypnosis
-Nasty plot
-Flamethrower
-Energy ball =p

Wide Lens is lol. It doesn't increase accuracy by much on moves like Hypnosis. IMO. Any move, to be exact.

ultranerd57
December 1st, 2007, 08:38 PM
Wide Lens is lol. It doesn't increase accuracy by much on moves like Hypnosis. IMO. Any move, to be exact.

Ok so what should I use life orb us murder with two unattacking moves and it dies to fast for lefties.
Hm maybe since I've got NP I could take out spatk EVs and put it in hp.

Mike™
December 1st, 2007, 08:41 PM
Ok so what should I use life orb us murder with two unattacking moves and it dies to fast for lefties.
Hm maybe since I've got NP I could take out spatk EVs and put it in hp.

Actually, Life Orb is good. And Wide Lens isn't so bad either. Sorry about that. I forgot. ;) Leftovers / Life Orb / Wide Lens are the three choices for the Item. and your set is correct. Since this is Shoddy, run those exact Ev's. Congrats on getting the whole Set correct.

ultranerd57
December 1st, 2007, 08:47 PM
Actually, Life Orb is good. And Wide Lens isn't so bad either. Sorry about that. I forgot. ;) Leftovers / Life Orb / Wide Lens are the three choices for the Item. and your set is correct. Since this is Shoddy, run those exact Ev's. Congrats on getting the whole Set correct.

Yay I got it right. =]
So is there any major weakness that I need to counter or is it decent now?

Mike™
December 1st, 2007, 08:49 PM
Electric Weakness. Poliwrath, Skarmory, and Suicune. That's half your Team. But you have e-Vire. So no glaring weaknesses.;)

Syaoran
December 1st, 2007, 08:50 PM
Standard Electivire is getting old. I will suggest my new idea: Sub Electivire. It works best when getting a speed boost. Lure them to attack your Skarmory with Thunderbolt, switch to Electivire, Substitute on their switch. Also prevents getting owned by Dugtrio.

Electivire @ Expert Belt / Life Orb
Hasty / Mild (Speed VS Sp.Atk)
252 Sp.Atk / 252 Speed / 4 Atk (EVs can be added to Atk if you don't think it needs that much speed)
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Thunderbolt
- HP ice



Other issues:
- Moonlight on Cresselia isn't a good idea now that weather team are everywhere. Rest is its best form of recovery.
- Choice Specs over Choice Scarf Heatran on this team please, you got a T-waving Cresselia.

ultranerd57
December 1st, 2007, 08:52 PM
Electric Weakness. Poliwrath, Skarmory, and Suicune. That's half your Team. But you have e-Vire. So no glaring weaknesses.;)

Suicune was an idea 'cause no one was posting but thnx anywaf.

Britney Spears
December 1st, 2007, 09:09 PM
Evidently, you're Garchomp weak from our battle.

He is. I was on the phone while I was typing that so I was keeping it short.

Mike™
December 1st, 2007, 09:10 PM
Evidently, you're Garchomp weak from our battle.

Who is? Me or him? x.X That was confusing.. somewhat..

ultranerd57
December 1st, 2007, 09:40 PM
I haven't won with this team in a loong time so I'm gonna scrap it and think up a new team.

You can close this now.