Umbreon moves?

[noah73x]

I just leveled my Favorite pokemom, Umbreon, to lvl 100 [:cheeky:].
and he got those moves:
Iron Tail - Steel type, Power 100, Accuracy 75, PP 24/24.
Shadow Ball - Ghost type, Power 80, Accuracy 100, PP 24/24.
Psychic - Psychic type, Power 90, Accuracy 100, PP 16/16.
Moonlight - Normal type, Restores 1/4 HP at RainDance/SandStorm/Hail, Restores 2/3 at SunnyDay and 1/2 without weather moves. PP 8/8.

My question is what moves should i change? and to what of course.
thanks for any help that comes along :P

[Kuro]

If you wish to use Umbreon for competitive battling, scrap that moveset. A traditional Umbreon would have:

-Toxic
-Mean Look
-Wish/Curse
-Baton Pass

Your standard ToxicPass-ing Umbreon. But, since you haven't bred for the egg moves, I have no idea...

[noah73x]

okey, if i'll raise another umbreon, with egg move Curse and teach it Mean Look and Toxic... how can i make it learn Baton Pass?

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Eevee learns it at lv. 36, you'll just need to hold off the evolution. BTW, run:

Bold, 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef

If you do EVs that is. But that should help ;)

[noah73x]

thx a lot... you realy helped me ^^

[noah73x]

um.... kinda nooby question... how do i change my EV's???

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

um.... kinda nooby question... how do i change my EV's???

You can't. You will have to rebreed. Make sure it has good IVs as well.

[noah73x]

M'Key... I started to make eggs of eevee until it will be bold... and on my 27 egg i belive i got a shiny eevee... it was extremely cool so i decided to keep it... i evolved eevee at lvl 37, 1 lvl after he learned Botom Pass and kept training him... here his stats now, please rate them:
Shiny Umbreon lv. 76
Rash nature [know it's not bold.. but he's shiny.. and i love him lol]
HP 265/265
atk 123
def 214
sp.atk 129
sp.def 214
speed 135
Ability - Synchronize - pass status problems to his enemy.

MOVES [all of thier PP's are Maxed]:
Toxic, Mean Look, Curse, Batom Pass

remember it's my 1st pokemon that wasn't made for "ingame" or whatever it's called... :embarrass

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Rash defeats the purpose of using it. But what are its EVs?

[noah73x]

what is EV??? how much point is it up atk,spd,def each time it lvls?

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Read up on EVs and IVs. Otherwise you aren't going to be winning anything. Check Stragies and Movesets in the "Compiled Guides" sticky thread for info.

And it NEEDS bold.

[Shiny Umbreon]

Remember Umbreon is not good to attack, so you can't have your first moveset.

The other Umbreon should be okay, but don't use it just because it's shiny (yes, I am telling you that, XD) because they normally have a bad nature and bad IVs. Just rebreed and get a good nonshiny Umbreon.

[Careful With That Axe, Pichu!]

Off to Strategies & Movesets, where it should've been posted in the first place.

moved

[Myoko-chan]

Im not very good with Umbreon, but I think this is right.

Umbreon @ Leftovers
Bold Nature
(EV's: 200 Def, 55 HP, 255 Sp.Def)
-Thunder Wave
-Confuse Ray/ ?Attack Move?
-Moonlight
-Mean Look

Strategy- Mean Look, Thunder Wave, then Confuse Ray/?Attack Move?, Moonlight if Low HP

And LOL at SU's comment about Shiny Umbreons

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Im not very good with Umbreon, but I think this is right.

Umbreon @ Leftovers
Bold Nature
(EV's: 252 Def, 252 HP, 4 Sp.Def)
-baton pass
-Confuse Ray/ toxic / curse
-wish
-Mean Look

Strategy- Mean Look, Thunder Wave, then Confuse Ray/?Attack Move?, Moonlight if Low HP

And LOL at SU's comment about Shiny Umbreons

I could've sworn umbreon couldn't learn thunder wave O_o

But the edit is standard. It always carries max Def and HP, a sit needs it to stave off physical threats.

[Mike™]

Im not very good with Umbreon, but I think this is right.

Umbreon @ Leftovers
Bold Nature
(EV's: 200 Def, 55 HP, 255 Sp.Def)
-Thunder Wave
-Confuse Ray/ ?Attack Move?
-Moonlight
-Mean Look

Strategy- Mean Look, Thunder Wave, then Confuse Ray/?Attack Move?, Moonlight if Low HP

And LOL at SU's comment about Shiny Umbreons

Wow. Just wow. And you're talking about Loli'ng at SU? He needs Dark Pulse for the hope of an attacking move. Can it learn THunder Wave? Last I checked, it can't. :/

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Wow. Just wow. And you're talking about Loli'ng at SU? He needs Dark Pulse for the hope of an attacking move. Can it learn THunder Wave? Last I checked, it can't. :/

Really, I'm getting horribly with these kinds of comments. Shiny's comment was a joke, it has nothing to do with battling.

And dark pulse SUCKS on umbreon. Good luck with 60 base SAtk.

[Mike™]

Really, I'm getting horribly with these kinds of comments. Shiny's comment was a joke, it has nothing to do with battling.

And dark pulse SUCKS on umbreon. Good luck with 60 base SAtk.

a. If you actually read, I said nothing about SU, except this, which was in reply to Angel Shaymin: Wow. Just wow. And you're talking about Loli'ng at SU? b. I'll agree with you on that. kthnxbai.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Now, I post based on what Elie Wiesel once said, which (roughly) was "always challenge those who are certain of what they are saying" (again, a rough estimate there). how is this relevant? Well, you seemed so certain and you still do, yet you're wrong.

I know your response was to Angel Shaymin, I can see the quote you know. I also know that when she said "loling at SU" she meant the comments about how he said not to use the Shiny Umbreon. And then you go "And you're talking about loling at SU?" Come on now, maybe instead of questioning if I read your post you should read hers ;/

Now then, about umbreon...I actually remember that forgotten set now :0 It is using curse in conjunction with payback to deal lots of damage. The standard is better IMO, but it can work. Also, while nobody uses it at all-EVER, it can make fairly decent use of curse and quixck attack. Novelty, but it's fun to nail sweepers ;) though flareon does it better (did I just say that? O_o)

Note that if you use umbreon, you'll need pokemon that can make use of its wish support and trapping. The best pokemon for this are pokemon like Raikou who need to set up. you can trap an outmatched opponent, power up, and watch nothing be able to stop you.

[Dark_Azelf]

Now, I post based on what Elie Wiesel once said, which (roughly) was "always challenge those who are certain of what they are saying" (again, a rough estimate there). how is this relevant? Well, you seemed so certain and you still do, yet you're wrong.

I know your response was to Angel Shaymin, I can see the quote you know. I also know that when she said "loling at SU" she meant the comments about how he said not to use the Shiny Umbreon. And then you go "And you're talking about loling at SU?" Come on now, maybe instead of questioning if I read your post you should read hers ;/

Now then, about umbreon...I actually remember that forgotten set now :0 It is using curse in conjunction with payback to deal lots of damage. The standard is better IMO, but it can work. Also, while nobody uses it at all-EVER, it can make fairly decent use of curse and quixck attack. Novelty, but it's fun to nail sweepers ;) though flareon does it better (did I just say that? O_o)

Note that if you use umbreon, you'll need pokemon that can make use of its wish support and trapping. The best pokemon for this are pokemon like Raikou who need to set up. you can trap an outmatched opponent, power up, and watch nothing be able to stop you.


Umbreon@Lefotvers
Bold Nature
252 HP 252 DEF 6 SP.DEF (PHYS WALL) OR 252 HP 252 SP.DEF 6 DEF (SP.WALL)
- Payback
- Curse
- Wish
- Baton pass / Protect / Taunt

Curse and Payback make its attack "decent" aswell as buffing up its def.

Wish is its best instant healing move aswell as providing team support.

Baton Pass if you wish to pass those Curses.

Protect to activate Wish.

Taunt can be placed in any moveslot if you dont want to get phazed.



You can try the Baton trap set in which you replace Curse for Mean Look and Payback for Yawn and run Baton Pass in that last slot.

It needs Bold or you will get hammered in competitive battling. Keep the Shiny as a trophy nothing more, it will do you no good competitively.


Bold.Umbreon. Do !!

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Ah, taunt, forgot about that one :P Well, it makes quite good use of it since many pokemon will try to stall you out or taunt you itself :0

[Marten_NL]

I think u can use a baton pass umbreon, thats always usefull

Baton Pass
Swords Dance
Payback
Substitute

[BeachBoy]

Holy biscuit Marten_NL, this thread is from '07. Don't revive threads past a month old. o_o