Regice's Revenge

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

lol, I had WAY too much free time on my hands today, but I managed to come up with an...interesting Regice set. Skarmbliss killer.

Regice @ Leftovers / Lum Berry
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 140 HP / 240 Atk / 56 Def / 16 SAtk / 56 SDef
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Ice Beam / Rest / Psych Up / Thunder Wave / Toxic
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

This set provides a 2HKO on both skarm and bliss. loling at skarmbliss

It could obviously use some work, but what are your tyhoughts on how I can improve this? No "This sucks" comments please. So, could it work?

Thanks to all ^_^

[Mike™]

Er.. Is it Calm or Sassy, Anti-Pop?

[Dark_Azelf]

lol, I had WAY too much free time on my hands today, but I managed to come up with an...interesting Regice set. Skarmbliss killer.

Regice @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 104 Atk / 56 Def / 16 SAtk / 80 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Curse
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Thunderbolt

After one curse, bliss is 2HKOed by focus punch. It does 50%-58%, though I'm still in the process of double-checking that. Thunderbolt is a happier story-it does 56%-66% to standard max HP, no SDef EVed skarmory. 2HKO FTW.

It could obviously use some work, but what are your tyhoughts on how I can improve this? No "This sucks" comments please. So, could it work?

Thanks to all ^_^


REGI-BOAH !!!!

Hmm it gets outsped by Blissey after a Curse though allowing for Thunderwave and i dont think Regice can make big enough subs to save it from seismic toss.

Looks ok, but it'd need speed baton passed to it i think.

[Mike™]

REGI-BOAH !!!!

Hmm it gets outsped by Blissey after a Curse though allowing for Thunderwave and i dont think Regice can make big enough subs to save it from seismic toss.

Looks ok, but it'd need speed baton passed to it i think.

Name for regice of the day. Sweet.

[joangaes]

I think is a very good strategy because regice isn't beaten easily.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Sassy, I edited it, since I might as well take away Spd.

Well, Twave is a nuisance, but the idea is to switch into skarm, who will sureley flee while you can safely set up a sub and something will switch in, probably bliss. Since what can you do to it? Curse while it breaks your sub. Since Regice often carries rest, I don't know if it would go all-attack on me or try to paralyze me, but either way I'd be safe under a sub again after that turn, unless para hax destroys me. Maybe giving it a lum berry would be of benefit, yes?

[Mike™]

Sassy, I edited it, since I might as well take away Spd.

Well, Twave is a nuisance, but the idea is to switch into skarm, who will sureley flee while you can safely set up a sub and something will switch in, probably bliss. Since what can you do to it? Curse while it breaks your sub. Since Regice often carries rest, I don't know if it would go all-attack on me or try to paralyze me, but either way I'd be safe under a sub again after that turn, unless para hax destroys me. Maybe giving it a lum berry would be of benefit, yes?

Lol. Zam-Ice-Boah. 0_o Yeah, that would help some.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Okay, so lum is definately a good option. Geez I wish it had motor drive or volt absorb

So then, anything else? though I was thinking about tampering with the nature and EVs to make focus punch a 2HKO on Bliss without curse, so I could throw in rest or even ice beam. Meh, I still need to work on this lots.

[Dark_Azelf]

Okay, so lum is definately a good option. Geez I wish it had motor drive or volt absorb

So then, anything else? though I was thinking about tampering with the nature and EVs to make focus punch a 2HKO on Bliss without curse, so I could throw in rest or even ice beam. Meh, I still need to work on this lots.

You can go Brave nature and take a little more out of Hp and put it in attack, lets face it, it wont need the speed.

or you could be cheap and pass attack to it from N00bj4sk Ninjask or something

LOL McIceReg XD

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Finished!

Regice @ Leftovers / Lum Berry
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 140 HP / 240 Atk / 56 Def / 16 SAtk / 56 SDef
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Ice Beam / Rest / Psych Up
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Yes yes yes. 2HKO on both skarm and bliss. The only stat it lost in was SDef, and it is still SOLID at 450. :0

As for the last slot, I'm stuck. Psych up allows my to be able to switch in on curselax, sub up, steel its curses, and PUNCH PUNCH PUNCH. Rest for recovery, and IB for a STAB move. Any other suggestions welcome.

EDIT: McIceReg = EPIC WIN lol

[Mike™]

DA's name is much cooler. Curse you. XD. Well, as for Set Comments, 16 SAtk Isn't going to do much... 80 SDef is fine, it won't need much more then that. 56 Def Isn't going to much for it's Defense. - The rest of the EV's are fine. EDIT; I dare you to nickname it that, APCW13. Lol.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

DA's name is much cooler. Curse you. XD. Well, as for Set Comments, 16 SAtk Isn't going to do much... 80 SDef is fine, it won't need much more then that. 56 Def Isn't going to much for it's Defense. - The rest of the EV's are fine.

Dude, it's for skarmlbiss killing. It only needs to 2HKO skarm, nothing else :/ I'm not looking for a Special attacker by any means. It gives me 240 SAtk, plenty enough to 2HKO skarm.

[Mike™]

Dude, it's for skarmlbiss killing. It only needs to 2HKO skarm, nothing else :/ I'm not looking for a Special attacker by any means. It gives me 240 SAtk, plenty enough to 2HKO skarm.

Ah. I see. Well, no Comments, then. If I think of something, I'll inform you.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Okay, so now the big question, will it work in an actual battle scenario?

[Mike™]

Okay, so now the big question, will it work in an actual battle scenario?

Um. Wha? Oh. You mean through an actual Battle? Like, someone's using Blissey and Skarm? Well, I'm guessing so, if this is the case. Since SkarmBliss is oh so easy to Counter.

[Dark_Azelf]

Id go Ice Beam or Rest, because once they know your moveset they'll send stuff like Claydol after you (One that actually can frikkin attack unlike my poor excuse for a pokemon XD). On the other hand Rest will allow you to get more subs in..

Psych up is more situational.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Um. Wha? Oh. You mean through an actual Battle? Like, someone's using Blissey and Skarm? Well, I'm guessing so, if this is the case. Since SkarmBliss is oh so easy to Counter.

Of course a real battle. No, a fake one! Um, use common sense people.

And skarmlbiss IS NOT easy to take care of, especially in ADV. When not prepared or if you're underprepared, you get owned, plain and simple.

EDIT: Well, I'll probably go Ice Beam to take out the trio >:) I'll run some calcs and see what it does to claydol EDIT 2: It's barely a 2HKO, yeah!

[Dark_Azelf]

Of course a real battle. No, a fake one! Um, use common sense people.

And skarmlbiss IS NOT easy to take care of, especially in ADV. When not prepared or if you're underprepared, you get owned, plain and simple.

EDIT: Well, I'll probably go Ice Beam to take out the trio >:) I'll run some calcs and see what it does to claydol EDIT 2: It's barely a 2HKO, yeah!

Oh yeah isnt that damn Calm Mind Cune prone to switch in ?

Run some tests on that aswell and see what T-Bolt does to that. My Tyraniboah barely 2hko'd one the other day (On Wifi lol =/) and only because of Sandstream..

[evilcheese]

maybe explosion OHKOs any bliss

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Oh yeah isnt that damn Calm Mind Cune prone to switch in ?

Run some tests on that aswell and see what T-Bolt does to that. My Tyraniboah barely 2hko'd one the other day (On Wifi lol =/) and only because of Sandstream..

Well, Psych up would be very good for that. I could set up a sub, watch it blindly switch in, and stall for a bit while it CMed and then steel the boosts and HAMMER it with some Tbolt action.

I guess each move would help with certain pokemon. Ice Beam 2HKOs claydol to destroy skarmblissdol totally.

Rest gives me more staying power and all that jazz.

Psych Up beats other CMers like celebi and suicune, and also curselax.

Wow, I'm totally undecided! I migth make a poll to decide this one...

[Mike™]

Well, Psych up would be very good for that. I could set up a sub, watch it blindly switch in, and stall for a bit while it CMed and then steel the boosts and HAMMER it with some Tbolt action.

I guess each move would help with certain pokemon. Ice Beam 2HKOs claydol to destroy skarmblissdol totally.

Rest gives me more staying power and all that jazz.

Psych Up beats other CMers like celebi and suicune, and also curselax.

Wow, I'm totally undecided! I migth make a poll to decide this one...

You keep us informed on that. Anyways, I have no comments. Just to say that this is a nice creation. Anyways, since I like stealing boosts like that, and It's oh so fun, I'd vote Psych Up. Defentely.

[Dark_Azelf]

Well, Psych up would be very good for that. I could set up a sub, watch it blindly switch in, and stall for a bit while it CMed and then steel the boosts and HAMMER it with some Tbolt action.

I guess each move would help with certain pokemon. Ice Beam 2HKOs claydol to destroy skarmblissdol totally.

Rest gives me more staying power and all that jazz.

Psych Up beats other CMers like celebi and suicune, and also curselax.

Wow, I'm totally undecided! I migth make a poll to decide this one...

It also gets mimic and safeguard.

Play Calm Mind Cune at its own game with mimic,

safeguard will prevent T-Wave.

But maybe not .....

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Itachi, "Oh so fun" is my line and you know it. I let you off the hook the first time, DO NOT STEAL MY LINES.

Mimic, oo...I'll check Netbattle's Regice Movepool and see if there are any other options. Finally, one of my novelty sets that actually has a shot at working...

[Mike™]

Itachi, "Oh so fun" is my line and you know it. I let you off the hook the first time, DO NOT STEAL MY LINES.

Mimic, oo...I'll check Netbattle's Regice Movepool and see if there are any other options. Finally, one of my novelty sets that actually has a shot at working...

Sorry, didn't remember it was yours....

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Because I only put it in every other post :/

Now then, I'll get to posting that poll. I myself am torn between rest and psych up, but I'll post all options after I consult to Netbattle.

[ultranerd57]

That's awesome.
Rock polish might be of some use.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

That's awesome.
Rock polish might be of some use.

I don't really think speed helps it much to be honest. With this, bliss can't Twave me really, so I see no use for it.

Besides, this is more meant for 3rd gen, but looking at it, it would work for shoddy. But only shoddy since the IVs have to be almost perfect :0

[Mike™]

That's awesome.
Rock polish might be of some use.

1.) Rock Polish is 4th gen. Omg. Why the heck do you people like 4th Gen so much. It's 3rd Gen. 2.) Regice can't learn Rock Polish. :/

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

1.) Rock Polish is 4th gen. Omg. Why the heck do you people like 4th Gen so much. It's 3rd Gen. 2.) Regice can't learn Rock Polish. :/

I would go grammar police on you but I'm not in the mood. IT CAN WORK FOR 4TH GEN TOO.

Since I never mentioned specifically it was for 4th gen, you can't really blame him :/

So, overall thoughts on Regi-Boah / McIceReg? lol

And it looks like it'll be psych up...

[ultranerd57]

1.) Rock Polish is 4th gen. Omg. Why the heck do you people like 4th Gen so much. It's 3rd Gen. 2.) Regice can't learn Rock Polish. :/

Yes it can Rock polish is a TM. =p

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Yes it can Rock polish is a TM. =p

Wow. Itachi, next time you go bazzurk, please be sure you're actually posting something accurate.

And anyways, let's get back on topic please. Any other suggestions / thoughts / changes you'd suggest?

[Darkblade]

I would say Ice Beam, for that extra Boost of power, but psych up could work as well, if the opponent uses any power up moves, that is

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

I would say Ice Beam, for that extra Boost of power, but psych up could work as well, if the opponent uses any power up moves, that is

Well, yeah, psych up IS for those annoying pests that power up like Calmcune and Curselax. Oh, and celebi. *Shakes fists at Celebi*

though beam is more for bulky ground types like swampert that otherwsie kind of wall me :0

[ultranerd57]

I would say Ice Beam, for that extra Boost of power, but psych up could work as well, if the opponent uses any power up moves, that is

Yeah if there weren't any pokemon in the opponents team using a stat boosting move it'd be useless.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Yeah if there weren't any pokemon in the opponents team using a stat boosting move it'd be useless.

But blissey or celebi are on at least 50% of all Netbattle teams, so it'll surely come in handy. and that's not even mentioning snorlax, CalmCune, and even Raikou.

[ultranerd57]

But blissey or celebi are on at least 50% of all Netbattle teams, so it'll surely come in handy. and that's not even mentioning snorlax, CalmCune, and even Raikou.

Point taken I don't play ADV ( theres a thought) so I wouldn't know. Have fun pissing everyone off by usingbthere stuff against them. =]

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

However, Psych up is actually fairly common on standard Regice anyways, sao it wouldn't really surprise them by any means.

EDIT: Couls those who vote please explain their vote, as that would help much more. Thanks.

[Eos Aduro]

Also, with Psych Up, you dont get yourself PWNED by Jirachi with Fire Punch. I would go Fire Punch

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Regice can't learn fire punch :/ I'm not really inclined to take on Jirachi with this thing though. However, many carry Tbolt which means Regice could in fact do quite a bit to it.

[Eos Aduro]

Ah, but Jirachi can learn Fire Punch. Which after a Calm Mind, you probably cant take down with T-Bolt or Ice Beam, so it KOs your SUb and has you on the ropes, actually yeah no going against Jirachi overall.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Unless it doesn't have fire punch, and it often doesn't ;) But yeah, the consensus seems to be psych up it seems...

[Eos Aduro]

It have some weaks, I know who I would send in to beat it on ym team almost immediately, but it could work.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

So could this actually work? Because that's where I'm getting at...because that's kind of the key to using it ;)

[Eos Aduro]

Well if ANY fighting type come in, you have to get out ASAP, also speedy fires like Charizard, also Infernape kills you very dead, but if you have other ways to counter then you're good.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Well if ANY fighting type come in, you have to get out ASAP, also speedy fires like Charizard, also Infernape kills you very dead, but if you have other ways to counter then you're good.

Chari can't really hurt Regice and under a sub it won't last. 450 SDef will keep me around to take a few flamethrower attaks ;)

Fighting types kill all Regice sets though, so there's not much I can do about it. Again, all pokemon have counters, fighters kill Regice.

So I'm pretty well-aware it can be countered, but can it work? And how can I improve this one?

On a sidenote, remember this is more for 3rd gen than 4th, so infernape shouldn't be a prolem ;)

[Samson]

if you want this to work, you really have to give it a +Atk nature and completely ignore giving it DEF evs for that matter. sure, you'll want it to survive physical attacks but your main interest for this thing is giving it enough hp evs, max atk evs, and some sp atk evs.

regardless, its not very reliable for a set against blissey because the best it can do is 2HKO blissey, not having enough HP to make sub take damage for more than one turn. with expert belt, it does a maximum of 72% to blissey with a focus punch and that's before leftovers recovery. if you really want this to work, pair it up with a ghost who can immediately come in and finish blissey off with brick break.

so as you can see, it's really not worth it. you're seriously better off just giving it explosion.

[Eos Aduro]

Also, something else you taught me, sometimes Blissey has a Counter under its belt, if you dont have a sub up when it uses Counter, you;re gone.

[flamehaze94]

The problem I see with this set is that, even though it can kill SkarmBliss, most teams carry a backup wall to further set back Regice's rampage. i.e. Swampert to stop Electivire or a 224SpAtk Modest Cresselia to stop Infernape. It simply lacks the power to do much outside of SkarmBliss killing, any other decent wall can shake off its hits and it has its walling usage stripped away from the lack of defense. :/

Ehh.....my two cents >_>