Rate my Icy Team

[Saito]

Weavile@ Focus sash
Jolly( 252 spd 252 atk 6 hp)
Sword Dance
Ice Punch
Night Slash
Brick Break/AA

With Focus Sash i Can pump my WEavile with SD for once

Infernape@Expert Belt
Naive ( 190 sp.atk 68 atk 252 spd)
FlameThrower
CLose Combat
Grass Knot
Shadow Claw

Mixape.CC for Blissey ,Shadow Claw for Ghost/Psychic type coverage,Main Skarmbliss counter

Umbreon@ Lefties
Bold( 252 sp.def 252 hp 6 def)
Mean Look
Baton Pass
Toxic
Wish

Standard Umbreon Set,After get up with Hail and a sp.sweeper,switch this out and mean look.Stalling Time ^^, baton pass help me pass wish and switch to sweeper or better staller

Abomasnow@Lefties
Calm(40 def 252 hp 190 sp.def)
Substitute
Blizzard
Leech Seed
Protect

Stalling

Walrein@Lefties
Impish(190 hp 252 def 68 atk)
Substitute
Earthquake
Protect
Toxic

another good staller

Tentacruel@Lefties
Calm (190 hp 252 sp.def 68 sp.atk)
Blizzard
Rapid Spin
Toxic Spike
Protect

Rapid SPinner without SR weakness and abosorb Toxic SPike



Please rate this and give as much comment as possible...THis team still new and require alot improvement

[Dragonzilla]

hmmm u seem to have a big vire weakness.... and also toxic spikes=fail because its basicly an invite for hera to come w/ that guts boost and rain on your parade... so i would say replace tentecruel w/ a better spiner..i would go claydol since it can take down vire for u...

[Saito]

Thx for the comment.....nice....can u give the standard set and ev sprd for claydol?

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Thx for the comment.....nice....can u give the standard set and ev sprd for claydol?

Run max HP and pretty much even out Defenses, though you can adjust it to your liking, and also how you migth want to counter. but ouch, Vire does ruin your party. You don't really have any reliable walls, I'd throw in donphan rather than claydol, as it too counters Vire and is a great spinner and physical wall.

[Saito]

Hmm...another nice comment......i think i go with donphan.....

[flamehaze94]

Brick Break is a necessity for Weavile. Aerial Ace is quite useless.

Abomasnow needs more of a mix set, you don't need Protect and Sub. Get rid of one and put in Wood Hammer or Focus Punch.

HP [Electric]>>>Blizzard on Tentacruel to kill Gyarados, who is a HUGE threat to your team.



I love how Taunt Gyarados has a field day with this team.

[ultranerd57]

Shadow claw < thunderpunch on infernape for Gyara.

[Saito]

My abomasnow is for subseeder

HP Electriv is good, but abomasnow blizzard can slowly KO him , or even Grass Knot

Stone Edge for Nape , can?

[flamehaze94]

Infernape can't switch into Gyarados to save his life.

Abomasnow gets outran and Taunted, to be rendered useless, while Gyara DDs up.

Nothing can stand up to Gyara. I suggest getting a counter to it.

[Saito]

ABOMASNOW still can use BLizzard even after taunt..but your rite, istill need counter Gyara......sigh...

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

ABOMASNOW still can use BLizzard even after taunt..

Dude, Gyarados has 100 base SDef and often runs 212 HP EVs. Gyara is going to run over that thing :/

[ultranerd57]

HP electric on Abomasnow over protect maybe?

[Saito]

HMm..another nice comment....great....focus sash is disabled after hail + x4 electric weakness.......

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Um, Gyara can srtill run you over, especially with help from some flinch hax :0 But whatever suits you I suppose...and gyarados never carries sash. Wacan berry a lot, which will also foil your attempts. So no, Abamnasnow can't really counter Gyara :/

[Saito]

There is Sash Gyara with DD....*sigh*.......how bout jolteon or vire

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

There is Sash Gyara with DD....*sigh*.......how bout jolteon or vire

I smell earthquake on the switch. NO.

A counter has to be able to switch into any attack the pokemon it's countering has, and then be able to (if both pokemon stayed in) have a very good chance at winning, like gliscor countering heracross.

[flamehaze94]

Cresselia goes in nicely, switching into Gyarados with no problems and hitting back with Charge Beam, it also has the bonus of walling Electivire who is another problem ;)

[Saito]

Cress.....she just let Gyara Set up

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Cress.....she just let Gyara Set up

Notice charge beam will 2HKO Gyara :/

I don't define that as "just letting Gyara set up," I'd defibne that as Gyara switching out after taking a lot of damage.

[Saito]

Abomasnow HP electric can deal 80% of Max Gyara HP.....Then a Blizzard COuld KO gyara....how this?

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Abomasnow HP electric can deal 80% of Max Gyara HP.....Then a Blizzard COuld KO gyara....how this?

It's a shame that Gyara DDs while you switch in, Waterfalls you while taking HP electric, and then finishing you off with waterfall. So no, it DOES NOT counter gyarados :/

[Saito]

:/ .......Water fall = x0.25 on abomasnow and....it prefer ice fang instead of waterfall.Dun forgot abomasnow is grass/ice type pokemon

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

:/ .......Water fall = x0.25 on abomasnow and....it prefer ice fang instead of waterfall.Dun forgot abomasnow is grass/ice type pokemon

Oh, forgot. but seriously, stone edge :/ And waterfall can provide flinch hax as well. And BTW, it only takes off half the damage, water is normally effective on ice ;/

But again, it CANNOT COUNTER GYARADOS. Too situational :/

[flamehaze94]

Nearly all the Gyarados's I see carry Waterfall / Earthquake and Stone Edge, and Stone Edge 0HKOs it :/, though there maybe one or two who carry Ice Fang

[Saito]

hmm..just thought about this, How bout Swampert?

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

hmm..just thought about this, How bout Swampert?

The rock slide variant can usually hurt gyara, but waterfall can cause trouble. But for the most part it can decently do the job.

[flamehaze94]

Only Swamperts that carry HP [Electric] or Stone Edge can do a decent job, though Taunt really hurts Swampert's supportive side and DD'd Waterfalls can be trouble.

But, overall, yes Swampert works

[Saito]

hmm,i guess swampert replace WEavile will be good....i need it for atker,,

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Then you wouldn't have a physical sweeper. Take out either umbreon, walrein, or tenta for swampert/gyara counter.

[Saito]

Aerodacty;e replace weavile then...

Jolly Aero can OHKO Gyara with stone edge

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Aerodacty;e replace weavile then...

Jolly Aero can OHKO Gyara with stone edge

Um, it can't switch into gyarados since waterfall is the baneof its existance :/ Then it would just switch out if you sashed it without you doing any damage...

[Saito]

Sigh......i just forgot it will be hail....sash is useless <.<

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

So maybe getting one of its most solid counters would be of benefit. One that will 100% of the time beat it. Like Cressi.

[Saito]

The problem is, my sassy cressi has ev'd on sp.def and it has suck sp.atk IV.........-.-

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

The problem is, my sassy cressi has ev'd on sp.def and it has suck sp.atk IV.........-.-

The nuse a different counter :/ Charge beam bronzong ;)

[Saito]

-.-....well, that = prediction........bronzong arent really famous thou

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

-.-....well, that = prediction........bronzong arent really famous thou

How does using charge beam have to do with prediction? And lol, bronzong are used A LOT :/

[Saito]

opssi.......lol......................well...i rarely see bronzong anyway...T_T>....<....counter game

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

opssi.......lol......................well...i rarely see bronzong anyway...T_T>....<....counter game

Doesn't matter how often you see it, bronzong is VERY OU :/

And counter game? Wha? You have to be able to counter the most prominant threats, if that's what you mean...

[flamehaze94]

Talking about Gyara counters and no mention of a little cybernetic ducky is ;___;

Porygon2 is one of the best counters to Gyarados, Tracing back Intimidate and
2HKOing with Thunderbolt / Discharge. It also counters Salamence the same way, and comes to 0HKO with Ice Beam ;)

[PokeCosmo]

Weavile@ Focus sash
Jolly( 252 spd 252 atk 6 hp)
Sword Dance
Ice Punch
Night Slash
Brick Break/AA

With Focus Sash i Can pump my WEavile with SD for once

Infernape@Expert Belt
Naive ( 190 sp.atk 68 atk 252 spd)
FlameThrower
CLose Combat
Grass Knot
Shadow Claw

Mixape.CC for Blissey ,Shadow Claw for Ghost/Psychic type coverage,Main Skarmbliss counter

Umbreon@ Lefties
Bold( 252 sp.def 252 hp 6 def)
Mean Look
Baton Pass
Toxic
Wish

Standard Umbreon Set,After get up with Hail and a sp.sweeper,switch this out and mean look.Stalling Time ^^, baton pass help me pass wish and switch to sweeper or better staller

Abomasnow@Lefties
Calm(40 def 252 hp 190 sp.def)
Substitute
Blizzard
Leech Seed
Protect

Stalling

Walrein@Lefties
Impish(190 hp 252 def 68 atk)
Substitute
Earthquake
Protect
Toxic

another good staller

Tentacruel@Lefties
Calm (190 hp 252 sp.def 68 sp.atk)
Blizzard
Rapid Spin
Toxic Spike
Protect

Rapid SPinner without SR weakness and abosorb Toxic SPike



Please rate this and give as much comment as possible...THis team still new and require alot improvement

Most novelty teams don't need rapid spinners, there's really no point.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Most novelty teams don't need rapid spinners, there's really no point.

Not really. Especially on a team with such a spikes and SR weak.

[PokeCosmo]

There's other more offensive alternatives than rapid spin.

[Saito]

Skarm 1 time SR, will deal alot dmg to my team, dude

[PokeCosmo]

Ok, metagross ohkos every pokemon on your team.

[Saito]

Flamethrower finish him off.or aero earthquake

[Archer]

Metagross - If its an Agiligross, you can't use infernape and for a counter and a max speed gross would outrun Aero.
Gyarados - Shame there are no electric priority moves... Aero could work if you can bait out an EQ and switch on it.

[Saito]

oo......-.-..i cant think of anything at the moment to improve my team

[Kuro]

Since Weavile is a beasty physical sweeper, I'd go for both Aerial Ace [i[and[/i] Brick Break over Swords Dance. Trust me - otherwise Yanmega will KILL Weavile.

[Saito]

Focus Sash Yanmega can survive AA 1 hit, and then bug buzz 2 time(after Speed Boost ,yanmega outrun weavile