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flamehaze94
December 2nd, 2007, 04:39 AM
Yep, I'm back in black after being gone for a while =)



~Heracross~

http://www.pokebeach.com/images/gallery/sugimori/214.png

Hercules @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
Adamant nature(+Atk –SpAtk)
Evs: 100HP / 252Atk / 156Spd
- Close Combat
- Megahorn
- Stone Edge
- Sleep Talk

Hera luvs to take sleep. Lol, Tyranitar counter.


~Starmie~

http://www.pokebeach.com/images/gallery/sugimori/121.png

iSpin @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
Timid nature(+Spd –Atk)
Evs: 176HP / 120SpAtk / 216Spd
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Surf
- Thunderbolt

Obligitory.


~Blissey~

http://www.pokebeach.com/images/gallery/sugimori/440.png

Pink Blob @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
Bold nature(+Def -Atk)
EVs: 204HP / 252Def / 52SpDef
- Flamethrower
- Seismic Toss
- Sing
- Softboiled

Old-fashion SingBliss. Lawl SpecsGar. Flamethrower hits Metagross and Breloom switch ins pretty hard. Wish support is not really needed, so I'll stray from using a Wish set.

~Gliscor~

http://www.pokebeach.com/images/gallery/sugimori/472.png

Vampire Hunter @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Veil
Impish nature(+Def –SpAtk)
Evs: 252HP / 184Def / 72Spd
- Ice Fang
- Earthquake
- Taunt
- Roost

Set-up fodder? I don’t think so. Outspeeds all forms of Tyranitar.

~Celebi~

http://whatscookingamerica.net/Sandwich/Lettuce.jpg

Celery @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Bold nature(+Def -Atk)
EVs: 252HP / 216Def / 8SpDef / 32Spd
- Calm Mind
- Leech Seed
- Baton Pass
- Grass Knot

Another “i don’t wanna die” sets. CM Passes are <333. Switching in and outstalling Suicune and Cresselia is the best I could ask for.

~Heatran~

http://www.newmexicocreates.org/items/sm/1390_1.jpg

Frog Legs @ Choice Specs
Trait: Flash Fire
Modest nature(+SpAtk –Atk)
Evs: 40HP / 252SpAtk / 216Spd
- Overheat
- HP [Electric]
- Earth Power
- Dragon Pulse

Heatran is the bane of all my teams now.

Mmhmm.....

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
December 2nd, 2007, 04:44 AM
Yep, I'm back in black after being gone for a while =)



~Heracross~

http://www.pokebeach.com/images/gallery/sugimori/214.png

Hercules @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
Adamant nature(+Atk –SpAtk)
Evs: 100HP / 252Atk / 156Spd
- Close Combat
- Megahorn
- Stone Edge
- Sleep Talk

Hera luvs to take sleep. Lol, Tyranitar counter.

Finally somebody who likes 2HKOing skarm with CBcross' close combat!

~Starmie~

http://www.pokebeach.com/images/gallery/sugimori/121.png

iSpin @ Leftovers / Choice Specs
Trait: Natural Cure
Timid nature(+Spd –Atk)
Evs: 252HP / 120SpAtk / 136Spd
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin / Psychic / Grass Knot
- Surf
- Thunderbolt

Obligitory.

Recover is kind of a waste IMO, but whatever you like I suppose.

~Blissey~

http://www.pokebeach.com/images/gallery/sugimori/440.png

Pink Blob @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
Bold nature(+Def -Atk)
EVs: 204HP / 252Def / 52SpDef
- Flamethrower
- Seismic Toss
- Sing
- Softboiled

Old-fashion SingBliss. Lawl SpecsGar. Flamethrower hits Metagross and Breloom switch ins pretty hard. Wish support is not really needed, so I'll stray from using a Wish set.

Erm, I guess it'll work...watch out for dugtrio. You'd have to sing that thing on the switch and have it hit, which is unlikely :(

~Gliscor~

http://www.pokebeach.com/images/gallery/sugimori/472.png

Vampire Hunter @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Veil
Impish nature(+Def –SpAtk)
Evs: 252HP / 184Def / 72Spd
- Ice Fang
- Earthquake
- Taunt
- Roost

Set-up fodder? I don’t think so. Outspeeds all forms of Tyranitar.

Now THAT looks like fun.

~Celebi~

http://whatscookingamerica.net/Sandwich/Lettuce.jpg

Celery @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Bold nature(+Def -Atk)
EVs: 252HP / 216Def / 8SpDef / 32Spd
- Calm Mind
- Leech Seed
- Baton Pass
- Grass Knot

Another “i don’t wanna die” sets. CM Passes are <333. Switching in and outstalling Suicune and Cresselia is oh so fun!

That is SO my line >:) I guess it's okay, but I'd put heal bell on this thing or Bliss.

~Heatran~

http://www.newmexicocreates.org/items/sm/1390_1.jpg

Frog Legs @ Choice Specs
Trait: Flash Fire
Modest nature(+SpAtk –Atk)
Evs: 40HP / 252SpAtk / 216Spd
- Overheat
- HP [Electric]
- Earth Power
- Dragon Pulse

Heatran is the bane of all my teams now.

Okay.

Mmhmm.....

Use either celebi or bliss to bell for you. Looks fairly solid, I'd have to look over it a bit more.

ultranerd57
December 2nd, 2007, 04:44 AM
Give Celery Calm over Bold otherwise lookin' good.

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
December 2nd, 2007, 04:44 AM
Give Celery Calm over Bold otherwise lookin' good.

No, Celebi needs physical defense. Besdies, CM helps SDef ;)

ultranerd57
December 2nd, 2007, 04:46 AM
No, Celebi needs physical defense. Besdies, CM helps SDef ;)

Oh forgot it said Calm Mind nevermind its good.

flamehaze94
December 2nd, 2007, 04:55 AM
@Anti-Pop: Lol, I knew you'd reconize that line xD. I changed it now though. :p

Yeah, I'm surprised CB Heracross isn't popular, 2HKOing Skarmory is a HUGE plus. =)

Yeah, I was thinking of putting something over Recover,on Starmie I'll think about it.

I think Metagross and Breloom are more prodominate switch ins than Duggy, hence Flamethrower. Only CB Dugtrios with Adamant nature will 2HKO it, or else I'll just outstall it and ST it into oblivion and if it's Jolly, it lacks the speed to catch up to Starmie unless it's carrying Sucker Punch >_>. Duggy will also have trouble with Gliscor so I got it covered.

The problem with Bell is that I like Heracross being statusized ;__;

@ultranerd57: What Anti-Pop said. =)

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
December 2nd, 2007, 04:58 AM
@Anti-Pop: Lol, I knew you'd reconize that line xD. I changed it now though. :p

Yeah, I'm surprised CB Heracross isn't popular, 2HKOing Skarmory is a HUGE plus. =)

Yeah, I was thinking of putting something over Recover,on Starmie I'll think about it.

I think Metagross and Breloom are more prodominate switch ins than Duggy, hence Flamethrower. Only CB Dugtrios with Adamant nature will 2HKO it, or else I'll just outstall it and ST it into oblivion and if it's Jolly, it lacks the speed to catch up to Starmie unless it's carrying Sucker Punch >_>. Duggy will also have trouble with Gliscor so I got it covered.

The problem with Bell is that I like Heracross being statusized ;__;

@ultranerd57: What Anti-Pop said. =)

Keep in mind 90% of dugtrios that are used ARE CBed and adamant. The GOOD ones anyways :P Arena trap FTL

You can't rely on heracross being able to take all that status. I'd run the heal bell set for celebi. But if you really want ot CM pass, put it over sing on bliss. Lacks a spinner BTW, unless you mod starmie. So yeah.

And people are NEVER prepared for CBcross. It is oh so fun to watch the opponent grin with glee switching skarm in only to realize close combat is a 2HKO. Classic.

Saito
December 2nd, 2007, 05:08 AM
Yanmega will KO heracross easily......especially with Cband

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
December 2nd, 2007, 05:11 AM
Yanmega will KO heracross easily......especially with Cband

The term "switching out" comes to mind. And Yanmega wouldn't DARE switch into heracross, and probably wouldn't stay in if both started the battle since scarfcross is so standard ;) though the protect variant would have its way, maost would probably switch to a sleep absorber anyways :/

Saito
December 2nd, 2007, 05:16 AM
i prefer air slash 1st instead of Protect since i has focus sash...

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
December 2nd, 2007, 05:19 AM
i prefer air slash 1st instead of Protect since i has focus sash...

Um, SR :/ and again, you'd have to be VERY stupid to switch yanmega into heracross unless you knew ONE HUNDRED PERCENT that you wouldn't be destroyed. And again, all pokemon have counters :/

flamehaze94
December 2nd, 2007, 05:19 AM
Well, I would never dare to place Heracross in with Yanmega. It's suicide >_<

@Anti-Pop: Well, I have three Natural Cure Pokemon, Heracross absorbs status, Heatran loves Will-O-Wisps, and Gliscor goes in on a Thunder Wave. Do you think a Beller is necessary? If it is then I'll give it to Blissey. But I don't think it's really needed on my team at all.

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
December 2nd, 2007, 05:24 AM
Well, I would never dare to place Heracross in with Yanmega. It's suicide >_<

They also would never do the same thing ;)

@Anti-Pop: Well, I have three Natural Cure Pokemon, Heracross absorbs status, Heatran loves Will-O-Wisps, and Gliscor goes in on a Thunder Wave. Do you think a Beller is necessary? If it is then I'll give it to Blissey. But I don't think it's really needed on my team at all.

Meh, I really need to check those abilities more often. I suppose you're correct, just be wary or status to pokemon that can't take it.

Saito
December 2nd, 2007, 05:24 AM
OK, i lose the argument...........anyway, i'm bad in rating hehe

flamehaze94
December 2nd, 2007, 06:13 AM
Yeah, but I can't go wrong with prediction though. That is my major ;D

Changed Starmie's EVs also. ;D

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
December 2nd, 2007, 06:14 AM
Well now recover seems a little more...useful...on it with the HP to use it ;)

Samson
December 2nd, 2007, 06:21 AM
i like giving starmies hp but when does it ever have the time to recover?

flamehaze94
December 2nd, 2007, 06:36 AM
i like giving starmies hp but when does it ever have the time to recover?

Well, my Starmie is designed to counter Ape and revenge-kill non-Scarf Outrage Garchomp, so when I scare them off, I can Recover to heal residue damage as they switch into a counter :/

Not a very strong theory, but I suppose it can work.

Eos Aduro
December 2nd, 2007, 09:23 PM
Well, my new fav Poke, CounterBliss LOLs at Metagross and Dugtrio, after one hit BAM insta-KO. Brellom is a tad problematic, but because of Spore, a Beller is always nice.

flamehaze94
December 2nd, 2007, 09:46 PM
I was thinking about a CounterBliss actually before I posted this team up, but without Seismic Toss, I lose to CM Raikou, who sets up a Sub and CMs up while I switch and it's very problematic if that thing gets loose, nothing else can take it, except maybe Celebi, but if it's running HP [Ice]>[Grass], I still lose. So Seismic Toss>Counter was my end conclusion. And I need Flamethrower to hit ghosts like Gengar. I apreciate the help though^^.

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
December 2nd, 2007, 09:47 PM
I was thinking about a CounterBliss actually before I posted this team up, but without Seismic Toss, I lose to CM Raikou, who sets up a Sub and CMs up while I switch and it's very problematic if that thing gets loose, nothing else can take it, except maybe Celebi, but if it's running HP [Ice]>[Grass], I still lose. So Seismic Toss>Counter was my end conclusion. I apreciate the hep though^^.

The idea would be to run both ;) Over Twave usually, you can toss AND hit most physical sweepers hard. It is oh so fun to watch dugtrio get loled at...

flamehaze94
December 2nd, 2007, 09:52 PM
Ah....over Sing then. I think I'll consider Counter. Thank you.

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
December 2nd, 2007, 09:55 PM
Ah....over Sing then. I think I'll consider Counter. Thank you.

Though you should not keep it in against metagross, however tempting. CBgross will OHKO you with explosion and if it's against agiligross, you'll counter on the agility turn and then Meta will retreat.