RMT or you will di- er, I mean get a free Cake.

[ShadowAzelf]

Someone please close this >.>...

[Mike™]

Curselax would be nice.

Snorlax @ Leftovers ** Fat Monster
Trait: Thick Fat
EV's: 76 HP / 44 Atk / 136 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Earthquake / Crunch / Pursuit / Fire Blast / Fire Punch
- Curse
- Rest / Slefdestruct. As for SDef,

350 special defense is needed for Snorlax to take one the high-powered special threats of DP; with this spread, a Choice Specs Salamence Draco Meteor does about 55%; a Nasty Plot Porygon-Z Tri Attack with Adaptibility could still do 73%. As a result, Body Slam is preferred over the other Normal choices—a timely paralysis may be Snorlax's only chance. Selfdestruct is useful, and perhaps preferred__


More Tanking Set:

Snorlax @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EV's: 220 HP / 36 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Earthquake / Crunch / Pursuit / Fire Blast
- Rest
- Sleep Talk. Resttalking variant. Tanking as well. Comments: This set promises to give you the most chance of beating out most special threats; a Nasty Plot Azelf Psychic doesn't even 2HKO this.

[Dragonzilla]

hmm on primape i would prefer overheat of thunder...i don't know why...

[Mike™]

The only problems that I see with it is that Primeape has to run this: Close Combat / Ice Punch or Stone Edge / Punishment or Thunderpunch / U-Turn. With these EV's: 80 HP / 252 Atk / 176 Spe But you got most of the Moves on the Set correct. ;)

[Samson]

give kecleon brick break. it's the most BRILLIANT thing to get hit with Blissey's seismic toss and destroying it with STAB Brick Break. take it from me. chople berry is quite silly on it when it'll come in to take a special hit anyway. also, the defense evs are quite pointless. sure it can manage with 70 base def, but 120 base sp def is so much more appealing and harder to ignore. so yeah, i'd drop counter and just give it twave, and maybe replace chople berry with lum berry. that set is just too around the place. in between delivering physical attacks, reflecting special moves, and abusing chople berry for counter, it doesn't have enough HP to stay alive.

i actually run a CB set with kecleon. it's done well for the 2 times i used it, but i'm just a little unhappy that fake out/suckerpunch is illegal with the elemental punches. oh well. it does have a great advantage with CB priority moves.

[Iceman3k]

You can run Elemental Punches w/Fake Out, and then obtain Sucker Punch, but that would require work of Pokemon Emerald =(

[ShadowAzelf]

give kecleon brick break. it's the most BRILLIANT thing to get hit with Blissey's seismic toss and destroying it with STAB Brick Break. take it from me. chople berry is quite silly on it when it'll come in to take a special hit anyway. also, the defense evs are quite pointless. sure it can manage with 70 base def, but 120 base sp def is so much more appealing and harder to ignore. so yeah, i'd drop counter and just give it twave, and maybe replace chople berry with lum berry. that set is just too around the place. in between delivering physical attacks, reflecting special moves, and abusing chople berry for counter, it doesn't have enough HP to stay alive.

When Kecleon switches in on Blissey, Blissey will most likely try to cripple it with T-Wave, same with Noir and Tomb. The Chople Berry is so it can be able to take a hit from a fighting move, convert to a fighting type and just Counter. Togekiss's Wish makes up for the loss of HP, the only things that could cause Kecleon problems are pokes with moves that correspond with the other move's weakness, EX:Stone Edge plus EQ, the average moves in a physical sweeper's set. Seeing as Togekiss has Relfect, I don't see the problem really >.>...

i actually run a CB set with kecleon. it's done well for the 2 times i used it, but i'm just a little unhappy that fake out/suckerpunch is illegal with the elemental punches. oh well. it does have a great advantage with CB priority moves.

If I could pass up Kecleon's Magic Coat, the CBLeon set would be second on my list, but, the fact that it makes annoyers/stallers angry is too much to pass up. Plus, I might as well add that kecleon can change types which works on Choice pokes I switch in on (excluding Hera of course).


Read the bolded .

[flamehaze94]

Keleon can also Nasty Plot

[ShadowAzelf]

Keleon can also Nasty Plot

But it can't NP that well -_-... Plus, it really doesn't need it since half of my team is already SPAttackers.

EDIT: Am I going crazy or did you just post a team in my topic?

EDIT#2: I'm kinda lazy, so, Kecleon gets Sucker Punch and BB over T-Punch and I-Punch.

[flamehaze94]

But it can't NP that well -_-... Plus, it really doesn't need it since half of my team is already SPAttackers.

EDIT: Am I going crazy or did you just post a team?

I think it learns Encore, if I'm not mistaken.

Lol, yeah. I was supposed to press the "post topic" buton, but I slipped and pressed the "post in this thread" button and I tried to cover it up. -.-

[ShadowAzelf]

I think it learns Encore, if I'm not mistaken.

Lol, yeah. I was supposed to press the "post topic" buton, but I slipped and pressed the "post in this thread" button and I tried to cover it up. -.-

Eh, I haven't used Encore in ages, I might try it.

Okay, I've updated my team.