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Koroc
December 5th, 2007, 09:57 PM
This is my first Competitive Team I made cause when on PBR I was tired of losing to everyone and they just use one pokemon to take out my whole team in one hit.

Typhlosion @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Blaze
EV: 6 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed
Nature: Modest
- Eruption
- HP (Ice)
- Flamethrower
- Grass Knot

Snorlax @ Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
EV: 6 HP / 252 SpDef / 252 Atk
Nature: Careful
- Earthquake
- Substitute
- Curse
- Brick Break

Leafeon @ Leftovers
Ability: Leaf Guard
EV: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Nature: Relaxed
- Sunny Day
- X Scissior
- Leaf blade
- Synthesis

Electivire @ Choice Band
Ability: Motor Drive
EV: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Speed
Nature: Jolly
- Thunder Punch
- Brick Break
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EV: 6 HP / 252 SpDef / 252 Def
Nature: Careful
- Pain split
- Will - o - Wisp
- Ice Punch
- Destiny Bond

Ninjask @ Focus Sash
Ability: Speed Boost
EV: 6 SpDef / 252 Def / 252 Speed
Nature: Jolly
- Baton Pass
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- X Scissor

ultranerd57
December 5th, 2007, 10:05 PM
Ninjask needs focus sash and you might want him as your lead to get an early boost.

And shadow sneak over destiny bond hes not fast enough to pull it off.

Koroc
December 5th, 2007, 10:07 PM
Thanks I will make that adjustment.

ultranerd57
December 5th, 2007, 10:08 PM
Also Choice specs over band on Typhlosion for all his special moves and you might not want two moves of the same type.

Anti
December 5th, 2007, 10:09 PM
This is my first Competitive Team I made cause when on PBR I was tired of losing to everyone and they just use one pokemon to take out my whole team in one hit.

Typhlosion @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Blaze
EV: 6 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed
Nature: Modest
- Eruption
- HP (Ice)
- Flamethrower / Overheat
- Grass Knot

Looks solid...though I'm no typhlosion expert ;)

Snorlax @ Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
EV: 6 HP / 252 SpDef / 252 Atk
Nature: Careful
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Curse
- Crunch / Return

STABed return does just as much as supereffective brick break. And it needs healing. Also, more HP EVs. It hardly needs any Atk EVs.

Leafeon @ Leftovers
Ability: Leaf Guard
EV: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Nature: Relaxed
- Swords Dance / curse
- X Scissior
- Leaf blade
- Wish

Sunny day just for healing is "meh." Wish is more reliable-and more importantly-can be spread to teammates. also, it needs HP EVs ;)

Electivire @ Choice Band
Ability: Motor Drive
EV: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Speed
Nature: Adamant
- Thunder Punch
- Cross chop / Low Kick / Fire Punch
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake

Good. But no brick break, it doesn't help it at all.

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EV: 252 HP / 176 SpDef / 80 Def
Nature: Careful
- Pain split
- Will - o - Wisp
- Ice Punch
- Shadow Sneak

Needs HP.

Ninjask @ Leftovers / *Pinch Berry*
Ability: Speed Boost
EV: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Speed
Nature: adamant
- Baton Pass
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- X Scissor

Doesn't need the extra speed from jolly, so run adamant.

Nothing on your team can take status. I'd throw in a heal beller and also a rapid spinner to make your team more defensively-sound.

EDIT: It has scarf you know X_X also, sash + sub = fail on ninjask...

Koroc
December 5th, 2007, 10:10 PM
I choose Choice Scarf because it raises speed and his Nature brought up his SpAtk.

Anti
December 5th, 2007, 10:11 PM
In case you missed my edit, don't run both sub and sash on ninjask since only one can really work-choose one or the other.

Iceman3k
December 5th, 2007, 10:12 PM
This is my first Competitive Team I made cause when on PBR I was tired of losing to everyone and they just use one pokemon to take out my whole team in one hit.

Typhlosion @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Blaze
EV: 6 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed
Nature: Modest
- Eruption / Overheat
- HP (Ice)
- Focus Blast
- Grass Knot
I guess Modest w/Scarf is okay. But give him Focus Blast at least.

Snorlax @ Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
EV: 172 HP / 40 Atk / 120 Def / 176 SDef
Nature: Careful
- Earthquake / Body Slam
- Rest
- Curse
- Crunch
A Snorlax without HP and Defense is a sad Snorlax.

Leafeon @ Leftovers
Ability: Leaf Guard
EV: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Nature: Impish
- Sunny Day
- X Scissior
- Leaf blade
- Synthesis
Works, I suppose.

Electivire @ Life Orb / Expert Belt
Ability: Motor Drive
EV: 232 Atk / 176 Spd / 100 SAtk
Nature: Lonely / Naughty
- Thunderbolt
- Cross Chop
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
The whole objective of Electivire is to take advantage of its Motor Drive ability.

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EV: 252 HP / 136 Def / 120 SDef
Nature: Careful
- Pain split
- Will - o - Wisp
- Shadow Sneak
- Fire Punch
Always do HP before defenses.

Ninjask @ Focus Sash / Liechi Berry / Petaya Berry
Ability: Speed Boost
EV: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Nature: Jolly
- Baton Pass
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- X Scissor
Ninjask sucks at taking damage.
Gyarados can break your team without breaking a sweat, and Electivire can't defend against it because an enemy Electivire will come in and defend Gyarados in the process.

Also, your team could use something that can run Rock Typed attacks to actually defend against Gyarados. You should probably consider CS Heracross instead of Ninjask.

EDIT: If you decide to keep Ninjask and Sash it, Aerial Ace instead of Substitute.

Sora_8920
December 5th, 2007, 10:20 PM
I like the Specs Set because It's cooler.

Typlosion @ Choice Specs
Trait: Blaze
EV's: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid / Modest
- Overheat
- Focus Blast / Focus Punch
- Fire Blast / Flamthrower / Lava Plume
- HP Ice/Grass/Electric]

Anti
December 5th, 2007, 10:23 PM
I like the Specs Set because It's cooler.

Typlosion @ Choice Specs
Trait: Blaze
EV's: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid / Modest
- Overheat
- Focus Blast / Focus Punch
- Fire Blast / Flamthrower / Lava Plume
- HP Ice/Grass/Electric]

Not to mention worse than the scarf set. notice this team lacks a speedy attacker, I think the specs set would be MUCH better in this case.

Sora_8920
December 5th, 2007, 10:27 PM
Not to mention worse than the scarf set. notice this team lacks a speedy attacker, I think the specs set would be MUCH better in this case.

Notice, there's Ninjask. :/ And that was confusing. You said that it was worse, and then you said the Specs Set would be better. :/

Anti
December 5th, 2007, 10:32 PM
Notice, there's Ninjask. :/ And that was confusing. You said that it was worse, and then you said the Specs Set would be better. :/

Typo. I meant *SCARF* Oopsies.

And ninjask is easily countered. doesn't do much for the team anyways.

Sora_8920
December 5th, 2007, 10:40 PM
Typo. I meant *SCARF* Oopsies.

And ninjask is easily countered. doesn't do much for the team anyways.

Taking the advice, an actual Sweeper would do wonders. Typlosion does fail. Oh. I know. Replace it with Starmie! Give it Choice Specs. It will look something like this:

Starmie @ Choice Specs
Trait: Natural Cure
EV's: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Grass Knot
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Ice Beam.

shedinjask
December 5th, 2007, 10:45 PM
That Ty needs Focus Punch. You see a lead that you know will die to one of your other attacks, you Focus Punch. They go right for Bliss/Tar/Special Wall, it works every time.

flamehaze94
December 5th, 2007, 10:45 PM
Starmie just kicks your team in the balls. All forms of Tyranitar eat this team for breakfast. Heracross weak.

Blissey>Snorlax to solve that Starmie problem.

Ninjask does nothing for your team. Replace it with Hippodon / Gliscor to counter Heracross and non-Ice Beam Tyranitar.

Sora_8920
December 5th, 2007, 10:46 PM
That Ty needs Focus Punch. You see a lead that you know will die to one of your other attacks, you Focus Punch. They go right for Bliss/Tar/Special Wall, it works every time.

Also, believe it or not, Focus Punch is a counter for Skarm. But I never knew why. x.x Unless that was just in 3rd Gen.

Koroc
December 5th, 2007, 11:46 PM
Okay I will get rid of Ninjask and replace it with a Gliscor and replace snorlax with a Blissey

Sora_8920
December 5th, 2007, 11:49 PM
Okay I will get rid of Ninjask and replace it with a Gliscor and replace snorlax with a Blissey

Miltank is better the both of them. IMO. And can learn what both of them can learn: Curse and a Recoery Move, a.k.a Milk Drink. And your Team needs a Physical Wall, so your idea of replacing a Ninjask with a Gliscor is good.

Koroc
December 6th, 2007, 03:47 AM
Miltank look pretty good they have better speed then both Snorlax and Blissey and they also have good defense but its Special Defense fails in comparison to theirs.

Anti
December 6th, 2007, 03:50 AM
Taking the advice, an actual Sweeper would do wonders. Typlosion does fail. Oh. I know. Replace it with Starmie! Give it Choice Specs. It will look something like this:

Starmie @ Choice Specs
Trait: Natural Cure
EV's: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Grass Knot
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Ice Beam.

Typhlosion...fails? Nonononononononononononononononono (because I haven't used my ever-famous line in quite some time :P)

You realize what a choice scarfed, STAB 150 BP eruption is going to do to opponents? It's going to obliterate them.

eDIT: Who said miltank can wall special attacks? 80 base isn't that good-heracross has better :0 though thick fat is nice, other special shots will just drown miltank in its own milk ;)

Koroc
December 6th, 2007, 03:51 AM
Mantine looks like a good Sp wall and its weakness to electricity can allow me to try to get the to put out a pokemon with an electric move to then switch out for electivire

Anti
December 6th, 2007, 03:52 AM
Mantine looks like a good Sp wall and its weakness to electricity can allow me to try to get the to put out a pokemon with an electric move to then switch out for electivire

That works. Sadly, I know very little on mantine :0 But it's like a special skarmory and not used neaely as often :P you could also run a volt absorb pokemon with it-like jolteon.

Eos Aduro
December 6th, 2007, 04:02 AM
A beller would be nice, and Mantine is SO UU its sad. Also, can Haze.

Koroc
December 6th, 2007, 07:54 PM
Miltank is a pretty good Wall.
This was its stats.
Miltank@Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
Nature: Impish
252 HP/6 Atk/252 Def
HP: 394
Atk: 197
Def: 339
SpAtk: 104
SpDef: 176
Speed: 236
Moves:
Milk Drink
Counter
Zen Headbutt
Stealth Rock
I with stood a Gyarados's Waterfall after 4 Dragon Dances and then Counter finished it.
After I used Milk drink twice against BLissey he switched for Infernape and I uses Zen headbutt and it took it halfway out.