The name of the "third version"?

[Nuke]

My two suggestions for a third version of D/P,

Garnet and the mascot, Giratina.

Or (I think this is more likely),

Mesprit as mascot but I wouldn't know name.

Why?

Because Mesprit (And the other two) have jewels on them and they are in sinnoh dex unlike Giratina or other suggestions. Mesprit (and the other two) also features in the story line.

[PB]

I thought the Thrid Verion was called Platinum.

You may be right about the mesprit thing though, because Crystal was about Scuince and lot of people are said Sinnoh and Jhoto are related.

[Horizon]

I believe it will be Opal version.

Giratina's name is derived from Girasol.

Girasol = A kind of Opal

Diamond, Pearl and Opal are all types of jewel

So the third version could be called Opal.

[carter756978]

Go here "i193 dot photobucket dot com/albums/z174/carter756978/GirintinaonDPbox.jpg"

[Nuke]

Go here "i193 dot photobucket dot com/albums/z174/carter756978/GirintinaonDPbox.jpg"

Fake.

No official nintendo logo.

Besides that logo and pkemon being in wrong place and Cero A what is that?

I'll show you Diamond box art and you will see much difference.

Besides it not coming from anywhere official.

Nvm Imageshack is being stupid so I cant atm.

[Shiny Umbreon]

Giratina is the most probable thing because it's just like Dialga and Palkia, but I started to doubt when I noticed it wasn't in the Sinnoh Dex. There are solutions, though:
a) Giratina does not participate much in the story. The only focus is both Dialga and Palkia. (As if Emerald, for example, was about Kyogre and Groudon and Rayquaza was not in the plot)
b) The story follows after beating the Elite Four so that you can get Giratina.
c) The story has Giratina on it but doesn't necessarily mean you will see or battle it before the Elite Four.

And I think they name could be opal, as many people have predicted.

[PB]

It will good if they do continue the Giratina part after the Elite4 because there isn't much to do after that

[ultradarkrai]

i thought the sequel wil be called pokemon gem diamonds and pearls are gems

[Artificial-Insanity]

as are Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald...

and Gold & Silver & Crystal are minerals...

Red, Blue, Green and Yellow are all colors...




hm... Opal DOES seem the best choice... and Giratina seems ALOT like Rayquaza was in R/S...

[Yingxue]

It'd be surprising if it WASN'T Giratina, though. But I doubt it'd be anything else.

I don't know what name sounds like it would fit...

[PB]

It'd be surprising if it WASN'T Giratina, though. But I doubt it'd be anything else.

I don't know what name sounds like it would fit...

I Would be surpised, but there are a lot of legendarys in D/P

[Rekky]

Ok, it can't be Giratina, Heatran, Cressilia or the last one that I can't remember the name of because they were not in the Sinnoh National Dex. It can't be Shaymin, Darkrai, or Arceus because they are events. It can't be Dialga or Palkia, because they were already used. That bring us to the conclusion of the trio. Mesprit. Because of Suicune.

Conclusion: Version Mascot = Mesprit.

Now, a name would help, they've already used Diamond and Pearl, so it has to be a gem... A gem to go with Mesprit, I was think quartzite, the pink sort of stone.

Conclusion: Game name - Pokemon Quartzite.

Just logic, really.

[Thomas]

The Pokemon Company would never name the game something so hard to pronounce. Most that play it are like 10 yrs. old. My guess is Opal Version.

[Rekky]

Sapphire was hard to pronnounce for ten year olds, and so was Crystal, those two are no harder to read than Quartzite.

[PB]

The Pokemon Company would never name the game something so hard to pronounce. Most that play it are like 10 yrs. old. My guess is Opal Version.

Yeah Opal is easy to produce and a really intresting name.

Ok, it can't be Giratina, Heatran, Cressilia or the last one that I can't remember the name of because they were not in the Sinnoh National Dex. It can't be Shaymin, Darkrai, or Arceus because they are events. It can't be Dialga or Palkia, because they were already used. That bring us to the conclusion of the trio. Mesprit. Because of Suicune

Unlikely but they might change the pokedex, becuase i don't think it was possible to get Raquaza before the league in R/S, they also may change the events. But it would be good to see a Ttio pokemon in the lime light. But that would probably introduce an annoying character like Eusigne (sp?)

[Thomas]

Sapphire was hard to pronnounce for ten year olds, and so was Crystal, those two are no harder to read than Quartzite.Well, considering if you age is real you were about 9 or 10 when those games came out, if you had problem pronouncing Sapphire or Crystal then...you probably have some learning disability like dyslexia.

[Rekky]

Well, considering if you age is real you were about 9 or 10 when those games came out, if you had problem pronouncing Sapphire or Crystal then...you probably have some learning disability like dyslexia.

Which I don't, so surely quartzite isn't all that hard, is it?

[Nuke]

Which I don't, so surely quartzite isn't all that hard, is it?

Probably, I've never heard of that word.

Besides, they would probably shorten it to Quartz if they had done that.

[Rekky]

Quartz isn't a gem though, Quartzite is.

[Nuke]

Quartz isn't a gem though, Quartzite is.

1. I said Quarts shortened from quartzite.
2. Lets just rule out this possibilty.

[Thomas]

Well no lets not rule it out, I never thought of shortening it. Pokemon Quartz version has a nice ring to it. XD

[Rekky]

1. I said Quarts shortened from quartzite.

It's a different word with a different meaning.

2. Lets just rule out this possibilty.

No.

[Lyra.]

as are Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald...

and Gold & Silver & Crystal are minerals...

Red, Blue, Green and Yellow are all colors...




hm... Opal DOES seem the best choice... and Giratina seems ALOT like Rayquaza was in R/S...
i have to agree... Opal seems to have to most votes on the next game title... & Giratina seems like Rayquaza too...

[bloo14]

hm...

giratina may seem like the best choice but i think it could be

1.mespirt
1.availble before e4
2.cystal involved running character

2.cressalia
1.prevents nightmares(darkrai) which could play a big part


3.darkrai
1.starts nightmares(cressalia)
2.was featured in the movie with dialga and palkia


4.arceus
1."god" pokemon
2.resides in spear pillar
3.could be a target of team galaxy

5.giratina
1.same base stat total as dialga and palkia
2.all of them look ugly
3.fits in ok as far as a storyline

6.or they might not make one at all

[BurstX]

i think its giritina or arceaus, its logic because the all look the same, well their face part, but regardless it couldnt be mespirit cause thats pat of the trio, so thats pointless

[Mr Slayer]

suicune was part of a trio
ive also seen a box with giratina on it and it had official stuff on it
they could just edit the pokedex so that giratina or what ever is in the sinnoh dex

[ultradarkrai]

colors...

please refer to my sig about not putting a u in colour

well sory i thought ruby sapphire and emerald were enhanced red blue and green

ive always wondered why isent there a pokemon sea blue as a 3rd game to pokemon fire red and leaf green

[Seen]

Ok, it can't be Giratina, Heatran, Cressilia or the last one that I can't remember the name of because they were not in the Sinnoh National Dex. It can't be Shaymin, Darkrai, or Arceus because they are events. It can't be Dialga or Palkia, because they were already used. That bring us to the conclusion of the trio. Mesprit. Because of Suicune.

Conclusion: Version Mascot = Mesprit.
I see your reasonings, but I have to disagree. Although there are the three Lake Pokemon as a trio, Mesprit, Uxie, and Azelf, they are all the same type and play an equal role in the plot of the story in the game. While Suicune in Crystal obviously played a major part in the plot, all you saw as Suicune, Suicune, Suicune. You didn't hear much about the other two.

Now, then, the two very main legendaries in Diamond and Pearl are, of course, Dialga and Palkia. These two are very much like Sapphire's and Ruby's Groundon and Kyogre. And as in Sapphire and Ruby, they have another legendary that doesn't play a huge part in the plot, Rayquaza. In this version we have Giratina.

But! Remember in Sapphire and Ruby, they have the same trio! Except, they are called Regirock, Regice, and Registeel! They were ignored, so what makes you think that Mesprit, Uxie, and Azelf will be put into the spotlight?

Now, a name would help, they've already used Diamond and Pearl, so it has to be a gem... A gem to go with Mesprit, I was think quartzite, the pink sort of stone.

Conclusion: Game name - Pokemon Quartzite.

Just logic, really.
*clears throat*
Yes, you are correct that the Quartzite is a gem. It's a beautiful one, indeed. But, if you did a little more research you would've seen that the Quartzite does not stick to one color. The colors vary a lot in Quartzite, and it is obviously not a popular stone that everyone knows.

Take the sapphire, for example. Now, the sapphire does not stick to a certain color, either, but it is a popular stone, known for it's blue color. Same with the ruby, except known for it's red. Diamonds are known for being clear, as are Pearls! They are all popular stones that are known for colors, yet the quartzite isn't a very well known stone.

Now, Opals are another commonly known gem, a lot of people know these because they are birth stones, and opal is no exception. The Opal is known for it's very pretty colors, or more like hues. The actual stone is rather clear, it all depends on the light that is on the certain part.

So, the conclusion is quite simple: Giratina as mascot, Opal as the gem.

[BurstX]

*clears throat*
Yes, you are correct that the Quartzite is a gem. It's a beautiful one, indeed. But, if you did a little more research you would've seen that the Quartzite does not stick to one color. The colors vary a lot in Quartzite, and it is obviously not a popular stone that everyone knows.



im not exactly sure if you realized it but wat you said about the Quartzite actually gives a good example for arceaus. the gem has many colors, and acreus has many coloreful forms, its almost as if you simply said that it is arceaus...if that didnt make any sence im sorry

[El Gofre]

Im gonna solve this thread. Its gonna be pokemon opal. Try www.pokemonopal.com, nintendo have bought it.

[BurstX]

Im gonna solve this thread. Its gonna be pokemon opal. Try www.pokemonopal.com, nintendo have bought it.

...how does that spport anythimg...all it does is lead to nintendo's home page

[Seen]

im not exactly sure if you realized it but wat you said about the Quartzite actually gives a good example for arceaus. the gem has many colors, and acreus has many coloreful forms, its almost as if you simply said that it is arceaus...if that didnt make any sence im sorry
Almost all stones come in a whole crap load of colors, but are only known for certain colors, like I explained.

[iLike2EatPiez]

I don't see how Giratina is negatively debatable. Sure, it's not in the Sinnoh Dex, but that really doesn't matter much. You can get a Pokemon without it being on your current dex, trading has proven. One of the most notable things: It's a huge Dragon/Ghost Type. Doesn't it seem like a huge Dragon/Ghost fits in nicely beside a huge Dragon/Steel and a huge Dragon/Water, and much moreso than any of the other possibilities. And, if they don't use Giratina, won't it seem a bit odd? If they have a Pokemon that looks and seems perfect for the slot just sitting there, but Nintendo chooses to use a pink pixie or the ultimate Pokemon (also an event Pokemon) instead, wouldn't that just seem a bit strange to notice?

If they use Darkrai, then thet's just kind of random; it's going to be in a movie, but pulling it out from the three event Pokemon and leaving just Shaymin and Arceus... The same applies to Shaymin. Arceus is understandable to wonder about, since it's the god of all Pokemon, but still, that kind of power packed by those kinds of stats seems just a bit too much to keep easily and readily available.

Well, if I end up wrong, I'll probably laughing at myself with everyone else. Oh yeah, and here's a fun little idea: What about Heatran for the mascot? Or better yet, Rotom! lol. <don't shoot me! I was joking!!>

As for the name, here's my thoughts. If they use...

Giratina-Opal
Mesprit-No idea
Arceus-Quartz (it might not technically be a gem according to some people, but it's a simple form of 'Quartzite' and I think it's more fun to say "Pokemon Quartz" than "Pokemon Quartzite". Either one could happen though.)

OR, perhaps to add a new mineral in, what about Topaz?

[Nuke]

It's a huge Dragon/Ghost Type. Doesn't it seem like a huge Dragon/Ghost fits in nicely beside a huge Dragon/Steel and a huge Dragon/Water

That one point right there has thrown my whole idea about it.

My main choice is Giratina now.

Mesprit is an outside for me though.

[bloo14]

enough of mespirt

its too weak anyway

whats the name gonna be?

pokemon emotion verision?

[iLike2EatPiez]

pokemon emotion verision?

Um... the topic for titles is gems, hence "Diamond and Pearl".

[Skaterzpenguin]

I say its arceaus, but I could be wrong... lol

[-.-]

Well as some of you know..

Pokemon Opal is going to get released in late May 2008..

Giratina is going to be on the front of it because

Giratina is derived from a latin word meaning ;

Girasol- Dark Opaque Opal

"Sort of matches what Giratina is [Dark,Ghostly]"

[Nuke]

Pokemon Opal is going to get released in late May 2008..

Source?

Besides, all of Pokemon's third editions so far have came out around two years after the originals.

[bloo14]

then it would be 2009 unless your in japan

[Waker of Chaos]

I'm thinking either Darkrai or Giratina. The only thing is, even though Darkrai's an "event" Pokémon, we know absolutely nothing about Giratina, other than what's in the Pokédex, and the speculation about Giratina being the Death Guardian.

My vote's for Darkrai just because it's cooler.

[Mechanic]

as are Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald...

and Gold & Silver & Crystal are minerals...

Red, Blue, Green and Yellow are all colors...




hm... Opal DOES seem the best choice... and Giratina seems ALOT like Rayquaza was in R/S...

True but in the movies they highlighted Rayquaza as you said but in the latest movie they highlighted more Darkrai together with Palkia and Dialga so i would not be surprised if the new game is Darkrai for the reason substented above.

[rocky55]

Topaz with a giratina on the cover '
Shadow with a darkrai
Cresent Cressila

[iLike2EatPiez]

Shadow with a darkrai
Cresent Cressila

YET AGAIN, the 4th gen titles are gems. Diamond. Pearl. Topaz. Opal. Amethyst. Quartz. These are examples.

[Nuke]

as are Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald...

and Gold & Silver & Crystal are minerals...

Red, Blue, Green and Yellow are all colors...




hm... Opal DOES seem the best choice... and Giratina seems ALOT like Rayquaza was in R/S...

Wait so do Palkia and Dialga fight and Giratina stops them? [And Giratina might be available to catch before the pokemon league?]

[Artificial-Insanity]

isn't Giratina the Dimensional Guardian? Does it seem to you that Dimension goes with Time and Space?

Wait a minute...

I change my mind, I think Mesprit fits better!

Remember when the dude (I forget who) chained up Dailga/Palkia, then Dailga/Palkia got wild? Then Mesprit and her siblings came in to stop D/P?







let's modify the plot a bit:

The Battle of Time and Space has become gargantuine... Dailga and Palkia have both run loose and are in a battle for control of the universe!

(here's a basic layout of what happens:

There are referances to both Dailga AND Palkia, rather than just one,

Basic plot of D/P, but when it comes to awakening the legendary, the whole plot shifts!

now, instead of TG waking one legend... they try to awaken both! however, it only causes an all-out battle of the universe! and suddenly... who's that in the sky?

A black Dragon? Giratina to the resque! And did he bring backup!? Why, it's none other than the pixie trio!

the chain of what happens next:

Dailga and Palkia get into a fight
Giratina comes in to settle the score
After the battle, Mesprit sends the dragons of to their own caves/islands/whatever to rest. Mesprit and her siblings then return to their caves

You can then go catch them...






um... yeah... I'll leave this for you guys to debate

[Nuke]

Giratina is the Renegade pokemon which i should get a definition for.

When I thought of Dialga and Palkia fighting in it, I thought maybe Mesprit again.

deserter: a disloyal person who betrays or deserts his cause or religion or political party or friend etc.

^ Thats a definition for Renegade. Maybe Giratina betrays Dialga and Palkia to stop them?

Only other definition is rebel which would have no meaning to Giratina.

[bloo14]

isn't Giratina the Dimensional Guardian? Does it seem to you that Dimension goes with Time and Space?

Wait a minute...

I change my mind, I think Mesprit fits better!

Remember when the dude (I forget who) chained up Dailga/Palkia, then Dailga/Palkia got wild? Then Mesprit and her siblings came in to stop D/P?


let's modify the plot a bit:

The Battle of Time and Space has become gargantuine... Dailga and Palkia have both run loose and are in a battle for control of the universe!

(here's a basic layout of what happens:

There are referances to both Dailga AND Palkia, rather than just one,

Basic plot of D/P, but when it comes to awakening the legendary, the whole plot shifts!

now, instead of TG waking one legend... they try to awaken both! however, it only causes an all-out battle of the universe! and suddenly... who's that in the sky?

A black Dragon? Giratina to the resque! And did he bring backup!? Why, it's none other than the pixie trio!

the chain of what happens next:

Dailga and Palkia get into a fight
Giratina comes in to settle the score
After the battle, Mesprit sends the dragons of to their own caves/islands/whatever to rest. Mesprit and her siblings then return to their caves

You can then go catch them...






um... yeah... I'll leave this for you guys to debate

yea

they can have that battle in the town with the cave aswell

[Nuke]

You know we had an argument about Quartzite and Quartz?

Well Quartz is a possible name for the game, it is a type of crystal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz

[ultradarkrai]

Mesprit (And the other two)

the other 2 are uxie and azelf

i think cressilia is the mascot he has diamond and pearl colours on him hes multicoloured

[capalex65]

If it were to go with Quartz, my bid would be that Arceus is the one, he has many forms/colors, as does Quartz

[Loud and Annoying Pidgey]

Arceus Is The God Pokemon So It Does Make Sence.

[Team Poison]

Diamond & Pearl are clearly Gem's so look at this.

Diamond & Dialga begin with a D.

Pearl & Palkia begin with a P.

So that means the mascot for the third game will have to match up to another gem's first letter.

So these Pokémon might be the Mascot.

Garnet = Giratina
Amethyst = Arceus
Aquamarine = Azelf
Moonstone = Mesprit

These are the only ones that match with the first letters to Gem Names.

So

Pokémon Garnet
or
Pokémon Amethyst
or
Pokémon Aquamarine
or
Pokémon Moonstone

So my verdict is "Pokémon Garnet" because the name sound right and the mascot has to be Giratina

[DrCoolSanta]

TP, I thought the same way, but I rather thought that TPC will not consider that they had first letters same in the names of games and pokemon, it could be a coincedence. All these just don't seem right.

I would like it to be mespirit, but I do feel that it has a high chance of being Opal.

[Loud and Annoying Pidgey]

its weird because look:

Emerald-Rayquaza
Ruby-Groudon
Saphire-Kyogre
Gold- Ho-oH
Silver-Lugia

Those Names Dont Match Up One Bit.

[lilbl4ze]

I think it'll be called jade but idk who should be on there

i found this on google
its called opal but idk if its official but hes clearly holding it

www(dot)pkstation(dot)com/pokemondandp/wp-content/1179314248964.jpg

[Jim]

Diamond & Pearl are clearly Gem's so look at this.

Diamond & Dialga begin with a D.

Pearl & Palkia begin with a P.

So that means the mascot for the third game will have to match up to another gem's first letter.

So these Pokémon might be the Mascot.

Garnet = Giratina
Amethyst = Arceus
Aquamarine = Azelf
Moonstone = Mesprit


No, Dialga and Palkia's names are based on "Diamond" and "Pearl" which are the game names:

Dialga (Diarugia): The Dia in its name is derived from the word diamond, even though the Japanese word for diamond is ダイヤモンド daiyamondo. The "ga" part in its name may be a corruption of "gon", referring to its origin and type.

Palkia (Parugia): The Pal (Paru) in its name is derived from the Japanese word for pearl, パール pāru.

^From Bulbapedia^

The Game's name is not based on the Pokemon's name, the Pokemon's name is based on the game's name.

So if what you're saying is true then they'll introduce a new Pokemon, which of course they will not.

But anyway, I'm voting for Giratina and Quartz. (Considering Garnets are, for the most part, Red and Giratina is not).

Unless they pull a Crystal did and put Uxie, Mesprit or Azelf on the front... (Then it would probablly be called Pokemon Amber (Uxie), Amythest (Mesprit) or Aquamarine (Azelf))

[Magnezone]

Well, can't the fact about Giratina not being in the Sinnoh dex technically be remedied by just adding it in the third version, somewhat like a No. 152? Because as far as I know Rayquaza was an after-Elite Four Pkmn in R/S but they shifted it ahead in the storyline in Emerald. So I think that could happen. Well, we could just wait and see. In G/S, the third version's Suicune was totally random, so anything could happen. For all we know, it could be Rotom! (Ok, even that's going a little too far...)

[Zabuza1991]

I realy don't think a 3rd one will come out.

D/P have all the Pokemon covered from this gen. And you can transfer the other gen. pokemon to D/P..... I don't see why they would.

[Jim]

I realy don't think a 3rd one will come out.

D/P have all the Pokemon covered from this gen. And you can transfer the other gen. pokemon to D/P..... I don't see why they would.

R/B covered them all when they introduced Yellow, but that was more of a Special Edition to relate too the Anime.

But G/S/R/B covered all the Pokemon before they introduced Crystal so... You never know.

[Zabuza1991]

I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see it out.

[Kuro]

I believe it will be Opal version.

Giratina's name is derived from Girasol.

Girasol = A kind of Opal

Diamond, Pearl and Opal are all types of jewel

So the third version could be called Opal.

What they said. It's pretty much certain. Dialga and Palkia. Diamond and Pearl. See a pattern emerging?

[Pokemon Professor]

Ok, here's what I think. First off, someone in another topic made the discovery that if you go to www.pokemonopal.com (http://www.pokemonopal.com/) you get redirected to www.nintendo.com/countryselector (http://www.nintendo.com/countryselector) and after trying this, it did work. However, I also tried www.pokemontopaz.com (http://www.pokemontopaz.com/) and it gave me the same result. Then again, www.pokemonquartz.com (http://www.pokemonquartz.com/) gave me a non-loading page. Just a white page that never loaded. www.pokemongarnet.com (http://www.pokemongarnet.com/) and www.pokemonquartzite.com (http://www.pokemonquartzite.com/) on the other hand, gave me the Live Search Page Cannot Be Found No Results thing. So I think Nintendo currently have two names in the running that are redirecting to their site atm. Opal and Topaz. www.pokemonaquamarine.com (http://www.pokemonaquamarine.com/), www.pokemonmoonstone.com (http://www.pokemonmoonstone.com/) and www.pokemonamethyest.com (http://www.pokemonamethyest.com/) returned no results as well.

So now, let's have a look at previous 3rd version games. Pokémon Yellow - a special edition where your starter is a Pikachu and you can obtain a surfing Pikachu as well as obtaining all the starters with in the game. Pikachu also follows you instead of just being normally in your party.

Crystal changed the storyline a bit - while Entei and Raikou ran off, you could this time actually have a proper battle with Suicune.

Emerald rearranged the storyline and the game a bit. Kyogre and Groudon were only obtained AFTER the Pokémon League was beaten and Rayquaza BEFORE this time round. As well as that, Wallace was the champion, Steven was in Meteor Falls and Wallace's mentor was Sootopolis gym leader. You also had to go and fetch Rayquaza to stop K&G's rampage and finally, both Team Magma and Team Aqua were against you and you could actually access the Magma base this time which introduce a new item - the Magma Emblem.

Diamond and Pearl had a good storyline however, there wasn't heaps to it. By changing R/S when Emerald was released, it's easy to see how little changes made a huge impact on rearranging the storyline and making it bigger and better. They could easily do that for a new game. As with everyone else, I think Giratina could be the next Pokémon on the cover (the mascot).

However, no one has really thought of Heatran or Regigigas. I think Heatran can be crossed out but what about Regigigas? I think it's either Giratina or Regigigas. Why? 11th movie anyone? It contains them both, as well as Shaymin but he is likely to be discluded as the mascot due to being an event Pokémon which also rules out Darkrai and Arceus.

What else? Well Regigigas has gems on him representing Regice, Reigsteel and Regirock. He also has gold on him and moss. I can't really remember but if I remember rightly, topaz has a goldy colour to it. Meaning it could well go along side Regigigas.

With the undecided new title, I think Nintendo has registered the domains www.pokemonopal.com (http://www.pokemonopal.com/) and www.pokemontopaz.com (http://www.pokemontopaz.com/) until they decide on one, create it and create a mini-site for it (if they do a mini-site).

Finally, I would like to close with this: There may not be a 3rd Sinnoh game. Unfortunately, a new version of G/S/C was never made. But also, Fire Red and Leaf Green - remakes with new features. Mainly just to give us old Pokémon in new games. The sevii-islands got rid of the need for a Johto remake to get Johto Pokémon, aided by the Emerald Safari Zone extension with Johto Pokémon. Fire Red and Leaf Green though. They were remakes. But we never saw a 3rd version of them. In other words, they never remade Yellow. On purpose? Not enough time? No one knows. Except Nintendo....

[Nuke]

I think Heatran can be crossed out but what about Regigigas?
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Unless they tweak it so you dont need the three Regis for Regigigas, it wont be Regigigas.

[Burgers Rule]

This is what I think...
Dialga: Already used
Palkia: Also already used
Azelf: Very unlikely, because it has no main role in the game besides stopping Dialga+Palkia
Uxie: See above
Mesprit: Somewhat likely. It has a decent role in the game and (like Suicune) in the most used of the three in the game, BUT, think about it, two dragon creatures ruling time and space, and then; a tiny pink weakling that runs whenevr you approach it: no way.
Cressilia: Huh. It might be it, because Moonstone could be the game title and it would bring peace to Dialga and Palkia, but it doesn't seem to fit between two evil dragons.
Heatran: Actually sort of makes sense. Heatran plays a big role in the game, because you half to search in the huge mountain and it's mentioned in the islands in DP. But, it kind of falls back because it isn't even mentioned until you get to a far away volcano in a far away group of islands, and it really has no importance.
Giratina: Most likely choice. It is also a fearsome dragon type, it has a sort of important role, and it's name does go with opal. Plus, the fearsome Giratina should of had a larger role anyway, so this would be it's chance to shine.
Darkrai: Another likely choice. Its reference to Dialga and Palkia in the movie adds to my thought, but having an event Pokemon on the cover would ruin a chance for Nintendo to have another P-Mon event.
Shaymin: A pathetic little grass hedgehog that I've never seen used. Yeah, sure.
Arceus: Maybe, but Arceus has amazind stats with WAY too high stats. It wouldn't fit to have everyone having the most powerful Pokemon ever.

Maybe there won't be one, since the 4th gen covered all the other gens Pokemon. I sort of hope they're will be one just to have a new take on the best Pokemon game so far.

I'm sticking with Giratina and Pokemon Opal.

[Saryka]

My theory is that if they made a third 4th gen game, it'd be Opal. I forget why, but I think it has to do with Giratina D:

[Callydude™]

Giratina's wings have a form of opal on them so I think it will be opal aswell.

[Jim]

Ok, here's what I think. First off, someone in another topic made the discovery that if you go to www.pokemonopal.com (http://www.pokemonopal.com/) you get redirected to www.nintendo.com/countryselector (http://www.nintendo.com/countryselector) and after trying this, it did work. However, I also tried www.pokemontopaz.com (http://www.pokemontopaz.com/) and it gave me the same result. Then again, www.pokemonquartz.com (http://www.pokemonquartz.com/) gave me a non-loading page. Just a white page that never loaded. www.pokemongarnet.com (http://www.pokemongarnet.com/) and www.pokemonquartzite.com (http://www.pokemonquartzite.com/) on the other hand, gave me the Live Search Page Cannot Be Found No Results thing. So I think Nintendo currently have two names in the running that are redirecting to their site atm. Opal and Topaz. www.pokemonaquamarine.com (http://www.pokemonaquamarine.com/), www.pokemonmoonstone.com (http://www.pokemonmoonstone.com/) and www.pokemonamethyest.com (http://www.pokemonamethyest.com/) returned no results as well.

With the undecided new title, I think Nintendo has registered the domains www.pokemonopal.com (http://www.pokemonopal.com/) and www.pokemontopaz.com (http://www.pokemontopaz.com/) until they decide on one, create it and create a mini-site for it (if they do a mini-site).


Nice sleuthing, also Giratina's name is partly based on Girasol which I'm pretty sure somebody in this thread said was an Opal. And if it has an Opal on it's body somewhere, like Palkia's Shoulder and Dialga's Crest, then I'm 99.999999999999998% sure the game will be Giratina based.

[El Gofre]

www.pokemonopal.com

The fact that nintendo have bought it is proof enough. There. Name sorted.

[Pokemon Professor]

Actually, I think it is most likely Opal HOWEVER don't forget, Nintendo has in their possestion two current websites that redirect to their site: www.pokemonopal.com (http://www.pokemonopal.com) AND www.pokemontopaz.com (http://www.pokemontopaz.com) which are the two I am stuck in the middle of. You see, Giratina and Opal go together but as I already said, I reckon Regigigas and Topaz could possibly go together as well and seeing as they are both in the 11th movie, who knows what could happen.

Maybe we'll actually see something new - a 4th gen sequel like previous sequels but instead of a single sequel, it's a duo sequel meaning Topaz and Opal?

Who knows. But with both of those names owned by Nintendo, our best bet currently is to keep checking them every day until we find one that doesn't work any more or perhaps both. If only one of them suddenly becomes inactive and doesn't work any more, we know the other one is what the game will be. However, it could be that it's a dual-sequel.

If both go inactive though, either Nintendo is down or they are getting ready to announce the upcoming new game(s) and we will have to wait from then on.

[TheSilverVersion]

I really doubt that a third version will be based on gritana.

Lets look at third versions of the past:

Yellow In my opinion, yellow served two purposes, both of which were used to keep interest in pokemon.
1. To upgrade pokemon into a colored, more clear form. It gave pokemon the appearences that they would have for future versions of the game, as well as make a persons favorite pokemon more recognisable for other products in the pokemon marketing world.
2. Draw people into pokemon. Pikachu is after all, a sort of "Flagship" pokemon. It also would perhaps atract those who were more interested in the anime.

Crystal Crystals purpose was an expansion on the Gold and silver games. It gave us a slightly expanded knowledge on the unknown, as well as an additional plotline. Suicune was its star. They could however insert it into the metal generation without having to worry about matching up with the other two mascots for gold and silver, Lugia, and Ho-Ho, because those two pokemon weren't really ever part of the plot.

Emerald This version fit in very well with the ruby and saphire plot. Groudon represented the land, while Kyogre represented the Seas. However, Rayquaza was already established in those versions as a representative of the sky. All three of these versions fit in very well with one another, forming a triangle of Earth, Water, and Sky.

Now, in the diamond pearl seires, there are also legendaries woven into the plot. These two are Palkia, of Space, and Dialga, of time. Space and Time are two pieces of the same pie, making up for the entirety of the universe.

So where could Gritana possibly fit in to the plot of Diamond and Pearl? It lives in another dimention. A weird Graveyard thing. So how does that fit into time and space? If you have generalized the universe down to consisting of time and space, there is no third peice to that.

Its a spooky Dragon Ghost thing that you can capture only after you defeat the elite four and see all pokemon in the D/P pokedex. Gritana isn't even in the Sinnoh Dex. I highly doubt that they would edit the Sinnoh Dex in order to make it so you need to have seen 151 pokemon, even if they could some how work it into the plot.

It isn't a "Flagship" pokemon. Its even obscure in a way. So it can't be like Yellow.

The plot has the main mascots already woven into the story line. So it can't be like Crystal.

It isn't a third peice of a trio, so it can't be emerald.

I admit that the name Opal would fit in very well with both Diamond and Pearl. But Gritana as a mascot makes almost no sense at all. Both of the Mascots of Diamond and Pearl had either a clearly defined pearl or diamon peice on them. Gritana has nothing of the sort.

So my money goes on one of the three spirits, purley because they are the only other legendaries that appear in the sinnoh dex. But evan one of them as a mascot makes little sense, because although they are a big part of the plot, they are represented in the plot as a trio. The legendary dogs were a trio, but one could be singled out because they were not originaly woven into the Gold Silver plotline. The three spirits are already represented in the plot, and as such, are stuck there.

[Sweet Candace]

Well, in the manga, the third member has the third game name (Yellow, Crystal, Emerald). So, whatever the third game name is, Lady Berlitz would be that name. But, anyway, I do like Opal, since Giratina has Opal in it's sprite (I think...)

[Pokemon Professor]

Well you are right and wrong. I highly doubt it's one of the 4th gen trio. They already serve their purpose as you said. Giratina may not fit in under what you said BUT it does feature in the 11th movie as well as Regigigas. Which means it's possible either one of them could be it. You see, Regigigas isn't really explained much and neither is Giratina. I think that both of them have interesting backgrounds that could indeed be extended into new storyline extensions.

Remember, both of them are in the 11th movie and Dialga and Palkia again feature in the 11th movie too so there could be another link. Until the 11th movie, no one knows. But it's possible it might weave in with what you said, TheSilverVersion.

The thing is, there's the two of them. Which brings me back to the dual-sequel idea. Oh yes. The other thing. The Pokédex problem. Remember that the trio have a full storyline. It's complete. Remember that in Emerald, Kyogre and Groudon were woven into the storyline like R/S but weren't capturable until you beat the league which got you the National Dex. Now think about this - if you played through the game normally and battling most trainers, you'd also unlock the national dex in the 4th generation.

Regigigas and Giratina are also both found in the mainland and not in the Battle Zone. Further more, it's possible for them to add some 'legend and myth' stuff to the game about them as well because of what they did with Dialga and Palkia. Also, in Emerald, there was Team Magma's base introducded and a whole new look on the Groudon/Kyogre parts as they had changed a bit.

Two last things I'd like to bring to attention. In Emerald, the events happened between the 7th and 8th gym right? Well, in D/P, Regigigas is in the Snowpoint Temple. Snowpoint is the 7th gym. Coincidence?

Also, Spring Path. Takes you to... Sendoff Spring. This is part of the storyline never covered. There is something about a 4th lake and then suddenly you're there but... no story to it! Plus Giratina is in there. So much points towards Giratina. Same with Regigigas. I really think a dual-sequel could be the answer but I don't really have a clue...

[Kittyipawd]

Ok, here's what I think. First off, someone in another topic made the discovery that if you go to www.pokemonopal.com (http://www.pokemonopal.com/) you get redirected to www.nintendo.com/countryselector (http://www.nintendo.com/countryselector) and after trying this, it did work. However, I also tried www.pokemontopaz.com (http://www.pokemontopaz.com/) and it gave me the same result. Then again, www.pokemonquartz.com (http://www.pokemonquartz.com/) gave me a non-loading page. Just a white page that never loaded. www.pokemongarnet.com (http://www.pokemongarnet.com/) and www.pokemonquartzite.com (http://www.pokemonquartzite.com/) on the other hand, gave me the Live Search Page Cannot Be Found No Results thing. So I think Nintendo currently have two names in the running that are redirecting to their site atm. Opal and Topaz. www.pokemonaquamarine.com (http://www.pokemonaquamarine.com/), www.pokemonmoonstone.com (http://www.pokemonmoonstone.com/) and www.pokemonamethyest.com (http://www.pokemonamethyest.com/) returned no results as well.

So now, let's have a look at previous 3rd version games. Pokémon Yellow - a special edition where your starter is a Pikachu and you can obtain a surfing Pikachu as well as obtaining all the starters with in the game. Pikachu also follows you instead of just being normally in your party.

Crystal changed the storyline a bit - while Entei and Raikou ran off, you could this time actually have a proper battle with Suicune.

Emerald rearranged the storyline and the game a bit. Kyogre and Groudon were only obtained AFTER the Pokémon League was beaten and Rayquaza BEFORE this time round. As well as that, Wallace was the champion, Steven was in Meteor Falls and Wallace's mentor was Sootopolis gym leader. You also had to go and fetch Rayquaza to stop K&G's rampage and finally, both Team Magma and Team Aqua were against you and you could actually access the Magma base this time which introduce a new item - the Magma Emblem.

Diamond and Pearl had a good storyline however, there wasn't heaps to it. By changing R/S when Emerald was released, it's easy to see how little changes made a huge impact on rearranging the storyline and making it bigger and better. They could easily do that for a new game. As with everyone else, I think Giratina could be the next Pokémon on the cover (the mascot).

However, no one has really thought of Heatran or Regigigas. I think Heatran can be crossed out but what about Regigigas? I think it's either Giratina or Regigigas. Why? 11th movie anyone? It contains them both, as well as Shaymin but he is likely to be discluded as the mascot due to being an event Pokémon which also rules out Darkrai and Arceus.

What else? Well Regigigas has gems on him representing Regice, Reigsteel and Regirock. He also has gold on him and moss. I can't really remember but if I remember rightly, topaz has a goldy colour to it. Meaning it could well go along side Regigigas.

With the undecided new title, I think Nintendo has registered the domains www.pokemonopal.com (http://www.pokemonopal.com/) and www.pokemontopaz.com (http://www.pokemontopaz.com/) until they decide on one, create it and create a mini-site for it (if they do a mini-site).

Finally, I would like to close with this: There may not be a 3rd Sinnoh game. Unfortunately, a new version of G/S/C was never made. But also, Fire Red and Leaf Green - remakes with new features. Mainly just to give us old Pokémon in new games. The sevii-islands got rid of the need for a Johto remake to get Johto Pokémon, aided by the Emerald Safari Zone extension with Johto Pokémon. Fire Red and Leaf Green though. They were remakes. But we never saw a 3rd version of them. In other words, they never remade Yellow. On purpose? Not enough time? No one knows. Except Nintendo....

Ok that is so false about no johto games , I remember reading a article on bublapedia that there is data for a pokemon to be breed in johto , and caught in game , it is like R/S with kantp's FR/LG , ok and opal make too much sense( yet I don't approve of giratina as a mascot) , and why wouldn't they make a 3rd game , first of all only really thing to do after you beat game is "wifi battles" and if you arent compeitive then this doesn’t matter to you , also you have to make emerald to shame , emerald was an awesome game , the battle frontier was so good , but on to real point when you consider this stuff think of johto because it is highly likely they will come out , so maybe some connection with them . Also a park ball has gold and top, silverish color on bottom and a crystal band please........... That is a major hint


I support darkrai and cressilia as Duel-mascots why?????? Because it would add something new. Every third brought a different type of mascot, yellow was so anime based, crystal's suicune was really random.........., emerald used the third legend of the more important trio. So what is stopping Nintendo from doing a duel mascot, it would make an interesting story, but then they would have to make a name for 2 pokes.

[Pokemon Professor]

OMG aren't you an annoying person. I can't understand what the heck you're on about with your bad English. You are also completely wrong. Whilst Darkrai and Cresselia may fit for a Dual-mascot thing, it won't happen. Darkrai is probably one of the most liklely but he's an event. It won't happen. Even though he is referrenced throughout the game. Then again, so was Mew in another game or two. I can't remember which.

And yes, the Johto remakes DO NOT EXIST! Ask any normal person who knows this sort of stuff. Email Pokemon.com if you are so confident.

Damn you, you're an idiot. Just read my last post and don't even BOTHER posting if all you can say is random words and rubbish lies and rumours.

Ok that is so false about no johto games , I remember reading a article on bublapedia that there is data for a pokemon to be breed in johto , and caught in game , it is like R/S with kantp's FR/LG , ok and opal make too much sense( yet I don't approve of giratina as a mascot) , and why wouldn't they make a 3rd game , first of all only really thing to do after you beat game is "wifi battles" and if you arent compeitive then this doesn’t matter to you , also you have to make emerald to shame , emerald was an awesome game , the battle frontier was so good , but on to real point when you consider this stuff think of johto because it is highly likely they will come out , so maybe some connection with them . Also a park ball has gold and top, silverish color on bottom and a crystal band please........... That is a major hint


I support darkrai and cressilia as Duel-mascots why?????? Because it would add something new. Every third brought a different type of mascot, yellow was so anime based, crystal's suicune was really random.........., emerald used the third legend of the more important trio. So what is stopping Nintendo from doing a duel mascot, it would make an interesting story, but then they would have to make a name for 2 pokes.

[Kittyipawd]

Yeah I edited it so it would be understandable, sadly I though no one was looking and please the last part of your post made me want to throw up, the 3rd game is always the best part of the generation, people are still playing emerald because it is fun, D/P is nothing without wifi, the 3rd game always brings the extra "fun" stuff (I Just use the other versions to train) so Nintendo would be crazy not to do it.

Also there is nothing stopping Nintendo doing duel mascots, but if I had to pick one it would be giratina. Also even if is an event what difference does it make?

[Pokemon Professor]

THANK YOU for fixing it. I never said anything about Diamond and Pearl being fun. They are though and I do have to agree the 'sequel' game is always better. Diamond and Pearl have brought a lot to play and not just WiFi so you're again wrong. No events are in-game and that has been the rule for... ever. Japan makes the rules remember. And they have already made their mind's up on that one. Never before have you been able to get an even pokemon in-game without cheating. Darkrai is no exception. It requires an item to get to and that is given away through an event. Too much reprogramming anyway.

Yeah I edited it so it would be understandable, sadly I though no one was looking and please the last part of your post made me want to throw up, the 3rd game is always the best part of the generation, people are still playing emerald because it is fun, D/P is nothing without wifi, the 3rd game always brings the extra "fun" stuff (I Just use the other versions to train) so Nintendo would be crazy not to do it.

Also there is nothing stopping Nintendo doing duel mascots, but if I had to pick one it would be giratina. Also even if is an event what difference does it make?

[Kittyipawd]

Ok to all those that believe in mesprit the only reason you believe in him is because of crystal, he is the one of the trio that stands out, but when we were guessing emerald we were using crystal logic, now were using emerald logic, if it was emerald based it would be giratina, if it was crystal based it would be mesprit, if it were yellow based then who cares????

I believe Nintendo will do something new and out of the blue ..... Maybe ROTOM *don't judge me*

[Pokemon Professor]

TDB_leader, I think you're on to something now but who knows? I still support the dual-sequel idea of mine. It does behold a lot of logic. Rotom isn't legendary though but... Maybe they'll use him and extend the Old Chateau story? I mean, it hasn't always been legendaries on the cover. R/B/Y/Fr/Lg prove that. I also highly doubt it's Mesprit. His story is complete. What else could they possibly add? (rhetorical question...)

[Kittyipawd]

Nah I was trying to be sarcastic but if seriously people GIRATINA is like rayquaza before emerald

CRESSELIA IS OUT FOR IT NEEDS DARKRAI or IT WON'T BE COMPLETE

Shaymin, and other events I guess by professor’s logic won't happen, besides all of people who started with 151 prefer mew because it is our Arceus.

The trio is too bland for one too stands on its own, and tri mascots are TOO far.

Also Garnet and Opal make too much sense

[Pokemon Professor]

I know you were being sarcatic. Hey wait - Giratina is part Ghost-type! Perhaps it's related to the Old Chateau somehow? Garnet is not it. I still reckon it is dual-sequeled with Topaz and Opal. Giratina would fit in with a lot of a plot to be added upon. Regigigas, as I've said, could also be added upon but I think if anything, Giratina is a definite.

When you say 'too much sense', what exactly do you mean? That they are too obvious, that they are the most likely or what?

[Nuke]

BRAINFLASH:

Spear pillar has load of pillars right?


And Turnback cave [Which is where you catch Giratina] has them too.

[Pokemon Professor]

Hey yea! Good thinking! If memory serves, think Snowpoint Temple where Regigigas has contains some pillars or wall drawings or something.

[TheSilverVersion]

Pillars are a very common way in video games to potray something as being ancient. Just because two buildings use a rellativly common structural support does not mean that the pokemon that inhabit them are related.

[Nuke]

Pillars are a very common way in video games to potray something as being ancient. Just because two buildings use a rellativly common structural support does not mean that the pokemon that inhabit them are related.

Not that common in pokemon games though.

Must of us have went for Giratina anyway.

[Olz.]

Well i know that the names going to be Pokemon Opal! Because of the fast that nintendo have reserved the website:
www.pokemonopal.com (http://www.pokemonopal.com)
xP

[Nuke]

They also have reserved Topaz though and that still doesnt confirm that they are going to name the game that.

[Pokemon Professor]

Thank you, Skii. Yes, people, for the last time, don't keep saying it's Opal! Remember www.pokemontopaz.com (http://www.pokemontopaz.com) is ALSO reserved! The pillars - sure there's some ancient stuff but I don't know. We'll find out soon enough.

[Always and Never]

Thank you, Skii. Yes, people, for the last time, don't keep saying it's Opal! Remember www.pokemontopaz.com (http://www.pokemontopaz.com) is ALSO reserved! The pillars - sure there's some ancient stuff but I don't know. We'll find out soon enough.

Poke DawnGold and DuskSilver is also copyrighted to Nintendo, but that doesn't mean they're going to make the games. It's just to make sure no one else does ;D

[Glacier]

it can't be Quartz Thats Baro's Copyright

[Tortured_Soul]

Pokemon Lazul....lol, as in Lapis Lazul. But seriously, this is all speculatory. We don't even know there will be a game. Although we would all like one. I personally would like a Gold / Silver remake, but all 493 pokemon in the game. Gold / Silver were the best gen, partly because they went the longest. Let's just wait for a while, no doubt if there is a game to come, it will be announced late 2008, early 2009.

~T_S

[Triggz]

well raquaza wasnt really in the story until emerald.

i heard it was opal too

[Lockmaster24]

I think Opal with Mesprit because they have no other legends besides Manaphy that they can put in and Mesprit was the major one of the Psychic Trio

[Nuke]

I think Opal with Mesprit because they have no other legends besides Manaphy that they can put in and Mesprit was the major one of the Psychic Trio

Much more reasons for Giratina.

[Olz.]

I am starting to thik its Girantina.. Because the next movie is coming it, and it's about Girantina. But for all we know, it could be Rotom xP

[Nuke]

I am starting to thik its Girantina.. Because the next movie is coming it, and it's about Girantina. But for all we know, it could be Rotom xP

Rotom can breed so its doubtful.

[Rekky]

Rotom can breed so its doubtful.

Rotom was never part of the question.

It can't be Giratina, because that Pokemon, along with Cressilia, Heatran and Regigas are not in the Sinnoh National Dex, so with those ruled out, you have Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf, Manaphy, Phione, Dialga and Palkia.

So:

Manaphy, Phione, Dialga and Palkia out for obvious reasons.

That leaves us with Uxie, Azelf and Mesprit.

It's going to be Quartz, Mesprit.

[TeirusuFX]

My best guess is going to be Girantina or Manaphy

The gem is probably going to be Opal or Spinel or Aquamarine

♪LoaferBoyzX♪

[Blk_Ducky]

I thought the Thrid Verion was called Platinum.


Lies! All lies! And rumours!

I would say Giratina. Arceus and Darkrai are events! I doubt they would be catchable. Giratina is so... unexplained. You go through Turnback Cave and find him. And yes, I am aware of the "other dimension" thingy. But can't they elaborate or summat?

[Archer]

Just because Giratina was not in the Sinnoh Dex for Diamond and Pearl, this does not necessarily mean it can't be in the Third Game's Dex.
Basically, the Sinnoh Dex only included anything that was relevant Pre-Elite Four.
If I recall correctly, Rayquaza was obtainable only after one had defeated the Elite-Four. But on Emerald, it had a Storyline and was also available before the Elite Four.
You cannot completely rule out a possibility based on a pretty weak assumption.

So, I think it will be: Giratina - Opal

[Nuke]

What exactly is an aquamarine?

Sounds like a pokemon attack not a gem.

[Varenox]

I know the game is called Topaz for a fact and im pretty sure Gritana is the main focus. Don't argue with me about the name. I ahve my sources and they are never wrong.

.

Now, a name would help, they've already used Diamond and Pearl, so it has to be a gem... A gem to go with Mesprit, I was think quartzite, the pink sort of stone.

Conclusion: Game name - Pokemon Quartzite.

Just logic, really.
They already used Quartz. I just got one on Ebay. It was never released in the U.S. but this guy got his hands on on, hacked the code, and copied it.

[Supreme Dirt]

It might be Mesprit. I figure Pokemon Amethyst will be the next one.

I know the game is called Topaz for a fact and im pretty sure Gritana is the main focus. Don't argue with me about the name. I ahve my sources and they are never wrong.


They already used Quartz. I just got one on Ebay. It was never released in the U.S. but this guy got his hands on on, hacked the code, and copied it.

Pokemon Quartz is a fake game.

[feeder18]

I voted Darkrai, after reading stuff on the internet as everything. But after reading this thread, the most sense-making arguement is Giratina and Opal. Im not saying every other option is wrong, but it makes the most sense to me.

But someone said about the gems on Dialga and Palkia, and the only other Pokémon legendaries in 4 Gen with gems on them, are Manaphy and Phione. Because Phione breeds from Manaphy and no other specific way of getting it without trading, i thinks it rules out phione. But Manahpy could still make sense. The version exclusive Pokémon doesnt have to be caught before the Elite 4. Rayquaza in emerald, although you do see him beforehand, you cannot catch him until afterwards. And in Gold/Silver. If i remember rightly, one of the birds cant be caught till you enter Kanto aswell, not 100% sure, but it rings a bell, that old geezer in Pewter? Gives you one of the wings (Silver/Rainbow)?

It not that difficult to just change the story line abit, to allow you to catch Manaphy in the third D/P, and then this would be the most logical way of getting him in D/P.

[Zellbeast]

Maybe It's Berlitz.... I got this from Serebii.net do to the third trainer in the Manga being Berlitz. This is just a guess do to the third person in the manga often times is the third game... This is only a 50%. Edit: I just read into it and that is not her first name meaning her real first name is the third games name.

[Yoshiko75]

Anyone ever notice how Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina all have the same eyes? No other Pokémon has eyes like theirs. Hmmmm...perhaps this is evidence to Giratina being the mascot. I also read somewhere that Giratina has connections with opals, so maybe the game would be named "Pokémon Opal".

[mad567]

what if the main pokemon was not from shinou pokedex what about the old pokemon like celebi

[Yoshiko75]

what if the main pokemon was not from shinou pokedex what about the old pokemon like celebi

I highly doubt that would happen. Normally, the Pokémon shown on the cover of a Pokémon game is used to promote the region it is from. Because Celebi is from Johto, it would make no sense for it to be the "third Pokémon" of a Sinnoh game.

[Zellbeast]

Anyone ever notice how Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina all have the same eyes? No other Pokémon has eyes like theirs. Hmmmm...perhaps this is evidence to Giratina being the mascot. I also read somewhere that Giratina has connections with opals, so maybe the game would be named "Pokémon Opal".
True the eyes are very close... It probably is Giratina. Maybe Pokemon Opal, there is 50/50 chance. Well thats it. *vanishis in to another world* Why am I on mars?

[feeder18]

This page (http://www.pokemontrash.com/cosmogonie.php) appears to show trio of the 'Pokémon Universe'. It is in French, i think, and thats not my strong point, but it appears to compare Groudon to Kyogre, and those both to Rayquaza, who are obviously the Hoenn mascots. Lower down, it compares Dialga to Palkia, and then these inturn to Giratina. It also appears to refer to Opal (shown as Opale) related to Diamond and Pearl (Diamant, Perle). Although, lower down, another picture compares these two Gen 4 mascots to Arceus, a 'Galaxy' diagram has been constructed, apparently showing legendary Pokémon's relationships in Hoenn and Sinnoh, with, yet again, Giratina on the same scale as Dialga and Palkia. Arceus is, however, on the same ring as Mew, and the 'Primive' (not sure what that means, looks French after all) egg of the trio, Azelf, Uxie and Mesprit.

More proof for Giratina, and Opal as the game, then?

[Zellbeast]

Maybe......................

[joeyfuse174]

this gen makes it difficult because of all the legends but since darkrai had a movie the should give him the third game

[Gamewhale]

I say Giratina. Why? Because it's part dragon type, like the other two, it has it's own "jewel," like the other two, and it has a trio counter part (Uxie), like the other two (Azelf for Dialga and Mesprit for Palkia). And I think the name of the game will be Girasol. :)

[blubergate]

Lets compare Emerald to Opal/Platinum/whatever

Emerald Whatever
Kyogre and Groudon Dialaga and Palkia?
catch rayaquaze before e4 Giratina befor e4?
slight changes to the 1st 2 slight changes to the 1st 2?

If there is a third game it's not hard to see what will happen

*note* look what is on the edges of giratinas wings...SOME SORT OF STONE!!!

[menace64]

I didn't read through all five pages, but I think Pokemon: Obsidian would fit perfectly.

[gotron228]

I think mespirit shoudl be the legendary for the 3rd game seeing suicunewasnt importent and they made crystal but the real reason mespirit should be becuase it's the pokemon that had a bond with you if anyone remembers

[Kylo]

I think it should be called Pokemon Jet Version. A jet is a black gem, and then Darkrai would fit that very well. Besides, he's the coolest legendary anyway.

[Dark Jay]

Pokemon Onyx with Lucario.

However that's only because Lucario is likely to feature as a mascot. I would love to have Pokemon Aquamarine with Manaphy. :)

[Arrmegedden]

Totally giratina because he is the third dragon of diamond and pearl. and hes the coolest pokemon ever.

[Guardian Soul]

All signs point to Giratina being the third mascot, with Opal pretty much being It's name.

Reasons:

-Giratina is a Dragon and fits in with Palkia and Dialga this way
-Giratina's wings have designs on them which resembles girasol opals
-Comes from another dimension, just like Palkia and Dialga
-Giratina's name is derived from girasol, an opal
-Nintendo copyrighted Pokémon Opal
-Nintendo also copyrighted Topaz, but I doubt they'd be stupid enough to go "HEY WE HAVE A LEGENDARY THAT FITS IN WITH OPAL SO WELL WHICH IS BASICALLY BASED OFF OF AN OPAL BUT HOWS ABOUT WE CALL IT TOPAZ HAHA!" I think the only way they'd use Topaz is if you get two more games instead of one
-Giratina's face is similair to Dialga and Palkia's
-On the movie poster it definately looks like Giratina is the third

I mean come on, look at all of this information, It's quite obvious that it will be Giratina and that the next game will be Opal Version. And people shouldn't say that just because he wasn't in the Sinnoh dex, he shouldn't be the third. It actually gives him more reason to be the third mascot because he wasn't relevant in the first game.

[Mitchman]

Its grantina as the mascot.
Its opal for the gem/name.
Its over everyone knows thats it. Oh and this won't be released until the remakes for G/S are out

[Classic-red]

its grantina as mascot...

[Nuke]

And we'll be waiting until next year at least to get it.

[Mitchman]

After a G/S remake don't forget

[feeder18]

After a G/S remake don't forget

Who says there is a G/S remake? There wont be one, likely because you can get every Johto Pokémon in R/S/E/FR/LG by catching and trading (except Celebi), and the Sevii Islands were put into the Kanto region to 'replace' Johto, and the music on the islands is enough proof.

And with Pal Park in D/P, theres no need for extra remakes just to trade on DS. So, there will be no G/S (or Crystal) remake on GBA, DS or anything.

[Mitchman]

Good point but still it is happening and we all know that. GSC was there best seller and will be again with DS functions> This is a thread for the 3rd DP game so if you don't believe it or think that it can't happen go-just go-to the thread for it you will see that it is a major thingthat will happen.

[♥vampy©valentine♥]

there is data in the game for a pokemon origin to be johto and there are many mentions of johto... and the anime also hints to it in one episodeReiji (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Reiji)'s badges are shown to the camera, scrolling across from Kanto (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Kanto) to Hoenn (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Hoenn) to Sinnoh (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sinnoh) to johto thi corsponds to the newer games fire red & leaf green then emerald thee diamond and pearl and then ???? the next game might not be a remake of gold and sliver but it is most likely set in johto


i want pokemon helotrope (also known as bloodstone ^_^)

[feeder18]

Good point but still it is happening and we all know that. GSC was there best seller and will be again with DS functions> This is a thread for the 3rd DP game so if you don't believe it or think that it can't happen go-just go-to the thread for it you will see that it is a major thingthat will happen.

Look. Im not being funny or anything. But this thread is for the 3rd D/P game. If there is a Johto-based game, not neccessarily a G/S remake, then this WONT class as a 3rd D/P. It would be a totally different game, like FireRed/LeafGreen are to Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald. Yes, they can trade and everything, but as they are in different worlds, the Kanto games arent classed as the 4th and 5th games are they? No offence, but go to the thread YOU mentioned if you want to talk about the possibility of a G/S remake. This ones for suggestions on a Sinnoh region 3rd game, 3RD being the the same region, like Yellow is to R/B, Crystal is to G/S and Emerald is to R/S.

[Mitchman]

exactly why I said that.
Anyway I still say it is opal

[Ashy Larry]

Same with Ruby and others

[Artificial-Insanity]

I just remembered...

Dailga & Palkia are found at the Spear Pillar... Arceus is found in the Hall of Origin, right above the Spear Pillar...

they are all "Gods" right?

[Darkrai Lv.1000]

I think it's going to be called Opal or Girasol. Giratina is the 3rd legendary dragon and represents death, so being the 3rd legendary dragon, it should be on the next game cover. Look at the eyes. it's the same as Dialga's and Palkia's! And all three legendary dragons come from a different dimension(Giratina comes from a world on the reverse side of ours). Plus look at its wings; Giratina's name is created from Girasol, a type of opal gem, the type on its wings, right? Diamond, Pearl, and Opal are all gems and Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina are the 3 legendary dragons representing time, space, and death. So the next one has to be called Opal or Girasol.
although it could be Arceus cuz all three of them can be found at the Spear Pillar. but it also couldn't be cuz Arceus wasn't even revealed yet. we shouldn't even know about it.
my best guess is Giratina with the name Pokémon Opal Version or Girasol Version. if it isn't, i'm going to hit my head on my comp when it comes out. :P

[hothead]

isnt it going to be called dusk gold and dusk silver

[Always and Never]

I vouch for opal, of course. Giratine is da bomb.

[Toblerone]

Opal seems very probable. Even though i don't know what it would contain that Diamond and Pearl hasn't. Could it be an alternate storyline maybe?

But then again the three legendaries of the lake form that triangle... could they be related in some way to Palkia and Dialga?

Size different also a factor. Giratina, Palkia and Dialga and around the same size, whilst Mesprit, Uxie and Azelf are kinda small.

Also, think about this: Nintendo might've put giratina in to arouse suspicions of Opal. Giratina could be a "decoy" so everyone is waiting for Opal and then BAM! Surprise...

EDIT: I didn't notice that darkcookie... interesting, very. Mesprit, just, doesnt fit in, does it?

[Mitchman]

Also tolberone ther is another fact that nobody doesn't wantot build on.
Dialga- Dragon/steel controls time
Palkia- Dragon/water controls space
Girantina- Dragon/Ghost is from anoter dimension
Time/Space/Dimensions fit perfectly don't they now?

[Toblerone]

I think it's going to be called Opal or Girasol. Giratina is the 3rd legendary dragon and represents death, so being the 3rd legendary dragon, it should be on the next game cover. Look at the eyes. it's the same as Dialga's and Palkia's! And all three legendary dragons come from a different dimension(Giratina comes from a world on the reverse side of ours). Plus look at its wings; Giratina's name is created from Girasol, a type of opal gem, the type on its wings, right? Diamond, Pearl, and Opal are all gems and Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina are the 3 legendary dragons representing time, space, and death. So the next one has to be called Opal or Girasol.
although it could be Arceus cuz all three of them can be found at the Spear Pillar. but it also couldn't be cuz Arceus wasn't even revealed yet. we shouldn't even know about it.
my best guess is Giratina with the name Pokémon Opal Version or Girasol Version. if it isn't, i'm going to hit my head on my comp when it comes out. :P

If they could choose either girasol or opal, they would definetely pick opal, as younger players dont have a clue what girasol is.

EDIT: Yet again, another point. Mesprit is a pokemon of emotion, whilst Azelf is a pokemon of willpower, and Uxie is a pokemon of knowledge. doesn't really correspond to time and space, does it now?

[EviladeBlazingDemon]

Yeah, i think opal, but they're running out of hard, shiny things that people of actually heard of. So what are they gonna do after diamond, pearl and the sequal to that. Pokemon Bread and Butter? Ooh ooh, and the stunning 3rd game to that: Pokemon Sandwich version. Anyway, i think you'll probably be able to go back to johto jike you could go to kanto in gold, silver and crystal. They wouldnt have put Jasmine in it just for waterfall, would they?

[zilla103]

I beleave when or if they make a third version I thienk giratina would deffinitly be the mascot because the other legendarys just dont seem right for mascot and it is a dragon type like Dialga and palkia.

[Nuke]

So it looks like a complete surprise.

Pokemon Platinum! Giratina the mascot as many thought though.

Wondering if it'll be renamed.

[Forgotten Memory]

Yes, its been confirmed by CoroCoro magazine to be called "Pokemon Platinum" though, i was caught by surprise, as I never though Giratina would represent a Platinum-ish color... 0.0

[Gummy]

I was really surprised that they had decided to go back to metals. It completely random, as Giratina doesn't really have any platinum on him.

[Darkrai Lv.1000]

that's exactly what i was thinking Gummy!
Nintendo has got to be kidding about the name. they should've thought of that in the time of Gold/Silver/Crystal(which i hope they make remakes of...). but, i emailed Nintendo and asked them if the name would really be Pokémon Platinum and if all the features were actually in it. Nintendo said, and i quote(literally):

"Pokémon Platinum is not scheduled for release anytime soon."

got it? they actually said Platinum. nothing about name changes. i guess the name and the pics really were true. well, time to hit my head on my comp until it comes out. :P :P :P
i wish they would rename it though. Platinum's a metal right? i don't think Giratina has any trace of Platinum on it. unless his origin form does, or because of his color. Platinum's gray-ish, isn't it?

[Pokemon Professor]

Platinum... The name is okay but I would have preferred something else. Giratina and Platinum don't mix though. The name was qute unexpected though however we all knew the 'mascot' straight off the mark.

Damn it... I revived a dead topic, didn't I?

[Hiroshi Sotomura]

Yup, you did. Would've been a better idea to delete your post, but that's probably better fixed by just having me close the thread.