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Squeenix
December 23rd, 2007, 07:06 PM
This time I made the smart move to MAKE the team but not get in the
game first

Physical Sweeper
Salamence @ Choice Band
Jolly
Ability; Intimidate
EV: 252 atk, 252 spd, 6 hp
- Dragon Claw
- EQ
- Flamethrower
- Rock Slide

Special Sweeper
Gengar @ Quick Claw
Timid
Ability: Levitate
EV's: 252 spd 252 sp. atk 6 hp
- Explosion
- Energy Ball
- Destiny Bond
- Dark Pulse

Special Wall
Blissey @ Leftovers
Calm
Ability: Serene Grace
EV: 252hp 252sp def 6 def
- Softboiled
- Aromatherapy
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss

Physical Tank/Spiker

Skarmory @ Leftovers

Ability: Keen Eye
Impish
EV's: 252hp 64 atk 192 def
- Drill Peck
- Spikes
- Whirlwind
- Subsitute

Infernape @ Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
Jolly
Ev's: 6hp, 252atk, 252 spd
- Swords Dance
- Flare Blitz
- Close Combat
- Thunderpunch


Heracross @ Life Orb
Ability: Swarm
EV: 252 atk 252 spd 6 hp
- Close Combat
- Megahorn
- Aerial Ace
- EQ


What do you think? Do you have any subsitutes for some of the pokemon
if there crappy tanks or something?

ABYAY
December 23rd, 2007, 07:25 PM
Well, first thing noted, Quick Claw is considered Hax item due to the fact that it relies on luck to work. Wise Glasses or Focus Sash is much better anyway because Gengar's already quick enough.

Why Flamethrower on Jolly Salamence? I know you wanna counter the physical sponges commonly used, but... Jolly Flamethrower + Choice Band = Makes absolutely no sense. If anything as a fire move, go Fire Fang, or go Dragon Dance holding Expert Belt or something.

NEVER EVER EVER GO NO DEFENSE ON BLISSEY! You need defense because it has enough sp. def to help itself.

Shadow Ball covers Dark Pulse, also adding extra damage. Exploson isn't going to do too much with Gengar without Hasty nature or something along those lines. Focus Blast is much better. Although somewhat innaccurate, it covers Dark types, and much more.

Sub on Skarm is unique to me, but not a drawback. That can work.

Depending on whether you hate other Heracrosses more or Gyarados, Stone Edge can work with your own Heracross.

The above changes will help majorly. I'm not an Explosion user with anything other than Metagross as of now. I don't know how it impacts with other pokemon.

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
December 23rd, 2007, 07:26 PM
EQ is a waste on Heracross, replace with pursuit or night slash. Stone edge over AA to hit flyers. I strongly urge you to run a choice band on it and life orb on Mence.

Squeenix
December 23rd, 2007, 07:31 PM
ok but my gengars suicidal because it uses destiny bond then explosion on tanks or walls

El Gofre
December 23rd, 2007, 08:36 PM
ok but my gengars suicidal because it uses destiny bond then explosion on tanks or walls

If this is how you plan on using you're gengar you really need a 2nd special attacker. Plus if you're running destiny bond mean look is a far better option to explosion.

shedinjask
December 23rd, 2007, 08:48 PM
Destiny Bond won't work with Explosion. Keep DB if you must, but get rid of Explosion.

Squeenix
December 24th, 2007, 02:57 AM
but should i have more special tanks, because i noticed in battle a starmie
was destroying my team entirely

Eos Aduro
December 24th, 2007, 03:10 AM
AHA! Bolt Beam weak, especially with Surf attached. Blissey should be able to take down Starmie though.

Archer
December 24th, 2007, 04:10 AM
Regice Owns Starmie if it has TBolt. I suggest removing a Physical Sweeper. Probably Hera, as Mence leads are usually Specsmence, so theres some suprise factor. (EQ on Heatran XD)
Mence - Life Orb. Hasty/Naive
Gengar - Specs, Tbolt, Shadow Ball, Focus Blast, HP Ice/Energy Ball.

Squeenix
December 24th, 2007, 02:21 PM
Also do you think I should replace my gengar with another special sweeper gengar isn't too good of one even if I get rid of Explosion

And I lol'd when my blissey 1hkoed a sweeper

shedinjask
December 24th, 2007, 02:23 PM
Gengar is a great special sweeper.

Gengar @ Life Orb/Wide Lens
252 SAttk/252 Spd/4 HP -- Timid
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Hypnosis/HP Ice/Energy Ball
Thunderbolt