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Towlie
December 24th, 2007, 12:20 AM
Yes, this is copied from my old thread, but it's been changed a bit. Recently, I've been trying to add a Breloom to this team, but really couldn't find room for it. Now, it's changed to a Machamp that I've been wanting to add. I decided taking out Tyranitar would be the best way to go, but both have their flaws. Should I take out something else for Machamp?

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Staraptor (♂) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 156 HP/96 Atk/108 Def/148 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Brave Bird
- Featherdance
- Roost

I do not take credit for this set. I saw the idea from someone and immediately loved the idea. I modified the EVs to my own liking, and this thing is amazing. Gyara leads are so common now, and this thing just stops them. Featherdance and -3 Atk for Gyara. Stone Edge will normally hit Staraptor for 30%~ normally. Gyara will be forced to switch after that, while I U-Turn to a favorable matchup.

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Starmie @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 192 HP/220 Spd/96 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Surf
- Rapid Spin
- Recover
- Thunderbolt

Spinner. Nothing much to be said.

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Blissey (♀) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Sing

I can't say I like Blissey, in fact I hate it with a passion, but I needed a special wall. So I put on probably the most annoying pokemon in the game.

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Celebi @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP/16 Def/40 Spd/56 SAtk/144 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Grass Knot
- U-turn
- Leech Seed
- Psychic

Forces switches with Leech Seed. Works nice with Staraptor. Reflect is just a filler and might be replaced with Recover, maybe even Psychic.

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Hippowdon (♀) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 Def
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang
- Stealth Rock
- Slack Off

Very reliable SRer. Hits stuff quite hard as well.

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Machamp (♂) @ Leftovers
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Def
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dynamicpunch
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Stone Edge

Really fun pokemon to use. Comes in on Blissey, and hits their Switch hard with Dynamicpunch, or if I know their team, sometimes Stone Edge. Sleep Talking turns these 5 PP moves into moves that can be used multiple times without worrying too much about PP.


And of course, the Tyranitar that I swapped out for this Machamp:

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Tyranitar (♀) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP/200 SAtk/56 SDef
Lonely nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Ice Beam
- Flamethrower
- Substitute
- Stone Edge
This Tyranitar is mainly a late game sweeper. Suprises Forrtress with Flamethrower, and Gliscor with Ice Beam. Scares off Cresselia, in thought that I'm going to Crunch it, in which I'll just use the turrn to set up a Substitute and hit his switch hard.

shedinjask
December 24th, 2007, 01:09 AM
If you hate Blissey that much, try another special wall. Articuno works really well if you have a spinner. Milotic and Regice are nice too.

All around good team. Balanced and stuff. Love the Staraptor.

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
December 24th, 2007, 01:10 AM
I know 3 of your pokemon absorb status like candy, but burn and crap really hurts Machamp and I'd put heal bell on Celebi, as reflect is just a filler anyways.

shedinjask
December 24th, 2007, 01:15 AM
Machamp is Restalk though. As a whole this team really isn't status weak. Hippo can also absorb the Thunder Waving.

This reminds me of my mono Grass team. Three Natural Cures, one Rester and a Toxic Orb Breloom.

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
December 24th, 2007, 01:20 AM
Never mind then :P

But this team has some boltbeam issues, but is otherwise pretty solid.

Towlie
December 24th, 2007, 01:29 AM
Yea, not that I hate Blissey, just it makes games really long. I had a 15-20 minute long game with Mooks because of WishBliss xD. Plus, that text is just copy pasted. My hatred for Blissey has subsided quite a bit.

I wasn't planning on mass natural curers, but when the team came together, it just happened that way. Lol.

Boltbeam is a bit of an annoyance, but I can beat it with Blissey and prediction. The one thing this team hates though, is Jolteon leads. And by the way anti, Reflect isn't on Celebi anymore. Just old text. Sorry. xD

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
December 24th, 2007, 02:33 AM
I was wondering about that :P

You could always lead with Hippo to threaten it right away.

Eos Aduro
December 24th, 2007, 02:37 AM
Hippo leads are ebil. EBIL EBIL EBIL! But that Staraptor is too good a lead to not be used.

Towlie
December 24th, 2007, 03:00 AM
Yes. Staraptor is such an amazing lead. Only Crobats and Jolteon hurt it.

Plus, I don't like sandstorm going up right away. Everyone has anti Hippo/Gyara leads now. Lol.

I'm almost top 100 now with this team. I'm ranked 1477 right now.