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Samson
December 27th, 2007, 09:50 PM
lolteam. these are pokemon that i would never use and that completely disgust me, but because my ds broke, i've been exploring the possibilities (if we can call them that).

Delibird @ Focus Sash
Modest Nature
Ability: Vital Spirit
252 SP ATK/252 SPD/4 DEATH
-Ice Beam
-HP Fire
-Rapid Spin
-Counter

it seemed like a good idea... it's really the only poke on this team i have a smidgen of like for.

Mr. Mime @ Choice Scarf
Modest Nature
Ability: Filter
252 SP ATK/64 HP/192 SPD
-Psychic
-Shadow Ball
-Thunderbolt
-Encore

anything that can run scarf, take a special hit, use thunderbolt and encore is fine with me. it's just a shame it/he/she, w/e, looks hideous.

Pikachu @ Light Orb
Hardy/Naughty/Rash Nature
252 ATK/116 SPD/140 SP ATK
-Thunderbolt
-Surf/Grass Knot/HP Ice
-Brick Break
-Substitute

hi hurt. that light orb is serious business. likes BPed NPs.

Sableye @ Lum Berry
Impish/Adamant Nature
Ability: Keen Eye
252 HP/176 DEF/80 ATK
-Shadow Sneak
-Counter
-Taunt
-Knock Off/Recover/Focus Punch

hi random. i may replace this for a transform smeargle, who isn't as good at walling blissey but is much funner =D

Cloyster @ Choice Band/Leftovers
Adamant/Impish Nature
Ability: Shell Armor
224 HP/140 DEF/144 ATK
-Ice Shard
-Explosion
-Payback/Substitute
-Avalanche/Torment

the sub + torment combo is something i got from Mullac, which really could work. Heracross wouldn't like struggling itself to half health and reducing its def three stages where cloyster can KO with STAB ice shard.

Ambipom @ Chople Berry
Timid Nature
Ability: Technician
252 SPD/212 HP/44 SP ATK
-Swift
-Taunt/Shadow Ball
-Nasty Plot
-Baton Pass

helps pikachu be the camera whore that it is ^.^ can actually take hits quite well.

sims796
December 27th, 2007, 10:10 PM
Actually, my cousin wants to use Mr. Mime. It is a superb Sp.wall, with great SP.ATK, but it only needs more HP to be a true wall.

Wait, it hit me. Can yo use Gaurd Swap, then Baton Pass?

Samson
December 27th, 2007, 10:41 PM
you could, but it's quite pointless. guard/power swap exchange the boosts in those stats, not the actual stats. so using gaurd swap on something with 3 Stockpiles would result in stealing their +3 boosts in def and sp def.

Syaoran
December 27th, 2007, 11:07 PM
Trick / Transform / Spore / Scarf Smeargle is really fun to use! I tricked a starter Bronzong and got his Lum Berry when he Hypnotized me. rofl. Then got a free spore. :]

I rly like that Cloyster. I doubt how pika is taking the nasty plots without a sub passed for a safe switch. Ambipom is doing ridiculous damage even after a Nasty Plot, 60 base really is meh. Why the Fake Out hate =[


DDTAR SCREWS YOU.

Samson
December 27th, 2007, 11:16 PM
what does your smeargle have as an item? some guy on smogon had one with leftovers that seemed to do very well. trick isn't my thing anyway. probably give it thunderwave to paralyze switch-ins.

but yeah, i considered sub, but ambipom needs taunt regardless. i couldn't drop swift either. so yeah...

and DDTAR gets encored like none other.

Syaoran
December 27th, 2007, 11:19 PM
DD, you switch to.. Mr.Mime? Crunch. encored. How are you stopping it now?

Samson
December 27th, 2007, 11:27 PM
sableye who counters and dies next turn.

then cloyster who tries to KO with 3-4 ice shard, or 1-2 avalanche.

i dunno lol

Syaoran
December 27th, 2007, 11:33 PM
Delibird, Hustle, Brick Break. more threatening.

Samson
December 27th, 2007, 11:42 PM
i already thought about hustle. nah...

i gave it the set it has now because it counters a lot of popular starters. outruns beneficial 70 base which includes breloom. hits forretress/scizor hard with HP Fire and counters unsuspecting weaviles/garchomps with counter, and hits salamence hard. the rapid spin is just there so that once it uses hp fire on forretress, forretress barely survives and switches out, giving me a free turn to blow his crap away.

worth the try.

EDIT: i'm changing delibird to modest so it can OHKO forretress and do more damage pokes with fire weaknesses.