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[Dark_Azelf]

Yeah

Zapdos@leftovers
252 HP / 220 Sp.Def / 36 Speed
Calm Nature
- Rest
- Hidden power ice / Hidden power Grass.
- Thunderbolt
- Sleep Talk.

Status Absorb-ness.


Vaporeon@Leftovers
Bold Nature
188 HP / 252 Def / 68 Sp.Def
- Substitute
- Surf
- Wish
- Baton Pass

Leik my fav pokemanz ever !!!oneone!!111.Wish Pass allows my Donphan to keep healthy aswell as Passes bulky subs to Chomp and Heatran.

Garchomp@Leftovers
252 ATT / 16 HP / 240 SPEED
Jolly nature
- Fire Fang / Fire Blast
- Earthquake
- Swords Dance
- Dragon Claw.

I really dont like scarf chomp, this receives subs.


Donphan@Leftovers
Impish Nature
252 HP / 196 Def / 60 ATT
- Ice Shard
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Stealth Rock

It doesnt need a recovery move due to my overkill and abuse of Wish. I dont really want to use this but if i use Skarm i die to vire so yeah.

Blissey@leftovers
Bold Nature
148 HP / 252 DEF / 104 SP.ATT / 4 SP.DEF
- Ice Beam
-Thunder wave.
- Wish
- Protect

Wish Bliss. No s-toss due to my emerald being broke.


Heatran@Life Orb
252 SP.ATT / 200 SPEED / 58 HP
Timid Nature
- Fire Blast.
- Earth Power
- Metal Sound
- Dragon pulse

This also receives subs.

Just an idea i threw together.

Criticize it as much as you like and replace stuff.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Yeah


Zapdos@Choice Scarf
252 SP.ATT / 196 SPEED / 60 Att
<insert + Sp.Att - Defense or - sp.def Nature here>
- Drill peck ??
- Hidden power Ice / Hidden power Grass.
- Thunderbolt
- U-Turn

God knows !! Sort of scout lead thing with U-Turn......

It has a poor movepool.... Drill peck ohkos heracross and 2hko's Infernape!!

Currently soft reseting for good ivs nature and hidden power.

You forgot Cscarf Metagross counter :/ lol

Vaporeon@Leftovers
Bold Nature
188 HP / 252 Def / 68 Sp.A
- Substitute
- Surf
- Wish
- Baton Pass

Leik my fav pokemanz ever !!!oneone!!111. Sub - Wish Pass allows my Forretress to keep healthy aswell. Passes bulky subs.

Alright. Probably doesn't need any SAtk unless there's something you want to hit for a KO of some sort.

Garchomp@Life Orb
252 ATT / 16 HP / 240 SPEED
Jolly nature
- Fire Fang
- Earthquake
- Swords Dance
- Dragon Claw

I really dont like scarf chomp, this receives subs.

You forogt a moveslot :P I think you'll want dragon claw or even outrage.

Forretress@ leftovers
Relaxed Nature
252 HE / 196 / 60 ATT
- Gyro Ball
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes

It doesnt need a recovery move due to my overkill and abuse of Wish. I dont really want to use this but if i use Skarm i die to vire so yeah.

We both know Spikes is better. Uselefties, and also be sure to fire off a few EQs as maggy can't survive them on the switch-in.

Blissey@lefotvers
Bold Nature
148 HP / 252 DEF / 104 SP.ATT / 4 SP.DEF
- Ice Beam
- Aromatherapy
- Wish
- Protect

Wish Bliss. No s-toss due to my emerald being broke.

Seeing your team can't take status to save its life, you're going to want aromatherapy.

Heatran@Life Orb
252 SP.ATT / 200 SPEED / 58 HP
Timid Nature
- Flamethrower
- Earth Power
- Explosion
- Dragon pulse

This also receives subs.

And blows up behind them :P

Just an idea i threw together.

Criticize it as much as you like and replace stuff.

Yeah, edit in BOLD. This is the first team I've seen in awhile that heracross and Vire don't RIP apart. That's always good :P Team does has a few gengar problems worthy of note. But nothing bad, so yeah.

[Kayashi]

No Fire Blast on Garchomp? It kills off Skarmory and uber bug types like Caterpie >:

[Dark_Azelf]

Yeah, edit in BOLD. This is the first team I've seen in awhile that heracross and Vire don't RIP apart. That's always good :P Team does has a few gengar problems worthy of note. But nothing bad, so yeah.

Ive put in Donphan >> Forry i figured it does the same job.

Your right it cant absorb status, dam, oh well Aromatherapy is going on Bliss although I thought i could still cripple stuff with t-wave.

Yeah i hate Gengar, especially with Focus Sash *CoughNAMELESSCough*.

No Fire Blast on Garchomp? It kills off Skarmory and uber bug types like Caterpie >:

I could go Fire Blast, although Fire Fang does more to Bronzong and Heracross. Ill put Fire Blast as an option and see how it goes.


Caterpie 6-0's me lol

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

lol, the best gengar counters are the ones that 2HKO, like my scarf metagross and Articuno >:0

Now you have spikes over SR. Spikes are better, they inflict more damage, so consider putting Forry back in. though Phan probably works better with this team, so I guess it's fine.

But I'm a homer for spikes so I should shut up.

Looks pretty good though.

[Dark_Azelf]

lol, the best gengar counters are the ones that 2HKO, like my scarf metagross and Articuno >:0

Now you have spikes over SR. Spikes are better, they inflict more damage, so consider putting Forry back in. though Phan probably works better with this team, so I guess it's fine.

But I'm a homer for spikes so I should shut up.

Looks pretty good though.

I think SR would be better for this, because by the time ive set up Spikes ill then i get the Rapid Spinned away and as i have no Ghost, so it'll be a waste so ill try Phan and Steath Rock. Vaporeon Covers its Ice Weakness and lols at Weavile so it should be ok to wall. But usually yeah Spikes >> Stealth Rock.

Ughh its really gonna be a pain to Soft Reset for a Hidden power Zapdos with a good Nature and Ivs.

[Arcknight316]

If you really don't like Zapdos's movepool, consider Moltres. It's Air Slash hits harder than Zappy's Drill Peck.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

If you really don't like Zapdos's movepool, consider Moltres.

Moltres's movepool is no better. All these legendary trios have terrible movepools besides the ugly fairy things. Stupid Gamefreak >.>

Watch the ice beam weak. Fast pokemon like Weavile and their ice attacks will hurt, especially if Vappy or Heatran is out of the picture.

[Dark_Azelf]

Ive just noticed Blissey with Wish is an event therefore ill have to run Thunderwave and cant run Aromatheraphy.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Ive just noticed Blissey with Wish is an event therefore ill have to run Thunderwave and cant run Aromatheraphy.

With Bliss as your only status absorber, I'd throw in a resttalker for good measure. Ironically, Zapdos does that VERY well and outstalls the Queen herself, Blissey.

EDIT: with the right EVs of course

[flamehaze94]

Yeah, edit in BOLD. This is the first team I've seen in awhile that heracross and Vire don't RIP apart. That's always good Team does has a few gengar problems worthy of note. But nothing bad, so yeah.

Still pretty Hera and Vire weak irl. Zapdos still can't switch into Hera safely.

Donphan gets 2HKOed by Ice Punch by Vire.

[Dark_Azelf]

Still pretty Hera and Vire weak irl. Zapdos still can't switch into Hera safely.

Donphan gets 2HKOed by Ice Punch by Vire.


Well i got

Adamant 252 ATT Electivire@Life Orb

Does

Defender HP: 384
Damage: 152 - 179
Damage: 39.58% - 46.61%

On 252 HP / 196 DEF Impish.


Heracross is still a problem, thanks for bringing that up.

I could use Gliscor but that dies to Ice and i have enough of an Ice weakness....

[flamehaze94]

Well i got

Adamant 252 ATT Electivire@Life Orb

Does

Defender HP: 384
Damage: 152 - 179
Damage: 39.58% - 46.61%

On 252 HP / 196 DEF Impish.


Heracross is still a problem, thanks for bringing that up.

I could use Gliscor but that dies to Ice and i have enough of an Ice weakness....

oh,

Choice Band Vire ftw!


sorry, i messed up there.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

oh,

Choice Band Vire ftw!


sorry, i messed up there.

Specs Vire you mean :P lol jk

Nothing can switch into heracross safely (problem), but nothing quite like a sacrifice and then killing it. Definitely not the best way to kill something, but it works.

[Syaoran]

Metal Sound > Explosion on Life Orb Heatran. With Stealth Rock, you'll want to cause more switches, instead of blowing him up and not doing good damage at all with -Atk nature.

Vaporeon doesn't need those Sp.Atk EV's with only Surf, it is better off surviving more special hits or even maximizing HP.

Sticking Choice Scarf on a pokemon so bulky like Zapdos is something I consider quite disappointing. Zapdos will not live to its potential, literally... =[
Maybe consider Roost/HP ice/Thunderbolt/U-turn with a bulky spread, it works a lot better. T-bolt will 2HKO Infernape just like Drill Peck.

[Dark_Azelf]

Metal Sound > Explosion on Life Orb Heatran. With Stealth Rock, you'll want to cause more switches, instead of blowing him up and not doing good damage at all with -Atk nature.

Well Explosion is mainly there to waste Blissey and other sp.walls. But yeah i suppose Metal Sound does that aswell as in it causes switches and wastes blissey..

Vaporeon doesn't need those Sp.Atk EV's with only Surf, it is better off surviving more special hits or even maximizing HP.

Il consider that. I might put those evs in sp.def.

Sticking Choice Scarf on a pokemon so bulky like Zapdos is something I consider quite disappointing. Zapdos will not live to its potential, literally... =[
Maybe consider Roost/HP ice/Thunderbolt/U-turn with a bulky spread, it works a lot better. T-bolt will 2HKO Infernape just like Drill Peck.

Yeah im going to change its ev spread and nature and moveset to rest- talk.



Comments in bold and stuff.


Edit : Ran some calcs Fire Blast 2hkos Blissey after Metal sound, wow thats beastly.

Thanks Syaoran youve given me some good ideas.


Now i need a Heracross counter and my Zapdos set sorted out.