Simple Q&A Thread

[Britney Spears]

It was stated by the Site Administrators that we repost threads created by members no longer active in our particular forums:

This is a thread where you can ask any question that doesn't belong in it's own thread. For example IV/EV Questions, how does this attack work, etc.

Originally posted by Lord Mike.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Lord Mike is still around ya know :P

Anyways, I have a question (n00b question, score!) that I need answered. How much more exactly does pursuit do if a pokemon is switching out? I think double, but I've never really been sure and since I'm using a metagross with it I figure I'd ask.

Also, what in the world is toxicroak's typing? I couldn't find it anywhere ._.

[Britney Spears]

Toxicroak is Fighting/Poison Anti.

[evilcheese]

toxicroak is a poison and fighting and yes pursuit is doubled.

[sims796]

Hm. Sorry bout that.

But I have an interesting Q. I coulda SWORN that Steel was weak to Electric. Did they change this in 3rd gen?

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Hm. Sorry bout that.

But I have an interesting Q. I coulda SWORN that Steel was weak to Electric. Did they change this in 3rd gen?

I don't fully understand the question, but I DO know that in both 4th and 3rd gen electric does neutral damage to steel. I don't know about 2nd gen, if that's what you mean.

[sims796]

Yes, I mean 2nd gen.

I've been using T-Bolt against Metagross for ages, wondering why it's not an OHKO.

[ultranerd57]

Yanmega@ wiseglasses
EVs: 252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
Trait: Speed boost
Hasty
-Detect/ Protect
-Air slash
-Bug buzz
-Hypnosis

After one Protect would this outrun standard Mence, Weavile, and common leads?

[Tuna1]

Hi all, I have some questions regarding pokemon stats that I cannot seem to find on the net.

First of all, would it be better if i chapter a lvl 20 abra and have it evolve to allakhazam or a lvl 16 kadabra and have it evolve? would the abra miss 4 levels of superior stat growth or does it not matter when the pokemon evolves? Does capturing a pokemon at a higher level (considering that you leave room for the EV apply upon level up) effect stats?

Secondly, in combat, when pokemon work together to defeat an opponent and the exp splits, does the the same amount of EV go to each pokemon exp. share or does the predetermine amount of EV split evenly?

And finally... i forgot my third question... XD, but thanks in advance!

[ultranerd57]

Hi all, I have some questions regarding pokemon stats that I cannot seem to find on the net.

First of all, would it be better if i chapter a lvl 20 abra and have it evolve to allakhazam or a lvl 16 kadabra and have it evolve? would the abra miss 4 levels of superior stat growth or does it not matter when the pokemon evolves? Does capturing a pokemon at a higher level (considering that you leave room for the EV apply upon level up) effect stats?

Secondly, in combat, when pokemon work together to defeat an opponent and the exp splits, does the the same amount of EV go to each pokemon exp. share or does the predetermine amount of EV split evenly?

And finally... i forgot my third question... XD, but thanks in advance!

1. No it shouldn't.
2. Yes the one with exp.share gets 1.5 more

[ABYAY]

to answer Sim's question and seconding Anti; Steel has never been weak to Electric, but Steel attacks are not very effective vs. Electric.

To Ultranerd: Modest + Speed Boost with max speed EVs is efficient enough to be quicker than any other pokemon I believe. However, you'll need some really good speed IVs as well (like 20+ to ensure you're quicker.)

[Cascoon is EPIC]

what is focus blast? and it's effect

[Lady Nicole]

I have a question.

I'm trying to breed a Pokemon with an egg move but the male parent with the egg move is only on level 10. When I shove him in the daycare he's going to level up and forgot his egg move. Provided that the male parent hasn't come out of the daycare since it forgot the move, will the baby Pokemon still know the egg move even after the male parent has forgotten it?

I hope that made sense.

EDIT:
what is focus blast? and it's effect

Focus Blast is a fighting type Special move with base power 120, accuracy 70 and 5PP. There is a 10% chance that the foe's special defense is lowered when you use this move.

[Kayashi]

If you don't want its move to get deleted, then don't put the move you want to keep in the first slot. The move in the first slot is always lost.

[MOVE1][MOVE2]
[MOVE3][MOVE4]

always put the move you want to keep in the last slot. [four]

Edit: btw, if he gets to be lord mike, then I'm going to be king mike, or even lord of lord mike !!! =DDD

[Cascoon is EPIC]

yes becuase when i breeded my forretress he forgot all of his tm's at level 50 (when i took him out) and i hacted all the eggs and they all had the tm's

and then focus blast is too over powered don't you think?

[Kayashi]

Focus Blast's power is downed by a bad Accuracy and low pp. Almost all moves with 120 power have a mediocre accuracy stat. [fireblast, hydropump, blizzard, thunder, etc]

[PsyDragon Trainer]

I have a question.

I'm trying to breed a Pokemon with an egg move but the male parent with the egg move is only on level 10. When I shove him in the daycare he's going to level up and forgot his egg move. Provided that the male parent hasn't come out of the daycare since it forgot the move, will the baby Pokemon still know the egg move even after the male parent has forgotten it?

I hope that made sense.

EDIT:


Focus Blast is a fighting type Special move with base power 120, accuracy 70 and 5PP. There is a 10% chance that the foe's special defense is lowered when you use this move.

Lol, I get your question. As long as you do not remove the Pokémon from the daycare it will just pass down the moves it knows when you put the Pokémon in the daycare. Although, that's the case in 3rd Gen, I'm not sure about 4th Gen.

[Lady Nicole]

yes becuase when i breeded my forretress he forgot all of his tm's at level 50 (when i took him out) and i hacted all the eggs and they all had the tm's

and then focus blast is too over powered don't you think?

OK cool, thanks =D

Focus Blast's power is downed by a bad Accuracy and low pp. Almost all moves with 120 power have a mediocre accuracy stat. [fireblast, hydropump, blizzard, thunder, etc]

Yeah, which is why I hate them. I hate taking risks because every time I do something goes wrong. I'm not being pessimistic or anything but that is what all my evidence shows XD I never use Fire Blast unless it's absolutely neccessary cos most of the time it misses. Once it missed 2 out of 2 times in a battle I did. It screwed everything up and nearly caused me to lose >.<

Lol, I get your question. As long as you do not remove the Pokémon from the daycare it will just pass down the moves it knows when you put the Pokémon in the daycare. Although, that's the case in 3rd Gen, I'm not sure about 4th Gen.

Ahh OK then, thanks =D

If you don't want its move to get deleted, then don't put the move you want to keep in the first slot. The move in the first slot is always lost.

[MOVE1][MOVE2]
[MOVE3][MOVE4]

always put the move you want to keep in the last slot. [four]

Edit: btw, if he gets to be lord mike, then I'm going to be king mike, or even lord of lord mike !!! =DDD

I see what you mean, but I know it's going to be around lv.70 or 80 when I take it out XD It usually takes about that long to breed a decent Pokemon. That's why I don't have many Pokemon XD

[Cascoon is EPIC]

what iss the highest trainer title you can get in pbr9l ike can you get colluseum leader?)

[Kayashi]

This is for battling only, go ask that question in the PBR section. (http://www.pkmncommunity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=151)

[evilcheese]

what iss the highest trainer title you can get in pbr9l ike can you get colluseum leader?)
like azonic said it belongs in the pbr section. i think it is poketopia master i know i have since i beat set 8 of the masters battle.

[Cascoon is EPIC]

sorry , how can you get rid of destiny bond?

[evilcheese]

by swithching out. or if your opponent is faster then i dont think you can.

[Kayashi]

I think Destiny Bond goes first no matter what.

You can't get rid of Destiny Bond unless you switch out or use a non-damaging move [defensive move].

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

I think Destiny Bond goes first no matter what.

You can't get rid of Destiny Bond unless you switch out or use a non-damaging move [defensive move].

If destiny bond went first, then everybody would use wobby in ubers :P People say it is too slow to use destiny bond, showing that there isn't a speed priority there. Also, destiny bond lasts one turn I'm pretty sure.

[ABYAY]

here's ABY's tip on how to get around Destiny Bond.

First off, Destiny Bond is speed 0 priority, so speed's the main issue. That means Gengar could run Destiny Bond easily if desired.

So how do you get around this tricky move? Well, if they're faster and use it when they have little health, then there's nothing you can do if you're using an attacking move. However, status conditions like poison and burn do NOT set off Destiny Bond, so that's the first way. Sandstorm/Hail is the 2nd way. Lastly, your option is to just wait it out until they're out of Destiny Bonds. This can be hard due to trickery.

That's all I know about Destiny Bond; using weather and status gets around it.

[jc_rcw]

Wobby is still useful in ubers, you don't need destiny bond to use it right :/

also stop being scared of it, it only has 5 pp and you can set up easy on it.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Wobby is still useful in ubers, you don't need destiny bond to use it right :/

also stop being scared of it, it only has 5 pp and you can set up easy on it.

An example of this actually is when a froslass tried to destiny bond my Raikou, I just set up a sub and 6 CMs and swept the team. You just have to be ready if it happens to show up.

Nobody uses Wobbufet on uber teams anyways that I know of.

[evilcheese]

how is shaymin not a uber and darkrai is? they both have a base total of 600 and no 4x weaknesses

[Britney Spears]

Shaymin's move pool is terrible. And Darkrai has Bad Dreams + Dark Void.

[sims796]

Shaymin's move pool is terrible. And Darkrai has Bad Dreams + Dark Void.

I just have to emphasise how bad Shaymin's movepool really is. It's atrocious. Hard to look at.

It can serve a defensive role, that's it.

[evilcheese]

what are the max ivs for HP ice?

[Britney Spears]

Actually sims Shaymin has JUST enough for a Choice Specs:

Shaymin @ Choice Specs
Nature: Modest
Trait: Natural Cure
EV Spread: ---

Seed Flare
Hidden Power [Ice / Fire / Ground]
Psychic
Rest

Psychic helps to counter Heracross who like to switch in on Shaymin. Plus it doesn't have much else in it's move pool. Rest fits well with Natural Cure as you'll be switching out a lot anyway. Hidden Power is for coverage. Seed Flare is a good, powerful move unique to Shaymin. Can be replaced with Grass Knot or Energy Ball if you want.

[sims796]

Actually sims Shaymin has JUST enough for a Choice Specs:

Shaymin @ Choice Specs
Nature: Modest
Trait: Natural Cure
EV Spread: ---

Seed Flare
Hidden Power [Ice / Fire / Ground]
Psychic
Rest

Psychic helps to counter Heracross who like to switch in on Shaymin. Plus it doesn't have much else in it's move pool. Rest fits well with Natural Cure as you'll be switching out a lot anyway. Hidden Power is for coverage. Seed Flare is a good, powerful move unique to Shaymin. Can be replaced with Grass Knot or Energy Ball if you want.

That's scraping the bottom of the barrel, huh?

Nice set, although I think it *may* be able to pull off a mock SpecsMence sort of thing.

[Kayashi]

I like Choice Scarf on Shaymin. It caught me off guard once X.x and it wasn't pretty. Its nice for a surprise.

[ABYAY]

Question: After looking through Gastrodon's egg moves, it can get both Mirror Coat AND Counter. This leads to my question; Is a Gastrodon with Counter and Mirror Coat considered banned by chance?

[Jordan]

Question: After looking through Gastrodon's egg moves, it can get both Mirror Coat AND Counter. This leads to my question; Is a Gastrodon with Counter and Mirror Coat considered banned by chance?
Wobbuffet -> Gastrodon for both Counter and Mirror Coat.
what are the max ivs for HP ice?
Max out everything except for Attack and Defense.

Jordan.

[ABYAY]

I know how to get the moves, but I was wondering if such a set would be banned in competitive gameplay? It's a Wobb imitator.

[Cascoon is EPIC]

what is base power of hidden power?

[Dark_Azelf]

I know how to get the moves, but I was wondering if such a set would be banned in competitive gameplay? It's a Wobb imitator.

Nope seeing as Gastrodon doesnt have "Shadow Tag". So its legal.

what is base power of hidden power?

Its power can range from 30 - 70 depending on your pokemons Ivs.

[Kaphei]

I have a quick question, for a special sweeper Jolteon, what would be the best nature?

[Seifer]

I have a quick question, for a special sweeper Jolteon, what would be the best nature?

Jolteon isn't really the best pokémon for that job, as there aren't many Special moves to choose from. It's commonly used as a Batton Passer, and an effective one at that. However, if you really wish for it to be solely used for sweeping, Timid / Modest is what's recommended.

[Kaphei]

Thanks for the suggestion dude ;D

[Kayashi]

Its Timid always, it can outrun Weavile that way.

[ABYAY]

Thanks for that Azelf; I guess I have someone new to train ^^

Hidden Power varies in power from 30-70, as well as type, on a pokemon's IVs.

Always Timid on Jolteon, although its top isn't special sweeping.

[Harpuia]

where is a good place to ev train a special wall?

[evilcheese]

for HP gastrodons and bidoofs for SP. defense tentacruels and dewgongs

[Harpuia]

yeah i've already established that but i'm asking where?

[evilcheese]

dewgongs and tentacruels next to the fight area. bidoofs at the start of the journey above twinleaf. and gastrodons next to canalve

[Death_Mande]

Is it possible for a modest shiny alakazam with 31 IVs in sp.atk to have 409 EVs in sp.atk?

[ABYAY]

Is it possible for a modest shiny alakazam with 31 IVs in sp.atk to have 409 EVs in sp.atk?

It's impossible; the highest is 405 sp. atk for Modest Alakazam with max sp. atk EVs as well, and the max EVs for ANY stat is 255, preferred 252 because anything above 252 is just waste.

[evilcheese]

having 409 evs in one stat is impossible for any pokemon unless you hack

EDIT:
you beat me ABYAY

[Arcknight316]

Guys, I need a Sp Sweeper that is strong, but has EXCELLENT Speed. Well, I came up with this:

Sceptile @ Choice Specs
Timid
252 SATK/SPD, 6HP
Focus Blast
Energy Ball
Dragon Pulse
HP Rock

Suggestions?

[evilcheese]

starmie maybe. its pretty bulky plus really fast

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

starmie maybe. its pretty bulky plus really fast

Eh, starmie isn't very powerful (100 base SAtk) and isn't bulky with its horribly low HP and average defenses. It is quite fast though.

I've found that a fast and powerful sweeper is choice specs Gengar. the thing is a MONSTER.

[evilcheese]

lol i thought you used a baton pass from ambiopm

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

lol i thought you used a baton pass from ambiopm

Something tells me darkknight doesn't if power is the concern. My team doesn't worry about power, Ambipom takes care of that. But you can't say the same for people who don't have NP passers.

Choice Scarf anything with 120+ base SAtk and wtach the suffering. Ever Scarfed an alakazam? Think of it as a faster Scarfed Porygon Z, though it lacks double STAB. Speaking of which, Pory Z works wonders as well.

[Cascoon is EPIC]

what iv's are nessscary to get a base power of 70 fighting?

[ABYAY]

My team doesn't run a Baton Passer; usually each of my pokemon can help themselves in situations such as those. Curse Passers would hurt me though... that's about it.

And for HP fighting at 70 power... my god that's very technical and hard to answer. lol the only way I know how to do it is by jotting in random IVs into a calculator.

[BobberyJo]

If I rare candy trained a pokemon, then fed it all the vitamin things like Calcium, Zinc, etc

how much weaker would it be than a normal poke?

[evilcheese]

how do i calculate stuff like choice scarf?

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

how do i calculate stuff like choice scarf?

What do you mean? If you mean by the speed boost...I'll use an easy example. It multiplies the scarf user's speed by 1.5 (or 150%). So if I have a metagross with 200 speed and I give it a choice scarf, it will have 300 speed (to use a simple mathematical exmaple).

[evilcheese]

so then would rock polish be 2.5? because it raises by 2 stages

[CoolTrainerXtasy]

what pwns weavil?

is gyrados or weavile the better physical sweeper?

[Jordan]

What iv's are necessary to get a base power of 70 fighting?
HP-31
Attack - 31
Defense - 30
Speed - 30
Sp. Attack - 30
Sp. Defense - 30

Jordan.

[Lady Nicole]

I just got a new physical waller (not saying what it is =P) and it's quite a slow Pokemon: it has roughly the same base speed as Blissey. These are its IVs:

HP: 30
Atk: 29
Def: 30
SpAtk: 30
SpDef: 31
Spd: 15

Yeah, speed is the only disappointment :( Does it matter?

His parents are:

Male
HP: 28
Atk: 31
Def: 1
SpAtk: 30
SpDef: 31
Spd: 26

Female
HP: 21
Atk: 31
Def: 30
SpAtk: 30
SpDef: 22
Spd: 16

Yeah, I bred those two especially so that I could hope for one with 31 in Attack, but never mind...

Shall I try breeding the baby one with the female? (Sick, I know XD). Or is the one I've got OK?

EDIT: Oh yeah, I forgot to mention something which is probably obvious anyway, but you never know :paranoid: The EV spread will be:
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 Atk

EDIT II:
what pwns weavil?

is gyrados or weavile the better physical sweeper?

Lucario or Metagross with Bullet Punch. But you have to be careful with Weavile in case it's holding a Focus Sash. And it depends what the rest of your team is :\ I prefer Weavile myself =P

[Kirioroshi]

Is it a Probopass? or Relicanth?

[Death_Mande]

It's impossible; the highest is 405 sp. atk for Modest Alakazam with max sp. atk EVs as well, and the max EVs for ANY stat is 255, preferred 252 because anything above 252 is just waste.

Whoops i meant in Sp.Atk in the stats list not in the EV things.. Thanks!!

[PokeFanatic12698]

I breeded a few of my pokemon and i released them except for one. I did an IV battle to find out it's IV's and heres what i got-


Adamant #4 Charmander: 31 / 31 / 31 / 30 / 31 / 31

Hidden Power Type is 'Electric'. Hidden Power Power is 70.

I was surprised to see it's IVs as it was just a randomly bred pokemon. My question is, should i even bother to EV Train it?

Here's its moveset- (Might help a bit)

Dragon Dance
Dragon Claw
Belly Drum
Flamethrower

[Cascoon is EPIC]

Can someone please list all the pokemon that can rapid spin .

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Can someone please list all the pokemon that can rapid spin .

Blastoise
Armaldo
Claydol
Starmie
Forretress
Torkoal
Donphan
Cloyster

That's about all I can remember, but those are the good ones anyways.

[Cascoon is EPIC]

i didnt knwo armaldo can rapid spin , what dinosuar looking thing can spiin ???? i tohught nintendo was realsitc i mean acerus can only use all moves expect one that reuuire arms ????

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

i didnt knwo armaldo can rapid spin , what dinosuar looking thing can spiin ???? i tohught nintendo was realsitc i mean acerus can only use all moves expect one that reuuire arms ????

More spelling errors than my posts :0

Pokemon? Realistic? I don't think so. Besides, I can see how Armaldo can spin. But I'm not even going to get in to that...

[Shiraishi]

Lulz, Tentacruel can spin.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Lulz, Tentacruel can spin.

I knew I forgot one :(

I have a question of my own...what is a good Cleric NOt named Blissey, Miltank, Celebi, or Articuno?

[Shiraishi]

Uh..That XD Dragonite, Chimecho, Vileplume, Meganium..Bleh.

[Harpuia]

Blastoise
Armaldo
Claydol
Starmie
Forretress
Torkoal
Donphan
Cloyster

That's about all I can remember, but those are the good ones anyways.you forgot hitmontop........... :)

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

you forgot hitmontop........... :)

Hitmontop is a terrible spinner :( Good pokemon, terrible spinner to be honest. But yeah, thanks for pointing it out.

What is the fastest choice scarfer? I've always wondered lol

[Shiraishi]

You can put CS on pretty much anything, Anti. o-o But if you mean standard Scarfer, t would be Garchomp I guess @_@

[Harpuia]

Hitmontop is a terrible spinner :( Good pokemon, terrible spinner to be honest. But yeah, thanks for pointing it out.

What is the fastest choice scarfer? I've always wondered lolwhy? he has the same special defense of a snorelax

can any one tell me a place to ev train in attack the place and the pokemon please.

[Shiraishi]

Hitmontop invites ghosts to say hi, and he can't do anything back :/

[Harpuia]

well mine has pursuit you know for all those switchers.......

[Shiraishi]

Hitmontop isn't exactly a powerhouse >.>; Dusknoir would WoW and then laugh :/

[Harpuia]

no comment.....................

[PhoenixFlare]

Hitmontop isn't exactly a powerhouse >.>; Dusknoir would WoW and then laugh :/

Switch to Hera. Hera says hi. Uses Pursuit and makes Noir cry all the way back to the pokeball it came from. =P

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Switch to Hera. Hera says hi. Uses Pursuit and makes Noir cry all the way back to the pokeball it came from. =P

But then you can't spin the spikes away and they'll be ready for Hera next time :( Depends on who you're battling in some respects.

And Hera doesn't like taking fire punch from Noir itself.

no comment.....................

I think that if you just didn't post at all we'd have the common sense to figure that out :P

Technician pursuits can be quite power from hitmontop, but I doubt that the ghost is going to be switching out.

[Harpuia]

It doesn't matter if they switch,it will still hit them

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

It doesn't matter if they switch,it will still hit them

But not very hard. Hitmontop has 70 base Atk, that isn't a lot.

[Britney Spears]

Hitmontop's Base Attack is 95 Anti. Not 70.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Hitmontop's Base Attack is 95 Anti. Not 70.

Oh, was looking at base speed *slaps self*

But really, Gengar will 2HKO with Shadow Ball and Noir can WoW it and then take little from pursuit.

[El Gofre]

Hi all, just out of interest which poke has the highest base SpAtt? im pretty sure its att deoxys but i wanna make sure.

[shanecdavis]

Unless DP has screwed things up, it is Deoxys-F at 180.

[PhoenixFlare]

Is there a pokemon that doesn't get hurt by hail or sandstorm? Already have Mamoswine though.

[Shiraishi]

Mamoswine and Rayquaza is it >_>

[Harpuia]

Is there a pokemon that doesn't get hurt by hail or sandstorm? Already have Mamoswine though.and clefable with the right ability;)

[PhoenixFlare]

Mamoswine and Rayquaza is it >_>

Bummer. If you were wondering why I asked that its for having two choices of a 4v4 team on PBR so I thought of weather but maybe I should use rain and hail instead.

[El Gofre]

Hi all, heres an interesting one: If i activate trick room and bring in cursepert, will cursing effectively make it faster?

[Dark_Azelf]

Hi all, heres an interesting one: If i activate trick room and bring in cursepert, will cursing effectively make it faster?

Yes, luckycharms used to run a Cursepert under trick room conditions, ive heard its a beast.

But to answer your question, yes it makes it faster.

[Xairmo]

Is HP Psychic a good HP for Entei?

[shanecdavis]

No. Entei likes HP [Fighting] more.

[Samson]

Mamoswine and Rayquaza is it >_>

how about Golduck's ability Cloud Nine? you people need to stop overlooking that big, manly blue duck =)

[sims796]

Will Damp make the enemy Explosion still work, just not hurt him? Like Ghost types. You still kill yourself, but they aren't hurt.

[Samson]

no, it prevents them from using it.

btw, awesome on bellydrum poliwrath ;)

[sims796]

So with proper preidiction, it can be used very well, a Damp pokemon.

Like switching into a Forretress that is severely weakened.

On the offside, Disable seems like a very good move. Now that the accuracy has been significantly increased, it seems very useful when played right, like when used on a Scarffed Pokemon?

[Lumine]

Right I was being bored so I just bred some Adamant Magicrap and got one with these IVs

31 / 31 / 5 / 25 / 5 / 31

Can I make him as anything? Tauntdos? Sweeper?

[shanecdavis]

Depends on the nature, really. Looks like a solid Tauntdos to me.

[Lumine]

Depends on the nature, really. Looks like a solid Tauntdos to me.

Adamant Magicrap

Yeah I said it right there.

[shanecdavis]

................stupid eyes.

[Samson]

that doesn't look like a good Taunt dos at all... taunt dos needs to be bulky enough and though the max HP iv is good, its 5 def and sp def is very disappointing. the minimum for both should be at around 18-19 if you want it to take the kind of hits it usually can.

nonetheless, it's a good one. it could probably be a decent CB Gyara.

[ABYAY]

Question: Alright, even through the long hours of my game, I've never used my Draco Meteor tutor, so here's my question; can the Draco Meteor move only be used once for the whole game?

[sims796]

That's the beauty of the move-it cam be taught over & over. Even if the poke forgets the move, it can be re-taught. However, the pokemon must love you a lot. A small price to pay.

[ABYAY]

That's the beauty of the move-it cam be taught over & over. Even if the poke forgets the move, it can be re-taught. However, the pokemon must love you a lot. A small price to pay.

That I do easily (lots of breeding, so pop a Soothe Bell on and commence); Thanks sims. Of course, I need to think of a great dragon that defines the power of ultimate destruction. lol just to imitate the power of my main created character in my avvy.

[Dark_Azelf]

That I do easily (lots of breeding, so pop a Soothe Bell on and commence); Thanks sims. Of course, I need to think of a great dragon that defines the power of ultimate destruction. lol just to imitate the power of my main created character in my avvy.

Ultimate destruction dragon ? , That would be Choice Specs Salamence. That things Draco meteor is evil to say the least. Amazing when you use it yourself, but scary as hell when your going up against a foe one.

[ABYAY]

meh... what's the spread and common set for a SpecsMence? I remember someone using one against me, and although it hit hard, it didn't hit much.

[Dark_Azelf]

meh... what's the spread and common set for a SpecsMence? I remember someone using one against me, and although it hit hard, it didn't hit much.


Standard specs mence

Salamence@Choice Specs
Modest Nature
252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED /6 HP
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse
- Fire Blast
- Hydro pump

Metoer for inflicting major damage early on in battles and Pulse for late game sweeps. Fire Blast for steels etc. Hydro Pump is there for problem pokemon, Bastiodon, Probopass, heatran etc.


OR you can go with

"Funky Mence"

Salamence@Life Orb
120 Atk / 252 SpA / 136 Spe
Mild / Rash nature
~ Brick Break
~ Draco Meteor
~ Fire Blast / Flamethrower
~ Dragon Claw / Crunch / Roost

This also hits very hard Life Orb is the perfect item for it, its one of those "Funky Salamences" that has moves to hit specific stuff, Brick Break takes out snorlax and Blissey even T-Tar etc. Draco Meteor Destroys Donphan Hippowdon <insert Bulky Water / Ground type here>. Fire Blast or Flamethrower for Steels. Dragon Claw as its a reliable STAB move, Crunch hits Cressy and Dusknoir hard, Roost helps recover off residual damage.

[ABYAY]

I like the funky mix one better. T-Tar, Skarmory, Blissey, many are hit by this set. However, isn't it a lil slow? I don't know what the speed of it is, so I might need to be filled in on that.

[Shiraishi]

It's 270 speed to outrun Heracross, I don't like it either >_>

[Lady Nicole]

I have a noob question:

When I use a move like Dragon Dance, where the stat is raised one level, how much does it raise my stat by?

EDIT: This is the right place to post this right? o.O I mean, once I asked about Substitute...

[Shiraishi]

http://serebii.net/games/damage.shtml

Look towards the bottom of the page :x Dragon Dance raises your stat by 'one level' which is 150% of your stat.(In this case, your Atk and Spd would be raised by 150%. 8D)

[Lady Nicole]

http://serebii.net/games/damage.shtml

Look towards the bottom of the page :x Dragon Dance raises your stat by 'one level' which is 150% of your stat.(In this case, your Atk and Spd would be raised by 150%. 8D)

Oh wow, that was quick! =P Thanks, that's just what I wanted :)

[Harpuia]

can anyone tell me a good place,to Ev train someone in attack?

[Dark_Azelf]

I like the funky mix one better. T-Tar, Skarmory, Blissey, many are hit by this set. However, isn't it a lil slow? I don't know what the speed of it is, so I might need to be filled in on that.

Yeah, 270 speed, its enough for taking out and outspeeding the specific pokemon this set is meant for killing.



@Dunlop, Good places to ev train attack are the rainy route near Pastoria city (SP?) Bibarel and Kriketune give 2 Att EV points each.

Also near Oreburg town, just above it wild Machop give 1 ev point in attack.

[Kirioroshi]

How about supper rodding a Gyarados and Seaking at the pond above Jubilife.

[El Gofre]

The pond in your hometown is the best place for attack, 2EVs a poke and you never have to run.

[PhoenixFlare]

Where is the fastest place to level up? Like which trainer can I fight over and over with the vs seeker that gives good exp. Thanks.

This made me cry a little inside:

Seel
Thick Fat
Calm
IVs:
HP 25-29
ATK 6-9
DEF 22-26
SPATK 24-28
SPDEF 24-28
SPD 0

Would it be ok to still use it with no Hydration or should I give it an Everstone and breed again?

[sims796]

http://serebii.net/games/damage.shtml

Look towards the bottom of the page :x Dragon Dance raises your stat by 'one level' which is 150% of your stat.(In this case, your Atk and Spd would be raised by 150%. 8D)

That part is untrue. Yes, 150% of your stats, but it doesn't raise it by that much. It makes it that much.

Basically, you start off at 100%. After one DD, it's 150%. Therefore, it increases by 50%.

[Shiraishi]

Whoops. >.> Yeah..what he said >.>

[ABYAY]

I'll simplify it...or expand it, more. Let's say you have a Gyarados with 330 attack (just some exaggeration here), and speed of 240. When you use Dragon Dance, those 2 stats are multiplied by 1.5, so your attack becomes 495 and your speed is 360, which is +165 attack and +120 speed.

If you Dragon Dance again, your ORIGINAL speed and attack are doubled, or x2. Therefore, you'd have 660 attack and 480 speed.

[SSJ_Joe]

Hey guys, I was wondering something about Evs...like for example: Protein gives off 10 Evs, but for every 4 Evs or something like that you only get 1 Point or w/e...So does that mean you would get +10 Evs in attack, or +5 or w/e the # would be..Im a little bit confused as you can see lol....PM me with an answer please TY :)

[Ayano Katagiri]

Simple question...

Is Whirlwind meant to go second after the opponent?
I remembered it as that it doesn't... but for some reason, my Fearow always moves second when using it, regardless of who it's battling.

[Britney Spears]

Yes, Whirlwind/Roar always go second.

[Ayano Katagiri]

Oh okay, thanks for clearing that up. I was under the impression that only Roar moved second.

[Destiny100]

Help =(

If i use exp share and EV train does both the fighter/reciever both get the same amount of EV?
say a starley gives 1 speed point, this means that the fighter/reciever both gets 1 speed point?
So doesn't this mean I get twice the EV points? If so how come not many people do it?

[El Gofre]

Yes it does, and people do use it a lot. But when they get to a good level they fight with the poke they're training and attatch a macho item.

[Destiny100]

o i see, thanks alot.

for battle tower
i have

dragonite and umbreon or maybee houndoom one of which i'll use
what should be my last pokemon?
gyarodos or blissy? or isn't there any need for blissy in battle tower?


EDIT:
what does
OU, BL, UU mean?
i know UT means untouched,
what does the rest mean?

[Dark_Azelf]

o i see, thanks alot.

for battle tower
i have

dragonite and umbreon or maybee houndoom one of which i'll use
what should be my last pokemon?
gyarodos or blissy? or isn't there any need for blissy in battle tower?


EDIT:
what does
OU, BL, UU mean?
i know UT means untouched,
what does the rest mean?

OU = An Over used Pokem for example Blissey. The best pokemon with the best stats and movepools.

BL = A Borderline pokemon, its used but not overly for example Regice. These are pokemon quite usable, but they are not as good as OU pokemon.

UU = the pokemon isnt used often at all has worse stats and movepool than BL and OU pokemon for example Castform.

[Destiny100]

thank you =)

yet more questions here
cos i'm new to everything basically - except pokemon

whats the best nature for a dragonite? - dratini atm
I had down this

jolly nature - + spd, - spc att
likes to trash about
252 spc att
200 att(with scarf) / 140 att
58 spd (with scarf) / 118 spd

No idea what the Iv's are since it just hatched, I know it's minus spc att but I've been breeding for ages and i just can't be bothered anymore.
the moves will be

flamethrower
ice beam
ariael ace
dragon claw/ dragon pulse / dragon rage - bascially a good dragon move

thanks for your help

[Dark_Azelf]

thank you =)

yet more questions here
cos i'm new to everything basically - except pokemon

whats the best nature for a dragonite? - dratini atm
I had down this

jolly nature - + spd, - spc att
likes to trash about
252 spc att
200 att(with scarf) / 140 att
58 spd (with scarf) / 118 spd

No idea what the Iv's are since it just hatched, I know it's minus spc att but I've been breeding for ages and i just can't be bothered anymore.
the moves will be

flamethrower
ice beam
ariael ace
dragon claw/ dragon pulse / dragon rage - bascially a good dragon move

thanks for your help

Eww why are you using special attacks ans sp.att EVs on it when you have a - sp.att nature =/

Dragonite@Life Orb / Leftovers
Jolly Nature
252 ATT / 190 SPEED / 68 HP
- Dragon Claw / Outrage
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Fire Punch

[Destiny100]

just realised i could use att moves eg fire punch and earthquake
i was planning on using flamethrower/thunderbolt.
thanks

[Shiraishi]

Fire blast/Thunder would 2 Hit KO Skarm without lowering it's defenses o-o

[Destiny100]

Fire blast/Thunder would 2 Hit KO Skarm without lowering it's defenses o-o

you mean for dragonite? (had to fill 25 characters)

[Harpuia]

Fire blast/Thunder would 2 Hit KO Skarm without lowering it's defenses o-oit can also miss a lot......I have the worst luck with low accuracy moves

[Shiraishi]

Yes. o_o And 85% isn't exactly low accuracy >.>

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Yes. o_o And 85% isn't exactly low accuracy >.>

It is on Shoddy. Meteor Mash missing FIVE times in a row isn't exactly what I'd call accurate >.> (Then again, it also managed to live through 5 turns, which is impressive lol.)

[Harpuia]

Yes. o_o And 85% isn't exactly low accuracy >.>yes but like I said I have very bad luck with those kind of moves

[CoolTrainerXtasy]

I'll simplify it...or expand it, more. Let's say you have a Gyarados with 330 attack (just some exaggeration here), and speed of 240. When you use Dragon Dance, those 2 stats are multiplied by 1.5, so your attack becomes 495 and your speed is 360, which is +165 attack and +120 speed.

If you Dragon Dance again, your ORIGINAL speed and attack are doubled, or x2. Therefore, you'd have 660 attack and 480 speed.

wow didnt realise it was quite so powerful!

[Destiny100]

Which should i keep?

Dratini
Jolly nature
likes to thrash about
48 hp
34 att
25 def
23 sp. att
25 sp. def
27 speed

Dratini
Lonely nature
Impeduous and silly
47 hp
35 att
25 def
25 sp. att
27 sp. def
30 spd

On the Iv calculator it says i have 27 IV for lonely dratini
should i keep breeding the lonely nature one for 31 speed and 31 hp and 31 attack?

do i breed with ditto or what?
since it's kinda hard to get ditto with some decent stats =(

[SSJ_Joe]

Hey guys, I was wondering something about Evs...like for example: Protein gives off 10 Evs, but for every 4 Evs or something like that you only get 1 Point or w/e...So does that mean you would get +10 Evs in attack, or +5 or w/e the # would be..Im a little bit confused as you can see lol....PM me with an answer please TY

[Xairmo]

I hope this is the right place to ask this...
Someone told me that when you get a UT pokemon in trade that when you go to EV train it that the poke doesnt get the full EV points. is that true?

[Shiraishi]

UT means untouched correct? If it's untouched then it should have 0 EVs unless vitamins were used ._.

[Xairmo]

I know but the guy said it wouldnt get all the EVs when you go to train it. Im confused @.@
Im not sure I know how to phrase this question only being able to write

[Dark_Azelf]

I know but the guy said it wouldnt get all the EVs when you go to train it. Im confused @.@
Im not sure I know how to phrase this question only being able to write

It still ev's the same as pokemon you didnt get in a trade. Youll get all the evs still.

[PhoenixFlare]

What are the best Weavile counters?

[Angelic Diablo]

Focus Sash Infernape makes a good counter

[Dark_Azelf]

What are the best Weavile counters?

Forrtress, Skarmory,Reflect Metagross, Scizor , Hell just about any Steel type, Bulky Gyarados, Torkoal, Swampert, Regirock (it survives 3 brick breaks even with no def evs ), Heracoss (If Weaviles not packing Aerial ace), there are quite a few.

[Angelic Diablo]

What is a good support moveset for a Claydol?

I also require the EVs and Moveset for a Miltank that uses Heal Bell.

[Dark_Azelf]

What is a good support moveset for a Claydol?

I also require the EVs and Moveset for a Miltank that uses Heal Bell.

This is a nice set for Claydol

Special

Cloydal@Leftovers
Bold Nature
252 HP / 152 DEF / 96 SP.ATT / 52 SP.DEF
- Ice Beam / Psychic
- Earth Power
- Rapid Spin
- Stealth Rock / Rest / Reflect / Light Screen /Toxic / Ice Beam / Psychic.

Earth power for Stab.

Psychic deals with Gengar and gets STAB, Ice Beam deals with dragons and ground types who are all common switch ins to it and see Dol as set up fodder.

Rapid Spin is self explanatory.


Last slot is up to you really SR, light screen, reflect for team support , Toxic helps break down dusknoir and spiritomb, two other common spin blockers.



Physical

Claydol@Leftovers
Impish Nature
252 HP / 152 DEF / 96 ATT / 52 SP.DEF
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Stealth Rock / Rest / Reflect / Light Screen /Toxic /Rest


This is a physical set.

Stone Edge 2hkos weavile and helps break down Gyarados.

Earthquake for STAB.

Rapid Spin is self explanatory.

Last move is up to you again.



Generally you want to go special or physical on Claydol regarding its attacking moves. It makes it easier to ev so it can actually attack.


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As for Miltank


Miltank@leftovers
252 HP / 224 Def / 32 Speed
Impish nature
Thick Fat / Scrappy
~ Body Slam
~ Earthquake / Zen Headbutt / Fire Punch
~ Heal Bell
~ Milk Drink


Body Slam gets parahax and STAB.

Earthquake deals with T-tar, heatran, Metagross etc., Zen Headbutt hits Gengar who walls you otherwise. Fire Punch helps deal with floaty steels. NOTE : Fire Punch is illegal with Scrappy.

Heal Bell for cleric-ness.

Milk drink to heal.

[Destiny100]

moveset + ev's for a umbreon please

[Dark_Azelf]

moveset + ev's for a umbreon please

Umbreon@Leftovers
Impish /Careful Nature
252 HP / 252 in whichever defense you want it to take hits on / 6 opposite defense.
- Payback
- Curse
- Wish
- Baton pass / Protect / Taunt


This is a nice set, Curse up and payback and it can do some damage.

Curse to buff you up.


Wish to keep healthy

Baton pass if you want to pass those curses. Protect to activte wish and taunt stops phasers.

[Shiraishi]

Whos a good poke that would benefit from those curses? I'm guessing Swampert ._. I've always wanted to use Umbreon :x

[Dark_Azelf]

Whos a good poke that would benefit from those curses? I'm guessing Swampert ._. I've always wanted to use Umbreon :x

Yeah, Swampert, Rhyperior, etc.

Just your slow sweeping monsters, they benefit the most.

[El Gofre]

Yeah cursepert rocks, in fact swampy in general rocks. As long as its purple :P Rhyperior is another nice one. And :O ive found a use for it on a ghost!

Dusknoir@Leftovers
Impish
252 HP/152SpDef/106Att
Curse
Painsplit
Pursuit
Shadow Sneak
Anti Blissey machine. Curse it, then if you think they will switch out, Pursuit it. Otherwise pain split takes a nice chunk out of whatever switches in and decimates blissey. It probably wouldn't work, but its nice in theory :)

[Shiraishi]

Using curse with a ghost pokemon kills half your HP :/

[PhoenixFlare]

Forrtress, Skarmory,Reflect Metagross, Scizor , Hell just about any Steel type, Bulky Gyarados, Torkoal, Swampert, Regirock (it survives 3 brick breaks even with no def evs ), Heracoss (If Weaviles not packing Aerial ace), there are quite a few.

Hm...... alright then thanks.

[El Gofre]

Using curse with a ghost pokemon kills half your HP :/

I know, which makes painsplit all the more effective. As an example, lets say you're facing blissey and manage to get the painsplit in. Assume both have max EVs and IVs in HP:
(294/2= 147)+(714-25%=536)=683
Dusknoir^^^ ^^^Blissey

683/2=341. This puts blisseys health way under half and fully heals noir. This calculation doesnt take other damage and healing into account, but its till gonna hurt :) And like i said, i doubt it would get put into practice, but it was a nice thought.

[Xairmo]

If a pokemon has an effort ribbon it means its EVs are maxed out right?

[Shiraishi]

Yep yep. Lowering your HP to make Pain split more effective is poo, Dusknoir gets 2 Hit KOd by most powerful sweepers anyway x.x

[Kirioroshi]

Would this be worth doing?

Use curse 3 times, then baton pass to an agility user.
Use agility a few times, then pass to a weavile.

Would it be worth doing?

[Xairmo]

Would this be worth doing?

Use curse 3 times, then baton pass to an agility user.
Use agility a few times, then pass to a weavile.

Would it be worth doing?
You should lead ninjask. Use sword dance then the speed boost kicks in, use protect and speed boost kicks in again. baton bass to umbreon. use curse 3 times, then baton pass to weavile ^^

[Kirioroshi]

O.o that could work...

in the end, would i able able to out speed some scarfer's?

[Harpuia]

okay I have a question! I have an R4 and theres this program that let's you create Pokemon and download them on to your game you can give it any moves set, any stats,and any item if I were to (lets use ambipom for an example) give him 252 EVs in speed and 252 in attack would it be considered hacked or illegal?

[PhoenixFlare]

okay I have a question! I have an R4 and theres this program that let's you create Pokemon and download them on to your game you can give it any moves set, any stats,and any item if I were to (lets use ambipom for an example) give him 252 EVs in speed and 252 in attack would it be considered hacked or illegal?

Yes any pokemon you have caught, or breeded, or traded from a friend who caught or breeded it, or got in mystery gift is hacked.

[Angelic Diablo]

okay I have a question! I have an R4 and theres this program that let's you create Pokemon and download them on to your game you can give it any moves set, any stats,and any item if I were to (lets use ambipom for an example) give him 252 EVs in speed and 252 in attack would it be considered hacked or illegal?

Depends on the person really, I for one do not care if you hack to get it, as long as all it's stats and moves and everything is ok

[Dark_Azelf]

okay I have a question! I have an R4 and theres this program that let's you create Pokemon and download them on to your game you can give it any moves set, any stats,and any item if I were to (lets use ambipom for an example) give him 252 EVs in speed and 252 in attack would it be considered hacked or illegal?

You mean Pokesav ??


Well, imo its ok as long as you make the pokemon legit, by that i mean not 31 in everything and 999 in every stat or 252 evs in everything or a stupid ability like wonderguard on something that doesnt get it.

I couldnt care less if the pokemon is used against me in a battle but made to look legit and has normal ivs and evs. It saves breeding time and Hidden power Breeding time. For example my friend has a Modest Baton pass (Pokemon XD move) Lunatone with Hidden power ( i forgot which HP type it was) he really wanted one and i sympathize with him, he pokesaved it, just because he wasnt about to spent hours, days, weeks even years to get a Modest Hidden Power Lunatone from pokemon XD with the correct Ivs for a good HP, just so he could get Baton pass aswell. I dont mind about stuff like this.

However, If you do use it i suggest you keep it undercover to save the hassle and only use them for personal use and not re-distribute them, just keep them to yourself for battling. Some people will get angry that they are battling a "hackbag", It can be argued by some people that you should take the time and breed them yourself. Ive already stated i dont mind, but some people arnt as sympathetic to hackers, weather they hack "legal" pokemon with legal stats movesets, abilities etc or illegal stats movesets, abilities etc. Just remember that.

[Harpuia]

You mean Pokesav ??


Well, imo its ok as long as you make the pokemon legit, by that i mean not 31 in everything and 999 in every stat or 252 evs in everything or a stupid ability like wonderguard on something that doesnt get it.

I couldnt care less if the pokemon is used against me in a battle but made to look legit and has normal ivs and evs. It saves breeding time and Hidden power Breeding time. For example my friend has a Modest Baton pass (Pokemon XD move) Lunatone with Hidden power ( i forgot which HP type it was) he really wanted one and i sympathize with him, he pokesaved it, just because he wasnt about to spent hours, days, weeks even years to get a Modest Hidden Power Lunatone from pokemon XD with the correct Ivs for a good HP, just so he could get Baton pass aswell. I dont mind about stuff like this.

However, If you do use it i suggest you keep it undercover to save the hassle and only use them for personal use and not re-distribute them, just keep them to yourself for battling. Some people will get angry that they are battling a "hackbag", It can be argued by some people that you should take the time and breed them yourself. Ive already stated i dont mind, but some people arnt as sympathetic to hackers, weather they hack "legal" pokemon with legal stats movesets, abilities etc or illegal stats movesets, abilities etc. Just remember that.alright thanks,you know I have about 60 machops in my storage box! I just couldn't get one with the right nature and ability.........

[Angelic Diablo]

Is Focus Punch worth trying for Poliwrath? I figure Sub up, then Belly Drum but unsure of what Fighting move to give him, Brick Break or Focus Punch

[Tortured_Soul]

I run Poliwrath like this:

Poliwrath@Leftovers / Salac Berry
Adamant
252 Atk, 232 HP, 24 Spd
Water Absorb

Substitue
Focus Punch
Belly Drum
Waterfall / Hypnosis

~T_S

[Lady Nicole]

I bred this Skarmory:

31, 21, 31, 29, 16, 30

Any good? I would have liked some more in attack though :\ Is SpDef needed on Skarm?... Does its crappy SpDef matter?

As for now, I'll keep breeding =D

[sims796]

That's perfect. It REALLY is. If you want more, go ahead, but that's do-able.

Skarmory won't ever need to take a Sp.Atk, so that doesn''t matter.

[Angelic Diablo]

I run Poliwrath like this:

Poliwrath@Leftovers / Salac Berry
Adamant
252 Atk, 232 HP, 24 Spd
Water Absorb

Substitue
Focus Punch
Belly Drum
Waterfall / Hypnosis

~T_S

Wow that was the exact set I was gonna use, except my EVs were 252 Atk, 212 HP and 40 Spd lol

[Tortured_Soul]

well yeah, and Substitute has another T in it.... lmao (Miss-spelt it)You can squeeze Ice Punch in there if you like but that would be over Belly Drum. It doesn't have enough coverage. (DAMN GAMEFREAK FOR NOT GIVING US 5 MOVE SLOTS FOR A POKEMON! AAARGH!)

Anyway, yeah, that should work fine. Hypnosis and Waterfall is a difficult choice though. (Perhaps you can get a sub passed from Vaporeon to Belly Drum up on, although Focus Punch fails then. Maybe run with Sub-Punch, something like this, with a Sub from Vaporeon.

Poliwrath@Salac Berry
Adamant
252 Atk, 72 Spd, 184 HP
Water Absorb

Hypnosis
Waterfall
Brick Break
Belly Drum

~T_S

[BobberyJo]

I'm looking for a physical wall pokemon, and I'm having trouble deciding between these.

Rhyperior
Dusknoir
Metagross

I'll post more specific things later, but when at their full potentiol, which one is the best?

[Angelic Diablo]

well yeah, and Substitute has another T in it.... lmao (Miss-spelt it)You can squeeze Ice Punch in there if you like but that would be over Belly Drum. It doesn't have enough coverage. (DAMN GAMEFREAK FOR NOT GIVING US 5 MOVE SLOTS FOR A POKEMON! AAARGH!)

Anyway, yeah, that should work fine. Hypnosis and Waterfall is a difficult choice though. (Perhaps you can get a sub passed from Vaporeon to Belly Drum up on, although Focus Punch fails then. Maybe run with Sub-Punch, something like this, with a Sub from Vaporeon.

Poliwrath@Salac Berry
Adamant
252 Atk, 72 Spd, 184 HP
Water Absorb

Hypnosis
Waterfall
Brick Break
Belly Drum

~T_S

Yeah but without using Sub, he has to wait for Vappy's sub to break before his Salac even activates..

I'm looking for a physical wall pokemon, and I'm having trouble deciding between these.

Rhyperior
Dusknoir
Metagross

I'll post more specific things later, but when at their full potentiol, which one is the best

None of them can be a physical wall, Metagross and Rhyperior are tanks and Dusknoir is a mixed/dual wall.

Physical walls are pokemon like Skarmory, Forretress, Steelix, Weezing etc

[El Gofre]

Hi all, i saw a post today saying that aqua jet and ice beam on the same set are illegal, and i was wondering why. Is it because you can only breed one or the other?

[Dark_Azelf]

Hi all, i saw a post today saying that aqua jet and ice beam on the same set are illegal, and i was wondering why. Is it because you can only breed one or the other?

ice Punch you mean.

Its a move tutor move from emerald and Aqua Jet is a D/P egg move so you cant get both.

[Tortured_Soul]

Yeah but without using Sub, he has to wait for Vappy's sub to break before his Salac even activates..



That was my point. It is a Dilema over whether to allow the sub-standard coverage for the power and speed. We neeeeeeeeeeeed 5 move slots. ;)

~T_S

[Kirioroshi]

i have a question about berries. Since with is a Q&A threat, i thought i might post it here.

Lets say i have a weavile..It has 6 Ev's in hp, 255 in Spd and 249 in Atk. I screwed up somewhere while Ev training, but i know i have 255 in speed, because my Weavile has Max Spd Stats.

Since i already used berries on spd before, would the beerry just decrease it by 10 or would it lower my Ev's to 100?

[El Gofre]

Hi all, im doing a UU team, who would work for a special sweeper and special wall?

[Dark_Azelf]

Hi all, im doing a UU team, who would work for a special sweeper and special wall?

YAY, this is /THE/ UU sp.wall.

Hypno@Leftovers
Calm nature
252 HP / 200 sp.DEF / 58 DEF.
Trait : insomnia
- Wish
- Reflect
- Thunderwave / Hypnosis
- Psychic / Seismic Toss.

I use this in OU sometimes if my team is mixape weak and it utterly rapes it.

But anyways this is the blissey of UU.

Another great sp.wall is this.

Lanturn@Leftovers
Calm nature
40 HP / 192 SpA / 240 SpD / 36 Speed
Trait : Volt Absorb
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Rest
- Sleep Talk.

I remember outstalling a blissey with this lol

Awesome sp.wall though.

Grumpig, Noctowl, etc can also do a good job at sp.walling

[El Gofre]

Ok thankyee, i like that hypno set :)
Any ideas for a spec sweeper? Im stuck with rotom atm :\

[Dark_Azelf]

Ok thankyee, i like that hypno set :)
Any ideas for a spec sweeper? Im stuck with rotom atm :\

Electrode, Gloduck, Ninetails, Rock Polish or Rain Dance Omastar, Venomoth, Victreebel, Octillery.

Ive only really used those UU wise.


If you want a set ask which one.

[El Gofre]

Could i have a set for venomoth plz? i would go omastar but my team's already very ground-weak.

[Dark_Azelf]

Could i have a set for venomoth plz? i would go omastar but my team's already very ground-weak.

Sure

Venomoth@Choice Specs
Trait : Tinted Lense
6 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Bug Buzz
- Hidden power Fighting /Hidden power Ground /Sleep powder
- Sludge Bomb
- Psychic

Always loved this pokemon and you end up with some redundant coverage, but Tinted lense is the thing that makes this set work, because if your foe switches into a not very effective attack it does double the damage.

[sims796]

Ok, lets talk this out...

So, if the move is not very effective, it does half damage.

But with Tinted Lens, it's 2x damage.

So, is that now one whole? Or is the "not very effective" ignored?

[Dark_Azelf]

Ok, lets talk this out...

So, if the move is not very effective, it does half damage.

But with Tinted Lens, it's 2x damage.

So, is that now one whole? Or is the "not very effective" ignored?


If a move is not very effective, the damage from the attack is doubled. If the foe would normally take half damage, it now takes normal damage. If the foe would take 1/4th damage, it now takes half damage.

[Shiraishi]

Hi all, im doing a UU team, who would work for a special sweeper and special wall?

My UU sp wall is..

Mantine@Leftovers
Calm
Evs:252 HP/120 Sp. atk/138 Sp. def
-Surf/Hydro Pump
-Ice beam
-Rest
-Toxic/HP[Electric]

Man, why didn't this thing get roost -_- I have heal bell support from CHimecho so it works quite well.

[Lady Nicole]

i have a question about berries. Since with is a Q&A threat, i thought i might post it here.

Lets say i have a weavile..It has 6 Ev's in hp, 255 in Spd and 249 in Atk. I screwed up somewhere while Ev training, but i know i have 255 in speed, because my Weavile has Max Spd Stats.

Since i already used berries on spd before, would the beerry just decrease it by 10 or would it lower my Ev's to 100?

I can see that no-one answered your question so I'll try to help :) I think if you just use one it will drop only 10 but I'm not sure; I don't really know :( You can use a Stat Calculator like this (http://www.psypokes.com/dex/stats.php) to find out what your Pokemon's stat should be at the level it is though. I do that when I lose track of my EVs =P

[Xairmo]

I'm having trouble with my gardevoirs move set

Gardevoir@Leftovers
Modest
Trace

Calm Mind
Thunderbolt
WoW
Psychic/Shadow Ball

Is that a good set? And should i run shadow ball or psychic?

[Kayashi]

I'd run Hidden Power [ICE]. Otherwise use Shadowball.

[El Gofre]

Syncronise over Trace, its generally handier and some abilities can screw you over.

[Dark_Azelf]

I'm having trouble with my gardevoirs move set

Gardevoir@Leftovers
Modest
Trace

Calm Mind
Thunderbolt
WoW
Psychic/Shadow Ball

Is that a good set? And should i run shadow ball or psychic?




Gardevoir@Leftovers
56 HP / 252 SpA / 200 Spe
Timid nature
Trait : Trace
~ Calm Mind
~ Psychic
~ Thunderbolt / Focus Blast / Shadow Ball
~ Will-O-Wisp / Wish


Calm Mind Gardy

This needs Timid though.



Gardevoir@leftovers
252 HP / 48 SpA / 176 SpD / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
Trait : Trace
~ Hypnosis
~ Will-O-Wisp / Thunder Wave
~ Psychic
~ Thunderbolt / Focus Blast / Shadow Ball

Double Status , this is a great set.


Gardevoir@leftovers
252 HP / 48 SpA / 176 SpD / 32 Spe
Modest Nature
Trait : Trace.
~ Will-O-Wisp
~ Wish
~ Psychic
~ Thunderbolt / Focus Blast / Shadow Ball

Wish and general Support Gardy.

Needs Psychic on ALL sets or you dont have a reliable STAB move.

Thunderbolt covers Gyarados and Skarmory; Focus Blast is a more proactive solution for taking care of Weavile and Tyranitar, plus it dents Heatran pretty badly; Shadow Ball helps against Azelf and other Psychics and Ghosts if you predict one should switch in.

its up to you what your team lacks based on your decision of what you should choose as an attack move to go along with Psychic.

*Sigh* If only the move Pursuit wasnt invented.

[Cloud_85]

Well Garchomp problem, I don't know what of these 2 should use:

ScarfChomp@Choice Scarf
Nature:Adamant
252 Atk / 32 SpD / 224 Spe
Outrage (http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/outrage)
Earthquake (http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/earthquake)
Crunch (http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/crunch) / Stone Edge (http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/stone_edge)
Fire Blast (http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/fire_blast)
Easy, Good Starter, is freakin fast!. Outrage and Eq for stab. Crunch is for Cresselia and Stone Edge for Gyara. Fire Blast is for Skarmory and for Ice.

and the another one the surprise:

Chain Garchomp@Life orb
Nature: Naughty/Rash
Ev's:16 Atk / 252 SpA / 240 Spe
~ Swords Dance (http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/swords_dance)
~ Earthquake (http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/earthquake)
~ Draco Meteor (http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/draco_meteor)
~ Fire Blast (http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/fire_blast)

This moveset can surprise more than one, cause u use the Sp atk since the mighty Chomp 130 Atkn, but it's a good idea for one who use counter. EQ=Stab. Draca Meteor for kill, fire Blast Stays the same that the other Chomp. Sword dance for atack when ur SP atk low t much. With this chomp y will use as starter mu T-Tar so I can miz both ability's makin the Sword Dance a little bit secure.

So I need help, witch of this ones shall I use?

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Depends on your team. If you need speed and/or a good revenge killer, ScarfChomp is tremendous. If Skarmroy and/or Blissey is your prime concern, Chain Chomp is better.

Also, you'll have the element of surprise on your side if you use Chain Chomp, since nobody uses or expects it anymore.

[Cloud_85]

Depends on your team. If you need speed and/or a good revenge killer, ScarfChomp is tremendous. If Skarmroy and/or Blissey is your prime concern, Chain Chomp is better.

Also, you'll have the element of surprise on your side if you use Chain Chomp, since nobody uses or expects it anymore.

That's right but really i don't have problems with Blissey (Tar eat him/her) and also I don't have problem with cause i can use Fire Blast or my gengars thunderbold. But thnks

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Then use Scarfchomp ;) though, in all honesty, the SD set is better.

[Shiraishi]

I prefer SD-Chomp with Fire blast instead of ChainChomp. >_> I tried both.

[flamehaze94]

I don't get the point of ChainChomp at all >.>

Swords Danced LO Outrages from max attack Garchomp should come close to 2HKOing even Skarm.

[Cloud_85]

I don't get the point of ChainChomp at all >.>

Swords Danced LO Outrages from max attack Garchomp should come close to 2HKOing even Skarm.

The point of the ChainChomp is surprise the opponent, many when see a chomp change to a wall or Tank like Brozong or cresselia, so u surprise them cause u can take phisical and Special Tanks/Walls. It's the surprise factor ;)

Another think, so many times i face a poke with counter (alakazam) but that's surprise me, so with Sp.Atk's they can't surprise U so easy.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

the beauty of Chain Chomp is in the deadly Draco Metoer it dishes out. Fire Blast is meh, basically for Bronzong and skarm. The effectiveness of that set is hitting the likes of Donphan with a big, fat Draco Meteor. BAM.

And actually, Cresselia walls Chain Chomp really bad >.>

[Panicz]

Quick Question
Say I start with a Pokemon at the beginning of a battle who, with superior speed status, sleeps the opponent's starter. Now, I'm obviously predicting the opponent will switch, and I switch myself. However, since my Pokemon is faster, would it switch first? And if so, if I switched to a Pokemon with the Arena Trap ability (not allowing switches), would that Ability work and not allow the Sleeped Pokemon to switch; subsequently staying on the field at the mercy of my new Pokemon?

Thanks in advance.

[Harpuia]

no because it would already be in the process of switching you cant just cancel it

[Shiny Umbreon]

Quick Question
Say I start with a Pokemon at the beginning of a battle who, with superior speed status, sleeps the opponent's starter. Now, I'm obviously predicting the opponent will switch, and I switch myself. However, since my Pokemon is faster, would it switch first? And if so, if I switched to a Pokemon with the Arena Trap ability (not allowing switches), would that Ability work and not allow the Sleeped Pokemon to switch; subsequently staying on the field at the mercy of my new Pokemon?

Thanks in advance.
I don't know about the order of switching but I doubt Arena Trap works in this case. Both should be able to switch that turn.

[Lady Nicole]

the beauty of Chain Chomp is in the deadly Draco Metoer it dishes out. Fire Blast is meh, basically for Bronzong and skarm. The effectiveness of that set is hitting the likes of Donphan with a big, fat Draco Meteor. BAM.

And actually, Cresselia walls Chain Chomp really bad >.>

I have a noob question: What's a Chain Chomp? :paranoid:

[Cascoon is EPIC]

I have a noob question: What's a Chain Chomp? :paranoid:

IT HAS A HUGE SURPRISE FACTOR , IT USES sd FIRST so they swicth to approiate counter then use a special attack ;) (Please reverse order of caps :] )

[Shiraishi]

Why not just post the moveset?=_=

Garchomp@Life orb
Nature:Naughty
EVs:16 Atk/240 Spd/252 Sp. atk
-Draco Meteor
-Fire blast
-Swords Dance
-Earthquake

SD-Chomp w/ Fire blast ish better >:C Chain Chomp can kill Donphan, however. Whoopie, one pokemon.

[Dark_Azelf]

I have a noob question: What's a Chain Chomp? :paranoid:

Mix sweeping Garchomp


Garchomp@Life Orb
252 SP.ATT / 240 SPEED / 16 ATT
Naughty nature
- Draco meteor
- Fire Blast
- Sword Dance
- Earthquake

Takes out stuff Fully physical Garchomps cant.

First, use Swords Dance. Swords Dancing may lure an opponent into a false sense of security, as nothing tells them you are not running the standard physical sweeper, whereas any other move would give away the surprise. Yes, Earthquake as well, since it would do less damage than a usual Life Orb Garchomp would do. After Swords Dancing you should take note of what your opponent brings in to counter Garchomp. If it is one of these Hippowdon, Starmie, Slowbro, Weezing, Donphan, are merely examples, but Draco Meteor them on the switch in and they are 1/2hko'd.

Even after the attack drop on this set Draco meteor will do more than earthquake.

Swords Dance and Earthquake so it doesnt completely get lol'd at by special walls.

Fire Blast takes out steel.

[flamehaze94]

.____.
Whoever made ChainChomp must have been smoking green leaves.

Being walled, by Cress is pathetic, seeing as how Garhcomp is one of those sweepers that doesn't lose to Cresselia.

Garchomp @ Leftovers / Bright Powder / Life Orb
Trait: Sand Veil
EVs: 16HP / 252Atk / 240Spd
Adamant nature(+Atk, -SpAtk)
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Substitute
- Swords Dance


Out damages ChainChomp in every way possible. In SandStorm w/ Bright Powder, you've got yourself a miniature Uber. Outrage should come close to 2HKO Skarmory after a SD. Everything else is toast.

[Arquero]

Simple and probably stupid questions (although I´m new to the added depthes of training and breeding)

How do I keep track of a pokemons EVs? Assuming I´ve bred him for the moves and natures I want out of them..

Does each hatched pokemon start with 0 EVs in each stat ?
Is there some kind of a guide that can tell me what each pokemon gives as EVs at the end of a battle?
Does exp. share split the EVs or do both pokemon get the same amount as one would normally get without exp. share?

Is there an easy way to predict IV values for higher levels? I´m not sure if they would become a constant variable since they are effected by the EVs earned (as is my understanding)


Yeah it´s a lot of questions but I´m new to this and any help is really appreciated :) I want to raise a good team so I can kick my friends psychic-loving ass :P

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Simple and probably stupid questions (although I´m new to the added depthes of training and breeding)

We all ahve to start somewhere ;)

How do I keep track of a pokemons EVs? Assuming I´ve bred him for the moves and natures I want out of them..

Writing it down is best.

Does each hatched pokemon start with 0 EVs in each stat ? Yes.
Is there some kind of a guide that can tell me what each pokemon gives as EVs at the end of a battle? Yeah, Serebii has one.
Does exp. share split the EVs or do both pokemon get the same amount as one would normally get without exp. share?

What I bolded ;)

Is there an easy way to predict IV values for higher levels? I´m not sure if they would become a constant variable since they are effected by the EVs earned (as is my understanding)

IV values can be measured by Metalkid's calc.

Yeah it´s a lot of questions but I´m new to this and any help is really appreciated :) I want to raise a good team so I can kick my friends psychic-loving ass :P

Get a Weavile and you'll6-0 his team most likely :P

Yeah, yeah, answers in bold...breeding is easir once you get the hang of it.

[Tortured_Soul]

Or you can use the Counter app. in your Poketch, I'm thinking that is what it is there for. (11 I think it is)

~T_S

[Angelic Diablo]

Yeah but if you power off the number resets, so it's still better to write the numbers down =P

[evilcheese]

ok i know speed boost with choice scarf is one stage which is multiplied by 1.5.

so my question is rock polish raises by 2 stages so what is it multiplied by?

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

ok i know speed boost with choice scarf is one stage which is multiplied by 1.5.

so my question is rock polish raises by 2 stages so what is it multiplied by?

It doubles your speed...so by 2...a stage is .5 each...sorta

[metalslug66]

I don't get the whole ev training thing.... okay so my ambipom has a macho brace on and I kill about 60 magikarps in a row and his speed goes up +3 how do you make it to where it goes up like 20?

[Kirioroshi]

Ev's add to your stats gradually.. It doesnt take place right away.

[BobberyJo]

I don't want an in depth RMT so I'm just posting it here

I've got
Salamence, Blissy, Umbreon.Electivire, Infernape, Skarmory

I'm in need of a good rapid spinner.
Who should I take out?

[Rukario1]

Take out Umbreon and Add in a Starmie / Forretress.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Forry with Skarm would be really stupid though :0

Question: what is Darkai's typing? Yeah, lol all you want.

[El Gofre]

Hi all, i mite be getting a porygon z in a trade, but im worried about its speed. Is 274 enough to function as a sweeper? I really dont wanna scarf it.

[Dark_Azelf]

Forry with Skarm would be really stupid though :0

Question: what is Darkai's typing? Yeah, lol all you want.

i was confused on that aswell as i thought it was ghost, but its just pure Dark type.

[ABYAY]

Hi all, i mite be getting a porygon z in a trade, but im worried about its speed. Is 274 enough to function as a sweeper? I really dont wanna scarf it.

If the Pory-Z is Modest and trained fully in speed and sp. atk, you're looking at 26 speed IVs, which is pretty good. Specs that and it's set to go.

If the Pory-Z is Timid and EV trained as above, you're looking at a horrid Pory-Z with only 2 speed IVs.

Ask for its nature first before accepting.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Pory Z will always be slower than other sweepers unless you scarf it, so speed shouldn't be a problem in this circumstance.

Just be sure its decent though, so Swampert isn't outspeeding you or anything.

[Cloud_85]

Ok, I need some help with this, cause I have some Wall/Tank problems XD

Which of this Brozong wil be better??

Brozong@Leftovers/Chesto Berry
Bold
Ev's:252 HP / 100 Def / 156 SpA
Block (http://www.pkmncommunity.com/dp/moves/block)
Calm Mind (http://www.pkmncommunity.com/dp/moves/calm_mind)
Psychic (http://www.pkmncommunity.com/dp/moves/psychic)
Rest (http://www.pkmncommunity.com/dp/moves/rest)
Something like the umbreon, trap Calm Mind Kill
Brozong@Chesto Berry/Leftovers
Relaxed
Ev's: 252 HP / 152 Atk / 8 Def / 96 SpD
~ Gyro Ball (http://www.pkmncommunity.com/dp/moves/gyro_ball)
~ Earthquake (http://www.pkmncommunity.com/dp/moves/earthquake)
~ Trick Room (http://www.pkmncommunity.com/dp/moves/trick_room)
~ Hypnosis (http://www.pkmncommunity.com/dp/moves/hypnosis) / Explosion (http://www.pkmncommunity.com/dp/moves/explosion)
This one is awqesome Trick room, Gyro Ball for kill sweepers and EQ for others, and u can use Explosion after the other can.

Please don't say depend of ur team, cause the other wall will be achord of this one.

[ABYAY]

The trapping CM/Psychic kill can backfire if you're not prepared for what's to come. I'd say go with the more basic type, the Trick Roomer, but make SURE your team runs more along the slow side. You could go Hypnosis, Earthquake, Gyro Ball, and Explosion if you don't want Trick Room.

[Cloud_85]

The trapping CM/Psychic kill can backfire if you're not prepared for what's to come. I'd say go with the more basic type, the Trick Roomer, but make SURE your team runs more along the slow side. You could go Hypnosis, Earthquake, Gyro Ball, and Explosion if you don't want Trick Room.ç

Ok, I think Thinck will work, cause 4 of my 6 pokemons are slow:
Tyranitar
Brozong
Umbreon (this maybe will be re placed)
Foretress (this could be another wall so also will be slow)

So I think it will go

PD: the 2 others are Garchomp and Gengar so they could die with Trick...

[Justin T]

Hey I was able to acquire a really good modest togekiss with these evs: 64 HP / 252 Sp.Atk / 192 Spd. What is the best Moveset for it?

[Britney Spears]

Forry with Skarm would be really stupid though :0

Question: what is Darkai's typing? Yeah, lol all you want.

It's a pure Dark-type Anti.

[BobberyJo]

Balstoise-252 Ev's in Defense and Sp.Defense 4 in Hp
Mirror Coat
Counter
Surf
Rpaid Spin

Would this be an alright poke to use?

[Dark_Azelf]

I have just recently acquired one of these

Celebi@leftovers
Bold Nature
252 HP / 220 Def / 36 Spe
~ Grass Knot
~ Recover
~ Heal Bell
~ Leech Seed

Im stuck on what to pair it with, walling wise every thing i seem to pair with it adds to its weakness. So im finding it difficult to find something.

For example

Skarmory gets paired walling wise with Blissey

But, what the hell does this go with that covers its weaknesses lol ? It has 7 weaknesses by the way.


As Celebi was abused alot in advanced, some people who play advanced may know, probably Anti-pop will.

[Harpuia]

I have just recently acquired one of these

Celebi@leftovers
Bold Nature
252 HP / 220 Def / 36 Spe
~ Grass Knot
~ Recover
~ Heal Bell
~ Leech Seed

Im stuck on what to pair it with, walling wise every thing i seem to pair with it adds to its weakness. So im finding it difficult to find something.

For example

Skarmory gets paired walling wise with Blissey

But, what the hell does this go with that covers its weaknesses lol ? It has 7 weaknesses by the way.


As Celebi was abused alot in advanced, some people who play advanced may know, probably Anti-pop will.why grass knot why not energy ball that would seem to work better

[Dark_Azelf]

why grass knot why not energy ball that would seem to work better

Grass Knot does more to heavy stuff which happen to be its main counters T-Tar, Gyarados, Rhyperior, Milotic etc.

Energy Ball only helps more against Vaporeon and Weavile really

[Destiny100]

skarm is used for phyiscal wall
and bliss is used for special ryt?
what other phyiscal and special walls are there?
I'm think of using it in a team with

dragonite
weavile

[Dark_Azelf]

skarm is used for phyiscal wall
and bliss is used for special ryt?
what other phyiscal and special walls are there?
I'm think of using it in a team with

dragonite
weavile

Dusknoir,Cresselia, Claydol, Bronzong, Suicune, umbreon are great mixed walls.

Skarmory, Gliscor, Hippowdon, Weezing, Donphan, Forretress, uxie, Tangrowth, Slowbro, Drapion, are all good phys walls/tanks.


Sp.Walls are Blissey, Regice, Snoralax, Tentacruel, Articuno,hypno, Dusknoir, Cradlly (In sandstorms), Empoleon etc are all great sp.walls/tanks.

There are alot more. I just mentioned most of the main ones.

[Destiny100]

oh thanks
i might start making my team now

would a team with this be ok?

umbreon, cresselia, snorlax
Weavile, dragonite, T-tar

i'm not sure with what teams should have ect.
but i like the look of that
any recommendations with EV's or something?

If it's too much say so

[Dark_Azelf]

oh thanks
i might start making my team now

would a team with this be ok?

umbreon, cresselia, snorlax
Weavile, dragonite, T-tar

i'm not sure with what teams should have ect.
but i like the look of that
any recommendations with EV's or something?

If it's too much say so

Umbreon, T-Tar, Snorlax, Weavile die to fighting attacks and Cresselia and Dragonite die to Bug and Rock attacks respectively, Which means Heracross hurts you pretty bad.

Try using something different toat does the same job, but doesn't add to weaknesses, as in different types.

Also you dont have a special sweeper.

[Destiny100]

any suggestions? for teams?


oh yh, i recheck my IV's for Dragonite
23 speed
29 attack
31 def
24 spc att
28-23 -.- spd
and 17 hp

hmm, i need to keep on breeding i think

[Justin T]

Um don't forget me:nervous:. I woul still love to know what would be the best moveset for a Modest Togekiss with the ev spread of 64HP/252Sp.Atk/192Spd

[Harpuia]

Grass Knot does more to heavy stuff which happen to be its main counters T-Tar, Gyarados, Rhyperior, Milotic etc.

Energy Ball only helps more against Vaporeon and Weavile reallyIve never battled anyone yet with a rhyperior or tyranatar.......

[Dark_Azelf]

Ive never battled anyone yet with a rhyperior or tyranatar.......

Well they are oh so common, Choice Band Pursuit and Crunch from T-Tar is what i fear, aswell as Choice Band Megahorn from Rhyperior. Rhyperior may not be too common, but Tyranitar is, especially on shoddy battle.

Grass Knot deals more to those and does around 40% to Gyarados, who would wall me with Energy Ball.

[Xairmo]

Im having Weezing moveset problems, heres what i have

Weezing@Lefties
Bold
Levitate
252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Speed
~ Thunderbolt
~ Will-O-Wisp
~ HP [Ice]
~ Pain Split/Explosion

I cant choose between pain split and explosion, though i am leaning towards pain split. what should i go with?