Request a Team / Individual Move Set Thread

[Britney Spears]

Post here to ask for a new team or a move set for a Pokemon. Don't expect others to make your team: give them some sort of idea of what you want.

[evilcheese]

can i have the movesets for cursespurt?

[Goldenhammerhead]

Yep......right now i just have a couple of pokes bunched together that i (and not many others,mind you me) call a team.

They need heaps of tweaking to become effective (suggest which pokes to remove and new ones to add,moveset changes etc.

BTW:the listed pokes are already made so i wont list the EVs i cant remember.

These guys are going on PBR doubles as well kk.

Electrivire@expert belt
lonely nature 232 ATK, 188 SPD, 90 SATK
cross chop
thunderbolt
ice punch
EQ

Scizor@life orb
naughty nature. 252 att 252 speed 6 def
night slash
agility
x scissor
iron head

Snorlax@lefties
Impish common spread
rest
curse
EQ
body slam

Espeon@choice specs
timid 252 speed 252 att
grass knot
hidden power
phycic
shadow ball

Blissey@lefties
bold common spread
ice beam
aromatheropy
softboiled
thunder wave

Torkoal @ Leftovers; White Smoke
Relaxed; 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Special Attack
Lava Plume
Explosion
Rapid Spin
Stealth Rock


current changes in bold,changes not completed yet so feel free to comment.

Not very good is it? Lacks all the major categories. See why i need help?

[Arcknight316]

What? A new thread? Well, I posted this earlier, but it got locked into the old thread.....

HP Grass or Ground on Moltres?

Moltres @ Life Orb
Modest / Pressure (If I can run ModestOrb on Porygon-Z, then I can run it on Moltres)
Flamethrower
HP Grass
Air Slash
Extrasensory

[ABYAY]

Go HP ground; this deals with Heatran and T-Tar somewhat, but mainly Heatran which would originally tear you apart in minutes. Also deals with Electrics.

Hammerhead, you really need Adamant on Scizor; that's all I request you do with that.

[Goldenhammerhead]

Go HP ground; this deals with Heatran and T-Tar somewhat, but mainly Heatran which would originally tear you apart in minutes. Also deals with Electrics.

Hammerhead, you really need Adamant on Scizor; that's all I request you do with that.

i think i need less walls....what do you think of a pory Z as a spec sweeper packing discharge to help vire?(replacing espeon BTW)

[Phoenix Rebirth]

Can get I the moveset for MixedMence?

[Angelic Diablo]

What? A new thread? Well, I posted this earlier, but it got locked into the old thread.....

HP Grass or Ground on Moltres?

Moltres @ Life Orb
Modest / Pressure (If I can run ModestOrb on Porygon-Z, then I can run it on Moltres)
Flamethrower
HP Grass
Air Slash
Extrasensory

Ice/Grass was the 3rd Gen standard, but with Heatran around it might be better to go Ground

i think i need less walls....what do you think of a pory Z as a spec sweeper packing discharge to help vire?(replacing espeon BTW)

Thunderbolt > Discharge

Can get I the moveset for MixedMence?

Salamence@Life Orb/Leftovers/Expert Belt
Naughty Nature
-Dragon Dance
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Fire Blast

unsure on the EVs however

[Goldenhammerhead]

What? A new thread? Well, I posted this earlier, but it got locked into the old thread.....

HP Grass or Ground on Moltres?

Moltres @ Life Orb
Modest / Pressure (If I can run ModestOrb on Porygon-Z, then I can run it on Moltres)
Flamethrower
HP Grass
Air Slash
Extrasensory

i would go grass to cover water, rock and ground.

[Phoenix Rebirth]

Salamence@Life Orb/Leftovers/Expert Belt
Naughty Nature
-Dragon Dance
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Fire Blast

unsure on the EVs however

Is there one that does not include EQ? That one is hard to get from the battle tower.

[Goldenhammerhead]

Requesting a moveset for a special sweeper porygon z....pack discharge at your discretion because it is going to be on a doubles team with a vire.

[ABYAY]

Pory-Z@Expert Belt/Wise Glasses
Modest nature
(Unsure of EVs, but if you wanna run speed, max sp.atk/max spd)
Adaptability

Discharge
Ice Beam
Tri Attack
Shadow Ball/Dark Pulse

I'm not a Pory Z user sadly.

[Goldenhammerhead]

Pory-Z@Expert Belt/Wise Glasses
Modest nature
(Unsure of EVs, but if you wanna run speed, max sp.atk/max spd)
Adaptability

Discharge
Ice Beam
Tri Attack
Shadow Ball/Dark Pulse

I'm not a Pory Z user sadly.

ill look around cause that just doesnt look right

[ABYAY]

If you want a bulky Porygon, go Porygon2 because its defenses are higher and you're sure to get off at least one Discharge to help Vire out.

[Arcknight316]

Guys, what does the standard MixApe look like?

[shedinjask]

Infernape @ Life Orb
24 Attk/252 SAttk/232 Spd -- Hasty/Naive
Scheme
Grass Rope
Fire Blast/Flamethrower
Close Combat

EVs OHKO all Bliss and outspeed something I forget. In any case, it's standard.

[Arcknight316]

Infernape @ Life Orb
24 Attk/252 SAttk/232 Spd -- Hasty/Naive
Scheme
Grass Rope
Fire Blast/Flamethrower
Close Combat

EVs OHKO all Bliss and outspeed something I forget. In any case, it's standard.

How about Focus Sash > Life Orb?

[shedinjask]

You could. But it really needs Life Orb and forces switches like crazy so you will get to NP.

[Goldenhammerhead]

Ok espeon is now porygon Z.anyone got any more suggestions?

Electrivire@expert belt LEADER 1
lonely nature 232 ATK, 188 SPD, 90 SATK
cross chop
thunderbolt
ice punch
EQ

Scizor@life orb
adamant nature. 252 att 252 speed 6 def
night slash
agility
x scissor
iron head

Snorlax@lefties
Impish common spread
rest
curse
EQ
body slam

Porygon-Z@choice scarf LEADER 2
modest common EVs
ice beam
discharge
dark pulse
tri attack

Blissey@lefties
bold common spread
ice beam
aromatheropy
softboiled
thunder wave

Torkoal @ Leftovers; White Smoke
Relaxed; 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Special Attack
Lava Plume
Explosion
Rapid Spin
Stealth Rock

[ABYAY]

Scizor still needs to be Adamant; also, if you wanted speed and attack, Scyther works too with Swords Dance. He may be a lil more fragile, but Choice Band Scyther works for me just fine. With Scizor... I don't know to be honest.

[Goldenhammerhead]

Scizor still needs to be Adamant; also, if you wanted speed and attack, Scyther works too with Swords Dance. He may be a lil more fragile, but Choice Band Scyther works for me just fine. With Scizor... I don't know to be honest.

All of those pokes are already made except for torkoal and pory z. Yeah i made scizor when i was a noob competetive battler....and it is my favourite poke...so i guess it deserves to be remade and with a REAL ev spread..(IT has 252 speed and att plus 6 hp right now)(+ i didnt know bout IVs and it has good ones except for a 3 in speed!!!.

Editing now....EV spread and moveset remain until resuggested.

[Angelic Diablo]

Is there one that does not include EQ? That one is hard to get from the battle tower.

Rock Slide, HP Flying (if 3rd Gen), Aerial Ace...

they can go over Earthquake if you don't wanna get it from BT...

[Goldenhammerhead]

Ok espeon is now porygon Z.anyone got any more suggestions?

Electrivire@expert belt LEADER 1
lonely nature 232 ATK, 188 SPD, 90 SATK
cross chop
thunderbolt
ice punch
EQ

Scizor@life orb
adamant nature. 252 att 252 speed 6 def
night slash
agility
x scissor
iron head

Snorlax@lefties
Impish common spread
rest
curse
EQ
body slam

Porygon-Z@choice scarf LEADER 2
modest common EVs
ice beam
discharge
dark pulse
tri attack

Blissey@lefties
bold common spread
ice beam
aromatheropy
softboiled
thunder wave

Torkoal @ Leftovers; White Smoke
Relaxed; 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Special Attack
Lava Plume
Explosion
Rapid Spin
Stealth Rock

I think i need to get rid of one of my walls....but which one??? probably snorlax as it is neither a cleric or spinner,stealther.....but what kind of offense should i replace it with?
Anyone suggest a non wall poke to even my team up abit?
BTW:Any changes on the EVs for scizor and its moveset?

[ABYAY]

You're in good need of a Heracross counter, which I can see will really mess you up. I saw someone with a nice set for it.

Staraptor @ Choice Scarf
Adamant
252 atk/176spd/80 HP

Brave Bird
U-Turn
Close Combat
Return

This set can work a good way to not only deal with ScarfCross, but Scarf'd Heatran. U-Turn for a quick switch if against something effective against you and Return for STAB. HP for Brave Bird.

Also, if you want to help take down Cross with another pokemon of yours, Scizor can do that with Technician Aerial Ace. Surely Scizor takes a Close Combat without dying if it's not Banded. It's also more suited for Baton Passing, but the sweeper set I suppose could work.

[Angelic Diablo]

You're in good need of a Heracross counter, which I can see will really mess you up. I saw someone with a nice set for it.

Staraptor @ Choice Scarf
Adamant
252 atk/176spd/80 HP

Brave Bird
U-Turn
Close Combat
Return

This set can work a good way to not only deal with ScarfCross, but Scarf'd Heatran. U-Turn for a quick switch if against something effective against you and Return for STAB. HP for Brave Bird.

Also, if you want to help take down Cross with another pokemon of yours, Scyther can do that with Technician Aerial Ace. Surely Scizor takes a Close Combat without dying if it's not Banded. It's also more suited for Baton Passing, but the sweeper set I suppose could work.

The way I see the pokemon, Scyther is your sweeper, Scizor is your BPer...

[Goldenhammerhead]

The way I see the pokemon, Scyther is your sweeper, Scizor is your BPer...

kk.......guess im using syther(or is my scizor just as good for sweeping?).......can someone give me an updated sweeping set for him?
+can you think of another poke that does the same thing as that staraptor to the same effect, if not illl use it....

[ransen]

Can i have a Slaking moveset and EVs? The moveset and EVs are meant to counter the likes of herracross (normal mono) and hit anything else hard. Something like a little speed to outspeed non scarfed crosses, some hp to survive a non cb CC or somehting like that.

[Angelic Diablo]

kk.......guess im using syther(or is my scizor just as good for sweeping?).......can someone give me an updated sweeping set for him?
+can you think of another poke that does the same thing as that staraptor to the same effect, if not illl use it....

The problem with Scizor is that he lost a lot of speed, and most sweepers need speed in order to function properly, so despite the fact he is stronger (+20 Base Attack) the speed loss (-50 Base Speed) isn't worth it

Scyther@Focus Sash
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Spd, 252 Atk, 6 HP
-X Scissor
-Aerial Ace
-Reversal
-Swords Dance

Aerial Ace is outputing at 135 Base Power (thanks to STAB and Technician) so it puts a dent in most things, especially after an SD, Reversal is just fun to use after SD and Focus Sash has kicked in.

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I need help with the EVs for a Mixpert, anyone?

Swampert@Leftovers
Relaxed Nature
-Hydro Pump/Surf
-Earthquake
-Ice Beam/Avalanche
-Rain Dance

Rain Dance as it's for a Rain Dance team, other moves speak for themselves (well they should =P)

[Cascoon is EPIC]

ok i need a pokemon that can take a hit but can take a hit aswell soim thinking about using a rhyperoir

can someone give me a good moveset based off my needs?

[trtwiggy]

Hello I am looking for a team to battle my friend with.

If anyone is willing to help I only have access to Diamond, Fire Red, and Sapphire versions. I am not very far into Fire Red of Sapphire though.

Anyway I would like a good team that uses Electivire. Also my friends number one go to Pokemon is gonna be his Dragonite. Any help in a team would be greatly appreciated.

[ABYAY]

well, we need a little more information on what you want, but most Vires use this set.

Electivire @ Expert Belt
Lonely
252 atk/178spd/80sp.atk (I think that's the spread; correct me if I'm wrong.)
Cross Chop
Ice Punch
Thunderbolt
Earthquake

You'll need to attract electric users to get your Motor Drive boost. Gyarados is the best known partner of Electivire.

Gyarados@Focus Sash/Leftovers
Adamant nature
Unsure of EVs; someone can fill those in for me?

Waterfall/Ice Fang
Stone Edge/Earthquake
Dragon Dance
Taunt

Taunt to prevent you from being Roar'd out of the area after Dragon Dancing. If you fear a OHKO, go Focus Sash. If you go bulk, then go Leftovers. Use the above moves with one another (Waterfall and Stone Edge, Ice Fang and Earthquake) for best coverage.

To TBD_Leader: Rhyperior is best as a physical wall... Never expose to special attacks. Contents may melt.

Rhyperior@Leftovers
Impish nature
Solid Rock (IMPORTANT!)
252HP/252Def/6Atk

Swords Dance
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Avalanche/Hammer Arm/Megahorn

Unsure of last move; designed to fit where needed.

[evilcheese]

can i have a set for tentacruel?

[Spice Curry]

[Tentacruel] @ Black Sludge/Leftovers
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 68 HP / 252 Atk / 188 Spd <-- That's what I used when I was training a Tentacruel. Dunno how accurate it is however..
Ability: Clear Body
-Poison Jab
-Waterfall
-Swords Dance
-Knock Off/Substitute

Swords Dance and sweep. OR Sub, Swords Dance and sweep.

[shedinjask]

The problem with Scizor is that he lost a lot of speed, and most sweepers need speed in order to function properly, so despite the fact he is stronger (+20 Base Attack) the speed loss (-50 Base Speed) isn't worth it

Scizor gained a lot more than 20 base Attk. He got a lot better defenses and infinately better typing. Scizor can actually make use of a SD/Roost set.

[ABYAY]

Scyther -> Scizor stat changes.

+20 base attack
+20 base defense
-40 base speed.

As you can see, the evolution doesn't change its stats at all. It just alters it to a more defensive pokemon with a better typing. If you're wanting to go all out fury, Scyther's more suited for that. If you're looking for a Baton Passer/stat builder, Scizor's your pick.

[Shadowthinker]

Can i have a moveset for a Dialga?

[evilcheese]

Dialga @choice scarf
pressure
modest
evs: 252 SAtk /252 Spd /6 HP
-roar of time lolz! /dragon pulse
-thunderbolt
-earth power
-ice beam /flamethrower


i dont know just thought of it right now.

[Phoenix Rebirth]

Is there a moveset for spritomb as a tank?

[trtwiggy]

ABYAY thanks for the info. With the Gyrados I was wondering could I replace him maybe with Empoleon because that's what I started the game with and it won't let me switch him out will it?

Also if I have an Electivire then use the Empoleon to draw out his electric could I possibly use a Weavile with Ice Punch as a lead then fill in the other three slots with something else? Maybe use Dialga for one of the last three slots.

[Shiraishi]

Is there a moveset for spritomb as a tank?

Spiritomb@Leftovers**ggAzelf/Zam
Nature:Careful
Evs:252 HP/144 Atk/114 Sp. def
-Sucker Punch
-Taunt/Pursuit
-Pain split
-Will-O-Wisp/Hypnosis

[Arcknight316]

well, we need a little more information on what you want, but most Vires use this set.

Electivire @ Expert Belt
Lonely
252 atk/178spd/80sp.atk (I think that's the spread; correct me if I'm wrong.)
Cross Chop
Ice Punch
Thunderbolt
Earthquake

You'll need to attract electric users to get your Motor Drive boost. Gyarados is the best known partner of Electivire.

Gyarados@Focus Sash/Leftovers
Adamant nature
Unsure of EVs; someone can fill those in for me?

Waterfall/Ice Fang
Stone Edge/Earthquake
Dragon Dance
Taunt

Taunt to prevent you from being Roar'd out of the area after Dragon Dancing. If you fear a OHKO, go Focus Sash. If you go bulk, then go Leftovers. Use the above moves with one another (Waterfall and Stone Edge, Ice Fang and Earthquake) for best coverage.

To TBD_Leader: Rhyperior is best as a physical wall... Never expose to special attacks. Contents may melt.

Rhyperior@Leftovers
Impish nature
Solid Rock (IMPORTANT!)
252HP/252Def/6Atk

Swords Dance
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Avalanche/Hammer Arm/Megahorn

Unsure of last move; designed to fit where needed.

212 HP, 16 ATK, 180 DEF, 100 SPD for Gyara.

[ABYAY]

ABYAY thanks for the info. With the Gyrados I was wondering could I replace him maybe with Empoleon because that's what I started the game with and it won't let me switch him out will it?

Also if I have an Electivire then use the Empoleon to draw out his electric could I possibly use a Weavile with Ice Punch as a lead then fill in the other three slots with something else? Maybe use Dialga for one of the last three slots.

The problem with Empoleon is that its stats can make it a good special sponge, and somewhat steamroller as well. (I just use steamroller to specify slow, high-powered pokemon). The main issue is Magnezone and Magnet Pull. You won't be able to attract electric types if you can't escape. I still suggest Darkknight's Gyarados set.

[Goldenhammerhead]

ok i need a pokemon that can take a hit but can take a hit aswell soim thinking about using a rhyperoir

can someone give me a good moveset based off my needs?

i would go with a curselax.....great sp defence,decent att and awesome att and defence after one curse.im typing on the wii so can someone post the set?

[Spice Curry]

Someone ask for a Slaking moveset?

[Slaking] @Choice Band
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
-Return
-Earthquake
-Pursuit/Focus Punch
-Fire Punch

Hits a lot of things hard. Sucks he has Truant though, but eh.

[ABYAY]

Giga Impact with Slaking is also fun with Choice Band ^^

Alright, I've been planning a Tank set for Magnezone. I gave my friend one of these, although its EVs aren't quite the same, but it works rather nicely if it pulls its moves off.

Magnezone@Focus Sash
Modest nature
252 HP/180 def/72 sp. def (unsure of EVs for this set too)

Protect (scouting a moveset somewhat)
Thunderbolt
Mirror Coat
Flash Cannon

A non-hidden power set that basically tanks off a sp.atk and Mirror Coats back. Things that hope for a one-shot, think again. Any suggestions for a tanking Magnezone set? It's not designed to sponge anything, but it's to take a hit and deal back damage respectively. Modest nature to help out sp. atks.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Giga Impact with Slaking is also fun with Choice Band ^^

Alright, I've been planning a Tank set for Magnezone. I gave my friend one of these, although its EVs aren't quite the same, but it works rather nicely if it pulls its moves off.

Magnezone@Focus Sash
Modest nature
252 HP/180 def/72 sp. def (unsure of EVs for this set too)

Protect (scouting a moveset somewhat)
Thunderbolt
Mirror Coat
Flash Cannon

A non-hidden power set that basically tanks off a sp.atk and Mirror Coats back. Things that hope for a one-shot, think again. Any suggestions for a tanking Magnezone set? It's not designed to sponge anything, but it's to take a hit and deal back damage respectively. Modest nature to help out sp. atks.

Suicune does this quite a bit better, but if you're feeling lucky, go ahead and try it out. It would probably inflict some massive hurt with some skill.

[ABYAY]

Yeah my friend had this against Sk8 against Kingdra, then all of a sudden... this Mirror Coat came out against Hydro Pump and blew it to pieces. lol that's why I wanna try it. It's WONDERFUL late game when they have 1-2 pokemon.

[Eos Aduro]

Hey, can anybody give me a mixed wall/spinner Blastoise set? Im thinking of giving him a shot. And I cant think of anything. So far I have

Blastoise-Leftovers
???-???
Rapid Spin

So yeah.

[evilcheese]

blastoise @lefties
impish
torrent
252 HP / and even it out between sp.defense and defense
rapid spin / roar
waterfall /avalanche
rest / aqua ring
earthquake / toxic


dont know much about toise

[Shiraishi]

Aqua Jet is an option on physical 'Toise.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Blastoise (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Rapid Spin
- Toxic
- Rest
- Surf

My set of choice for blastoise.

[Vampy-Chan]

I need help on my battle tower team (soon to be)

i need help on their evs,nature,moveset,items,well mainly everything.

Breloom
Gallade
Altaria

[Arch_2008]

Ok, here is my current Battle tower team:

Gyarados @ Leftovers
Intimidate
EVs: 214 HP / 16 Atk / 180 Def / 100 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance
- Ice Fang
- Waterfall

Electrive @ Expert Belt
Adament Nature
Trait: Motor Drive
EVS: 252 Attack/ 252 Speed/ 6 HP
Moves:
- Thunder Punch
- Cross Chop
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch


Alakazam @ Expert Belt
Timid Nature
Trait: Synchronize
EVS: 252 Speed/ 252 Sp. Atk/ 6 HP
Moves:
- Psychic
- Focus Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Energy Ball


Now, i'd like to replace Gyarados as my leader, i'm looking at a mixed sweeper Blaziken, but i need some help with it, sorry if what i've got is very nooby:

Blaziken @Salac Berry
Quiet nature
- Flamethrower
- Fire Punch
- Swords Dance
- Reversal

well, that's what i've got, i don't think it's any good though

[evilcheese]

a mixed wall like bromzong or claydol could help

[Shiraishi]

Blaziken is no unless your running CS on it D: It won't survive to set up swords dance :/ Just use mixed-sweeper Infernape, it's deadly.

[ABYAY]

I need help with a tanking set for Glaceon that uses Toxic. I have Hail taken care of, and here's my expected plan.

Glaceon@Leftovers
Bold/Calm nature (more to Calm)
I have no idea on EVs here.

Ice Beam
Toxic
Protect
Mirror Coat

Basically a tank that can plow back with Mirror Coat. If anyone could suggest a similar set, let me know, but it must rest along tanking.

[Goldenhammerhead]

I need help with a tanking set for Glaceon that uses Toxic. I have Hail taken care of, and here's my expected plan.

Glaceon@Leftovers
Bold/Calm nature (more to Calm)
I have no idea on EVs here.

Ice Beam
Toxic
Protect
Mirror Coat

Basically a tank that can plow back with Mirror Coat. If anyone could suggest a similar set, let me know, but it must rest along tanking.

yeah go calm as glaceon akready has good def + you want the sp def to use mirror coat. And is your planning to use it with hail, maybe go bizzard (hail puts its accuracy to 100) and with STAB packing a power of 180!

[Iceangelwolf]

I need some help with Togekiss for my team. I was planning to train it as a supporter with Follow Me to allow some stat boosts for other team members, like Garchomp's Swords Dance etc. Togekiss has pretty good defense stats so is this a good plan? I also need help with the EVs.

Togekiss @ Light Clay
Bold Nature
EV ???

Follow Me
Reflect
Softboiled
Air Slash

Because Togekiss is usually used as sweeper, I thought this would be a nice surprise.

[CoolTrainerXtasy]

REQUESTING HELP WITH TEAM



Gyra@Life Orb
Adament
252 Attack 252 Speed

Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Earthquake
Taunt

Electvire
Cross Chop
Ice Punch
Earthquake
Thunder Punch


Snorlax.... need help with everything


Genger@ quick claw to get weavile?
unsure of nature... something that increase speed

Shadow Ball
Focus blast or punch? basically for killing weavils
psychic: unsure of this move better suggustions
Destiny bond: my friends are noob battlers and will fall for it




Thats the team so far, it leaves open a special defense wall, and basically and annoyer/ wall

My idea for the special wall is (i dont want blissey


Shuckle
252 defense 252 special defense 6 hp

Toxic
rest
double team
substitute




And the annoyer role, really open to suggustions here, oh would this team be competitive?

Am i relying to much on physical?

not exactly sure the role snorlax has in my team... the things i have in my team already im not keen on changing but i wnat some balence and to be competitve etc

please help

[Red X]

WHat EV's and nature would you suggest for Magmortar
I was thinking

Special Sweeper

Magmortar@Choice Specs
Nature: Modest
EVs:252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP.
Nature: Flame Body

- Fire Blast
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast
- Psychic

[MatterX]

WHat EV's and nature would you suggest for Magmortar
I was thinking

Special Sweeper

Magmortar@Choice Specs
Nature: Modest
EVs:252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP.
Nature: Flame Body

- Fire Blast
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast
- Psychic

How about this moveset?

Flamethrower
Sunny Day
Solarbeam
Psychic/Thunderbolt

[Olz.]

Whats a good Porygon/Porygon2/Porygon-Z Set?


I'm not the best at them :(

[Dark_Azelf]

Whats a good Porygon/Porygon2/Porygon-Z Set?


I'm not the best at them :(

Porygon-z@Choice Scarf
Modest Nature
252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
Trait : Adaptability
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Dark Pulse
- Tri Attack

[Olz.]

Porygon-z@Choice Scarf
Modest Nature
252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
Trait : Adaptability
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Dark Pulse
- Tri Attack


Thanks!! This will help alot!

[Dark_Azelf]

Thanks!! This will help alot!

Theres also the Nasty Plot set, i should of mentioned this in my last post.

Porygon-z@Life Orb
Timid Nature
252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
Trait : Adaptability
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt / Hidden power Fighting
- Nasty Plot
- Tri Attack.

[CoolTrainerXtasy]

whats the counter to the proygon above, my friends gotone, to take my gyrados and im yet to get one to take his

[bloo14]

good electivre and altaria moveset

[CoolTrainerXtasy]

good electivre and altaria moveset

electvire counters porygon?

[Dark_Azelf]

electvire counters porygon?

No. Blissey is probably your best bet of staying alive. Even that gets hurt badly from the Nasty plot set.

[ABYAY]

yeah go calm as glaceon akready has good def + you want the sp def to use mirror coat. And is your planning to use it with hail, maybe go bizzard (hail puts its accuracy to 100) and with STAB packing a power of 180!

Well, I guess I could use 3 of my PP Ups on Blizzard (love high level pickupers), and there's always that unlikliness of them altering the weather... Abomasnow can't always keep the Hail going unless I continuously swap em out. due to fighting types just ripping my team into like... a thousand. I have Froslass to stop fighting and Scarf'd Tri-Attacks from Pory-Z. (Had a nasty run-in a few days ago against it.)

[bloo14]

good electivre and altaria moveset?

[ABYAY]

Altaria I can't assist on... Electivire is everyone's favorite.

Electivire@Expert Belt/Life Orb
Adamant/Lonely nature (See below)
Forgot the EV spread; someone can fill that in.

Cross Chop
Ice Punch
Thunderpunch/Thunderbolt (If you go T-bolt, go Lonely and put some speed EVs into sp. atk instead.)
Earthquake

[bloo14]

Altaria I can't assist on... Electivire is everyone's favorite.

Electivire@Expert Belt/Life Orb
Adamant/Lonely nature (See below)
Forgot the EV spread; someone can fill that in.

Cross Chop
Ice Punch
Thunderpunch/Thunderbolt (If you go T-bolt, go Lonely and put some speed EVs into sp. atk instead.)
Earthquake

cross chop is a egg move right

[iLike2EatPiez]

I used PBR to get the Surfing Pikachu (I'm evolving it when it has learned all I'll want), but I'm not sure what moves to give it other than that. Its nature came out Hardy, so it's got no particular stat boost. What's a good sweeping moveset for it, keeping Surf? Also not sure whether to make it a Special, Physical, or Mixed sweeper...

[ABYAY]

Ice Punch is as well; breed with Machamp with Ice Punch to get it, which can be acquired from breeding with Medicham/Hitmonchan. I have a Machamp with both I don't use too much anymore.

[PlayaFritz]

Hey Im looking for a Tanking Probopass, I know he ain't that great, but I think he has potential.
I'm thinking,

Probopass@Leftovers
Not really sure about Ev's
-Thunder
-Flash Canon
-Magnet rise
-Toxic

Still not sure, open to all crictisism. Thanks

[Eos Aduro]

His 4x weak to fighting and ground make him pretty much unworkable. It would be almost impossible to do.

[PlayaFritz]

Thats what Magnet Rise is for -.-
Though with Magnet Pull, and great defencces im sure he is good for somthing, Skarm?

[Spice Curry]

[Altaria]@ Life Orb
Nature: Adamant
EVs: Sorry, I really have no clue
Ability: Natural Cure
-Dragon Dance
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Roost

EDIT: This is for someone on the previous page I believe?

[ABYAY]

Ah, Probopass... that son of a gun... without support and something to absorb fighting/ground (Gengar is great for assistance, or if you want a lil more defensive, Mismagius.) Magnet Pull is very useful. Thunder Wave is a necessity to assist its horrid speed. I don't know EVs, but a potential moveset could be...

Magnet Rise
Thunder Wave
Thunder/T-bolt
Earth Power/Flash Cannon (Earth Power stops Magz from walling you down unless it rises... then a stall war begins.)

[Lumine]

Trying to be different with Milotic

Milotic @ Leftovers
Bold
EVs: 252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SP DEF
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-Dragon Pulse
-Surf

(Not going with Hypnosis cause I'm an accuracy freak)

Moves are self explanatory..

Good nuff?

[Olz.]

Need a good moveset for gengar with a hasty nature >.<

[Lady Nicole]

Need a good moveset for gengar with a hasty nature >.<

Why Hasty? Timid is better :)

[Dark_Azelf]

Need a good moveset for gengar with a hasty nature >.<


Gengar@Life Orb
Hasty Nature
204 Atk / 54 Sp.A / 252 Speed
~ Explosion
~ Thunderbolt
~ Shadow Ball
~ Focus Punch / Hidden power ice

Focus Punch 2hkos blissey, OHKo's Tyranitar and weavile.

Explosion OHKo's blissey 100% of the time.

Other moves are for coverage and STAB.

[Shiraishi]

Azelf, whats that Sub-passing Vappy you used in your battle log? I wanna steal use it. :D

[Dark_Azelf]

Azelf, whats that Sub-passing Vappy you used in your battle log? I wanna steal use it. :D

Oh that, its freeking godly.

Vaporeon@Leftovers
188 HP / 252 DEF / 70 SP.DEF
Bold Nature
Trait : Water Absorb
- Surf / Hidden power Electric
- Wish
- Substitute
- Baton Pass

Yeah it passes Wish and 101 HP Subs, good to pass these subs to Dragon Dancers and Nasty plotters and frail things that cant usually switch in easilly such as weavile gengar and infernape.. Even if your opponent breaks the sub on the turn you baton pass you get a free switch in as Baton Pass counts as a turn so its a win - win situation. Its hard to do but you can pass subs and a Wish but usually its just one or the other. Wish is great aswell if you use a wall without a reliable healing move such as donphan etc. Its even an awesome Gyarados counter if you want to lack a STAB move and go Hidden power electric which 2hkos Gyarados who will try and taunt you to stop the baton pass and can only 3hko you after a dragon dance and Vaporeon is immune to its strongest STAB move Waterfall due to water absorb ,Surf is generally the better option >> hidden power Electric though just because of STAB.

[MegamanTrinity]

I am a total newbie... but im looking for a good team to ease through the battle tower a few hundred times, lol. this is what i have. sadly, all my pokemon need fixed movesets.

Quirky umbreon
Impish Gallade
Docile Dragonair
Calm Charizard
Docile Starmie~~~Ice Beam, Psychic, Thunderbolt, Surf
(closest thing to a good moveset)


HELP!!!!!!!! what can I do, can I get some advise on new natures and good movesets? Again ill combat flames... I am a total newbie. so I need all the help I can get.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

I am a total newbie... but im looking for a good team to ease through the battle tower a few hundred times, lol. this is what i have. sadly, all my pokemon need fixed movesets.

Quirky umbreon
Impish Gallade
Docile Dragonair
Calm Charizard
Docile Starmie~~~Ice Beam, Psychic, Thunderbolt, Surf
(closest thing to a good moveset)


HELP!!!!!!!! what can I do, can I get some advise on new natures and good movesets? Again ill combat flames... I am a total newbie. so I need all the help I can get.

Nuetral natures suck, rid of them at once! If you want a REALLY good attacking Starmie for the battle tower, check out:

Starmie @ Choice Specs / Life Orb
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Grass Knot / Psychic

Modest since power > speed in battle tower IMO.

[MegamanTrinity]

are you saying I should ditch psychic for grass knot, or you saying i could use either? also choice specs look bad reading what they do in game, can you only use one move if your wearing them?

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

are you saying I should ditch psychic for grass knot, or you saying i could use either? also choice specs look bad reading what they do in game, can you only use one move if your wearing them?

You use one move, but the power increase is HUGE. For example, a Tyranitar holding choice Band can kill skarmory in two hits. THAT'S saying something.

You can just switch out and then you have freedom to use any move again. Life Orb is an option if you don't like the choice affect.

Psychic or Grass Knot. I prefer Grass Knot for the likes of swampert, but anything will work. If you use psychic, I'd go timid nature as its main use is killing gengar, and it needs timid to outspeed.

[shedinjask]

Milotic @ Leftovers
Bold
EVs: 252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SP DEF
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-Dragon Pulse
-Surf

Ice Beam over Dragon Pulse and more SDef.

[bloo14]

how about a moveset for timid arcanine?

[shedinjask]

Timid Arcanine is bad. Trash it.

[ABYAY]

Alright, some of you may have kept track of my old topic, ABY's Sandstorm Trauma, mentioning Cradily. I've been thinking about it a lot lately, but I can't decide on the last move. It's a special sponge in a sandstorm team.

Recover
Stealth Rock
Rock Slide (I still need a RS TM)
Earthquake/Toxic/Mirror Coat (These 3 have advantages that are keys. Earthquake deals damage to Steels and rocks that could wall me somewhat, as well as putting some damage on the nasty Electivire. Toxic gives me control over Dusknoir and many other non-steel walls that don't have Synchronize. Mirror Coat is major punishment to those sp. sweepers that try to take me out in 2 blows, only to be crushed by the coat. It's great against the almighty SpecsMence, who's Intimidate has left my attack shot in the dust.)

It's a tough choice; what way should I go?

[Kirioroshi]

I was looking into this Moveset for a Garchomp to use in Battle Tower or competitive battles.

Garchomp @ Life Orb
Jolly
252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 Hp
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Outrage
-Fire Fang

would that work?

[Ayano Katagiri]

Hello~
Seeing as I still can't breed out a Jolly Infernape for CB'Nape... I'm going to switch it for Mixape and see if that's any better.

So, what would be a moveset for Mix'ape??
(Preferably would like it to have T-punch since all the eggs I've already hatched have it)

[PhoenixFlare]

Hello~
Seeing as I still can't breed out a Jolly Infernape for CB'Nape... I'm going to switch it for Mixape and see if that's any better.

So, what would be a moveset for Mix'ape??
(Preferably would like it to have T-punch since all the eggs I've already hatched have it)

I'm terrible at EVs but.

Thunderpunch/ Flare blitz/ Flamethrower
Close combat
Grass knot
Nasty plot

That should be its moveset.

[Destiny100]

WHat place should riolu/luacrio have eg physcal sweeper... or something.
What moves it should it have?
As i have no - idea

[Waker of Chaos]

WHat place should riolu/luacrio have eg physcal sweeper... or something.
What moves it should it have?
As i have no - idea

Riolu is not to be used for battling. Its evolved form, Lucario, is a great special sweeper, though. Lucario can also be used as a physical sweeper, or a mixed sweeper with Me First (this is probably novelty though).

[Destiny100]

Riolu is not to be used for battling. Its evolved form, Lucario, is a great special sweeper, though. Lucario can also be used as a physical sweeper, or a mixed sweeper with Me First (this is probably novelty though).

I only have a lvl 1 riolu (female) impish atm.
If physical/special
what moves should it have?

[bloo14]

Timid Arcanine is bad. Trash it.

aLRIGHT

but im looking for am arcanine thats super fast to attack

[PlayaFritz]

Tanking Gliscor anyone? Thanks xD

[ABYAY]

Tanking Gliscor... my god Playa you're a tank user. lol this is the common sponge that I see.

Gliscor@ the all-obvious leftovers.
Impish
252 def/252 HP/6 atk.

Roost
Knock Off
Stealth Rock
Earthquake/Aerial Ace

I THINK this is the set, but there are other slight variations.

[PlayaFritz]

Lol, I know I am. Thx, I was thinking somthing along those lines.

[AppleJ]

I am looking for a moveset for Magnezone. It should be a physical wall

[ABYAY]

Magnezone as a physical wall... this is a tough one actually. I can see Magz as a mixed tank more than a physical wall. A mixed wall I love is this

Calm Nature

Thunderbolt
Flash Cannon/Hidden Power Ice/Ground
Protect/Reflect/Light Screen
Mirror Coat

Mirror Coat is designed to hit those power sp. hitters (Starmie, Gengar, various others). T-bolt and Flash Cannon to hit back with a lot of power, and a quick way out of having to use Hidden Power.

I'm not a complete Magz expert, but I like it a lot.

[Angelic Diablo]

aLRIGHT

but im looking for am arcanine thats super fast to attack

That would be Jolly your after then...

Arcanine@Choice Band
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
-Extremespeed
-Flare Blitz
-Thunderfang
-Crunch

[PokeFanatic12698]

"BellyZard" Any body? I'm currently EV training one myself but, i'd like to see suggestions for it's moveset.

[shadow_ki6]

haven't been here in months..

would someone please help me out with cherrim? please

i was thinking of

cherrim@lefties/???
nature: ???
evs: ???
moveset:
-sunny day
-solarbeam
-protect
-leech seed??

plz keep in mind that ill be using cherrim in double battles

[AlexPokemon]

Well my thread was closed :( And I probably wont get any help here!! So Here's what I posted
I was really getting bored of pearl by now, but I thought I'd try and make a good competetive team!
But I want to do something new, with Pokemon not generally used much... None of these Blisseys and annoying 'LA DI DA SUBSTITUTE SUBSTITUTE SUBSTITUTE' pokemon!!
Okeys, so I decides to get me some Pokemon... Here's what I'm thinking.
Azelf
Snorlax
Houndoom
Dugtrio
Porygon - Z
Dusknoir

I think it sounds like a reasonable line up. Here's what I need y'all help on
EV TRAINING - Thing is, I don't know the first thing about these, so I'll need A LOT over here
MOVESETS - I have pretty much every TM, and if you've got suggestions over here then you might want to give me a hand in....
STRATEGIES - Speaks for itself, dunnit?
THE POKEMON IN THE TEAM - I like the ones I've got now, but if you think something would be better then I'm all listening

Now you help.
I'm making it a OU team just not an all too common OU team because someone thought I was doing UU... so HELP PLEASE!!

[PhoenixFlare]

Well my thread was closed :( And I probably wont get any help here!! So Here's what I posted

I'm making it a OU team just not an all too common OU team because someone thought I was doing UU... so HELP PLEASE!!

Dugtrio@ choice band/ scarf
252spd/ 252atk/ 6hp
Adamant
-Stone edge
-Earthquake
-Aerial ace
-Sucker punch


Azelf@ salac berry
252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
Modest/ Timid
-Nasty plot
-Hidden Power Fighting
-Psychic
-Thunderbolt

Those are the two I know.

[Shiraishi]

Azelf doesn't need Salac berry, it's fast enough ._. Perhaps Life orb?

[shedinjask]

Lol Sub clause.

Anyways, what was that set... ah BellyZard.

Charizard @ Salac Berry
252 Attk/252 Spd/4 HP -- Adamant
Fire Punch
Belly Drum
Double-Edge
Earthquake

You switch into something you scare off, BD on the switch, and Double-Edge to put you into Salac range. Then sweep.

[Destiny100]

Ok i'm totally blank about what my phyiscal sweeper and special sweeper should be.
I was hoping Lucario was my mixed and Espeon for special

Lucario would probably be Lonely/Naughty Nature
252 Attack Ev
120 Spc Att Ev
138 Speed Ev

Espeon would probably be Mild/Modest/Rash Nature
252 Spc Att Ev
252 Speed Ev
6 Hp Ev

No Idea what they should hold. If you think this is bad please say so

[Dark_Azelf]

Dugtrio@ choice band/ scarf
252spd/ 252atk/ 6hp
Adamant
-Stone edge
-Earthquake
-Aerial ace
-Sucker punch


Azelf@ salac berry
252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
Modest/ Timid
-Nasty plot
-Hidden Power Fighting
-Psychic
-Thunderbolt

Those are the two I know.

=o


Azelf@life Orb / Wise Glasses / Leftovers / Expert Belt
TIMID Nature
252 SP.ATT / 220 SPEED / 38 HP
- Nasty Plot
- Flamethrower
- Psychic
- Grass Knot / Hidden power Fighting / Thunderbolt


Needs Flamethrower so steels dont lol

Last Moveslot is for heatran and T-tar disposal,Hidden power Fighting is preferred although Grass Knot is good for t-tar if you cant get hidden power.


T-Bolt is good for bulky waters, Starmie, Gyarados and hits Togekiss harder although it doesn't do much for azelf apart from that.

Needs TIMID always

[AppleJ]

Magnezone as a physical wall... this is a tough one actually. I can see Magz as a mixed tank more than a physical wall. A mixed wall I love is this

Calm Nature

Thunderbolt
Flash Cannon/Hidden Power Ice/Ground
Protect/Reflect/Light Screen
Mirror Coat

Mirror Coat is designed to hit those power sp. hitters (Starmie, Gengar, various others). T-bolt and Flash Cannon to hit back with a lot of power, and a quick way out of having to use Hidden Power.

I'm not a complete Magz expert, but I like it a lot.

Magnezone isn`t able to lear Mirror Coat.

btw: Does anybody konw what the best way is how Rotom is played

[ABYAY]

Magnezone isn`t able to lear Mirror Coat.

btw: Does anybody konw what the best way is how Rotom is played

Oh? Mine has Mirror Coat; While being a Magnezone, simply go to the move tutor with a Heart Scale. Then, you'll see Mirror Coat.

Rotom... no idea there.

[Spice Curry]

I've seen Rotom used with Trick. Lemme dig out the moveset for ya:

[Rotom] @Choice Specs
Nature: Timid
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Ability: Levitate
-Thunderbolt
-Shadow Ball
-Trick
-Hidden Power [Ice]

And another one someone asked for:

[Cherrim] @ Hot Rock
Nature: Modest
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Ability: Flower Gift
-Sunny Day/Solar Beam (2 vs 2 only)
-Energy Ball/Toxic
-Hidden Power [Fire]
-Grasswhistle/ Aromatherapy/ Protect

Cherrim sucks on its own: he needs a good teammate to work effectively. Which is probably why people use him more in Double Battles with a teammate who can Sunny Day (using Groudon and Cherrim in conjunction, for example). But if you're doing old One on one, stick with Sunny Day.
Grasswhistle sucks I know, but its not like he's got many other useful options. I just slapped on Aromatherapy because its a possible option. Although you should only use it if you're...like...desperate. Protect is probably the best option, if you hate hax.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Just confirming that Magnezone can indeed learn mirror coat.

Moveset for Torterra please.

[Eos Aduro]

Hrmm, sims used to have his Terra set, but Im not sure what that was exactly. I'll try a Sub-Seeder

Torterra-Leftovers/Yache Berry
Impish-200 HP, 158 Def, 152 Attack
Substitute
Leech Seed
Earthquake
Crunch/Seed Bomb/Stone Edge

[shadow_ki6]

ok i was too lazy to make a UU team...
so ive decided that i want to sandstorm-trick room team..

the pokemon that it consists are

bronzong
tyranitar
cursepert
cradily (need a build)
...

im currently looking for 2 sp.sweeper

ps. will this team fail. if so please state why

thank you

[PhoenixFlare]

ok i was too lazy to make a UU team...
so ive decided that i want to sandstorm-trick room team..

the pokemon that it consists are

bronzong
tyranitar
cursepert
cradily (need a build)
...

im currently looking for 2 sp.sweeper

ps. will this team fail. if so please state why

thank you

Wow you're real congident in yourself.

Hm special sweepers in a sandstorm team theres..... Empoleon....Scarfed Heatran... hm dunno.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Wow you're real congident in yourself.

Hm special sweepers in a sandstorm team theres..... Empoleon....Scarfed Heatran... hm dunno.

Yeah, you can't really make a UU team with BL and OU pokemon (anybody who argues BL WILL get a lecture).

But good UU pokemon to consider for your team would be:

-Nidoking
-Hypno
-Grumpig
-Raichu
-Poliwrath
-Gligar
-Vileplume
-Nidoqueen
-Blastoise
-Mantine

There are some good UUers to experiment with.

[Ambient]

I was wondering what moveset for my Machoke (soon to be a Machamp)
Physical Sweeper
Nature: Lonely
Ability: Guts
EVs :-

6 HP
252 Atk
252 Spd


It's shiny aswell :) (I caught it myself)

It has to be able to knock out Steel/Rock/Dark/Ice types, Fire, Flying

Much Appreciated whoever does this

[Tortured_Soul]

Machamp@Life Orb
Adamant
No Guard
252 Atk, 252 HP, 6 Def

Dynamic Punch
Thunderpunch
Ice Punch
Earthquake

Trick Room team FYI.

~M51

[Vettore]

I'm looking to add two Pokemon into my team, one acting as a physical and the other as a special wall. :)

Physical Wall

I'm thinking about using this so far. :)

Skamory
Impish
Drill Peck
Roar / Whirlwind
Spikes
Rest

I'm not sure about EV's, but I'm thinking about giving most of them to HP and Defence, and a few to Attack. :)

Although I'm thinking about using Umbreon or Weezing, but I'm not sure how to treat them. Could somebody please help me with a moveset and the EV's? :)

Special Wall

I'm going for Blissey. :)

Blissey
Bold
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Seismic Toss
Stealth Rock

If I go with Skamory, should I replace Stealth Rock with Thunder Wave?

The EV's will be split between HP and Defence, with any remaining in Special Attack. :)

[Dark_Azelf]

I'm looking to add two Pokemon into my team, one acting as a physical and the other as a special wall. :)

Physical Wall

I'm thinking about using this so far. :)

Skamory
Impish
Drill Peck
Roar / Whirlwind
Spikes
Rest

I'm not sure about EV's, but I'm thinking about giving most of them to HP and Defence, and a few to Attack. :)

Although I'm thinking about using Umbreon or Weezing, but I'm not sure how to treat them. Could somebody please help me with a moveset and the EV's? :)

Special Wall

I'm going for Blissey. :)

Blissey
Bold
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Seismic Toss
Stealth Rock

If I go with Skamory, should I replace Stealth Rock with Thunder Wave?

The EV's will be split between HP and Defence, with any remaining in Special Attack. :)



Skarmory@Shed Shell
Impish nature
252 HP / 196 DEF / 60 ATT
- Brave Bird / Drill Peck
- Spikes / Stealth Rock
- Roost
- Whirlwind

Brave Bird is your only hope against Taunt Gyarados. Drill Peck is there if the recoil is off putting, but i prefer Brave Bird, it really packs a punch and does quite a bit of damage when called for.

Shed Shell allows you to escape Magnezone who will otherwise trap you and lol.

Roost is 100% needed, its Skarmorys instant heal move, Rest is generally not good gen unless theres nothing better, due to there being things that can 2hko you in your sleep, Swords Dance Chomps Fire Fang for instance. This is not advance anymore and Skarm cannot afford to waste turns waking up.


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Blissey@Leftovers
Bold Nature
148 HP / 252 DEF / 104 SP.ATT / 4 SP.DEF
Trait : Natural Cure
- Ice Beam
- Aromatherapy /Thunderwave
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled

This has more things to worry about than setting up Stealth Rock. Teach it to Skarm or something else. What should it be worrying about you ask ? Garchomp and Bulky ground types who switch in predicting a Thunderwave and being able to set up on you, Ice Beam makes them feel pain, the former will see it as an oppertunity for a free swords dance, well not with ice Beam it wont. Also i know its rare but McGar and versions of it (Sub-Punching Gengar) will have a chance to focus punch you if you DONT run Ice Beam.With ice Beam you fail focus punch and its attempts to 2hko you.

[shedinjask]

Stone Edge over EQ, Brave over Adamant, and Lefties or CB over Life Orb.

Machamp is meant to be bulky.

[PhoenixFlare]

This is for PBR to have two strategies to switch between to keep my opponent guessing and I need a final pokemon but unsure on it anyway here's my team.

Ludicolo@ leftovers
204hp/ 76spatk/ 228spdef
Bold
Rain Dish
-Sunny day
-Rain dance
-Leech seed
-Ice beam

Always put in front to manipulate the weather either way Ice beam because its unaffected by weather changes but if I can I'll try to get Hidden Power Ground to help with my undenyable Vire weak.

Kabutops@ choice band
252spd/ 252atk/ 4hp
Adamant
Swift Swim
-Brick Break
-Aerial Ace
-Stone edge
-Waterfall

Says hi to both Hera and Weavile.

Dewgong@ leftovers
252hp/ 252spdef/ 4def
Calm
Hydration
-Surf
-Ice beam
-Encore
-Rest

Manaphys ability is shared by this making it an amazing special wall.

Exeggutor@ salac berry
252spd/ 252spatk/ 4hp
Modest
Chlorophyll
-Solarbeam
-Explosion
-Sleep powder
-Psychic

Will try to get Hidden Power Ice over Psychic.

Vileplume@ black sludge
252hp/ 136def/ 128spdef
Calm
Chlorophyll
-Substitute
-Leech seed
-Sludge bomb
-Sleep powder

Thinking of investing speed EVs for it to outrun during sunshine but not sure.

For the last one a pokemon that can't be hit by Explosion or one with protect.

Thanks.

[Goldenhammerhead]

This is for PBR to have two strategies to switch between to keep my opponent guessing and I need a final pokemon but unsure on it anyway here's my team.

Ludicolo@ leftovers
204hp/ 76spatk/ 228spdef
Bold
Rain Dish
-Sunny day
-Rain dance
-Leech seed
-Ice beam

Always put in front to manipulate the weather either way Ice beam because its unaffected by weather changes but if I can I'll try to get Hidden Power Ground to help with my undenyable Vire weak.

Kabutops@ choice band
252spd/ 252atk/ 4hp
Adamant
Swift Swim
-Brick Break
-Aerial Ace
-Stone edge
-Waterfall

Says hi to both Hera and Weavile.

Dewgong@ leftovers
252hp/ 252spdef/ 4def
Calm
Hydration
-Surf
-Ice beam
-Encore
-Rest

Manaphys ability is shared by this making it an amazing special wall.

Exeggutor@ salac berry
252spd/ 252spatk/ 4hp
Modest
Chlorophyll
-Solarbeam
-Explosion
-Sleep powder
-Psychic

Will try to get Hidden Power Ice over Psychic.

Vileplume@ black sludge
252hp/ 136def/ 128spdef
Calm
Chlorophyll
-Substitute
-Leech seed
-Sludge bomb
-Sleep powder

Thinking of investing speed EVs for it to outrun during sunshine but not sure.

For the last one a pokemon that can't be hit by Explosion or one with protect.

Thanks.

you want gengar....levitate and ghost.

[Tortured_Soul]

This is for PBR to have two strategies to switch between to keep my opponent guessing and I need a final pokemon but unsure on it anyway here's my team.

Ludicolo@ leftovers
204hp/ 76spatk/ 228spdef
Bold
Rain Dish
-Sunny day
-Rain dance
-Leech seed
-Ice beam

Always put in front to manipulate the weather either way Ice beam because its unaffected by weather changes but if I can I'll try to get Hidden Power Ground to help with my undenyable Vire weak.

Kabutops@ choice band
252spd/ 252atk/ 4hp
Adamant
Swift Swim
-Brick Break
-Aerial Ace
-Stone edge
-Waterfall

Says hi to both Hera and Weavile.

How exactly? Both outspeed it and both run super effective hits.

Dewgong@ leftovers
252hp/ 252spdef/ 4def
Calm
Hydration
-Surf
-Ice beam
-Encore
-Rest

Manaphys ability is shared by this making it an amazing special wall.

Exeggutor@ salac berry
252spd/ 252spatk/ 4hp
Modest
Chlorophyll
-Solarbeam
-Explosion
-Sleep powder
-Psychic

Will try to get Hidden Power Ice over Psychic.

Vileplume@ black sludge
252hp/ 136def/ 128spdef
Calm
Chlorophyll
-Substitute
-Leech seed
-Sludge bomb
-Sleep powder

Thinking of investing speed EVs for it to outrun during sunshine but not sure.

For the last one a pokemon that can't be hit by Explosion or one with protect.

Thanks.

I really didn't feel like rating sorry, but something stuck out...

~T_S

[PhoenixFlare]

I really didn't feel like rating sorry, but something stuck out...

~T_S

Swift Swim lets him kill them.

you want gengar....levitate and ghost.

Alright then going to make it Wide lens Standard for him. Because I'm an accuracy freak.

[johnnykenny1234]

can i suggest a spread and moveset for a modest scarf heatran

[Dark_Azelf]

can i suggest a spread and moveset for a modest scarf heatran

Heatran@ Choice Scarf
Modest Nature
20 HP / 252 SpA / 236 Speed
Trait : Flash Fire
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power Ice
- Earth Power
- Explosion


236 EVs will hit 373 Speed if you're using Choice Scarf, which is enough to beat + Speed Dugtrio, Sceptile and Alakazam. Whom youll OHKO with Fire Blast

Fire Blast for STAB.

Hidden power Ice for Dragons.

Earth Power for general good coverage

Explosion is useful When Heatran is close to fainting, you can use Explosion to take out another Pokémon or use it to take out idiot special walls, but bear in mind it wont OHKO.

it will do

Defender HP: 714
Damage: 547 - 644
Damage: 76.61% - 90.20%

To a full health 252 HP/ 252 DEF Bold Blissey

Make Blissey take residual damage like spikes and Stealth Rock and/or make take other damage before you explode on it.

[Shiraishi]

Dragon Pulse can replace HP [Ice] if this is for wi-fi.

[johnnykenny1234]

thanks azelf, very detailed and very helpful

[Archer]

OK, i just hatched a Jolly Sneasel with Flawless Atk and Spd. It also has Ice Punch.
~Although i spent ages trying to get this sneasel, i didn't plan a moveset, so i was wondering how this is.

Weavile @Expert Belt/Life Orb
Jolly | 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
~Ice Punch
~Night Slash
~Brick Break
~Aerial Ace/Ice Shard.

I will rebreed for a revenge killer with pursuit later. I want to make this a Unchoiced sweeper.

[Gelsamel]

Hi guys, I need a Battle Tower (just farming BP points) team that includes...


Yuki The Gardevoir @Leftovers
Nature: Timid
Ability: Trace
EVs: 56 HP / 252 SpA / 200 Spe
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt
- Wish

What can I get to counter her weaknesses or support her?

Only restriction is I have absolutely to little BP (why I'm making this team) and I can't get Emerald Tutor Moves.

[Chompah :x]

Sceptile moveset please :]
Im think Subseed then ToxiProtect.

[Dark_Azelf]

OK, i just hatched a Jolly Sneasel with Flawless Atk and Spd. It also has Ice Punch.
~Although i spent ages trying to get this sneasel, i didn't plan a moveset, so i was wondering how this is.

Weavile @Expert Belt/Life Orb
Jolly | 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
~Ice Punch
~Night Slash
~Brick Break
~Aerial Ace/Ice Shard.

I will rebreed for a revenge killer with pursuit later. I want to make this a Unchoiced sweeper.

Ewww, it ISNT a revenge killer without choice band and fails to do enough damage without.=/

Weavile@Choice Band
Jolly Nature
252 ATT / 216 SPEED / 40 HP
- Ice Shard
- Night Slash
- Pursuit
- Brick break

Max speed is redundant due to you getting speed ties, 216 speed evs lets you outspeed max speed + speed nature Alakazam, Sceptile and Dugtrio.40 HP evs allow you to, at worst, switch directly into an unboosted Azelfs Flamethrower and live.

Ice Shard >> ice Punch, it gives you the advantage >> Ice Punch against things that Dragon Dance, such as Salamence and Dragonite, it also OHKO's Garchomp, the latter will cause an Ice Shard -less weavile problems with the ever common Choice Scarf variants around every corner.

Night Slash is your main STAB, it wrecks Cresselia and Dusknoir if they are stupid enough to stay in expecting a pursuit.

Pursuit gives this set its main revenge kill status, OHKO's Azelf, Gengar and Alakazam should they stay in or switch out, so its a win win situation ( bear in mind if Azelf stays in and tries to take a pursuit, it must have at least 32 hp evs to live a Pursuit when it doesnt switch). It also ohkos Starmie if it switches.

Brick Break is for coverage against steels who wall you such as Heatran, its also useful against other weavile and Tyranitar.



if you really must, use a life orb, but it fails to OHKO alot of stuff.

[Cuddle_Killer0]

I am adding two pokemon to my team

Dual Wall-Bronzong
and
Kingdra... i dont no exactly what i am making him yet but he is for an all dragon team so... any suggestions on move sets, and EV's?

[Cascoon is EPIC]

may i reuest a full support articuno , only one offensive move so it doent get walled by taunt

[ABYAY]

I'm looking for some great E-Vire counters that I can pretty much train on the spot (as in, something that won't take me an eternity to breed for or have to get access to.)

TBD, I know Arty runs Calm, but unsure of EVs. I know that Ice Beam and Roost are the necessities, and if you have access, Heal Bell.

[Dark_Azelf]

I'm looking for some great E-Vire counters that I can pretty much train on the spot (as in, something that won't take me an eternity to breed for or have to get access to.)

TBD, I know Arty runs Calm, but unsure of EVs. I know that Ice Beam and Roost are the necessities, and if you have access, Heal Bell.

E-Vire Counters ?

Which sort, Physical or mixed ?

Cresselia and Dusknoir is best to wall the mixed one. (As in T-Bolt / Flamethrower or Ice Punch /Cross Chop /Hidden power Grass.)

Donphan, Swampert, Forretress, Dusknoir and Cressy all lol at physical VIre. (As in T-Bolt or Punch / Ice Punch / Earthquake / Cross Chop)

[Cascoon is EPIC]

E-Vire Counters ?

Which sort, Physical or mixed ?

Cresselia is best to wall the mixed one.

Donphan, Swampert, Forretress, all lol at physical VIre.


ya most people run a mixedvire so people dont lol at it ...... , pyscical< mixed . I know it can heal bell , but do you think tailwind is any useful?

[ABYAY]

Well D. Azelf, you should breed me one of that Duskull sometime that I traded you. I really need a mixed wall to deal with some situations, and I don't have access to Cressy. (Mine was Docile and I traded over GTS.)

Thanks for the suggestions.

[Cascoon is EPIC]

you need a dual wall , why dont you use something like umbreon he can be a very versitle wall and setups up nice counter due to trap passing

[Dark_Azelf]

Well D. Azelf, you should breed me one of that Duskull sometime that I traded you. I really need a mixed wall to deal with some situations, and I don't have access to Cressy. (Mine was Docile and I traded over GTS.)

Thanks for the suggestions.

Hhaha, yeah ill go on a breeding project for you once i get my Wifi back.

I may be coming across a good Bold cressy soon, ill get it cloned for you. ;)

you need a dual wall , why dont you use something like umbreon he can be a very versitle wall and setups up nice counter due to trap passing

Umbreon dies to Vires Cross Chop though.

[ABYAY]

I'm just needing an E-Vire counter since it's one of the few things that threatens my team at this point. Chomp's also posing a problem, so I may drop CB Scyther (that thing's a beast when it works. because quick speed + Technician really do damage.) I do have Milotic, but its EV spread is still bleh. (more mixed defensively, but a wonderful Rest-talker) I'll think about it.

[Cascoon is EPIC]

may i reuest a full support articuno , only one offensive move so it doent get walled by taunt

can't this post get some luv ^^ , serouisly i need a cleric , andi definlty refuse the pink egg

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

can't this post get some luv ^^ , serouisly i need a cleric , andi definlty refuse the pink egg

Articuno? EXCELLENT...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Articuno @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 96 Def / 160 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Heal Bell
- Roost
- Roar

Works great with SR support to kill sashers and offer a serious beatdown on any dragon. Chain Chomp is owned by this set, fire blast doesn't even hurt and is roosted off.

You'll want a Spinner though, SR weak hurts X_x

[Cascoon is EPIC]

do you think i can sacrafice some defense ev's and put in special defense?

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

do you think i can sacrafice some defense ev's and put in special defense?

Those EVs are my own, probably work the best. smogon's spread sucks, seriously.

But you'll want to be able to survive physical attacks, 100 base Def should not be ignored.

Besides, that's all the SDef it needs really.

[Cascoon is EPIC]

Ok i will take your word and can i ask should I use/can Tailwind over Roar and is there any differnce between Roar and Whirlwind?

[ABYAY]

I don't think there's a difference, but I guess people like Roar more. I think soundproof applies to Roar though...

I need to know if a Naughty Bagon with 23 attack, 21 sp. atk, and 25 speed IVs is useful. I really don't wanna have to go deep into breeding again, but if I must, then I must.

[Anti Pop Culture Warrior]

Ok i will take your word and can i ask should I use/can Tailwind over Roar and is there any differnce between Roar and Whirlwind?

Not familiar with tailwind, but Cuno wants that PHazer role for itself, it can take the hits.

And I don't think Cuno can learn Whirlwind...

[Ambient]

Moveset for a Jolteon please, including EVs (looking for a special sweeper). Thanks to whoever does this

[Dark_Azelf]

Moveset for a Jolteon please, including EVs (looking for a special sweeper). Thanks to whoever does this

Its really not a special sweeper, it hasnt got the movepool for it, its best role is a baton passer.

Jolteon@Salac Berry / Petaya berry
Timid Nature
252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED /6 HP
- Substitute
- Hidden power Ice / Shadow Ball
- Baton Pass
- Thunderbolt

[El Gofre]

Hi people, I was just wondering how this Vespiqueen set looks for a dual wall in the UU tier:
Vespiqueen@Leftovers
Impish
252HP/152Def/106SpDef
Defense Order
Heal Order
Attack Order
Toxic

Attack order with its raised critical hit ratio gives for a bit more hitting power. Toxic can force switch outs, Defese and Heal orders to keep the walling up.

[Spice Curry]

[Vespiquen] @Leftovers
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
Ability: Pressure
-Attack Order/U-Turn/Hidden Power [Fighting]
-Aerial Ace/Defend Order <-- this move is better for walling purposes
-Toxic
-Roost

Bee-ware Stealth Rock. *shot for lame pun >.< *

[El Gofre]

That would work, but im really aiming for a dual wall. since defend order boosts both defences I thought I'd make the most of it.

[Ambient]

I was wondering, could this ever work?

Physical Wall/Spiker/Spinner

Cloyster - Leftovers
Relaxed Nature
EVs; 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp. Def
- Spikes
- Toxic Spikes
- Protect
- Rapid Spin

Just a thought, with Cloysters high defence.

[Phoenix Rebirth]

What's a good moveset for Swampert and Dragonite?

[El Gofre]

I like this set for swampy:
Swampy@leftovers
Relaxed
200HP/152Att/156Def
EQ
Waterfall
Avalanche
Protect

EQ+Waterfall for STAB, Avalanche's strength is double when swampy takes a hit, which he is more than capable of doing. Protect to scout for the evil all-too-common grass knot. I like this, most people use cursepert though

[Phoenix Rebirth]

I like this set for swampy:
Swampy@leftovers
Relaxed
200HP/152Att/156Def
EQ
Waterfall
Avalanche
Protect

EQ+Waterfall for STAB, Avalanche's strength is double when swampy takes a hit, which he is more than capable of doing. Protect to scout for the evil all-too-common grass knot. I like this, most people use cursepert though

Hmmm I like that! I'll use it because curse is hard to get! :)
Anything for Dragonite?

[El Gofre]

Nope sorry, I dont like the fat dragon lol. I'll have a quick go:
Dragonite@Life Orb
Jolly
252Att/252Spd/6HP
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Thunder Punch
Fire Punch

Dunno how that would fare :)

[Dark_Azelf]

Nope sorry, I dont like the fat dragon lol. I'll have a quick go:
Dragonite@Life Orb
Jolly
252Att/252Spd/6HP
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Thunder Punch
Fire Punch

Dunno how that would fare :)

Yeah but 252 ATT / 190 SPEED / 68 HP gives in more Bulkyness.


Also Earthquake >>>> Thunderpunch. Givves it better coverage.

[Destiny100]

Umbreon movesets please

I was thinking

Umbreon (leftovers)
calm nature
252 hp, 252 spc def, 6 def

faint attack
batton pass
moonlight (the healing move)
sunny day (100% restoration when using moonlight)

please feel free to make as many changes as you like

[Spinarak]

Need movesets for Espeon(non-baton passer), Feraligatr and Houndoom.
cheers :)

[Goldenhammerhead]

does anyone know a subpuncher that could be used in a level 1 team?

[CoolTrainerXtasy]

Looking for the best physical tank that is not skarmory or donophan..


It is going to be facing gardovar physical attacks and rhyond physical attacks and possibly gyrados

[Angelic Diablo]

Need movesets for Espeon(non-baton passer), Feraligatr and Houndoom.
cheers :)

Houndoom@Focus Sash
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 Spd, 252 Sp Atk, 6 HP
-Dark Pulse
-Flamethrower
-Hidden Power Ground/Fighting
-Nasty Plot

Feraligatr@Leftovers/Life Orb
Adament Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
-Dragon Dance
-Waterfall
-Brick Break/Focus Punch
-Ice Punch

[shedinjask]

Need movesets for Espeon(non-baton passer), Feraligatr and Houndoom.
cheers :)

Espeon @ Life Orb/Specs
252 SAttk/252 Spd/4 HP ~ Timid
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Hidden Power Fighting
Calm Mind/Grass Rope

[Destiny100]

what should the 3 31 IV's on a dragonite be?

i was thinking
29-31 IV - hp
29-31 IV - att
29-31 IV - speed

The hp/attack wouldn't be too hard, once i get the hp/att what pokemon should i breed it with that has fast speed?

[Shiraishi]

Just breed it with a good Ditto o.0 Try to get decent IVs in it's defenses. Dragonite takes pride in his bulkyness.

[smile!]

What's a good moveset for
Rash Charizard (+Sp Att, -Sp Def)
Relaxed Venusaur (+Def, -Spd)
Blastoise (no change in stats)

IN FR. Thank you.

[Kirioroshi]

What would be a good Sword Dance Passer be?

i was thinking of Scyther. Or would a Scizor be better?

Scyther @ Leftovers
Jolly
-Sword Dance
-Baton Pass
-Substitute
-X-scissor

[Angelic Diablo]

Use Scizor if Baton Passing

Scizor@Leftovers
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Spd, 252 HP, 6 Atk
-Swords Dance
-Baton Pass
-Substitute/Agility
-X Scissor

Ninjask works as well...

Ninjask@Leftovers
Adament Nature
EVs: 252 Spd, 252 Atk, 6 HP
-Protect/X Scissor
-Baton Pass
-Swords Dance
-Substitute

If using no attacking moves, you can switch the Atk EVs to HP

[Goldenhammerhead]

iss there any poke that can run a subpuncher set at lv1?.....for my lv 1 team.

[Dark_Azelf]

iss there any poke that can run a subpuncher set at lv1?.....for my lv 1 team.

Machop ?

You might want to check on serebii and see which pre-evolved pokemon can learn Sub-Punch.

[Goldenhammerhead]

Machop ?

You might want to check on serebii and see which pre-evolved pokemon can learn Sub-Punch.

yeah...but im not entirely sure....tediursa could do it i think....have you got any other suggestions?

acually a pinsir could run this....anyone think of a lv1 subpunch pisir set?

[Dark_Azelf]

yeah...but im not entirely sure....tediursa could do it i think....have you got any other suggestions?

acually a pinsir could run this....anyone think of a lv1 subpunch pisir set?

Pinsir@Leftovers.
Adamant Nature
EVS : How do you ev a level 1 pokemon lol ?
Trait:Mold Breaker
- X-Scissor / Earthquake /Stone Edge .
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Bulk Up.

This works sort of like CMKou.

Bulk Up and then set a sub up so thay havent got a hope of breaking you with physical attacks. X-Scissor is for STAB. Earthquake with mold breaker hits gengar and stone edge for flying types.

Alter it how you want to.

[Goldenhammerhead]

Pinsir@Leftovers.
Adamant Nature
EVS : How do you ev a level 1 pokemon lol ?
- X-Scissor / Earthquake /Stone Edge .
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Bulk Up.

This works sort of like CMKou.

Bulk Up and then set a sub up so thay havent got a hope of breaking you with physical attacks. X-Scissor is for STAB. Earthquake with mould breaker hits gengar and stone edge for flying types.

Alter it how you want to.

thanks for that. bout the evs...you dont...my legue is just starting here at pc...still looking for leaders. The aim is all you have to run on is pokes,moves skill.

[Canadian Dirt]

What would decent movesets for the team I am building be?

I'm putting it together for the battle tower.

Entei@Quick Claw
Adamant
252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 Sp. Defense
Fire Fang
Bite (Does it learn crunch at a higher level?)
Toxic
Extrasensory

Cresselia@Leftovers
??? Nature
252 Sp. Attack, 128 Sp. Defense, 128 Speed, 2 HP
Ice Beam
Charge Beam
Psychic
Calm Mind

Also, what 3 other Pokemon would balance this for a WiFi battle?

[Dark_Azelf]

What would decent movesets for the team I am building be?

I'm putting it together for the battle tower.

Entei@Quick Claw
Adamant
252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 Sp. Defense
Fire Fang
Bite (Does it learn crunch at a higher level?)
Toxic
Extrasensory

Cresselia@Leftovers
??? Nature
252 Sp. Attack, 128 Sp. Defense, 128 Speed, 2 HP
Ice Beam
Charge Beam
Psychic
Calm Mind

Also, what 3 other Pokemon would balance this for a WiFi battle?


Ewwww.

Entei@Leftovers
6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
~ Will-O-Wisp
~ Fire Fang
~ Stone Edge
~ Toxic / Reflect

Double status is nice aswell to cripple stuff as is setting up team support in Reflect. Stone Edge and Fire Fang are about its best moves.

OR

Entei@Choice Band
6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
~ Fire Fang
~ Stone Edge
~ Iron Tail / Will-O-Wisp
~ Return

Fire Fang and Stone edge are its most reliable moves. Return deals with most other things, Iron Tail is mainly for rock types such as T-tar. Will-o-wisp could be surprising.

OR

Entei@Leftovers
132 HP / 126 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
~ Lava Plume / Fire Blast
~ Calm Mind
~ Substitute / Reflect
~ Hidden Power Ice

this is sp.att entei. First move is for STAB, Calm Mind buffs you up, sub lets you set up calm minds, Reflect is for team support and Hidden power ice is for coverage against dragons and ground types etc.


As for cressy

Cresselia @Leftovers
Bold Nature
252 HP / 108 DEF / 148 SP.DEF
- Charge Beam
- Psychic / Ice Beam
- Reflect
- Rest.


Cressy is defensive and should be used as such. Charge beam improves its abysmal sp.att. Psychic gets STAB and is good for that reason alone, ice Beam takes out dragon and ground types. Reflect is for team support and rest to heal.

[Canadian Dirt]

(Thank god I havn't leveled them to 100, now to get that Stone Edge TM)
I almost forgot about my Suicune

Suicune@??? (Nothing)
Calm Nature
Random EVs
-Surf
-Blizzard
-Shadow Ball
-Rain Dance

And how about movesets\EVs\items for:

Umbreon
Froslass
Torterra

[Dark_Azelf]

(Thank god I havn't leveled them to 100, now to get that Stone Edge TM)
I almost forgot about my Suicune

Suicune@??? (Nothing)
Calm Nature
Random EVs
-Surf
-Blizzard
-Shadow Ball
-Rain Dance

And how about movesets\EVs\items for:

Umbreon
Froslass
Torterra


Suicune@Leftovers
252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SP.DEF
Bold Nature
- Surf
- Roar /Ice Beam / Hidden power Electric
- Rest
- Calm Mind

Calm mind suicune, its a sp.tank.

Surf for STAB.

Roar to stop stat uppers, shuffle spikes etc. Ice Beam for dragons, Grass and ground types etc.

Rest to heal

Calm mind to buff you up.



Umbreon@Leftovers
252 HP / 252 in whichever defense you want it to take hits on / 6 in the opposite defense
Careful / Impish nature
- Payback
- Curse
- Wish
- Baton pass / Taunt / Protect

Payback for STAB.

Curse to buff you up.

Wish to heal.

Baton pass to pass those curses. Taunt to stop phazers and protect to activate wish.

Frosslass@Leftovers
Timid Nature
252 SPEED / 252 SP.ATT / 6 HP
~ Thunder Wave / Destiny Bond
~ Confuse Ray / Spikes / Shadow Ball
~ Ice Beam
~ Thunderbolt

Thunderwave for team support , Destiny bond for a cheap kill.

Confuse ray for well, confusion. Spikes for team support again. Shadow Ball gets STAB.

ice Beam for STAB and Thunderbolt for coverage.


Torterra i dont really know much about.

[Saint of Swords]

Ok I had planned this moveset for my charizard:
-Focus Blast
-Air Slash
-Dragon Pulse
-flamethrower

But I got my hands on a charmander awhile ago with these egg moves:
* dragon rage
*dragon dance
*dragon rush.

Should I keep any of these moves for some reason?

Im also looking for a good Gallade (adamant) moveset.

[Crash 529]

Whats a good wall for pokemonfirered, I'm restarting for Tm's and such, I don't see anything thing good to choice from.

[Goldenhammerhead]

Whats a good wall for pokemonfirered, I'm restarting for Tm's and such, I don't see anything thing good to choice from.

blissey, snorlax cough cough!!!

[PhoenixFlare]

Whats a good wall for pokemonfirered, I'm restarting for Tm's and such, I don't see anything thing good to choice from.

For in-game you don't need one just all sweepers but for third gen pokemon you can get in FR here:
Blastoise, Steelix, Golem, Muk, Weezing, Hypno, Magneton, Kangaskhan (good luck catching it), Rhydon.
Just a few of them.

[ThePlaya]

Can anyone help me with a Kanghaskan move-set, nature, and EV spread??
I've been wanting to ev train one for a while now but can't start because i don't know how to start.
All help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance!

[Dark_Azelf]

Well for those of you who dont know. Deoxys [E] Speed Form has been unbanned. A couple of threads on Smogon saying its allowed now in tournaments and on shoddy battle etc and has moved tier to OU, yes OU. Shiny Umbreon commented in Ooka's tier list about one appearing on shoddy in a standard match.

Before you go omfg

Have a look



Its Base stats

HP - 50

ATT - 95

DEF - 90

SP.ATT - 95

SP.DEF- 90

Speed - 180

Its base stats are nice, but not ZOMFG UBERZORZ !!!! (apart from speed :p) its HP sucks however and the rest fail to reach base 100, but Jirachis, Celebi's etc do and yet they are OU. Only its speed is insane.

Compare these base stats to T-tar, Salamence, heatran, Cresselia, Metagross etc, trust me its not impressive compared to those. Its movepool is insane however, but so is Tyranitars really.

Ive always thought to myself "Surely its stats are too low for ubers ?" and thats probably what refelcts it being moved down to OU.

I was wanting to see what this guy could really do.

I was thinking of making it an "Anti lead" pokemon or "support pokemon"


Deoxys@Life Orb
Naive Nature
104 Atk / 252 SpA / 152 Spe
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Superpower / Shadow Ball / Grass Knot
- Psychic

Yeah this looks nice. Takes out all the common leads, Gyarados, Slamence, T-tar, Hippowdon, Gengar etc. The only thing that may wall this is Cressy and dusknoir, but they take a beating from shadow ball. its faster than weavile as well as Jolteon and aerodactyl.


Deoxys@Leftovers
Timid Nature
104 HP / 252 Sp.A / 152 Speed
~ Ice Beam / Thunderbolt / Psychic
~ Stealth Rock / Spikes
~ Knock Off /Thunderbolt / Psychic
~ Recover / Taunt

It even has an insane support movepool.


What do you think ?


Id also be interested of what you think about this thing being moved to OU..

[Britney Spears]

Yep, I participated in a tournament on Shoddy that was a test-run to see if Deoxys-E was suitable in OU. And from the data they collected, they did determine it was best run in OU, a top-tier OU like Tyranitar, Blissey, and Infernape. It's distribution of stats really let's it down. I personally like the Sweeper set Azelf. Difficult to get much support out of it.

[sims796]

What would it need Timid for? To me, that's like a Calm Blissey. Overkill. What is going to outspeed it, Ninjask?

[Dark_Azelf]

What would it need Timid for? To me, that's like a Calm Blissey. Overkill. What is going to outspeed it, Ninjask?

So you dont need so many speed EVS and so they can be distributed elsewhere, allowing it to sweep.

Calm Blissey in what is should be Ubers though (to deal with specs mewtwo and kyogre and stuff), but in OU yeah its overkill.




Im not really sure what a surefire counter would be for it, i mean you could revenge kill it with a Choice Scarf Ninjask with X-Scissor, Choice Scarf Weavile, Choice Scarf Aerodactyl with Night Slash and Crunch respectively (God how stupid does that sound, pokemon in the top 25 speed of all pokemon need a scarf to outspeed this thing =/). Its movepool is stupid though so a counter is hard to find.

Cressy or dusknoir still look the best to me, only if its not packing shadow ball.

Loquacity, you said you participated in that shoddy tourney to see if deoxys was compatible with OU right ? Was there a /the/ counter for it ?

I cant wait to use that in a rmt threat "You team is Deoxys [E] weak" lol

[Britney Spears]

Blissey was a tough counter is Deoxys was used Special-based. You ignored it's Physical Movepool, which isn't as deep, but is still effective. I like a Mixed Deoxys-E:

Deoxys-E @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EV Spread: 192 Atk/158 SAtk/160 Spd
Naive Nature (Spd +, SDef -)

Psycho Boost
Zen Headbutt
Extremespeed / Rock Slide
Thunderbolt

Those EVs allow it to outrun Choice Scarf Gengar, which isn't that common. So EVs can be syphoned from Speed and put into its Attack and Special Attack. Adjust based on your biggest threats.

[Dark_Azelf]

Blissey was a tough counter is Deoxys was used Special-based. You ignored it's Physical Movepool, which isn't as deep, but is still effective. I like a Mixed Deoxys-E:

Deoxys-E @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EV Spread: 192 Atk/158 SAtk/160 Spd
Naive Nature (Spd +, SDef -)

Psycho Boost
Zen Headbutt
Extremespeed / Rock Slide
Thunderbolt

Those EVs allow it to outrun Choice Scarf Gengar, which isn't that common. So EVs can be syphoned from Speed and put into its Attack and Special Attack. Adjust based on your biggest threats.

Wow, now that set looks nice. How could i overlook its physical movepool :O. Ill run 160 speed evs, as Scarf gengar is a beast.

Ive had a look and Metagross and Jirachi look good as counters aswell.

Anyways It seems i have a bit of soft re-setting to do, good job i saved the ticket on my emerald hahaha, time to dominate the metagame =p.

Ill guarantee i will get one at least one disconnection on wifi by a person who claims im using an "Uber" lol

[sims796]

So, it's biggest flaw is the fact that is doesn't hit all too hard? I mean, 95-90 for offense doesn't seem too scary, despite his movepool.

[Dark_Azelf]

So, it's biggest flaw is the fact that is doesn't hit all too hard? I mean, 95-90 for offense doesn't seem too scary, despite his movepool.

Its offenses are ok, above average, but nothing special.

Its sucky hp lets it down aswell, base 50 isnt good at all.


It looks awesome though, i really want to try it out.

[El Gofre]

Hi peoples, Ive just recieved a shiny adamant torchic, and was wondering what a good set for it would be. Although it isnt egg-moved, the odds of getting a shiny AND good natured poke are unlikely, so work with it please :)

EDIT: For when it becomes a blaziken lol

[ABYAY]

Gofre, I was about to note a similar thing.

I'm looking for a Blaziken set (preferred Scarf'd) that can be mix or just all out physical. Here's my current set, but I'm wondering if there's any better.

Blaziken@Choice Scarf
Adamant
252 atk/252 spd/6HP

Brave Bird
Fire Punch/Blaze Kick
Brick Break/Sky Uppercut
Stone Edge

Fire Punch and BB for better accuracy; Stone Edge for Gyarados.

[shadow_ki6]

um would someone please give me a set for a good special wall that can resist hail

something like an articuno perhaps xD

[Kirioroshi]

What would be an alternate jolteon moveset? =S. A jolteon without hidden power that is.

[Shiraishi]

Just replace Hidden power with Shadow ball. :/

[Kirioroshi]

=S lol forgot about that..

also i want to ask, would this donphan work?

Donphan @ leftovers
252 Hp/ 86 Atk / 172 Def
-Stealth Rock
-Rapid Spin
-Earthquake
-Ice Shard / Rock Slide

[Eos Aduro]

Yes, it will, go Ice Shard BTW. And maybe a little more attack into defense if you're going more spinner and Stealth Rocker, need some defense to hang in there.

[ABYAY]

Ice Shard > Rock Slide so Garchomp feels some damage that can't be dodged very well.