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Shiraishi
January 27th, 2008, 04:11 PM
My friend from Trickster Online (http://www.tricksteronline.com/) was kewl enough to donate a Blissey to me. Obviously, I have A LOT more options for making teams now. I went pretty standard with this one though. RMT Pl0x.

Infernape@Life orb
Nature: Naive
EVs: 232 Spd/24 Atk/252 Sp. atk
-Flamethrower
-Close Combat
-HP [Ice]
-Grass knot

My EvilApe. I'd like to thank God for giving me HP [Ice] and amazing IVs on my first IV check.

Gengar@Focus Sash/Wide Lens?
Nature: Timid
EVs:252 Spd/252 Sp. atk/4 HP
-Shadow ball
-Thunderbolt
-Hypnosis
-Focus blast

My first time using Gengar, so i don't know much about him. Help pl0x.

Gliscor@Leftovers
Nature: Impish
EVs:252 HP/252 Def/4 Atk
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Roost
-Stealth Rock

Jirachi@Leftovers
Nature:Impish
EVs:240 HP/56 Atk/76 Def/136 Spd
-Zen headbutt
-U-turn
-Wish
-Thunder

Blissey@Leftovers
Nature:Bold
EVs:20 HP/252 Def/104 Sp. atk/134 Sp. def
-Seismic toss
-Aromatherapy
-Ice beam
-Softboiled

I was thinking about going Calm, but I only have one Blissey >.>;

Garchomp@Choice Scarf
Nature:Lonely
Evs:252 Spd/252 Atk/HP
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Fire blast
-Stone Edge

Reliable sweeper.

El Gofre
January 27th, 2008, 04:43 PM
Wide lense on gengar. its essentially a ten percent boost on Acc70 moves, making its two inaccurate choices hit 4/5 times.
That blissey set looks a bit iffy to me, but each to their own. Looks like a nice solid team.
EDIT: For 'nape, take 52 EVs off its SpAtt and put them in its Att, i find it works better

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
January 27th, 2008, 04:48 PM
Yeah, Focus Sash is a pretty terrible item.

Gengar is fun with Life Orb or choice specs IMO. Powwer >>>>> Accuracy on any pokemon carrying focus blast.

Dark_Azelf
January 27th, 2008, 05:10 PM
Infernape@Life orb
Nature: Naive
EVs: 232 Spd/24 Atk/252 Sp. atk
-Flamethrower
-Close Combat
- Nasty Plot
-Grass knot / HP [Ice]

Pick between Grass Knot and HP Ice, without Nasty Plot its not gonna sweep. At all. A good example is if you dont run Nasty Plot, Hippowdon live and Earthquakes the hell out of you. id go grass knot personally or you get loled at by bulky waters, HP Ice doesnt do much for ape.

Gengar@Focus Sash / Life Orb
Nature: Timid
EVs:252 Spd/252 Sp. atk/4 HP
-Shadow ball
-Thunderbolt
-Hypnosis
-Focus blast

Focus Sash or Life Orb, Wide Lense doesnt help much, 70 -->> 77 Accuracy isnt really that helpful.

Gliscor@Leftovers
Nature: Impish
EVs:252 HP/252 Def/4 Atk
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge / ice Fang
-Roost
-Stealth Rock

Id put ice fang on this or DD mence and Swords Dance Chomp rapes you.

Jirachi@Leftovers
Nature:Impish
EVs:240 HP/56 Atk/76 Def/136 Spd
-Zen headbutt
-U-turn
-Wish
-Thunder

Nice

Blissey@Leftovers
Nature:Bold
EVs:20 HP/252 Def/104 Sp. atk/134 Sp. def
-Seismic toss
-Aromatherapy
-Ice beam
-Softboiled

Looks fine

Garchomp@Choice Scarf
Nature Adamant
Evs:224 Spd/252 Atk/ 32 sp.def
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Fire blast
-Stone Edge

Scarf Chomp ftw. Adamant >> Lonely, you cut its defenses, it harms it switching in effectively, 10% doesnt seem like much, but its noticeable, Lonely doesnt do much for it anyways, you still 2hko skarm and forry with Adamant, Lonely does nothing but kill its defense.

Way too much speed, 252 is overkill, 224 is all it needs and it outruns everything. Give it 32 Sp.Def evs, if the sp.atter runs any less than 266 sp.att and doesnt get STAB it fails to ohko it with ice Beam.



Changes are in bold,

Life Orb DD Gyara, Bulky Dos, Metal Sound Heatran, DD Salamence, Life Orb Mix mence (Brick Break, Draco meteor, Fire Blast and Roost), Mix vire (Flamethrower, HP Ice, Thunderbolt, Cross Chop) etc and a whole lot more. All these threats do a number on you, if chomp dies that is, it your only hope against the above, if spikes are up its not gonna last long and youll die =[. Especially since you dont have a rapid spinner. You also lack anything to stop stat ups, namely a PHazer.

Shiraishi
January 27th, 2008, 06:20 PM
All those threats can be stopped by a Bulky water (which I don't have :o) If I add one, I'd have to take out a sweeper which..won't be nice x.x;

Faceless*
January 27th, 2008, 09:37 PM
Yeah, Focus Sash is a pretty terrible item.

Gengar is fun with Life Orb or choice specs IMO. Powwer >>>>> Accuracy on any pokemon carrying focus blast.

No it's NOT Anti, seems you're only saying that due to Sandstream

Focus Sash is quite the reason I do well in my battles alone

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
January 27th, 2008, 09:40 PM
Focus sash is stopped by hail, sadndstorm, spikes, SR, status...you name it.

It's fine on leads, but focus sash is usually unreliable.

Shiraishi
January 28th, 2008, 01:34 AM
I've been thinking..replacing Jirachi with Empoleon would give me a phazer and is able to kill BulkyWaters. Need feedback on this.