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Karonte
February 2nd, 2008, 09:45 AM
Would I be a noob if when I buy PBR I use 3 eved legendaries?

ultimatelegend5
February 2nd, 2008, 09:57 AM
Nah I don't think so, noob is just used by people who are losing or are ignorant or if the other person is cheating

Karonte
February 2nd, 2008, 09:58 AM
Really?

Cause all I hear is that "a N00b used legendaries" and stuff like that.

Kittyipawd
February 2nd, 2008, 09:58 AM
I think it would be , only Noobs rely on Ubers to make up for there lack of skill , Ubers are different from legendarys ....

Karonte
February 2nd, 2008, 10:00 AM
But they are my back up.

My mains would be Togekiss,electivire and gardevoir.

Kittyipawd
February 2nd, 2008, 10:00 AM
So .... Still noobish just raise new pokes

Karonte
February 2nd, 2008, 10:03 AM
Oh ook. It still hasnt been released here so i have tme.

HappinyDaisy
February 2nd, 2008, 10:05 AM
But they are my back up.

My mains would be Togekiss,electivire and gardevoir.

If you worked hard and trained your legendaries, you'll give someone a good battle. PM me when you get the game and you're ready to battle :)

Kittyipawd
February 2nd, 2008, 10:10 AM
You never spefied which legends

Karonte
February 2nd, 2008, 10:12 AM
Kyogre
Ho-oh (Might change)
Deoxys

sims796
February 2nd, 2008, 10:12 AM
If you worked hard and trained your legendaries, you'll give someone a good battle. PM me when you get the game and you're ready to battle :)
Not that simple. On their own, Ubers are far mor powerful than the rest of the pokes. If you NEED them to win, it shows a superior lack of skill. Like brass knuckles in a boxing match. You're so weak, you need brass knuckles?

Kittyipawd
February 2nd, 2008, 10:14 AM
Kyogre
Ho-oh (Might change)
Deoxys
These are all Uber and like sims said show lack of skill , these pokemon are unbalenced and rip the metagame thus noone will repect you when you win and thier is no fun in that

Karonte
February 2nd, 2008, 10:14 AM
Im not depending on them.

I just have no time to train new ones.

sims796
February 2nd, 2008, 10:16 AM
I mean, if it's just for cheap fun, feel free.

But, on a random enviorment, be ready to be labeled a noob.

I don't play PBR, so it doesn't concern me. Do what you want.

Karonte
February 2nd, 2008, 10:18 AM
Ook......

*Looks at self in shame*

sims796
February 2nd, 2008, 10:20 AM
It's understandable that you don't have time to raise others, but...


This is a random enviorment. Why should they suffer because you don't have time? That's not their concern.

Which is also why people use the word noob.

Karonte
February 2nd, 2008, 10:27 AM
Hmm ok Time to start training.

HappinyDaisy
February 2nd, 2008, 10:42 AM
Not that simple. On their own, Ubers are far mor powerful than the rest of the pokes. If you NEED them to win, it shows a superior lack of skill. Like brass knuckles in a boxing match. You're so weak, you need brass knuckles?

Those are all excellent points! I certainly would prefer to battle on a level playing field. But I don't see anything wrong with wanting to battle a little with your legendaries every now and again. I personally don't have a team full of legendaries, but I'd like to use one every now and again for fun. If, as a trainer you NEED them to win, then that's on that trainer and with time, they'll probably get bored with winning all the time. I know I would.

Maybe I have a much lighter view on the game than most others here, but I still think the bottom line is that you're supposed to have fun...if you like your Latias, or your Entei and you've trained 'em up...have fun with them! :)

You certainly have a point though! I love the comparison to brass knuckles! That's perfect!

sims796
February 2nd, 2008, 10:56 AM
Those are all excellent points! I certainly would prefer to battle on a level playing field. But I don't see anything wrong with wanting to battle a little with your legendaries every now and again. I personally don't have a team full of legendaries, but I'd like to use one every now and again for fun. If, as a trainer you NEED them to win, then that's on that trainer and with time, they'll probably get bored with winning all the time. I know I would.

Maybe I have a much lighter view on the game than most others here, but I still think the bottom line is that you're supposed to have fun...if you like your Latias, or your Entei and you've trained 'em up...have fun with them! :)

You certainly have a point though! I love the comparison to brass knuckles! That's perfect!

The reason I'm not all "OMG U CANT USE UBERZ U n00BZ!" is because I know it's a game, and some people just have fun using it. Time after time, I love to use Kyorge in my normal team.

Still, I kow how long it takes to properly train. It took me five months to breed the right Oddish, so I can understand when people uses the word noob. I like to win, well, the compettitive way. So while you're free to use ubers on random, well, be prepared to be looked down at.

However, when someone starts claim they are the best using ubers, I draw the line. I take it as an insult, because, well, you are so pathetic, you NEED ubers. Well, not YOU, but a person that says those things.

HappinyDaisy
February 2nd, 2008, 11:05 AM
The reason I'm not all "OMG U CANT USE UBERZ U n00BZ!" is because I know it's a game, and some people just have fun using it. Time after time, I love to use Kyorge in my normal team.

Still, I kow how long it takes to properly train. It took me five months to breed the right Oddish, so I can understand when people uses the word noob. I like to win, well, the compettitive way. So while you're free to use ubers on random, well, be prepared to be looked down at.

However, when someone starts claim they are the best using ubers, I draw the line. I take it as an insult, because, well, you are so pathetic, you NEED ubers. Well, not YOU, but a person that says those things.

Well said :)

I gotta go, but I'd love to get a battle in sometime and get a look at your Kyorge! I personally don't use legendaries in my current top teams, but I'm thinking about training up my Latias. Shoot me a PM sometime!

ultimatelegend5
February 2nd, 2008, 12:17 PM
The reason I'm not all "OMG U CANT USE UBERZ U n00BZ!" is because I know it's a game, and some people just have fun using it. Time after time, I love to use Kyorge in my normal team.

Still, I kow how long it takes to properly train. It took me five months to breed the right Oddish, so I can understand when people uses the word noob. I like to win, well, the compettitive way. So while you're free to use ubers on random, well, be prepared to be looked down at.

However, when someone starts claim they are the best using ubers, I draw the line. I take it as an insult, because, well, you are so pathetic, you NEED ubers. Well, not YOU, but a person that says those things.

yeah I totally agree, man I hate that

Azonic
February 2nd, 2008, 01:36 PM
- Ubers can be rightfully used in the Uber Environment. There are numerous trainers who use Ubers to battle. There is nothing wrong with that. If you have a team that is specially designed for the Uber Environment, you won't be looked down at.

- Ubers can be misused though. If you put an uber on some random assortment of a team, you probably will get looked down at. Luxray, Donphan, Garchomp, Gliscor, Porygon2, Palkia. Palkia came from nowhere! This team is not designed for the uber environment, more of the OU environment. So if you have a team like this, you will most likely be frowned upon.

- You see, there are different tiers. Overused[OU] is only one step down from Uber. If someone asks for an OU or just a regular battle, don't use your Uber pokemon.

sims796
February 2nd, 2008, 02:04 PM
- Ubers can be rightfully used in the Uber Environment. There are numerous trainers who use Ubers to battle. There is nothing wrong with that. If you have a team that is specially designed for the Uber Environment, you won't be looked down at.

- Ubers can be misused though. If you put an uber on some random assortment of a team, you probably will get looked down at. Luxray, Donphan, Garchomp, Gliscor, Porygon2, Palkia. Palkia came from nowhere! This team is not designed for the uber environment, more of the OU environment. So if you have a team like this, you will most likely be frowned upon.

- You see, there are different tiers. Overused[OU] is only one step down from Uber. If someone asks for an OU or just a regular battle, don't use your Uber pokemon.

True as this is, you missed a key issue. These are random battles. No saying "I want OU?Uber. So, as you said, they will be looked down upon.

Anti
February 2nd, 2008, 02:16 PM
You aren't necessarily a n00b if you use Ubers in standard play if you know how to use them (with EVs, good movesets, etc.) It just shows you need to learn about tiers.

When you use Hyper Beam Rayquaza, then a n00b you probably are. If you use DD Ray with Life Orb and Outrage and sweep even Uber Teams of good players, you aren't a n00b.

Those are mostly generalizations, but yeah.

The Uber metagame is about as balanced as a scale with Rick Majerus on one end and a grain of sand on the other (as in it isn't balanced at all), so learning to use Ubers can be difficult.

If you hack, you're instantly are labeled a n00b. Just try to play fair and use good tactics, and have some fun. Yeah...

BTW, as mentioned, putting Ubers on a standard team is a really bad idea, especially Attack Deoxys, which shreds apart literally 99% of the standard metagame, except priority move users and Jolly Ninjask.

So yeah, just keep things in their own tiers, and yeah.

sims796
February 2nd, 2008, 02:19 PM
You aren't necessarily a n00b if you use Ubers in standard play if you know how to use them (with EVs, good movesets, etc.) It just shows you need to learn about tiers.

Actually, that's the whole reason they are banned. A well trained uber doesn't belong in standard play. And that's why people are considered noobs with them, because you need them to win.

If you can make a well trained uber, you can make other well trained pokes.

Anti
February 2nd, 2008, 03:09 PM
Actually, that's the whole reason they are banned. A well trained uber doesn't belong in standard play. And that's why people are considered noobs with them, because you need them to win.

Well, exactly. That's what I mean...if you accidentally (I probably should have added that lol) use them in the wrong tier due to inexperience or w/e, you aren't a n00b...that was the point I was trying to make ;)

If you can make a well trained uber, you can make other well trained pokes.

Ubers are actually even harder because they're so hard to catch with good IVs, nature, etc. and sometimes even a hidden power value...though that's just legendary pokemon in general.

I really need to stop answering in bold with the character limit lol

Anyways, some people are too hard on people who are just beginners. The hackbags that have their Sacred Fire Rayquaza on the other hand...

sims796
February 2nd, 2008, 03:25 PM
No, she asked first. That alone makes her less of a noob. Knowing & not knowing is all the difference.

My definition of a n00b is an ignorant user who swears they are hot shark (I've just seen my fisrt episode of Battlestar Galactica) BECAUSE of ubers.

GeneralGuy
February 2nd, 2008, 05:08 PM
TIP: n00bs are players who lack competitive battling skills.

However, people have a negative stereotypical impression due to this statistical coincidence with n00bs using Ubers quite often. Just because someone uses Ubers does not automatically grant someone the right to label them as n00bs.

sims796
February 2nd, 2008, 05:16 PM
TIP: n00bs are players who lack competitive battling skills.

However, people have a negative stereotypical impression due to this statistical coincidence with n00bs using Ubers quite often. Just because someone uses Ubers does not automatically grant someone the right to label them as n00bs.

This is true, but remember, this is a random enviorment. There are specific tiers that each poke belongs to. Any user who uses ubers, despite being a good trainer, in their regular team and thinks that is ok, gives the opponnent the right to use the word noob. Ubers belong to their own tier. You basically give off the impression that you lack skill when ubers are in your team.

Karonte
February 3rd, 2008, 12:09 AM
Ok Im making a new team these are the stats for now:

Electivire Lvl 100 (Adamant)

Hp:310
Att:372
Def:162
Sp att:209
Sp.def:192
Speed:238

Attacks:
Thuder punch, Crosschop, Earthquake, Gigaimpact.


Gastly Lvl20 (Modest)

Hp: 44
Att:20
Def: 21
Sp att:49
Sp.def:19
Speed:42

Attacks: Spite,Confuseray, Curse, Nightshade


Starly Lvl3 (Adamant)

Hp:16
Att:8
Def:7
Sp att:6
Sp def:7
Speed:9

Attack: Tackle, Growl, Fly


Pichu Lvl1 (Lonely)

Hp:11
Att:6
Def:4
Sp att:5
Sp def:5
Speed:6

Attacks: Thundershock, Charm, Thunderpunch, Volt tackle


Gardevoir Lvl 30 (Modest)

Hp:81
Att:45
Def:49
Sp att:97
Sp def:81
Speed: 58

Attacks:Magical leaf, Confusion, Calm mind, Teleport


Armaldo Lvl 40 (Brave)

HP:120
ATT: 130
Def:88
Sp att:62
Sp def:69
Speed:45

Attacks:Ancientpower, Protect, Furry cutter, Metal claw.


These are all still in training (Except electivire). Ive recently learned to EV. So please dont diss electivire.

Olz.
February 3rd, 2008, 12:16 AM
Hmm in my point of view.. yea xD (No offence). i hate people who use a whole team of legandaries. I use a palkia because my team sucks xD But only 1.

sims796
February 3rd, 2008, 12:45 AM
Well, Miss, admitting you have a problem is the first step....

Seriously, that makes you much less, um, "nooby", I think.

Olz.
February 3rd, 2008, 01:01 AM
Well the only reason i use it is because i need something "Powerfull" Till my tyranitars working :)
MY team is: (Just names)
Scizor
Mismaguis
Kingdra
Charizard
Alakazam
Tyranitar
bold = I'm making xP

Crimson Arcanine
February 4th, 2008, 01:40 PM
Remember folks theres a distinction between the following: NEWB and NOOB

Newbs have protential to learn and get better. Noobs tend not to choose this option or are igornant of what true battling is all about.

Newbs are like seeds, Noobs are like skin cancer

sims796
February 4th, 2008, 01:45 PM
Great. Another great post I can't fit into my sig.

SBaby
February 9th, 2008, 09:55 PM
Really?

Cause all I hear is that "a N00b used legendaries" and stuff like that.

It's really only the tourneyjerks (explicit scientific name for them removed due to content) that will call people noobs for using Legendaries. Those people really need to get over themselves. As it is, whether you're a 'noob' or not is only the opinion of those that say you are.

I use them, and I don't think I'm a noob. Do others think I am? Well, some people do, but most really don't care, and I really don't care what others think about the way I play games. Granted, I usually avoid online battling like the plague. But the short answer is no. You're not a noob for using Legendary Pokemon. At least, not in my opinion.

Now using UMBRELLA to get rid of the bat Pokemon, that's just cheating.

boo836
February 10th, 2008, 10:24 AM
N00b= Annoying, spamming, bragging, cheating, dim-witted person that lacks skill and who defines themself as superior to others while using super powered pokes but do not know anything exept they are powerful.

Yeah, that's only the pokemon n00b.

Karonte
February 10th, 2008, 10:32 AM
Thamks everyone for there posts and I have decided what to do!

Look at my trainer card!

(Btw im Anthonymalta)

Dark Jay
February 13th, 2008, 10:36 AM
I don't think so. I still use my rental pass! >_<