ABY's Winter Maelstrom

[ABYAY]

This team's completely experimental. I've been doing some matches lately, and it's doing well actually.

Abomasnow@Choice Band *Frosty*
Jolly nature
252atk/252spd/6HP

Ice Shard
Focus Punch
Seed Bomb
Earthquake

Thanks to D.Azelf for the set; Focus Punch OHKOs Blissey coming in if it were to try for some reason, and it's just a powerful move to really cause havoc. Ice Shard OHKOs Scarfchomp that thinks it can get a quickie with Fire Fang, but who in their right mind would keep Chomp vs. Abomasnow?

Weavile@Focus Sash *YOUR FACE!* (I randomly nickname pokemon whatever comes to mind.)
Jolly
252atk/252spd/6HP

S.D.
Ice Punch
Brick Break
Night Slash

I'm still a fan of the Sash Weavile, despite what people say about it. SR does indeed kill me in this set, but keep going down the list. Also, 252 spd to ensure speed ties with other Weaviles that want to run max speed.

Gliscor@Leftovers
Impish
252HP/252Def/6atk
Hyper Cutter (So Gyarados doesn't screw me over nor Salamence)

Ice Fang/Aerial Ace
Earthquake
Roost
Stealth Rock

Physical sponge obviously. Aerial Ace might potentially replace Quake to deal with Hera...yet again. Stealth Rock is obvious.

Tentacruel@Black Sludge
204 HP / 96 SP.ATT / 172 SP.DEF / 36 SPEED
Calm Nature
Liquid Ooze (Over Clear Body to lol at seeders)

Rapid Spin
Surf
Giga Drain/HP Electric
Ice Beam/Blizzard

Sorta modified moveset wise. With Blissey, I'd rather paralyze over poison, so Toxic spikes are out of it. Giga Drain or HP Electric is dependant on when I get an IV check for Hidden Power. G.Drain's to 2HKO the incoming Swampert. I might modify the EVs a little bit to have more special attack. Thanks to D.Azelf again...also, I might go Blizzard over Ice Beam to take advantage of Hail, but I'm still iffy on it.

Gardevoir@Choice Scarf
Modest
252sp.atk/252spd/6HP

Psychic
Thunderbolt
Energy Ball
Focus Blast

People tell me I shouldn't use this, but I love this set. I'm uneasy on double-status Voir due to my already-weak ScarfCross problem, and Guts will make it a lot worse.. This set also majorly damages Gyarados that gets off a Dragon Dance or Taunts a sponge of mine. However, max speed Dos is a threat.

*Since I can't think of other options...*

Blissey@Lefties
Bold
252HP/252def/6sp.def

Seismic Toss
T-Wave
Softboiled
Aromatherapy

My all-needed Cleric and sp. sponge. I don't need Ice Beam because the team's Ice-strong side. X_X.
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I know my team has a ton of weaknesses, but this is more like my semi-mess around team. In reality, I gotta finish Gliscor and Tentacruel, and their replacements are bleh for now. Anyway, I'm striking with at least 2 ice types to keep Hail useful and with at least some mini use.

[Dark Azelf]

This team's completely experimental. I've been doing some matches lately, and it's doing well actually.

Abomasnow@Choice Band *Frosty*
Jolly nature
252atk/252spd/6HP

Ice Shard
Focus Punch
Seed Bomb
Earthquake

Thanks to D.Azelf for the set; Focus Punch OHKOs Blissey coming in, expecting special Abomasnow. This set requires great prediction to work properly, which I do rather well. Ice Shard OHKOs Scarfchomp that thinks it can get a quickie with Fire Fang, but who in their right mind would keep Chomp vs. Abomasnow?

Weavile@Focus Sash *YOUR FACE!* (I randomly nickname pokemon whatever comes to mind.)
Jolly
252atk/252spd/6HP

S.D.
Ice Punch
Brick Break
Night Slash

I'm still a fan of the Sash Weavile, despite what people say about it. SR does indeed kill me in this set, but keep going down the list. Also, 252 spd to ensure speed ties with other Weaviles that want to run max speed.

Cloyster@Leftovers
Impish/Bold
252HP/252Def/6Atk

Ice Shard/Ice Beam
Rapid Spin
Spikes
Toxic

Unsure about Cloyster, but he's going to be my main physical wall. Ice Shard for those dragons again. I could go Ice Beam I suppose, but Cloyster's attack is higher, and Ice Shard has more useful properties.

Claydol@leftovers
252 HP / 108 DEF / 96 SP.ATT / 54 SP.DEF
Bold Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earth power
- Rapid Spin
- Psychic

2 Spinners??? Yeah I know it's sorta redundant, but this team NEEDS SR protection, and Claydol does it well. Psychic rids of that friggen switch-in Gengar. Ice Beam was an option, but c'mon...this is an Ice team. D.Azelf gets bonus points again for the set.

Gardevoir@Choice Scarf
Modest
252sp.atk/252spd/6HP

Psychic
Thunderbolt
Energy Ball
Focus Blast

People tell me I shouldn't use this, but I love this set. I'm uneasy on double-status Voir due to my already-weak ScarfCross problem, and Guts will make it a lot worse.. This set also majorly damages Gyarados that gets off a Dragon Dance or Taunts a sponge of mine. However, max speed Dos is a threat.

*Since I can't think of other options...*

Blissey@Lefties
Bold
252HP/252def/6sp.def

Seismic Toss
T-Wave
Softboiled
Aromatherapy

My all-needed Cleric and sp. sponge. I don't need Ice Beam because the team's Ice-strong side. X_X.
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I know my team has a ton of weaknesses, but this is more like my semi-mess around team. In reality, I gotta finish Claydol and Cloyster, and their replacements are bleh for now. Anyway, I'm striking with at least 3 ice types to keep Hail useful.

This will cause you immense problems

Tyranitar@Leftovers
252 SPEED / 252 ATT / 6 HP
Jolly Nature
- Crunch
- Earthquake
- Taunt
- Dragon Dance

=/

Your also exceedingly Physical infernape weak

Id maybe put Tentacruel and a Bulky ground type on here


Im thinking Tenta >>> Claydol and it can spin aswell aswell as deals with mixape.

and Gliscor >> Cloyster. This helps with your hera and T-Tar problem.

Remember on a hail/weather team, all your members dont have to be immune to the weather effect.

[ABYAY]

Well, as I said, it's just a team of experimentation, and I do have some Impish Gliscors that I thought about raising, so I might do that sometime soon.

Tentacruel...I forgot where to get Rapid Spin and the EV spread for it.

Alright, so now I look at... Abomasnow *Frosty*, Weavile *YOUR FACE!*, Tentacruel *Tentannoy*, Gliscor (will think of a name), Blissey (Can't rename it due to trade), and Gardevoir (Will think of name as well)

[Dark Azelf]

Well, as I said, it's just a team of experimentation, and I do have some Impish Gliscors that I thought about raising, so I might do that sometime soon.

Tentacruel...I forgot where to get Rapid Spin and the EV spread for it.

Alright, so now I look at... Abomasnow *Frosty*, Weavile *YOUR FACE!*, Tentacruel *Tentannoy*, Gliscor (will think of a name), Blissey (Can't rename it due to trade), and Gardevoir (Will think of name as well)

For rapid spin

Breed a male Squirtle/Wartortle/Blastoise with
a female Kabuto/Kabutops, then breed the resulting male Kabuto with Rapid
Spin to a female Tentacool/Tentacruel.

Tentacruel@Leftovers
204 HP / 96 SP.ATT / 172 SP.DEF / 36 SPEED
Calm Nature
Trait : - Liquid Ooze
- Toxic Spikes / Giga Drain / Hidden power Electric
- Ice beam / Sludge Bomb / Hidden power Electric
- Surf / Hydro Pump
- Rapid Spin

You should be ok with toxic spikes as you have Gliscor, so you wont need to worry about heracross.

Giga Drain 2hkos incoming water/ground types such as swamperts etc

Sludge Bomb gets STAB and deals with bulky waters.

Hidden power Electric 2hkos incoming Gyarados.

Rest of moves are self explanatory.

[Tortured_Soul]

Stallrein Plox.

Walrein@Leftovers
Bold
252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp. Def
Ice Body

Protect
Toxic
Blizzard
Earthquake

With Hail in effect, it regains 1/8 of it's health each turn, when combined with Leftovers. Toxic your opponent, then continue to Protect up your health against physical sweepers. Blizzard takes advantage of the 100% Accuracy from Hail, and Earthquake says bye to Electric and Fire types which can annoy Walrein.

(THis is a Physical Wall)

This is the second most common pokemon behind Abomasnow on a Hail Team...

~T_S

[Anti]

How many rapid spinners do you need? O_o

Any physical attacker that can beat Cloyster (a lot) will eat you up. Heracross will not be nice to you especially, and claydol with no recovery means you're really going to get rocked.

Really, just a few physical hits and you're down and out.

BTW, Abonasnow runs a Subpuncher set a lot and carries leech seed a ton. Something tells me Blissey isn't exactly a common switch-in.

[Syaoran]

Choice Band Ice Shard from Abomasnow might not guarantee a 1HKO on Garchomp.. he is easily stopped by Skarmory, just like the rest of your team in case you lose Gardevoir to Pursuit. SubSeed (Leech Seed or Seed Bomb**) Aboma is usually a lot more annoying, especially with Focus Punch. With the right EV's you can beat Skarmory 1 on 1, 2HKO'ing with Blizzard.

And if you're gonna use Walrein, do Sub + Protect + Surf/Blizzard + Roar, because that is one set that is hard to beat..


** I meant Wood Hammer, not Seed Bomb lol

[Tortured_Soul]

How many rapid spinners do you need? O_o

Any physical attacker that can beat Cloyster (a lot) will eat you up. Heracross will not be nice to you especially, and claydol with no recovery means you're really going to get rocked.

Really, just a few physical hits and you're down and out.

BTW, Abonasnow runs a Subpuncher set a lot and carries leech seed a ton. Something tells me Blissey isn't exactly a common switch-in.

No it isn't, bu Cursepert is I've found, so I run

Focus Punch
Substitute
Grass Knot
Leech Seed / Blizzard

~T_S

[Anti]

Most Abaomnasnow I've seen run Wood Hammer (or some random grass move) Blizzard, Sub, and focus Punch. Why would somebody switch swampert in on something that carries a STAB GRass move? O_o It defies common sense.

[Tortured_Soul]

That's what has me confused, but they expect Focus Punch is all it will carry... o.0

I dunno, but any ghost switches normally too. (Dusknoir almost always, but then it cannot break the sub without Fire Punch...)

~T_S

[ABYAY]

Alright, I updated my team with Tenta and Gliscor. I still like CB Abomasnow because it's a lot of fun to use ^^

[Anti]

No Thunder Fang on Gliscor...just...ever. It has no business staying in on Gyarados, and Wacan Berry is somewhat common. Heck, you'd be better off using Stone Edge on Gliscor, and stone Edge is terrible on it.

Use Ice Fang (Aerial Ace works too.)

I still don't get that Abomasnow set. EQ and Focus Punch have very similar coverage. I really hope Focus Punch is for something other than Blissey, since Bliss is a stupid switch into Abomasnow. EQ isn't needed though.

[ABYAY]

I might try to remove quake for something else. Focus Punch also hits things that can alter the weather (like Tyranitar coming in to absorb a Blizzard.) Basically, It's a first time I've wanted to try Focus Punch on something, and since Jolly with great IVs came by, I took D.Azelf's set for a Choice Band Abomasnow, and I like it a pretty good bit.

-_- Re-update with Gliscor change.

[Tortured_Soul]

No quake plesh. Add Substitute and take CB off. Most likely you'll find yourself on the receiving end of a Gengar switch, then you'll be forced to switch, or be killed...

~T_S

[silver%]

is ice shard an option


y not just set out some rocks and pwn from there......