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richboybert
February 11th, 2008, 06:01 PM
Pokémon Rich Edition

Base Rom:
Pokémon Ruby (RUBYAXVE01)

Region:
Molto-Ricco

about:
Well Basically this isn't a HUGE hack like the rest you've seen but rather a twist on the normal gameplay of Pokemon Ruby. Everything is more deluxe and everyone treats you differently because you are rich. It would be an understatement to say you're living in a superficial world. Please try and tell me what you think. I know it has a few bugs.

Features:
New History(In the making)
New Characters
New Graphics
New Starters
New Towns
New Evolutions

Pictures:
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee15/richboybert/BoyORGIRL.pnghttp://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee15/richboybert/AFTERTRUCK.png
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee15/richboybert/KABUTO.pnghttp://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee15/richboybert/MEW.png
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee15/richboybert/CASTFORM.pnghttp://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee15/richboybert/NURSEJOY.png
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee15/richboybert/OAKRIDGEPATH.pnghttp://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee15/richboybert/OAKSEND.png

adamb241
February 12th, 2008, 03:05 PM
I don't think you should start out with any of those starters you have chosen. Castform doesn't evolve and doesn't really learn any good moves. Mew...He is just MEW, never start out with legendaries. Kubto Is a rare Pokemon that can only be gotten one, pick some other combo. Yo also should work on your maps. They don't look to great.

Virtual Chatot
February 12th, 2008, 03:07 PM
This shouldn't even be considered a hack, this is something along the lines of Pokemon Dragonstone or Pokemon Chaos Black.

+Sneasel™
February 12th, 2008, 03:09 PM
i'm very sorry, but this hack looks terrible!
Your sprite is bad, your maps have errors, the truck looks flat, and the starters you picked are awful!
I would learn wayyyyyyy more about hacking before even trying to make another one!

Twinx
February 12th, 2008, 03:15 PM
Well, the hero overworld and his sprite are ok.. I like them.

The truck doesn't really look like a truck though...

Your mapping needs a lot of work.. never fill out a town with flowers.
My suggestion is to check out some mapping tutorials and check out other people's work in the map rating thread. That way you can see what your maps should look like.

The starters, as stated before, just don't work.
The worst of 'em is mew. Why would anyone give away a mew???

I don't see any scripting.. oh well..

richboybert
February 12th, 2008, 05:20 PM
Note that there are new evolutions....Mew evolves to Mewtwo....Castform evovles to Deoxys....

And Don't be too hard on me....I am an amateur who just thought this would be a cool twist on Pokemon Ruby...I don't intend to make this a HUGE hack with complete new scripts because that would take a year or more....

Well, the hero overworld and his sprite are ok.. I like them.

The truck doesn't really look like a truck though...

Your mapping needs a lot of work.. never fill out a town with flowers.
My suggestion is to check out some mapping tutorials and check out other people's work in the map rating thread. That way you can see what your maps should look like.

The starters, as stated before, just don't work.
The worst of 'em is mew. Why would anyone give away a mew???

I don't see any scripting.. oh well..

Play the game and you shall see why

Night_Blue
February 12th, 2008, 05:43 PM
Those evolutions dont sound good and dont make sense
If you can sprite,then you should create an evolution for them or just change the starters again.

And mew shouldnt be a starter,that ruins the ''challenging'' part of the game

EDIT: srry if I sounded mean

+Sneasel™
February 12th, 2008, 05:43 PM
why would mew evolve into mewtwo and castform evolve into deoxys?
This hack isn't good at all, i would consider learning a lot more.
I mean, i know you don't want this to be a big hack, but the way this is going, you'd be lucky if 1 person wanted to play this at all.

richboybert
February 12th, 2008, 05:47 PM
Those evolutions dont sound good and dont make sense
If you can sprite,then you should create an evolution for them or just change the starters again.

And mew shouldnt be a starter,that ruins the ''challenging'' part of the game

I don't know how...sigh...

adamb241
February 12th, 2008, 05:50 PM
There a ton of tile errors every where....I suggest looking at your maps again.

Yoshimi
February 12th, 2008, 06:14 PM
Sorry richboybert but it should have a completely different story instead of you just being rich.
The beginning pokemon should be more original like a decision between treecko, squirtle, and charmander.
I myself think the sprites are okay but you have a lot of tile errors.
E.G. none of the ledges have an end.

kebbles
February 12th, 2008, 06:27 PM
Hey don't worry buddy...
The game isnt lookin to good so far, but i'm sure if you keep at it you'll get better.
Trust me, do scripting!
It won't take a "year" to make if u do.
Anyway you have my support unlike everyone else, for some reason...
They should always support fellow hackers...

PlasticPokeball
February 12th, 2008, 08:00 PM
Don't let anyone tell you what you can or cannot do.

Obviously you're new to this, okay, no problem. Everyone's a beginner sometime. I'm a beginner. And yeah it needs some work but, just work on it. You'll learn everything soon enough (not a year) and it will be worth it.

But, hey, I'm a beginner, so what do I know?

richboybert
February 12th, 2008, 09:50 PM
Hey don't worry buddy...
The game isnt lookin to good so far, but i'm sure if you keep at it you'll get better.
Trust me, do scripting!
It won't take a "year" to make if u do.
Anyway you have my support unlike everyone else, for some reason...
They should always support fellow hackers...


thanks for the support and i guess it can be done in a year with the sacrifice of sleep and social life and those r 2 very important things to me

Virtual Chatot
February 12th, 2008, 09:55 PM
thanks for the support and i guess it can be done in a year with the sacrifice of sleep and social life and those r 2 very important things to me

Umm...No
I do my hacking work when I'm bored, and I still find the time to get 9 hours of sleep and have an active social life ( Girlfriend, Schoolwork, Movies with Friends, ect )

Once you start hacking more and more, the faster you get stuff done

Sean94
February 12th, 2008, 11:38 PM
cool a fossil as a starter. great idea.

Flashpoint
February 13th, 2008, 12:08 AM
This is pretty good
But the only thing you need to fix is the starters and how they evolve
You should think of starters that are not legendary
And kabuto isnt a good starter for the beggning (his moveset,unless you change it)
EDIT :Since your new,Ill support this hack

EDIT 2 : ghost1 -you mean that this hack had cussing in it,I lost my support for this hack

Twinx
February 13th, 2008, 02:17 AM
Hackers do support each other.. but we won't be supporting you if we lie to you and tell you "Looks great! Keep it up! Can't wait to play this!"

We're trying to help you by telling you what you're doing wrong.
I may have sounded mean, but I wasn't trying to be.

I was a noob myself, and I'm still a noob in scripting, but I'm taking my time to learn, you should do the same.

Good luck :)

mistersmeargle
February 13th, 2008, 04:10 AM
As before, there's been better mapping and over-flowering a town is never a good idea.

If you really want to be different with the starters there are other type-triangles other than the traditional Grass-Water-Fire, there are also Grass-Poison-Ground, Rock-Steel-Fire, Fighting-Flying-Rock and although it is a tad unfair a triangle and not generally included in the triangles, Dark-Psychic-Fighting does sometimes work.

AntiRellik
February 13th, 2008, 08:19 AM
I'd suggest practicing with this one, then start off again from a complete clean rom.
You've got tiles used unproperly... and a huge ammount of flowers on a town doesn't look good XD
The sprites look a little messy, you should put a little more effort.
The starters aren't a good combo either.
You shouldn't put Mew as a starter. Kabuto is alright though, the others just don't fit. You could put something like Kabuto and Omanyte as starters, and some other small fossil Pokemon.
The best thing you can do with this "hack" is practice.

Oh, and be sure to read those mapping tutorials ;) I saw one and it was great.
I didn't need to learn to map, I was bored and I just decided to check it and see if there wasn't something more interesting in the thread, and there was..... It made me laugh lol

mistersmeargle
February 14th, 2008, 03:55 AM
If you want my advice on starters, though I already gave you some, try Shroomish, Staryu and Houndour. They're a new twist on the starters, plus they all have dual-type on their second evo, which forms a Fighting-Psychic-Dark triangle.

4fetter0_0
February 14th, 2008, 03:49 PM
If you want my advice on starters, though I already gave you some, try Shroomish, Staryu and Houndour. They're a new twist on the starters, plus they all have dual-type on their second evo, which forms a Fighting-Psychic-Dark triangle.

Those are best starters I ever heard in my life

mistersmeargle
February 15th, 2008, 04:56 AM
They were originally going to be the starters for my hack Pokémon Obsidian before I ditched the idea.

richboybert
February 17th, 2008, 10:44 AM
I dont think those starters you suggested are good...those pokemon are rather lame

adamb241
February 17th, 2008, 10:53 AM
Who cares if they are lame, they work.

Antwhan
February 17th, 2008, 11:18 AM
well, in the grand scheme of things here, i would liek to say cudos to you richboybert, for coming up with a concept so meager that it barly has merit. Out of those choices for starters, mst people would take the mew, which is to say bad considering legends make horrid starters.

Everything is more deluxe and everyone treats you differently because you are rich. It would be an understatement to say you're living in a superficial world.

If EVERYTHNG is more expensive and superficial then wouldnt that mean everyone would have more money? So they wouldn't really treat you different?

I don't mean to hate, but look at it this way... if you want to make a twist on things, dont increase costs in places or add nonsensical evos (castform into deoxys..wtf?). Make yourself special, unique, not a small time thing. Try and innovate. If not innovate, then create.

If your going to make a hack with no major changes, then dont bother posting it. You'll get torn apart, which is the sad case here in the scrap forum, and how some actually good hacks get buried in the crap.

I'm not singling you out bert, but does this idea even appeal to yourself?

Anyway...novel concept, poor execution...

mistersmeargle
February 17th, 2008, 03:30 PM
I don't see how those starters are lame, their base stats rival those of most starters, though in retrospect, I shouldn't have included Staryu as Staryu evolves by a stone. Instead try Slowpoke, Houndour and Shroomish.

richboybert
February 18th, 2008, 09:32 PM
well, in the grand scheme of things here, i would liek to say cudos to you richboybert, for coming up with a concept so meager that it barly has merit. Out of those choices for starters, mst people would take the mew, which is to say bad considering legends make horrid starters.



If EVERYTHNG is more expensive and superficial then wouldnt that mean everyone would have more money? So they wouldn't really treat you different?

I don't mean to hate, but look at it this way... if you want to make a twist on things, dont increase costs in places or add nonsensical evos (castform into deoxys..wtf?). Make yourself special, unique, not a small time thing. Try and innovate. If not innovate, then create.

If your going to make a hack with no major changes, then dont bother posting it. You'll get torn apart, which is the sad case here in the scrap forum, and how some actually good hacks get buried in the crap.

I'm not singling you out bert, but does this idea even appeal to yourself?

Anyway...novel concept, poor execution...


dude ur talking about sitting down for hours upon hours learning how to script, sprite, map, etc which is extremely timeconsuming to learn, much less to do....dont got time for that son...the earrings in my overworld is something new which i have seen noone come up with which i think people should add to their overworlds....earrings r cool!


I don't see how those starters are lame, their base stats rival those of most starters, though in retrospect, I shouldn't have included Staryu as Staryu evolves by a stone. Instead try Slowpoke, Houndour and Shroomish.

slowpoke....just pink and boring....Houndour...maybe the best one suggested....Shroomish....yellow with green dots...luks so ugly...yuck...pokemon is all about the beauty of the pokemon before stats in my book

Antwhan
February 19th, 2008, 03:32 AM
well it doesnt take hours upon hours 2 learn how to do any of those things. but w/e dont try. dont learn how to do cool things.

Add silly earings and hate on pkmn that are unique and strong, just because they are not beautiful, in your own eyes.

but honestly... ur big draw is earings?

joeypants89
February 19th, 2008, 04:14 AM
The starters to me seem a little random; how will a Kabutops stand up to Mewtwo or Deoxys in the long run? As this is a Ruby based hack, Kabutops loses night slash as its primary psychic busting skill.

Why not focus on pokémon that aren't rare in everyone's eyes, but in the eyes of NPC's such as Pokémaniacs? Your starters could be Zangoose and Seviper, or Meowth and Growlithe (mongoose vs. snake // dog vs. cat, the matchups are endless. Not to mention Persian is awesome :[).

If you're adamant about using legendaries then try Suicune, Entei and Raikou, or the legendary birds for type differences; monotony is no fun.
Experiment! However not to the point where your game becomes unbalanced.

Good luck!

Antwhan
February 19th, 2008, 01:00 PM
The starters to me seem a little random; how will a Kabutops stand up to Mewtwo or Deoxys in the long run? As this is a Ruby based hack, Kabutops loses night slash as its primary psychic busting skill.

Why not focus on pokémon that aren't rare in everyone's eyes, but in the eyes of NPC's such as Pokémaniacs? Your starters could be Zangoose and Seviper, or Meowth and Growlithe (mongoose vs. snake // dog vs. cat, the matchups are endless. Not to mention Persian is awesome :[).

If you're adamant about using legendaries then try Suicune, Entei and Raikou, or the legendary birds for type differences; monotony is no fun.
Experiment! However not to the point where your game becomes unbalanced.

Good luck!

Wow...surprisingly inteligent statement from a newcomer... I am amazed...

and also agree with that interesting idea, mke it more sense to use a legendary trio or a natural enemies other than choices picked out of a hat. so to speak...


ps- Welcome joeypants89 if u didn't get one yet

mistersmeargle
February 19th, 2008, 01:12 PM
Hmmm... I have a number of things to say about this:
1. I'm surprised this is still going.

Actually in retrospect I had very little to say, oh well.

Cynic Kaka
February 21st, 2008, 04:36 PM
This'll never work......lol

Tanro
February 21st, 2008, 05:16 PM
Wow. I have to say that you have a serious problem Bert. You dont want to do anything for yourself. Sounds like you may be spoiled IRL. I have been modding video games for years and I decided to come back to my roots with a pokemon hack, a lot this stuff is simply nitty gritty coding, hex editing and that stuff. I am a total newb to this scene but, I was hacking xcom back in the day with notepad paint and a hexeditor.

I have been doing kotor and fable stuff recently with a small detour into GTA: SA. Sadly I would have to say I see people that want there work done for them in all these places. I like your idea, it just needs some work. The starters however are terrible and Mew shouldn't evolve into mewtwo thats a terrible idea. Mew and Mewtwo server two different purposes. Mewtwo was a pretty versatile sweeper back in the day while mew is a general purpose pokemon that could learn any HM or TM .

And having a three legendaries in the evolving line of your starters is terrible.

The suggested trio is a fine starting set though I prefer my starter to have two evolutions to my starters. Slopoke, Hondour, and Shroomish are all decent pokemon for pve play.

I think if your going the richboy route you Don't have a pokedex quest, and you make the starters the Rare pokemon that NPCs have.

Growlithe, Pikachu, Snubull, Magmar, Jinx, Electabuzz, Marill, Phanphy, Skarmory just to name a few. Try and look at what the Pokefanatics, Richkids, and Cooltrainers have and go from there.

mistersmeargle
February 22nd, 2008, 09:05 AM
Wow. I have to say that you have a serious problem Bert. You dont want to do anything for yourself. Sounds like you may be spoiled IRL. I have been modding video games for years and I decided to come back to my roots with a pokemon hack, a lot this stuff is simply nitty gritty coding, hex editing and that stuff. I am a total newb to this scene but, I was hacking xcom back in the day with notepad paint and a hexeditor.

I have been doing kotor and fable stuff recently with a small detour into GTA: SA. Sadly I would have to say I see people that want there work done for them in all these places. I like your idea, it just needs some work. The starters however are terrible and Mew shouldn't evolve into mewtwo thats a terrible idea. Mew and Mewtwo server two different purposes. Mewtwo was a pretty versatile sweeper back in the day while mew is a general purpose pokemon that could learn any HM or TM .

And having a three legendaries in the evolving line of your starters is terrible.

The suggested trio is a fine starting set though I prefer my starter to have two evolutions to my starters. Slopoke, Hondour, and Shroomish are all decent pokemon for pve play.

I think if your going the richboy route you Don't have a pokedex quest, and you make the starters the Rare pokemon that NPCs have.

Growlithe, Pikachu, Snubull, Magmar, Jinx, Electabuzz, Marill, Phanphy, Skarmory just to name a few. Try and look at what the Pokefanatics, Richkids, and Cooltrainers have and go from there.

Well done. Well done.
And about the two-stage starters thing, I agree, that's why I originally suggested Staryu but obviously as a stone evo he would be out of place. So I suggested Slowpoke because bert would be too lazy to edit evolutions to get a Slowking.

+Sneasel™
February 22nd, 2008, 09:12 AM
Wow. I have to say that you have a serious problem Bert. You dont want to do anything for yourself. Sounds like you may be spoiled IRL. I have been modding video games for years and I decided to come back to my roots with a pokemon hack, a lot this stuff is simply nitty gritty coding, hex editing and that stuff. I am a total newb to this scene but, I was hacking xcom back in the day with notepad paint and a hexeditor.

I have been doing kotor and fable stuff recently with a small detour into GTA: SA. Sadly I would have to say I see people that want there work done for them in all these places. I like your idea, it just needs some work. The starters however are terrible and Mew shouldn't evolve into mewtwo thats a terrible idea. Mew and Mewtwo server two different purposes. Mewtwo was a pretty versatile sweeper back in the day while mew is a general purpose pokemon that could learn any HM or TM .

And having a three legendaries in the evolving line of your starters is terrible.

The suggested trio is a fine starting set though I prefer my starter to have two evolutions to my starters. Slopoke, Hondour, and Shroomish are all decent pokemon for pve play.

I think if your going the richboy route you Don't have a pokedex quest, and you make the starters the Rare pokemon that NPCs have.

Growlithe, Pikachu, Snubull, Magmar, Jinx, Electabuzz, Marill, Phanphy, Skarmory just to name a few. Try and look at what the Pokefanatics, Richkids, and Cooltrainers have and go from there.

Wow, you actually said something useful, well done *claps*
lol, most newcomers are n00bs, but you are something else *more claps*
He doesn't know what he's doing, and he wants people to do it for him!

I think he needs to wait longer before hacking...maybe learn a lot some new things.

mistersmeargle
February 22nd, 2008, 05:19 PM
Wow, you actually said something useful, well done *claps*
lol, most newcomers are n00bs, but you are something else *more claps*
He doesn't know what he's doing, and he wants people to do it for him!

I think he needs to wait longer before hacking...maybe learn a lot some new things.

He doesn't need to learn some new things he needs to learn something.

And what was I when I joined? I hope I wasn't a n00b...

Yoshimi
February 22nd, 2008, 05:35 PM
Huh i'm surprised people are still posting on this.
This game has no surprises in it.
Just the same old story except that you are rich.
the idea of castform evolving into deoxys is ludicrous like every non n00b in the PC.
Legendary pokemon are meant to be caught not for 1 usually pathetic pokemon to evolve into a sweeper.
You have no experience in mapping,the easiest part of a hack other than the plot.not that i was surprised this was coming from a n00b.Learn some scripting,mapping,plotting (especially) lessons in the documents/tutorials section.
you shouldn't take complaints on this thread onto other threads like Neorocket thieves just because they don't like your game. Did you even ask someone here if that was a good story or not? Make a game when you learn some hacking lessons and next time,if there ever is a next time,make sure the plot is good.

Tyrantrum
February 23rd, 2008, 01:31 PM
I don't know about the rest of you, but I personally like MEW as a starter.
But you do need to improve your maps and try to learn scripting.
I'm trying to learn scripting, too.
Fix the part where all those arrows are at OAKS END route.
GL.

mistersmeargle
February 23rd, 2008, 04:05 PM
I don't know about the rest of you, but I personally like MEW as a starter.
But you do need to improve your maps and try to learn scripting.
I'm trying to learn scripting, too.
Fix the part where all those arrows are at OAKS END route.
GL.

If you have Mew as a starter, his hundred-all-round stats and learn-all-most-any-move will take all the challenge out of the game. Bert doesn't want this to be a big hack, but it's obviously not going anywhere, he hasn't even replied here for days.