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Wichu
February 18th, 2008, 02:15 PM
-=Pokémon Amethyst=-
Well, a lot of you may have noticed me in the thread of Pokémon Essentials helping out, and some of you may be using some of my add-ons I made for it.
You may have been wondering what kind of game I was making. Well, this is it - Pokémon Amethyst's official thread!
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Misc/logo.png
Yes, I know other games have the same name as this, but I don't care. The name was thought of independently.
General Information
Pokémon Amethyst is a game made with RPG Maker XP, using poccil's amazing Pokémon Essentials (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=105731).
I, the game's creator, am a decent spriter, scripter and mapper, as you should be able to see from the screens.
It is set in the brand-new Shika region, which is located east of Hoenn, and west of Johto.
It will feature all 493 existing Pokémon, as well as around 150 new ones.
It is made in Advance style due to the limitations of RMXP (no 3D), but features improved graphics over the GBA games (see the battle screenshot).
Also, unlike most Essentials games, it will feature a full Diamond/Pearl battle system! Yes, Amethyst will feature all the new Diamond and Pearl attacks, items and abilities! It will also have many new items, moves and abilities exclusive to this game!
Story
First, the Legend of Shika.
The first part is based on the Creation Myth of Sinnoh, just to clarify. From the point beginning "The land of Shika", the legend was created by me.
In the beginning, there was the void.
From the void emerged the Original One.
It spawned two creatures, the Creators.
Individually, the Creators made time and space.
However, the new universe seemed empty.
So from the Creators' power combined was born the Life Giver.
The Life Giver created hundreds of different living beings.
But it still was not satisfied.
So it molded the Beings of the Spirit into its own image.
They were: the Being of Wisdom, the Being of Willpower, and the Being of Emotion.
Thus, all life was imbued with spirit and personality.
Many thousands of years passed.
The land of Shika became home to three nations: the Nations of Wisdom, Willpower and Emotion.
These three nations thrived, worshipping the Beings of the Spirit.
However, there was unrest.
The People of Wisdom were greedy for knowledge. The People of Willpower were rash, and easily aggravated. The People of Emotion shunned outsiders, staying in a close-knit community.
Disasters started to happen.
The People of Wisdom were deceived and their ruler became corrupted under a malevolent force.
The People of Willpower fell into a bloody war, guided by an unseen hand.
The People of Emotion were struck down by a disease, spreading among their packed towns like wildfire.
Then, the Original One learned of the catastrophe.
It saw the cause was three Shadow Beasts, which were not spawned from the Life Giver.
They were not living creatures. They were the Children of the Dead.
So the Original One gave life to the Celestial Guard.
The power of the Celestial Guard sealed the Shadow Beasts away, seemingly for eternity. However, the power of the Celestial Guard was drained too, so it fell into an endless slumber.
That is the mythology of the Shika Region.
The story of Amethyst starts similarly to the original games: you, as a young Trainer-to-be, live in Hazelet Town, a quiet town in the Shika region. You are woken by your best friend to collect your first Pokémon from the Pokémon Professor, Prof. Maple. However, Maple is nowhere to be seen! A quick search reveals that she has been ambushed by a mysterious duo, on Route 47!
Your friend helps you defeat the strangers with Professor Maple's Pokémon, and Maple gives you them as a sign of gratitude. But there is a condition. Maple sends you on a quest to visit her colleague Arturo, one of the leading scientists in the deeply-forested Shika region. It turns out that the Necro grunts, who had attacked her earlier, were after some research she had luckily given to Arturo to examine! Your quest: collect these documents. Sounds simple, doesn't it? But little does anyone know that Team Necro are on the move, and after a special prize!
Team Necro have learned of the Legend of Shika, and are attempting to resurrect the Shadow Beasts. But to what ends? The fate of the land rests with a group of young trainers, of which the player is part of! But will they be strong enough to defeat Team Necro? Or will the land of Shika fall into ruin?
The Land of Shika
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Screenshots/Screenshot090.png
A screen straight from the PokéGear.
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Misc/lmap.png
The enlarged map which appears when you zoom in.
I will be announcing the names and details of places leading up to the demo.
Hazelet Town
A small town situated in south Shika, it is home to the hero, as well as the renowned Professor Maple. The northern exit of the town brings you to Route 47.
Route 47
A short, forested path leading north from Hazelet. The east side of the route is a winding maze, rumoured to be home to a rare and powerful Pokémon. However, two stout trees stubbornly block the path.
Route 48
A route cutting through the dense outskirts of the largest forest in the region. The route extends east as far as the eye can see - however, your destination is to the north-west, making the path much more manageable.
Rainglade City
The smallest city in Shika, it is barely bigger than Hazelet Town. However, it contains the Pokémon Academy, useful for young trainers to hone their skills. The most successful students will eventually have the chance to enroll in the prestigious Pokémon Trainers' University, far north of Rainglade.
Route 57
A long route winding through the rainforest. It will be a challenge to get through this route in the game, as it is one of the longer routes the player will face at the start of their journey. A rope bridge crosses a wide river at the north of the route.
The Team
Spriters: Nopie, Bakuphoon, Houndoomed, KageX and The Smell have contributed sprites so far, and Crossel and Zorin have also volunteered.
Musicians: In the first demo, I will probably be using the D/P music. However, Lorem Ipsum and Lubricus have volunteered to create music.
Designers: Hoppy, Blu, Darth Meanie and Nopie have created several designs so far.
Ideas: Pretty much half the people in this thread :P
I am also filling those roles myself, as well as the other jobs not mentioned such as scripting and mapping.
Pokémon
The Shika region features many Pokémon endemic to its shores. I will be updating this list whenever I decide to release a new Pokémon, but these should tide you over for now:
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3760/wichuqc5.png
Wichu Type: Normal
Hehe, I named myself after this Pokémon. It's quite cute, no?
Its ability, Free Float, allows it to fly up into the air and become Flying-type. Its evolution is also rumoured to share this unique ability.
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Pokemon/bushby.png
Bushby Type: Normal
It has a very curious and playful personality. Its tail hasn't fully developed yet, so it uses its hands instead :P
Named after the bushbaby, a type of monkey - see here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galago).
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Pokemon/chacaw.png
Chacaw Type: Normal/Flying
It keeps rhythm with others while singing using its three tails. This ensures it always sings in time.
Chacaw, and its pre-evo Chatot, are receiving a new ability (along with a few other Pokémon). It is based on the macaw, a type of brightly-coloured parrot.
The Starters
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5399/494dipleafcc5.png
Dipleaf Type: Grass
It stays out in the sun for as long as it can, as it gets its energy from the sun's rays.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1239/497charcubcu0.png
Charcub/Ignicub/etc (name undecided) Type: Fire
It is a cute, lovable creature. However, hugging it may have burning consequences.
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/8664/500axolitlgg3.png
Axolitl Type: Water
It swims swiftly in water, its normal habitat. However, it cannot move as swiftly on land with its stubby legs.
And now, what you've all been waiting for - screenshots!
Screenshots
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/1788/screenshot006uk9.pnghttp://img240.imageshack.us/img240/6948/screenshot010ck9.pnghttp://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Screenshots/Screenshot088.pnghttp://img240.imageshack.us/img240/606/screenshot009nb4.png
A sequence of screenshots showing the title sequence.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee78/wichu/Title2.gif
The title screen as it appears in-game, in all its animated glory. By the way, the grass animates, the frame skip just makes it look stationary.
The legendaries are being redesigned - the above screenshots are outdated. I'll post the new legendaries when I finish them.
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7406/screenshot011il2.png
Huh? Mystery Gift? I wonder what you can do with it...
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Screenshots/Screenshot110.png
The male and female heroes a.k.a. the professor can't tell your gender... again.
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9933/screenshot014vn9.png
The entrance to Route 47. Nothing much to say here.
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/802/screenshot007gg5.png
Showing off my "quick Pokémon check" system. Thanks to poccil for fixing up a few bugs with it!
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Animations/QuickPokeSwitch3.gif
Switching Pokémon by holding Shift and pressing up/down on the start menu.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee78/wichu/StarterSelection.gif
The starter selection screen.
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5581/screenshot005qa5.png
Battle screen! Yes, those are percentages for the HP and Exp of the battlers.
DISCLAIMER: All screenshots shown are from a version of the game in development. This means that the may depict features which will be changed in the actual game. Also, the team in the menu screen and both Pokémon in the battle screen are for testing purposes only, it is not guaranteed you will be able to catch those Pokémon early in the game.
Completion Level
Removed due to inaccuracy :(
Help Needed
Well, I can't do all of this alone.
...
OK, maybe I can. But I still would rather have a few helpers :D.
I need:
Ideas. Very important. For moves, abilities and items. All suggestions will be considered.
A musician. I'm not that good at making Pokémon-style music, so if anyone has any experience with making town, route or battle music, feel free to help out.
Spriters. To help sprite out the DP Pokémon in Advance style (because DP sprites use different shading and colours). The sprites must be 64x64, and 100% scratch, like this:http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4849/shinxsmallsh6.png
Anyone who helps will receive a mystery gift, and depending on the amount, an NPC in the game too.
Credits
Here, I give thanks to all who help me.
Most importantly, poccil, for making such an amazing starter kit and helping me when I got stuck with the scripts!
Flameguru/Harshboy, for providing the foundations of the starter kit!
Houndoomed, for the awesome map tutorial!
Hoppy (a real-life friend), for working with me to design Pokémon!
And last but not least, the rest of my real-life friends for supporting me with making this game!
Let me know if you think you should be on this list.
Support Amethyst!
A Userbar I made.
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Support/Userbar1-1.png (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=127318)
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Support/Userbar1-1.png (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=127318)
The counterpart to the above userbar :D
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Support/Userbar2.png (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=127318)
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Support/Userbar2.png (http://pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=127318)
Starter Userbars (credit to Testrum):
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Support/Dipleaf-Userbar.png (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=127318)
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Support/Dipleaf-Userbar.png (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=127318)
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Support/Charcub-Userbar.png (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=127318)
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Support/Charcub-Userbar.png (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=127318)
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Support/Axolitl-Userbar.png (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=127318)
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Support/Axolitl-Userbar.png (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=127318)
Random Thanks
Nintendo and Game Freak, for making Pokémon. Duh.
Hoppy again, for introducing me to Pokémon.
Anyone who replies to this thread.
Serebii, for helping me get better.
Smogon, for taking over from Serebii.
And all Pokémon players, for making sure this great game doesn't die.
By the way, if you haven't already, get yourself a DS and Diamond or Pearl. You'll enjoy it.
Lorem Ipsum
February 19th, 2008, 01:21 PM
This looks excellent, Wichu. The battle system looks the best out of the shots.
.Kai
February 19th, 2008, 01:24 PM
Oh, wow. If anyone hasn't toldd you yet, you're extremly talented in game-making and spriting :D
Henry987
February 19th, 2008, 01:27 PM
wow wichu nice, may I ask you how you did the intro title screen... I have wondering that a long time to make a movie intro, hmmm. If you can help me plz pm me :D
Olz.
February 19th, 2008, 01:33 PM
Wow! This looks amazing!! I'm so supporting this :D
Lorem Ipsum
February 19th, 2008, 01:43 PM
Oh, and Happy Birthday also, Wichu! Have a great one!
Henry987
February 19th, 2008, 01:51 PM
oh yea forgot that too.... HAPPY B-DAY WICHU!!!!
Yuoaman
February 19th, 2008, 05:26 PM
Awesome screens, one of the more professional-looking projects, though your Pokemon sprites could use a little work- make 'em more 'Pokemoney', if that makes sense. Well anyway good job, and happy birthday!!
Lorem Ipsum
February 19th, 2008, 05:31 PM
Hellowichuthar.
Can I apply for music dude? I have a distinction in Grade 5 musical theory, and a distinction in Grade 4 piano (taking piano exam in March). I have proper music composition software, and it would be brilliant if I could work for you.
Neo-Dragon
February 19th, 2008, 05:35 PM
Pretty impressive.
I like how to try to add your own style of recolors and graphics to mix things up a bit. Nice touch.
The region seems pretty cool to.
Hopefully this works out for you!
Ludicario
February 19th, 2008, 05:40 PM
Cool Pokemon
Is the pokemon checking picture a glitch?
Yuoaman
February 19th, 2008, 05:42 PM
Nooo..... It lets you see what Pokemon you have quickly without going into the menu....
Ludicario
February 19th, 2008, 05:45 PM
Oh my mistake
The battle scene looks weird did you sprite it yourself
Wichu
February 19th, 2008, 06:00 PM
Yuoaman, which sprite[s] in particular?
Lorem, sure. Could you send me a sample of your work? Perhaps a "Wild Pokémon Battle" MIDI? Anyway, you're ahead of me in music qualifications - I'm going to be taking Grade 5 Theory in June :P
Ludicario: What's odd about it, and should I change it? And yes, I made the graphics and scripted the percentages for HP and Exp. It's one of my only scripts which I didn't need help with. Poccil helped me with the menu Pokémon checker, the Map script, and others.
In conclusion, I'm glad you all like it! I'll make some support banners tomorrow. I also need to update the Story section with the "Legend of Shika" - you can look forward to that!
P.S. As of now, I am officially 15 years old. Whoo!
Backmaster
February 20th, 2008, 04:58 PM
hey! love the screenshots and the dp features... really impressive keep it up.
But your titlescreen and your banner aren´t any good! Pm me if you want some help with them ;)
Lorem Ipsum
February 20th, 2008, 05:23 PM
Uhm, Wichu, I started composing a Wild theme, but now I have a tune which I think would better suit the rival battle or overworld... is this OK for the test piece?
Wichu
February 20th, 2008, 05:49 PM
Backmaster: That's because I made the banners in 5 minutes :P
And the title screen looks a lot better in-game, because it's animated. I might try and get an animation of it up.
Lorem, sure. That would be great, too!
EDIT: This thread is the 11th result when searching for pokemon amthyst on Google! That means we're only 1 off the first page! Help me get it to the top!
EDIT 2: And if you put the accent on the é, it's 10th! We made it to the first page!
darth meanie
February 22nd, 2008, 02:12 PM
I cant sprite at all, but I can draw, scan, and design alot of my ideas. I have actually been floating around 70 or so pokemon ideas in my head, complete with stats, movesets, abilities etc. I'm also on smogon, and I'd like to help. Did you come up with starters yet? I have been working on a particularly well-balanced set. A Grass/Dark, Water/Fighting, and Fire/Psychic. If you want some of my designs, I'll scan and upload them, with base stats, abilities, and movepools of course. I also have some ideas for the routes. I've always thought that the pokemon games needed more dungeons.
PS: Dont expect incredible shading or anything. I'm a designer, not an artist.
Wichu
February 22nd, 2008, 02:17 PM
OK, I made an animation of the title screen, to show that it's not just like that. (WARNING: Large file size)
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee78/wichu/Animation.gif
Sorry for the random coloured pixels in the animation - GIFs can only use a certain number of colours, so a few pixels get changed.
Backmaster, if you want to make some banners, feel free to do so.
EDIT: Sorry, didn't see you there :P.
I already have the starters ready, but if yours are better, I might consider it. You could PM me a few of your Pokémon designs, if you want.
If you have any suggestions for new moves, please post them too!
I probably won't have much use for the routes, because I already have a world map (see first post). Dungeon designs would be welcome; I could PM you a list of some dungeons, if you want to plan them out.
Houndoomed
February 22nd, 2008, 03:06 PM
This game is looking very promising and everything, very nice custom stuff, but I am fed up with peope who have almost the exact same storyline as my game.
I have counted, and this is the 3rd (and possibly 4th, but I remember one of them being changed) storyline that almost copies Pokemon Scarlet's. I believe I came up with the idea of the Professor being kidnapped first over a year ago, and soon after I saw fangames with the same idea. I don't even care that our Professors have the same name, it's just that it seems to be more than just 'coinicidence' that so many fangames have all of a sudden got this 'Kidnapped professor' storyline.
I just wanted to point that out, because the next game I see with a similar storyline will make me change my game's storyline. You may think that I'm going crazy here, but you should understand the reason why I'm angry.
But with all of that aside, good luck with your game ;)
Wichu
February 22nd, 2008, 03:56 PM
Sorry!
I didn't see the story of your game until after I decided on my story. Anyway, in my game, perhaps 'kidnap' is the wrong word? From what I've managed to do on RMXP, it's turning out to be a brief ambush. I'll change the description in the first post.
Falling Star
February 22nd, 2008, 09:08 PM
Impressive. Though not exactly a veteran at looking at fanmade games, I reckon that once this is done it'll be one of the greats. You are an excellent spriter- It looks quite "Pokémoney", but still I can see some uniqueness.
I can help with designing some Pokémon, if you need another person to do so. I am also a rookie spriter. Consdier me interested~!
Yuoaman
February 22nd, 2008, 10:36 PM
The sprite I find not very Pokemoney is Wichu, it just seems a little to angular, maybe round it out, and make it eyes large, though i do like your other Chimecho evo... I also really like your title screen.
Neo04
February 23rd, 2008, 02:00 AM
woah cool. Cant wait till its finnished!
Wichu
February 23rd, 2008, 01:33 PM
Falling Star: Sure, we could do with another designer! Can you make scratch sprites?
Yuoaman: How about this?
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9933/wichu2do0.png
Anyway, I'm going to be using day-night tinting in battle too. Screens:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3057/screenshot016gf9.png
Morning
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9716/screenshot015is8.png
Day
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8913/screenshot018bl3.png
Evening
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9808/screenshot017iz1.png
Night
And finally, we don't need designers any more. However, I am looking for spriters to sprite the DP Pokémon in Advance style (like Shinx in the screenshots). This is because the DP sprites use a different style from the Advance sprites, and I'm sticking with Advance for this game.
The sprites should be at least as good as my sprites, and should be in 64x64 resolution, scaled up to 128x128. I will not accept simple resizes of DP sprites, as they have a different style. I need backsprites too.
Well, thanks for the replies!
AeroMaxx
February 23rd, 2008, 02:33 PM
A very nice game indeed! Right now I am working on project called Pokemon Solar and Lunar. Hopefully it gets as much support as your games and some others here...
Good luck with Pokemon Amethyst!
darth meanie
February 23rd, 2008, 10:26 PM
Wait, do you still want my designs? I have plenty of them, and what I sent you were just synopses. My concept was that I would send you summaries, you would tell me what you liked and didn't like, and then I would write up all the details and scan and send pictures, if you were worried that what I PMed was what I thought was all I needed to send you, because I have WAY more to say on those designs.
PM me for clarification, post here, just tell me what you want/need. If you don't want anything else, then ok. You just werent clear.
Wichu
February 26th, 2008, 05:01 PM
Darth Meanie: PMed.
Anyway, I finished the sprite for Professor Maple: SPRITE REMOVED - see the new sprite here (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=3378144&postcount=35).
Any comments?
D3L3T3D
February 26th, 2008, 09:32 PM
Wichu, it looks great. I'm going to continue to correspond with you, in case I need help with my own project. Do you mind?
Alistair
February 26th, 2008, 10:13 PM
I am overall impressed by the screens. The graphics are a nice refresh from most of the other fangames' FR/LG ones. The palette may feel a little too washed out, though. Also, I don't think heavy dithering was the best choice for the female's hair (back battle sprite). Try just solid transitioning, though show hair detail, with slight dithering. The Pokémon, though not the best ideas, are sprited really well.
The mythology of the Shika region is a nice touch, also. It adds much depth and background information. The storyline has been used times before, though (And it has already been mentioned. Sorry for saying it again), but it is still better then the "go get a Pokémon and beat the bad guys" storyline.
Now, the systems look really good, also. The Quick Pokémon Check system should be a useful feature. It is also great to see the phone return.
Overall, this game looks like it should be worth the watch, and keep up the good work.
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For the Professor Maple sprite, it looks great, though the hair needs a bit touched up. It could use a bit more detail, and not to be partially pillow-shaded. She would also look a bit better if she had a Pokéball in her out-stretched hand.
~link smash~
February 27th, 2008, 10:48 AM
Looks nice love the hair almost like mine strange
MarineAngemon
February 27th, 2008, 05:18 PM
Now this is absolutely amazing. i love the title screen, the new fakemon, the new sprites, everything about it. i think that this will be a very interesting game, and when a demo is released, i will be playing this. good luck Wichu!
adamb241
February 27th, 2008, 05:51 PM
Amazing man! The new sprite looks awesome. Keep up the good work!
Wichu
February 27th, 2008, 06:08 PM
Well, due to some feedback I received from Дон Пач and in the Pixel Art forum, I will be improving the Maple and female hero sprites a bit. You have something to look forward to!
Oh, and Дон Пач, I want to keep the game's story in the Pokémon style, though some of it will be manga-ish or Colosseum/XD-like. Including plot twists, bigger roles of legendaries etc.
I will also be including real-life friends and staff members as NPCs and rivals, as well as completely new and different personalities for the Team Necro admins. See if you can guess which characters correspond to which staff (when I release them).
Wichu
February 28th, 2008, 01:01 PM
Okay, the improved Professor Maple sprite is done:
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9684/maplefi5.png
Without Pokéball
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/903/maple2rt2.png
With Pokéball
What do you think?
Wichu
February 29th, 2008, 01:30 PM
Okay, I redid the female trainer back's hair. Also posting the male trainer back 'cause I feel like it:
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/6660/trback000yd4.pnghttp://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4871/trback001kl9.png
un_saint
February 29th, 2008, 02:03 PM
Love this game if I did not know better I'd say it was a real game made by gamefreak oh and do not change the graphics because it looks like diamonds and pearls graphics and that fact makes it a cool.
adamb241
February 29th, 2008, 04:59 PM
Nice sprites! They look awesome!
Henry987
March 1st, 2008, 03:33 AM
nice, Im going to support this game too :D
Mrchewy
March 1st, 2008, 05:07 AM
Hey, if it isn't one of my fellow Pokémon Essentials regulars ;) . Well, what can I say? This project definately looks like one of the more promising ones on these forums right now. The amount of features you've managed to add really do impress me (and if you've seen some of my other reviews, it's hard to make me impressed). The new battle interface looks a little odd, and the palette seems a wee bit too dull, but this project still sounds pretty damn awesome.
PS: Peter O fanboys for life : D
adamb241
March 1st, 2008, 01:31 PM
What level does Chimico evolve? Do you know yet?
Wichu
March 1st, 2008, 01:54 PM
It won't evolve by level. It will have to hold a certain item and level up.
un_saint
March 1st, 2008, 02:00 PM
What program(s) did you use to make this game?
nonemus
March 1st, 2008, 02:09 PM
i think by putting this hack in the emulation section, u will get a lot more feedback :)
anways keep up the good work!!!
wcdaily
March 1st, 2008, 02:13 PM
wow that is cool cant wait untell its done.
Wichu
March 1st, 2008, 03:58 PM
It's not a hack. That's why I don't put it in the emulation section.
It's a game made with RPG Maker XP.
un_saint
March 1st, 2008, 08:23 PM
DID YOU USE A STARTER KIT AND IF SO WHAT STARTER KIT?
killin_kobra
March 2nd, 2008, 01:01 AM
Hello. This sounds interesting so I'll help. Could I be in charge of designing like 150 new Pokemon. Heres my thread Here (http://http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=122527&page=2)
Mrchewy
March 2nd, 2008, 02:53 AM
DID YOU USE A STARTER KIT AND IF SO WHAT STARTER KIT?
First, quit yelling at us. Secondly, your question is answered in the topic. He used Pokémon Essentials.
Wichu
March 2nd, 2008, 03:15 AM
Well, I'm not looking for Pokémon designers, as I already have four, including myself.
Besides, I already have evolutions of most of the Pokémon you mentioned designed and drawn :P.
Update
I've decided it's time to reveal the starter Pokémon!
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5399/494dipleafcc5.png
Dipleaf, the Seed Dino Pokémon. It stays out in the sun for as long as it can, as it gets its energy from the sun's rays.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1239/497charcubcu0.png
Charcub, the Young Bear Pokémon. It is a cute, lovable creature. However, hugging it may have burning consequences.
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/8664/500axolitlgg3.png
Axolitl, the Amphibian Pokémon. It swims swiftly in water, its normal habitat. However, it cannot move as swiftly on land with its stubby legs.
And another animation, this time of the starter selection scene (again, large file size, but not quite as large ;))
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee78/wichu/StarterSelection.gif
So, what do you think?
Update 2:
I made another, better title sequence animation.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee78/wichu/Title2.gif
killin_kobra
March 3rd, 2008, 02:11 AM
Come on! The more the merrier. Please
Wichu
March 3rd, 2008, 03:35 AM
Well, looking at your thread, you only seem to have names. Besides, most of your suggestions are evos of old Pokémon, and I already have enough of those. Four designers is easily enough for a game.
Oh yes, and anyone who hasn't seen, I updated the first post with the starters and some more animations.
killin_kobra
March 3rd, 2008, 10:36 PM
What do you need help with?
Wichu
March 4th, 2008, 02:40 AM
If you'd read the first post, you'd know I'm looking for spriters, musicians and moves/abilities/items.
Falling Star
March 4th, 2008, 09:25 PM
It seems to be coming along excellently- But I have a little jibe with the name "Charcub".
It's mainly because of Chimchar and Charmander- It's just CHAR is used a little too much. Perhaps something like Ignicub or something?
~link smash~
March 11th, 2008, 02:11 PM
um is the site bugged Im looking here and there and all the posts I read are coming back as Unread since march 4th something is fishy
Wichu
March 11th, 2008, 03:47 PM
Yeah, the forum messed up, so it was restored to a backup. This means everything that happened since the 4th is gone.
Anyone who posted ideas, could you please repost them?
Anyway, I'll post all the deleted stuff as soon as I can.
xTempest
March 11th, 2008, 04:24 PM
This looks absolutely AMAZING! Can't wait to try it out :) Nice new pokemon too (Y)
adamb241
March 11th, 2008, 04:28 PM
I'll make up some new stuff for ya!
Moves:
Hell Flame
Type: FIR
Damage: --
Accuracy: --
Powers up the users attack and SP. Attack using a flame from hell.
Diamond Claw:
Type: NRM
Damage: 75
Accuracy: 95
Slashes the foe with diamond hard claws.
Toxic Blast:
Type: PSN
Damage: 90
Accuracy: 75
May induce a poison similar to TOXIC.
Wink:
Type: NRM
Damage: --
Accuracy: 100
Causes the foe to fall in love.
Death Drain:
Type: DRK
Damage: 95
Accuracy: 65
Uses dark forces to drain the foe's health.
Sturdy Fist:
Type: RCK
Damage: --
Accuracy: --
Increases Attack
Wax Trap:
Type: GST
Damage: --
Accuracy: 95
Prevents Escape
Cosmic Beam:
Type: PSY
Damage: 75
Accuracy: 90
A strong beam of concentrated light, may induce flinching.
Weed Killer:
Type: PSN
Damage: --
Accuracy: 95
Weakens the power of Grass Type moves.
Hyper Thrash:
Type: DRG
Damage: 100
Accuracy: 85
A full out physical attack, causes recoil damage.
Lightning Rod:
Type: ELC
Damage: --
Accuracy: --
Creates a lighting Rod to take its place in battle. Converts all electric attacks into health.
Black Mail:
Type: NRM
Damage: --
Accuracy: 75
Causes foe's team damage every turn in double battles.
Demon Claw:
Type: DRK
Damage: 65
Accuracy: 100
Slashes with enchanted claws.
Sixth Sense:
Type: PSY
Damage: --
Accuracy: --
Increases evasiveness.
Static Shock:
Type: ELC
Damage: 75
Accuracy: --
Never misses, may cause paralyze.
Tetsu
March 11th, 2008, 07:43 PM
LONG POST ALERT!
Out of request by Wichu, I shall repost my ideas, just an-noted. Some might be missing, because a few of my last ideas were off the top of my head. Also, some names might be different, as I didn't have the names picked out yet for my never-gonna-happen hack, just an idea.
~Rename 'Burn Heal', 'Ice Heal', And 'PRZ Heal' to 'Aloe Vera', 'Heat Pad', and 'Relaxant', respectively.
~Add new 'Full' Restores (Note, name as needed. These names are disposable.)
~~~Small Restore: Heals Status, and only 100 HP, but cheaper.
~~~Wide Restore: Heals Status and 'Hidden' statuses, such as Attraction, Confusion, or being Wrapped, etc
~~~Giga Restore: Heals Status, even fainted, and all HP as if Pokemon just came from a Pokemon Center (NEW IDEA! If used on an un-fainted Pokemon in battle, also heals 'hidden' statuses like Wide Restore. Wow. They just kinda fly in from left field, don't they? lulz.)
~Another New Idea: Perhaps 'Fossils' for non-extinct Pokemon, that have different move-sets or something, as if they developed new abilities over time?
~ 'Max' items for more than just 'PP Max', like 'HP Max', 'Calcium Max', etc.
~'Ability Up' and 'Ability Max' (man that'd be worth some dough!) that act the same as Calcium, HP Up, etc, except they effect all stats at once.
~A Rare Candy-like Item that also gives EVs before leveling the Pokemon, so that you wouldn't have to worry about missing out on a whole level of valuable EVs. Rare Cookie? Rare Pie? Rare Rice Ball? etc.
~New Rods and Modified original rods
~~~Old rod: catches starter-level Pokemon. Pokemon Encountered depends on fishing source.
~~~Good Rod: Catches Average Level Pokemon. Pokemon Encountered depends on fishing source.
~~~Great Rod: Catches Average Level Deep-Sea Pokemon
~~~Super Rod: Catches Upper Level Pokemon (river, ocean, and deep-sea Pokemon)
~~~Top Rod: Catches High Level Pokemon (levels 50-60 area)(river, ocean, and deep-sea Pokemon)
~Revival of Apricorns. Here's some ideas for additional apricorns I had:
~~~Orange Apricorn -> New Ball: Better catch rate for Pokemon species you do not have.
~~~Clear Apricorn -> Copy Ball: Acts exactly like the last Pokeball you used (stock up for inf. Masterballs!)
~~~Violet Apricorn -> Power Ball: Better at catching higher-level Pokemon
~~~Indigo Apricorn -> Weakening Ball: Caught Pokemon reduces its level to 1, becomes its lowest stage, and its stats are minimized, as if It was newly hatched.
~Perhaps some new Mail Stationaries? How about bringing back ones from G/S/C?
~How about new legendaries that balance out other legendaries or add to the flair?
~~~Clorotro (Cloro=Clhlorophyll + Tro=Quatro) Grass/Flying legendary bird.
~~~Perhaps modifying Ho-Oh to be an alternative to fire/flying, as we've already had a fire/flying legendary: Moltres.
~~~Chilltran: Water/Steel - opposite Heatran
~~~How about a ???/Dragon 'Angel' Pokemon opposite demonic looking Giratina (see 'Arceus' below for what I mean about ??? type)
~~~Maybe a 'full moon' alternate to Cresselia?
~~~(New Idea!): Maybe an 'evolved' version of Phione, which breeds out a baby form of 'Manaphy'? Which as you know, breeds out a Phione?
~~~ Serebii.net points out that there is a '???' type Arceus programmed into the game, but no ??? plate and only one ??? move. Perhaps you could expand on this? Make a ??? plate and a multitude of ??? type attacks, which have their own weakness/resistance table?
~RE: Rainbow Wing/Silver Wing. When used in the right place, item vanishes, and you encounter Ho-Oh/Lugia. I had some alternatives. (Note. Names may be different, as many were off the top of my head.) I chose 'feather' instead of 'wing' because if it was a wing, how would they fly?
~~~Blue Feather - Articunoo
~~~Yellow Feather - Zapdos
~~~Red Feather - Moltres
~~~Green Feather - 'Clorotro'
~~~Mind's Eye - Mewtwo
~~~Pure Heart - Mew
~~~Thunder Claw - Raikou
~~~Fire Claw - Entei
~~~Wind Claw - Suicune
~~~Silver Feather - Lugia
~~~Rainbow Feather - Ho-oh
~~~Chrono Leaf - Celebi
~~~Brown Stone - Regirock
~~~Blue Stone - Regice
~~~Grey Stone - Registeel
~~~Transparent Stone - Regigigas
~~~Red Egg Stone - Latias
~~~Blue Egg Stone - Latios
~~~Blue Orb - Kyogre
~~~Red Orb - Groudon
~~~Strato Orb - Rayquaza
~~~Hope Tag - Jirachi
~~~Virus Vial - Deoxys
~~~Broken Transceiver - Rotom
~~~Pixie Dust - Uxie
~~~Spirit Ball - Mespirit
~~~Elf Magic - Azelf
~~~Grand Diamond - Dialga
~~~Grand Pearl - Palkia
~~~Molten Gemstone - Heatran
~~~Frozen Gemstone - 'Chilltran'
~~~Black Spire - Giratina (named it a spire, because he has no feathers. Just Spires)
~~~White Feather - 'Angel' alternate to Giratina
~~~Lunar Feather - Cresselia
~~~Full Feather - 'Full Moon' alternate
~~~Rare Egg - Manaphy (or Phione, if you go with my 'Phione - ? - ? - Manaphy' idea
~~~Black Smoke - Darkrai
~~~Small Flower - Shaymin
~~~Unknown Object - Arceus
~Differences in gender, metallic Pokemon, different colored Pokemon (Idea was ousted, due to the 'Duh!' factor.)
~Maybe modify breeding so that Pokemon specie, attacks, etc are randomized between the 2 parents rather than 'female specie' 'male attacks'. Or perhaps only some of them.
~(My favorite idea): All Pokemon have a gender AND can breed, including ditto. As well, legendaries are harder to breed, can only breed with their own specie or a similar legendary. Legendary birds (including Latias/os) , legendary dogs, Mewtwo/Mew/Celebi, Regis, are just some of the breeding groups I came up with.
And that's all I remember. It doesn't matter to me if you credit me or not. I don't mind either way.
Wichu
March 12th, 2008, 02:02 PM
Thanks! As I said, here's some updates that were lost in the backup:
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Animations/QuickPokeSwitch4.gifhttp://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Animations/QuickPokeSwitch3.gif
Switching Pokémon without going into the Pokémon menu. Just hold Shift and press up or down on the Start menu.
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Animations/Ardi81Moves1.gifhttp://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Animations/SoulExodus.gif
Some moves by Ardi81.
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Animations/Thunder.gif
Thunderrr!!! A quick test - the animations are placeholders.
Anyway, I will be uploading any new images to a Photobucket account I made for the game, so you can see all of them
Neo-Dragon
March 12th, 2008, 02:20 PM
Looks really cool. The pokemon quick switching is a good idea. (I say that because I have one like it in my game too :P).
The game is looking great and I'm sure it will play great too. Good job so far. Nice update.
adamb241
March 12th, 2008, 02:41 PM
Nice, shouldn't Smeargle freeze after the attack though?
Or maybe a stat reduction?
The Smell
March 12th, 2008, 03:46 PM
Wow! So there was a problem...
Anyway, I posted a new form for Chatot. It doesn't look very different but, take note it was made from scratch!
Mine -http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff39/PokeSmell/ChatotADVEdition.pnghttp://pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa441.png - Original
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff39/PokeSmell/ChatotADVEditionUpsize.png
Hope you like it!
~Smell
Wichu
March 12th, 2008, 04:22 PM
adamb241: It does freeze. I edited it after making the animation to make it clearer.
The Smell: It's OK for a scratch. However, I can see some mistakes:
The lines. Some are too thick - keep them at 1 pixel. Also, too many are black - use darker shades of colour. Finally, they are too straight - they need to look more curved.
Second, there aren't enough colours - you seem to have reused the DP palette. Advance sprites usually have 4 shades of each colour - highlight, base, shadow and line. Since you're not limited to 16 colours, use all those choices.
Thirdly, the shapes: Try not to use the shape tools, but if you do, use shading in the lines. Its head looks a little off; move it across a bit. And its eye is circular on your sprite - it should be circular.
When I sprite, I usually hand-draw a picture, scan it, resize, and go over the lines. As both the people who tried have had problems with Chatot, I'll sprite Chatot myself.
If you want to help, please choose a DP Pokémon you know you can do perfectly; I don't want anything less for the game.
Feel free to do backsprites too. Just make sure the lines/colours/shading is in Advance style, since DP and Advance style sprites clash.
LynnCreed
March 12th, 2008, 04:35 PM
Just some thoughts and ideas: The hair on the trainer below is equally shiney at all times of the day. Not to be picky but it looks odd. Your bearcub has too much color contrast for shadow/light too. It looks synthetic-thread shiney rather than natural-fur shiney, you know?
I think you said you were working on it somewhere but the three shadow species in your opening vid have rough coloring. Their color splotches look like you weren't quite sure when to stop coloring and make it black again. I'm not sure if I'm explaining it right. anyway, just constructive criticism, nothing personal. Want to see this be successful. :)
You story-line sounds like a diamond-pearl copy and basically replaces all the legendaries of that game with new pokemon that fill the same roles. just saying.
Item ideas: Comfort blanket: rare item that induces friendship evolutions upon levelling up. If i come up with another before the next post in this thread I'll just edit, otherwise I'll post again
Falling Star: Sure, we could do with another designer! Can you make scratch sprites?
Yuoaman: How about this?
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9933/wichu2do0.png
Anyway, I'm going to be using day-night tinting in battle too. Screens:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3057/screenshot016gf9.png
Morning
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9716/screenshot015is8.png
Day
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8913/screenshot018bl3.png
Evening
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9808/screenshot017iz1.png
Night
And finally, we don't need designers any more. However, I am looking for spriters to sprite the DP Pokémon in Advance style (like Shinx in the screenshots). This is because the DP sprites use a different style from the Advance sprites, and I'm sticking with Advance for this game.
The sprites should be at least as good as my sprites, and should be in 64x64 resolution, scaled up to 128x128. I will not accept simple resizes of DP sprites, as they have a different style. I need backsprites too.
Well, thanks for the replies!
darth meanie
March 13th, 2008, 01:39 PM
Note: I can't sprite, and my pre-evos always suck. I am just dumping some of the ideas that have been spinning in my head.
Once Again, Note: I just realized I still have to work on the second one I posted. When I finish it, ill finish it here.
Lokeed
Lokeed: Ghost/Steel
Steadfast/Insomnia
HumanShape/FairyShape
Hp:72
Atk:88
Def:52
SpA:86
SpD:59
Spd:132
BST: 499
Appearance: A helmet, two gauntlets, and armored legs. No Torso. A faint glowing aura surrounds him. While his stats are sub-par, his movepool is incredible.
Note, egg moves list pokemon that I KNOW it can get it from, not every possible combination.
Egg Moves:
Astonish, Ice Shard (Frosslass)
Metronome, Follow Me (Clefable)
Baton Pass, Fake Out, Last Resort (Delcatty)
Fire Punch, Thunder Punch, Ice Punch (Alakazam, Machamp)
Aura Sphere, Counter, Me First, Reversal (Lucario)
MovePool:
1:Bullet Punch
7:Hypnosis
12:Agility
15:Air Cutter
19:Shadow Ball
22 Disable
26:Glare
33:Mimic
36:Revenge
39: Perish Song
42:Scary Face
46:Nasty Plot
51:Night Slash
55:Sucker Punch
60:Meteor Mash
70:Extrasensory
80:Superpower
90: Psycho Cut
01 - Focus Punch
02 - Dragon Claw
04 - Calm Mind
06 - Toxic
10 - Hidden Power
11 - Sunny Day
12 - Taunt
13 - Ice Beam
15 - Hyper Beam
16 - Light Screen
17 - Protect
18 - Rain Dance
20 - Safeguard
21 - Frustration
26 - Earthquake
27 - Return
29 - Psychic
30 - Shadow Ball
31 - Brick Break
32 - Double Team
33 - Reflect
36 - Sludge Bomb
37 - Sandstorm
41 - Torment
42 - Facade
44 - Rest
46 - Thief
47 - Steel Wing
48 - Skill Swap
49 - Snatch
52 - Focus Blast
53 - Energy Ball
54 - False Swipe
56 - Fling
57 - Charge Beam
58 - Endure
59 - Dragon Pulse
61 - Will-o-Wisp
62 - Silver Wind
63 - Embargo
64 - Explosion
65 - Shadow Claw
66 - Payback
68 - Giga Impact
70 - Flash
71 - Stone Edge
72 - Avalanche
73 - Thunder Wave
74 - Gyro Ball
75 - Swords Dance
76 - Stealth Rock
77 - Psych Up
79 - Dark Pulse
80 - Rock Slide
81 - X-Scissor
82 - Sleep Talk
85 - Dream Eater
89 - U-Turn
90 - Substitute
91 - Flash Cannon
92 - Trick Room
HM01 - Cut
HM04 - Strength
HM06 - Rock Smash
HM08 - Rock Climb
Protheon
Protheon: Ground/Psychic
Water Absorb/Clear Body
Indeterminate/Water3
A giant light blue blob with arms and a large glowing orb in the center. I wanted to make a blob sort of pokemon, a psychic type, but have it weak to ice like the real blob, and immune to water. Ta-Da!
HP: 50
Atk: 105
Def:90
SpA: 60
SpD: 220
Spd:20
BST: 545
Egg Moves:
Sludge Bomb, Gunk Shot, Acid Armor (Muk)
Sucker Punch, Perish Song, Astonish (Gengar)
Curse (Spiritomb, Gengar)
<3 Extrasensory
<3 Water Spout
1:Rock Slide
5:Body Slam
10:Minimize
15:Recover
20 Power Gem
25:Amnesia
30:Muddy Water
35:Shadow Ball
40:Night Slash
45: Discharge
50:Counter
55:Focus Blast
60:Earth Power
65:Superpower
70:Avalanche
75 Psycho Boost
01 - Focus Punch
03 - Water Pulse
04 - Calm Mind
06 - Toxic
07 - Hail
08 - Bulk Up
10 - Hidden Power
11 - Sunny Day
12 - Taunt
13 - Ice Beam
14 - Blizzard
15 - Hyper Beam
16 - Light Screen
17 - Protect
18 - Rain Dance
19 - Giga Drain
20 - Safeguard
21 - Frustration
24 - Thunderbolt
25 - Thunder
26 - Earthquake
27 - Return
29 - Psychic
30 - Shadow Ball
33 - Reflect
43 - Secret Power
44 - Rest
46 - Thief
49 - Snatch
52 - Focus Blast
53 - Energy Ball
55 - Brine
56 - Fling
57 - Charge Beam
58 - Endure
61 - Will-o-Wisp
64 - Explosion
67 - Recycle
68 - Giga Impact
69 - Rock Polish
71 - Stone Edge
74 - Gyro Ball
76 - Stealth Rock
77 - Psych Up
79 - Dark Pulse
81 - X-Scissor
84 - Poison Jab
85 - Dream Eater
90 - Substitute
91 - Flash Cannon
92 - Trick Room
HM04 - Strength
HM06 - Rock Smash
HM07 - Waterfall
HM08 - Rock Climb
Darkly_the_flygon
March 13th, 2008, 07:21 PM
DO YOU REMEMBER MY IDEAS?
Vulpid
March 13th, 2008, 07:36 PM
Looks Awesome! I can't wait to Play it completely!
adamb241
March 13th, 2008, 11:12 PM
Here are some abilities:
Stone Heart: Prevent Attraction.
Inner Flame: Raises attack power every turn.
Inner Might: Raises defense and speed every turn.
Diamond Skull: Prevent Recoil Damage
Natural Antidote: Prevents Poison.
Cruse Missile: Attacks never miss.
Flame: Raises the power of fire type moves.
Dust Shield: Prevents Status changes.
Sky Light: Reduces the foes accuracy.
How about changing Charcubs name to something like Teracub or Embcub?
Wichu
March 14th, 2008, 02:59 AM
Missingno; could you repost them please? They were deleted in the backup.
Everyone else, thanks for the feedback!
Illiterate
March 14th, 2008, 05:33 AM
Awesome, good luck on this. Can I please help? e__e
Darkly_the_flygon
March 14th, 2008, 09:08 AM
Dark destiny:
Lower's enemies defense to almost nothing. but raises their attack to max
pp:5
I'll get to the other ones soon
darth meanie
March 14th, 2008, 12:33 PM
Here are some abilities:
Stone Heart: Prevent Attraction.
Inner Flame: Raises attack power every turn.
Inner Might: Raises defense and speed every turn.
Diamond Skull: Prevent Recoil Damage
Natural Antidote: Prevents Poison.
Cruse Missile: Attacks never miss.
Flame: Raises the power of fire type moves.
Dust Shield: Prevents Status changes.
Sky Light: Reduces the foes accuracy.
How about changing Charcubs name to something like Teracub or Embcub?
Stone Heart: You mean Oblivious?
Inner Flame/Might: You mean OMG so broken uber?
Diamod Skull: You mean Rock Head?
Natural Antidote: You mean Immunity?
Cruise Missile: You mean No Guard?
Dust Shield: You mean clear body/white smoke?
I don't like Embcub. but Embrcub sounds really good.
Wichu
March 15th, 2008, 02:11 PM
Thanks everyone. I updated the first post with a new userbar I made:
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Support/Userbar1-1.png
Bakun
March 15th, 2008, 02:22 PM
I can make scratch sprites! I'm doing a scratch Charizard right now :D
It's stilla WIP, but have a look:
http://i26.tinypic.com/2qa65jb.png:D
Houndoomed
March 15th, 2008, 02:27 PM
I think it's quite good, but try to show more of the front if possible.
Bakun
March 15th, 2008, 02:38 PM
Also, Wichu, I think the head on the dipleaf was a bit strange so i just made my own head and put it over yours :) Also i think you dithered Dipleaf alittle too much :/
http://i26.tinypic.com/257eww8.pngOver is the edited ;) Now its looking at its opponent :)
Myzou
March 15th, 2008, 06:25 PM
Just wanted to say:
LOVE the battle look =D And the Quick Pokemon Check Thing is awesome =P
Can't wait to see future updates to it =P
Bakun
March 16th, 2008, 06:24 AM
Now to proof i can do scratches:
http://i31.tinypic.com/wi0vab.png
I would like to work here as a spriter :) I only do scratches though...
Glacier
March 16th, 2008, 06:53 AM
This game is looking amazing the banner is so in my sig
Tetsu
March 16th, 2008, 10:23 AM
Now to proof i can do scratches:
http://i31.tinypic.com/wi0vab.png
I would like to work here as a spriter :) I only do scratches though...
That's a great Charizard. And you did it from scratch?
Of course, everyone's a critic, so as not to be alienated from the group called 'everyone', I have my own thoughts for improvement.
~His head should 'dip' into his nose, not slope into it.
~His hand (right ) seems disproportionate from his front sprite size-wise
~I don't know what it is, but his back just seems... odd, to me compared with its extremities.
But that's all just my opinion. Regard or disregard at your will.
That aside, I stopped by to ask if my idea about ??? attacks took, cause if it did, I already got a few moves to post for it.
Wichu
March 16th, 2008, 11:09 AM
The wings look odd:http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba006.png
There's something wrong with the left foot, too.
As for ??? moves, I'm currently reserving the type for Shadow moves (like in Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness). If your ideas are good, I might consider having ??? as a more standard move type, rather than just having Curse.
Tetsu
March 16th, 2008, 11:18 AM
First, about the charizard, I don't know why I didn't see it before, but Charizard's wings aren't blue in the back.
OK I have just a few ???s (Get it? Oh the wit...)
What of Arceus? Will he be different for Shadow type? Will there be a Shadow Type Plate? If so, what of the Programmed-but-unmanifested ???-type Arceus?
Lorem Ipsum
March 16th, 2008, 11:58 AM
One problem: the Charizard isn't facing the front, so why are the wings?
Bakun
March 16th, 2008, 01:11 PM
Ooops, i did'nt notice that O.o
I'll change that right now ^_^``
EDIT: Here ya go :)
http://i32.tinypic.com/352lrw2.png
THough i did'nt understand what you meant with "Dip it's nose" Tetsu...
Tetsu
March 16th, 2008, 01:43 PM
I PMed you Bakuphoon about your Charizard sprite. Perhaps together we can tweak it without flooding the thread?
KageX
March 16th, 2008, 03:15 PM
wichu if you need it i have a piplup scratch...im still workin on it though
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh190/burstninjax/scratchpiplup-2.png or http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh190/burstninjax/scratchpiplup-1.png
The Smell
March 16th, 2008, 04:39 PM
Wow! That is an awesome Ambipom and Chatot! Much better than mine. :P
Anyway, I tried again with Pachirisu. I used some advance style shading, and advance style colour pallettte too. Tell me what to change if needed!
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff39/PokeSmell/PachirisuRS.png
~Smell
KageX
March 16th, 2008, 05:14 PM
Wow! That is an awesome Ambipom and Chatot! Much better than mine. :P
Anyway, I tried again with Pachirisu. I used some advance style shading, and advance style colour pallettte too. Tell me what to change if needed!
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff39/PokeSmell/PachirisuRS.png
~Smell
thats so good, but i would slim up the cheeks a bit, also heres a turtwig
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh190/burstninjax/scratchTURTWIG2.png or http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh190/burstninjax/scratchTURTWIG.png
MR.GLITCH_KING
March 16th, 2008, 05:33 PM
lol wichu got every1 trying to do sprites for him
WOOT GO WICHU!!!!
KageX
March 16th, 2008, 08:06 PM
i also have a starly, here http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh190/burstninjax/scratchstarly.png
Wichu
March 17th, 2008, 01:49 PM
Thanks for the sprites everyone, they're great efforts!
They're not perfect, but most things aren't.
The Smell, your anatomy looks slightly off (especially the tail), and it looks quite fat.
KageX, in my opinion, there's too much black outlining. Also, the lines sometimes don't look quite rounded enough.
I'd just like to say I'm considering making a scratch sprite tutorial, if you want to know how I sprite.
Houndoomed
March 17th, 2008, 01:59 PM
I'd just like to say I'm considering making a scratch sprite tutorial, if you want to know how I sprite.
I'd really like to help out with this, so I say that would be a good idea :)
It'll have to wait until the demo for my game is out, kinda busy with that.
The Smell
March 17th, 2008, 03:38 PM
Hey! I thinned up Pachirisu, and made the tail look more "right". I also redid a couple of the lines, the grey one lighter, the blue one darker.... Hope you like it better...
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff39/PokeSmell/PachirisuRS1.png <New
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff39/PokeSmell/PachirisuRS.png <Original
~Smell
Bakun
March 17th, 2008, 04:25 PM
I Just made a shaymin sprite if you want it :)
http://i27.tinypic.com/e05rpc.pngTo the left is mine ;)
I can sprite for you, you know.
Oh and with help from Tetsu i was able to improve my charizard sprite:
http://i30.tinypic.com/2qw0rxc.png
Houndoomed
March 17th, 2008, 05:25 PM
Shaymin is good, but if you saw a Charizard facing backwards in a Pokemon game, it would be a little strange, wouldn't it?
adamb241
March 17th, 2008, 06:01 PM
The shayman sprite is very good. I'm not sure about the Charzard one though.
Wichu
March 19th, 2008, 06:19 PM
In my opinion at least, the Shaymin's legs look odd, and its body looks a little too long. Here's the official art for reference:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3439/shayminra0.png
Anyway, I should have the tutorial done tomorrow.
adamb241
March 19th, 2008, 07:59 PM
Are you still looking for some ideas? I'll think up some if you need them.
Guardian1239
March 19th, 2008, 09:07 PM
Ugh, I finally finished reading all the posts in this thread. Anyway, I'd be very happy to help with a few things you said you needed.
*Side Quests - I'll need descriptions of places and the general storyline to help with side quests. It's kind of strange, but Pokemon never really has many side quests.
*Team Necros Admins - I'm very good with creating evil characters. I'm not sure why, perhaps because I embrace my dark side? Anyway, I'll need a description of what Team Necros believes as to why they have this twisted, messed up idea of releasing a huge Pokemon.
*Pokemon - I was thinking about ideas for Pokemon, but surprisingly, I couldn't come up with any. You said you didn't really need any more people for this, but I'll inform you if I have a revelation at some point. I have no idea how to sprite Pokemon, but I'm looking forward to your tutorial to see if I'd be interested.
*Moves, Abilities, Items - For this I'll need to know the descriptions of the Pokemon you'll want them to relate to, but I'm sure I'll slowly come up with these on my own. It looks like there are plenty of ideas already, but I'd be happy to help.
I'll check this forum every now and then, but I'm much more active through e-mail (theuniversalguardian@yahoo.com) or via the RMVX forums. Tell me what you still need so I can begin working on it.
adamb241
March 19th, 2008, 09:34 PM
I don't know if you want theses but here that are......
MOVES!!!
Erosion
TYPE: GRD
PWR: 10
PP: 15
This attack traps the the foe in the crumbling rocks of earth....(Attack gets stronger every use)
Cosmic Jewel
TYPE: PSY
PWR: --
PP: 15
Raises Attack, defence and speed using an enchanted gem.
Magma Headbutt
TYPE: FIR
DMG: 95
PP: 10
Rams the foe with a heat of magma. May burn.
Dark Jab
TYPE: DRK
DMG: 85
PP: 20
Jabs the foe with the power of darkness.
Guardian1239
March 19th, 2008, 10:37 PM
I'm not even sure if it's possible to make moves like this, but . . .
[Type] Advancement
Type: [Type]
Power: --
PP: 5
This move increases the power of all [Type] type moves.
Just put a Pokemon type in for all the [Type].
Tetsu
March 20th, 2008, 12:47 AM
Thought of another idea last night just as I was about to fall asleep. I do not take credit for this idea, but credit instead Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team as it was what I was playing beforehand:
For Pokemon with 2 different abilities ( or even some that don't) Allow the Pokemon to have BOTH at the same time.
@Bakuphoon: I like them both, but here's an idea for Shaymin: everyone's seen a sprite of it just standing there. How about a sprite with it verbing, such as running, jumping, standing on 2 feet? Just my thoughts on it.
Skele
March 20th, 2008, 10:28 AM
Can you seperate attack's to Physical, Special and Other like in D/P games?
Wichu
March 20th, 2008, 10:30 AM
Yeah, it's like that already - if you look at this screen, you can see that each attack has a Physical/Special/Other sign.
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Animations/Ardi81Moves1.gif
Skele
March 20th, 2008, 10:37 AM
Very nice game. I hope that, you complete your project.
My new attack's idea:
SHADOW ESCAPE <like for most ghost pokemons> <Other>
Type: Ghost
PWR: --
PP: 10
Switches opponent with another random one from their team, always attack last.
FIRE REBIRTH <like for Moltres, Ho-oh, Charizard, maybe another fire/flying pokemons> <Other>
Type: Fire
PWR: --
PP: 5
Restores 1/2 of user's max HP.
WILDVINE <like for Bellsprout, Carnivine, maybe another grass pokemons> <Other>
Type: Grass
PWR: --
PP: 15
Opponent cannot switch while user is in battle; can be Batton Passed by user.
COLDNESS <like for most ice pokemons> <Other>
Type: Ice
PWR: --
PP: 20
Lower opponent's Speed by 1 stage and raises user's Speed by 1 stage.
MYSTIC FIRE <like for most dragon pokemon and maybe Charizard> <Special>
Type: Dragon
PWR: 50
PP: 25
10% chance to burning or paralyze the opponent.
NEVER <like for some dark pokemons> <Other>
Type: Dark
PWR: --
PP: 30
Prevents stat reduction; can be Batton Passed by user.
DISASTER <like for Absol, Murkrow, Honchkrow and maybe another dark pokemons> <Special>
Type: Dark
PWR: 115
PP: 5
25% change of making the opponent flinch. Attack on first turn, recharge on second.
TOXIC WATER <like for Tentacool, Tentracruel, Qwilifish and maybe another water pokemons> <Special>
Type: Water
PWR: 55
PP: 20
15% chance for inflict Poison on opponent.
YOGA <like for Gallade, Meditite, Medicham and maybe another fighting/psychic pokemons> <Other>
Type: Psychic
PWR: --
PP: 20
Raises user's Attack and Sp. Attack by 1 stage.
WILDFIRE <like for aggresive fire/dragon pokemons> <Special>
Type: Fire
PWR: 80
PP: 10
Raises user's Sp. Attack by 2 stages.
ECTOBOMB <like for Gastly, Haunter, Gengar and maybe another ghost pokemons> <Special>
Type: Ghost
PWR: 200
PP: 5
Opponent's sp. defense is halved againts this attack, essentialy doubling move's base power; causes user to faint.
Wichu
March 20th, 2008, 02:21 PM
Thanks for the move ideas. I've finished v1 of my scratch spriting tutorial. It's pretty long, so its in the spoiler tags.
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/1599/spritetutorialsp6.png
Try it out! And tell me what you think of it if you use it.
Houndoomed
March 20th, 2008, 02:32 PM
I'm definitely going to give it a shot. Great tutorial btw. My scanner's broke, so I guess I'll have to find a pic of the Pokemon.. I think I'll start with something easy like Bidoof. Or Buneary.
More4Life
March 20th, 2008, 03:17 PM
Very nice! I'm going to try that!
Skele
March 20th, 2008, 03:31 PM
More moves ;P
BRAVE SOUL <like for most fighting pokemons and another "brave" pokemons> <Physical>
Type: Ghost
PWR: 70
PP: 15
Raises user's Attack by 1 stage but confuse user.
NATURAL ARMOR <like for some fighting and normal pokemons> <Other>
Type: Normal
PWR: --
PP: 10
Raises user's Defense by 2 stages and Sp.Defense by 1 stage.
HUNT <like for predators pokemons> <Other>
Type: Dark
PWR: --
PP: 15
Raises user's Speed and Accuracy for 1 stage, but decreases Defense and Sp. Defense for 1 stage.
INTERNAL EYE <like for most psychic pokemons> <Other>
Type: Psychic
PWR: --
PP: 15
Raises user's Accuracy for 1 stage.
MENTAL CHILL <like for some psychics pokemon> <Other>
Type: Psychic
PWR: --
PP: 15
65% chance for freezing opponent.
GLACIAL SABER <like for some humanshape pokemons> <Physical>
Type: Ice
PWR: 90
PP: 5
Always attack last, but never misses.
And some abilities:
ANXIOUS DNA - Randomly raise or lower user's stats. <like for Eevee, Mew, Deoxys>
SOUL ESSENCE - All moves know by the pokemon turn into Psychic-type but moves power increases to 1,5 times. <like for Abra, Kadabra, Alakazam and maybe another psychic pokemons>
RESPECT - Disabled one randomly opponent move. <like for some legendary pokemons>
IMITATOR - Change user type to opponent type. <like for Smeargle, Chatot, Ditto>
SURVIVE WISH - When HP is below 1/3rd, moves power increases to 1,5 times. <like for Magikarp, Feebas, Caterpie, Weedle, Wurmple and maybe another very weak pokemons>
That's all.
Houndoomed
March 20th, 2008, 03:58 PM
Well, here it is.. I actually decided to use Drifloon. This is my first time to use Paint.net and to rescratch a sprite, so it probably isn't that good.
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/8919/drifloonad5.png
Does it matter that it's tilting to one side too much?
EDIT: I forgot to change the black and right to the official colours, so I just did.
adamb241
March 20th, 2008, 06:00 PM
That is very good! It looks awesome!
Guardian1239
March 20th, 2008, 06:05 PM
I think I'd be better off just sticking to design. My hand's shaky a lot, and it makes detailed things really hard. The program is really cool, though. Perhaps some day I'll try spriting.
Angel Haru
March 20th, 2008, 07:41 PM
cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Smell
March 20th, 2008, 10:43 PM
Angel, is that really necessary?
~Smell
I made this, Wichu, using your guide! It's Uxie! The art was found on Google.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff39/PokeSmell/Uxie.png
Tell me what you think and whether to use another palette.
Glacier
March 21st, 2008, 04:26 AM
Here is my move that i have inserted in my game but you're free to use it
Doomsday
Type ELECTRIC
Power --- Accuracy ---
Deals an instant KO to all pokemon that are currently in battle including yours
Skele
March 21st, 2008, 09:03 AM
RUST <like for most steel pokemons> <Other>
Type: Steel
PWR: --
PP: 20
Raises user's Attack by 2 stages, but decreases user's Defense and Sp.Defense by 1 stage.
RUST RAGE <like for most steel pokemons> <Physical>
Type: Steel
PWR: 120
PP:15
Can be used only when user used Rust; 1/4 damage recoil.
Wichu
March 21st, 2008, 12:14 PM
No offense, Glacier, but that's a bit overpowered - like Explosion, but OHKOs everything, never misses, and isn't resisted by Ghost.
Skele, those are some cool ideas you have, but remember that there is a 12-letter limit on move, ability and item names.
Houndoomed, that is awesome! The shading on its body needs to be a bit more rounded though.
The Smell - I modified your sprite a bit :P
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Pokemon/DP%20Pokemon/Uxie-1.png
Anyway, I've decided I'm going to recolour the Pokémon sprites to the Sugimori art colours. Here's some examples of what I mean:
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/pkrs019.gif -> http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Pokemon/Recolors/270.png
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/pkrs020.gif -> http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Pokemon/Recolors/271.png
Any comments?
MR.GLITCH_KING
March 21st, 2008, 12:26 PM
pretty pretty mr wichu
sugimora stuff uses a lot of colors cuz they r usually fadint into each other adding about 10 colors right there
Wichu
March 21st, 2008, 12:30 PM
I only take the main colours though. You'll notice that the art uses two or three main tones - these are what I use, not the colours in between. See below.
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3439/shayminra0.png
The only colour I added which didn't have a corresponding shade on the sprite was the darkest shade of blue on Lombre.
Houndoomed
March 21st, 2008, 12:41 PM
Yeah, I noticed that too. I fixed that along with a few other things. If it still needs editing, just tell me.
http://i32.tinypic.com/2ypgojp.png
How are the colours?
Wichu
March 21st, 2008, 01:16 PM
The colours are good - it would be hard to tell apart from the DP sprite.
Here's an edited version with colours taken from the Sugimori art:
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Pokemon/DP%20Pokemon/Drifloon.png
I don't know whether you like those colours better, but I've decided I'm going to use Sugimori art colours - the DP colours (and to a lesser extent, the Advance colours) are too bright in my opinion. Besides, it fits better with the current OW palette. (I'm probably going to have several different OW palettes, used in different parts of the region.)
Also, I've realised I've got the region's geographical location wrong, because I misinterpreted the shape of Johto, and therefore my region overlaps with Johto.
To fix it, I'm just going to modify Johto. I have a sketch of the modified Johto map, which I'm going to scan and go over in the same way as the Shika map.
The Smell
March 21st, 2008, 05:31 PM
They look great! And the new Uxie I like too. ^^
The Sugimori colours will look better in my opinion. :)
Does this mean my Uxie is accepted? The one that has been edited?
~Smell
KageX
March 21st, 2008, 06:33 PM
this took me like 45 minutes i really hope you like it http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh190/burstninjax/scratchchimchar.png
Houndoomed
March 21st, 2008, 07:07 PM
@Wichu, yeah, those colours looks better. And they make it look more Advance generation. But I think the difference between the shades is too little.
@KageX, looks great! A few problems though:
Too much black outline.
Ears need to be more smooth.
Shading on the stomach needs editing.
Wind~
March 21st, 2008, 07:08 PM
I think it's really cool!
KageX
March 21st, 2008, 08:59 PM
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh190/burstninjax/scratchchimchar-1.png is this any better
Guardian1239
March 21st, 2008, 11:27 PM
It looks good, but the flame on its tail is a little bright. Also, the flame needs to be curving in more by the time it disappears behind his back.
Jynx Middata
March 22nd, 2008, 05:35 AM
I think that this game is absaloutley fantastic!
wahwa
March 22nd, 2008, 10:35 AM
This Is AMAZING GAMES AND VERY GREAT GAME...
Wichu
March 22nd, 2008, 02:02 PM
The Smell: Until I can be bothered to do a smaller repose (it looks a bit big - compare with Mew and Celebi), yes, it's accepted. The Pachirisu is accepted anyway.
KageX: That's pretty cool! Keep up the good work!
I'm currently redoing the Pokémon Summary in FRLG style:
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Screenshots/Screenshot034.png
And, I added another page for the Trainer Memo, hence the (incomplete) Information section at the bottom.
And I implemented the Characteristics feature from DP, which is helpful when calculating a Pokémon's IVs:
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Screenshots/Screenshot033.png
Any comments?
KageX
March 22nd, 2008, 02:05 PM
...if you want ill finish off the sinnoh starters
The Smell
March 22nd, 2008, 03:16 PM
Thanks, Wichu! ^^
That FRLG summary is awesome! I can't wait!
~Smell
Wichu
March 23rd, 2008, 10:50 AM
KageX: Go on, why not?
I've been working on the summary screen a bit more. I changed the bar at the top, and added some more info to the 1st and 2nd pages.
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Screenshots/Screenshot036.png
What should I put in the empty gap above the HP? Any suggestions?
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Screenshots/Screenshot037.png
Until catch locations/dates are implemented, I can't really add to this (except for a new bit of info I have planned, giving the Pokémon's battle style). However, if there's a good suggestion for something else to put here, I might try adding it.
Guardian1239
March 23rd, 2008, 11:22 AM
Oh, I remember what goes above HP! The item it's holding usually goes there.
Wichu
March 23rd, 2008, 12:19 PM
Yeah, but in this case, it's above the Exp. Anyway, I added some more info to the second page:
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Screenshots/Screenshot038.png
This tells you what the Pokémon's preferred battle style[s] are. These, unlike its characteristic, change depending on how you train it. When the Pokémon is born, it has "no preferred style".
EDIT: I think I'll change the text colours :P
EDIT 2: I've pretty much finished page 3:
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Screenshots/Screenshot039.png
The Smell
March 23rd, 2008, 05:29 PM
Level it was met? If that's possible. Or where it was met? That would fill the gap... :)
Looks good! ^^
~Smell
Myzou
March 23rd, 2008, 06:17 PM
Wichu, how about moving the HP remaining up, and making a PP remaining (for all moves) under it?
Falling Star
March 23rd, 2008, 06:33 PM
Wow, Wichu, you've seriously gone all-out on this. It's starting to reek of awesomeness. All my Pokémon will probably have the same fighting style as that Mudkip >.>
Sorry I haven't been able to contribute much as of late, creativity block <.< I can not wait to have a go at that beta...
Well, actually, I have a few Charcub substitutes. Sorry if you've already programmed the name into the game: Boncub (Bonfire), Coacub (Coal), Kincub (Kindle), Pircub (Pyre misspelt). Hope you like any of these~
Wichu
March 23rd, 2008, 07:09 PM
Thanks for the feedback, everyone!
Kincub sounds nice, as would Coalcub. (Coacub doesn't sound right.) I have another name possibility - Cubburn. I don't really like it though. By the way, it's very easy to change the name, so you don't have to worry about me changing it.
Anyway, I'll post some more details about the fighting styles.
There are six styles (not including no preference). They are: persistent, all-out, careful, tactical, instinctive, and calm. The first four have an effectiveness square - persistent beats all-out, which beats careful, which beats tactical, which beats persistent, returning to the start. The other two are supportive, with calm being more of an asset to defensive Pokémon, and instinctive to offensive.
The styles are relative to the average Pokémon of that species, so a calm Primeape is possible, as is an all-out Shuckle or a tactical Bibarel. Just don't expect them to be any good.
Also, the styles aren't exactly a new mechanic, just a different view on an older one. It might help to know that a trainer wanting a specific style should fight species using that style so their Pokémon can learn it, for example fighting an Alakazam to improve your Pokémon's tactics, or a Gyarados to improve "all-out"-ness.
No prizes for guessing what mechanic it describes :P
RayRay
March 23rd, 2008, 08:01 PM
Nice I love the graphics btw Wichu if you need any help with names for moves items,ect. pm me
Guardian1239
March 23rd, 2008, 10:00 PM
Whoops! Hehe, didn't see the item slot. This is just an idea, but the area above health could give the name of the Pokeball used in addition to the graphic above it.
Wichu
March 24th, 2008, 04:45 AM
I've decided to go with Myzou's suggestion, as it would be the most useful thing to put there.
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Screenshots/Screenshot041.png
And I've been working on the 4th page too -
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Screenshots/Screenshot040.png
What do you think?
I'm working on the page that comes up when you press A (or spacebar/C/Enter in RMXP).
OmegaGroudon
March 24th, 2008, 05:01 AM
Look great!!
AMAZING game!
I'll support the game anyway.
Guardian1239
March 24th, 2008, 06:21 AM
Hm . . . remaining PP. I guess that would be useful when determining whether to take a break to head to a Pokemon Center or keep going. It's better than my idea.
Wichu
March 24th, 2008, 06:37 AM
I've basically finished the summary screen now, with the move info page. Here it is:
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Screenshots/Screenshot042.png
And also, the little icons which appear under certain conditions:
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Screenshots/Screenshot043.png
PokéRus/Status
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Screenshots/Screenshot044.png
Non-infectious PokéRus
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Screenshots/Screenshot045.png
And shiny.
If anyone knows where I can find a text file with all of the DP move descriptions, could they please tell me? The Advance ones are a bit short, so the Desc. box looks empty.
EDIT: Finished the Egg summary screen:
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Screenshots/Screenshot046.png
Minorthreat0987
March 24th, 2008, 12:14 PM
Screens look really nice mate. Good luck with this.
Looks like we kinda think alike with the FR/LG status menu, yours is very very well done, very unique I like it. It has that DP flare to it. But if poccil ever does the Met at whatever level at what ever place...where will you put that lol Theres so much other vital info on the status screens. Anyway great game. Good luck with it.
Wichu
March 24th, 2008, 12:18 PM
There's a large gap under the picture on the Trainer Memo page (page 2). That's where it will go. I'm glad you like it!
EDIT: I've made the Pokémon animate like on FRLG (jump up and down) when you view their summary. I also fixed the bug where if you pressed up or down on you first or last Pokémon's summary respectively, you'd still hear their cry. Animation coming tomorrow!
The Smell
March 24th, 2008, 04:00 PM
Wow! That's so great! I'm with ya all the way Wichu! ;)
~Smell
adamb241
March 24th, 2008, 04:21 PM
Bravo Wichu! The progress you are making in awesome! Love the displays.
Guardian1239
March 24th, 2008, 06:34 PM
If you need help with move descriptions, I suggest [pokemon.marriland.com]. It's coming out very good so far. Keep up the good work!
~Guardian1239
timmy112
March 24th, 2008, 07:03 PM
I have an Idea for a Pokemon attack.
Thunderbeam
Type: Electric
PWR: 150
PP: 100
The user rest the next turn
Just an idea.
venom12
March 24th, 2008, 07:11 PM
Wichu here is attackdex http://www.serebii.net/attackdex-dp/ .
And game looks great, keep it up.
jaysonic1991
March 24th, 2008, 09:42 PM
if you wont a really good offline pokedex/attackdex then visit legendarypokemon. they have a great downloadable one.
i don't have enough posts to post a link. just go to legendarypokemon.net and look for the downloads section.
Wichu
March 25th, 2008, 11:38 AM
Thanks, everyone! I ended up using the downloadable Pokédex data package from Legendary Pokémon, as it contained a text file which I could merge with my Moves.txt file to avoid having to write everything out manually.
Anyway, I made two more animations: one of the Pokémon summary, and one of a battle, showcasing the new HP bar colouring.
Sorry for the bad quality - this is because of the GIF format. But it's better than YouTube's quality (I think), so I'm sticking with it.
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Animations/Summary.gif
The summary screen, with Pokémon and page-turning animations. Notice the egg shakes more when it's about to hatch.
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Animations/HPBaranimation.gif
I scripted the HP bar colours to change gradually between green and red. You can see when the Pokémon has half of its HP remaining by the percentage (you used to have to rely on the colour), so I figured why not make the colouring smoother?
Any comments?
EDIT: DP move descriptions fit the space perfectly :D
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Screenshots/Screenshot047.png
KageX
March 25th, 2008, 11:44 AM
omg good job wichu the screens look good, um im tryin really hard to make the startes, but monferno is killing me so ill give youll the seconds togerther, but it might take a while
Skele
March 25th, 2008, 11:50 AM
Next idea.
FLAMING WINGS
Type: Fire
PWR: 80
PP: 20
1/4 damage recoil
<Fire attack for flying pokemon's like Pidgeot>
It's my last idea but i think, best idea. It's very useful for flying pokemons when they must fight with steel and ice pokemons. I know, you must choice 12 ideas, but when you have more you can choose better. Screens are very good, if you complete this game, they can be better like D/P games. Can you add in game attacks animations? Do you need still more ability ideas?
Wichu
March 25th, 2008, 12:06 PM
I'll try, but it's not a priority. Do you know how many attacks there are? :S
(There will be around 600 different attacks.)
Skele
March 25th, 2008, 12:12 PM
Yeah, i know, you don't must do this. Your game can be still perfectly. I think, you don't need change HP bar, it's good. Do you want add more fakes or only new starters, Chimecho evolution and Wichu? New ability idea:
SINGING OF GOD - Lowers all opponents stats by 2 stage. <like for some "god" legendary pokemons>
Wichu
March 25th, 2008, 12:21 PM
There will be more Pokémon, I just haven't announced them yet. I'll be keeping a lot of them secret until you play the game.
And Singing of God is broken - reducing by 2 stages is equal to halving that stat. Even Intimidate, which only lowers one stat by a single stage, is considered to be one of the best abilities.
Anyway, Arceus already has Multitype ;)
Flaming Wings (or just Flaming Wing because of the 12-letter limit) is an awesome idea, though. Maybe I could have it as a TM? Normal-types learning it by level-up just isn't quite right. Although Moltres, Ho-oh and Charizard should be able to learn it by level-up.
EDIT: Making the move animations would take hundreds of times longer than scripting the HP bar.
Skele
March 25th, 2008, 12:26 PM
Yeah but there are more "gods" - Palkia, Dialga, Giratina... You can do with "my moves" all what you want... If you want "SINGING OF GOD" can lower all stats by 1 stage or only random stats by 1 stage. Elemental fangs like FIRE FANG can be learn by level-up for nonfire-types. FLAMING WING it's like elemental fangs.
What do you think about that idea:
Unowns can be ??? type <no weaknesses, resistances and maybe some immunities> and can learn by level-up <lvl 1> "letters attacks" with ??? type like "AaA". For example "FfF" can do damage and freeze opponent, "EeE" can do damage and raises evansion, "???" can be like Metronome. <Unown A can learn "AaA", Unown Y - "YyY">
seraphinw1
March 25th, 2008, 12:32 PM
how, this is perfect, almost heavenly... i can't wait until it's done, wow... amazing!!!
Wichu
March 25th, 2008, 12:48 PM
Actually, all the non-Fire types which learn Fire Fang learn it at level 1, i.e. they can only get it through the Move Relearner.
The idea for a unique move for Unowns is cool - however, I think there should only be one move, which they all learn, but has a different effect depending on the letter. Here's a name possibility - Glyphic Power (from the Greek word glyph, which means symbol).
Skele
March 25th, 2008, 12:54 PM
UNOWN EYE - Give immunity to ???-type moves. <like for Unown>
PREHISTORIC - Give immunity to random-type moves. <like for prehistorical pokemons like Kabuto>
I think it's cool idea with Glyphic Power but you can do different effect for all letters? What you think about give some "1 move" pokemon some additional moves, like for Smeargle, Ditto and give attack SKETCH for some another pokemons like Unown, Mew, Togepi?
PAINT ATTACK
Type: Normal
PWR: --
PP: 10
Change randomly opponents type.
I think that can be good attack for Smeargle. Maybe you can give Smeargle evolution with better stats.
Wichu
March 25th, 2008, 01:08 PM
For Unown Eye, there aren't any damaging ??? type moves - the only ??? type move is Curse.
Prehistoric is an OK idea, but how does the effect have to do with the Pokémon being prehistoric?
Yeah, I will give each letter a different effect.
I think Smeargle and Ditto should keep their only move, as what else could Ditto do apart from transform? Also, even if it had other moves, it wouldn't be able to use them after it transformed. As for Smeargle, it can already learn virtually any other attack (except for Chatter, as it can't change its cry, and eventually, Glyphic Power, as it doesn't have a letter).
Giving Sketch to other Pokémon would be a bad idea, because Mew and Togekiss are already very powerful. Could you imagine how broken they'd be if they could learn any move? And how is Unown supposed to sketch something anyway? It has no hands :S
Anyway, I made the animation for the Pokémon icons when they are affected by a status condition, as on Diamond/Pearl.
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj197/projectamethyst/Animations/PokemonMenuStatus.gif
EDIT: Oh yeah, the egg hatched :D
Skele
March 25th, 2008, 01:26 PM
UNOWN EYE and PREHISTORIC should be new abilities and i think GLYPHIC POWER can be ???-type. UNOWN EYE can give immunity for all ??? moves <ghost Curse, Glyphic Power>. You can give some new ??? moves like:
STRANGE <Special>
Type: ???
PWR: 40
PP: 25
May confuse opponent or disable one of opponent moves for 4 turns.
WHY?
Type: ???
PWR: --
PP: 5
User faints and all opponent moves are now in user type.
SUGGESTION
Type: ???
PWR: --
PP: 5
Heal 1/2 user HP and heal all status problem but cuts PP of one other user move.
RESET
Type: ???
PWR: --
PP: 5
Heal user and opponent HP and status problems.
ABYSS <Physical>
Type: ???
PWR: 140
PP: 5
User can't use now this move.
BIG EYE <Special>
Type: ???
PWR: 150
PP: 5
User cannot attack next turn.
You can also give me old idea move "NEVER" with ??? instead Dark type. All ??? moves can be unavoidable but ??? don't have any weakness and resistances and nobody have weakness or resistances for ??? type.
Wichu
March 25th, 2008, 01:45 PM
Well, I'm currently reserving ???-type moves for Shadow Pokémon (as on Colosseum/XD). Therefore, having ??? as a separate type would just confuse people further. In fact, I'm considering changing Curse to Ghost-type.
Your move effect ideas are pretty good, but I don't really like the names. They're quite simple compared to other move names. Could I use some of those effects on moves, but give them a different name and type?
Skele
March 25th, 2008, 01:50 PM
Yeah, of course. Do, what you want. And what you think about PREHISTORIC like a ability? What's type you want give for GLYPHIC POWER? Psychic or Normal? In your game all pokemon will be catchable with normal method? <fight and catch> I think you can give pokemon area with starters evolution after pokemon league.
Wichu
March 25th, 2008, 01:56 PM
Yeah, it's a nice name. I think its effect should be slightly changed though - perhaps it should lower the opponent's speed depending on how many times it has evolved. For example, it would lower Charizard's speed by 2, since it's evolved twice, Gyarados's speed by 1, since it has evolved once, and Pokémon like Heracross should be unaffected since they haven't evolved.
This ties into the ancient theme, since animals are generally believed to have been less evolved during prehistoric times, so more evolved Pokémon would be given a penalty (like speed lowering, since they wouldn't be as adapted to moving around in prehistoric conditions).
Skele
March 25th, 2008, 02:03 PM
I think it's good idea. What about my idea with catching starters evolution after league? What you want do with all of pokemon legendaries? Events for all?
Wichu
March 25th, 2008, 02:12 PM
Well, I want to be able to have online trading, so you could breed and trade your starter to other people, and get all of them that way. Even if I can't make the trading, I'll still let you make your Pokémon into Mystery Gifts, so you can transfer them between games.
With legendaries, I'm going to have an event for each one, for example for Rayquaza, you see Groudon and Kyogre fighting and have to get Rayquaza to help. (This is just an example, it own't necessarily be in the game.) However, some Pokémon, like Mew, Celebi etc. will only have an event if you get a Mystery Gift (don't worry, you won't have to go anywhere for it - it will be downloadable from the internet).
Skele
March 25th, 2008, 02:18 PM
What user need do for Mystery Gift number? Can i clone pokemons in game?
Wichu
March 25th, 2008, 02:22 PM
For the Mystery Gift, it will not be a code. It will be a file, which you will be able to put up on a website and allow someone to download it. However, only one person will be able to use it, as you will have to put in the name and trainer ID of the person you want to give it to.
I won't have a cloning cheat on purpose, don't worry. And I have a way to stop people cloning Pokémon through copying save files and trading/Mystery Gifting, but I'll need to learn a bit more about scripting if I want to put it in.
Anyway, I have to go now. I might be back soon :)
Skele
March 25th, 2008, 02:29 PM
Do you want give some special Mystery Gifts? Like Legends, Shiny Legends, special pokemons holds special items?
Wichu
March 25th, 2008, 02:46 PM
Do you want give some special Mystery Gifts? Like Legends, Shiny Legends, special pokemons holds special items?
Yup. Probably not shiny legends though, as I believe that if you want one, you should have enough patience to get them yourself. I'm also going to reward people who help me with a cool Pokémon, like a Flying Pikachu or something. (This could be you!)
However, I'm not planning to include the ability to create gifts in the first demo, as it would involve scripting which I'd like to save until I'm more experienced. You'll be able to receive gifts though - I want to test the system before properly implementing it.
adamb241
March 25th, 2008, 03:05 PM
Why would you make Mew and those other downloadable? Wouldn't it be better if every legendary had some sort of event?
Wichu
March 25th, 2008, 03:35 PM
I'll make an event item for them and release that first, then after that (like for tournaments etc), I'd give just the Pokémon out, so people who have already finished the event can still get it.
adamb241
March 25th, 2008, 03:53 PM
That is a very good idea, giving rare Pokemon out if someone wins something! Excellent idea!
Superjub
March 25th, 2008, 05:03 PM
This game looks A+ Material.
the story sounds excellent and what i have seen so far look great. the starters look brilliant.
Guess i should suggest a move:
Time Strike
Dissapears for 1 turn then on the second turn attacks.
Type: Psychic/Grass (cant decide :) )
Power: 80
Accuracy: 100
Note: Has a high critical hit ratio.
Can be learned by: celebi only
At level: 70
It is a physical attack.
PP: 5
Info: A powerful attack, the Pokemon cant be attacked on the first turn and attacks on the second. It has a high critical hit ratio.
Just thought I'd give Celebi a move, considering he's legendary and all. Plus why does Jirachi get a move and not him. :(
timmy112
March 25th, 2008, 05:29 PM
Thunderbeam
Type: Electric
PWR: 150
PP: 100
The user rest the next turn
only pure elctric types can learn this move
Thunderball
Type: Electric
PWR: 80
PP: 100
The user fires a ball of electricty
Focus Slash
Type: Normal
PWR: 150
PP: 100
The user focuses on the enemy in the first turn and attack in the seccond turn, the user flinches if hit
are these ideas better?
Guardian1239
March 25th, 2008, 05:51 PM
I've always loved the Unown. I was always so impressed in the third Pokemon movie how the Unown could create an alternate reality and I was always kinda disappointed that they were very weak in all the games. So, a proposition:
Move: Alternate Reality
Type: Psychic
Power: 200
Description: This move can only be used if there are 2 Unown on the field that belong to the trainer. Both Unown combine their power to warp reality and damage all enemies. This attack always happens last and takes the place of both Unown's turns.
Obviously, it has a lot of restrictions, such as it can only be used in double battles and both Unown have to survive a round of attacks to use it. It all balances out, in my opinion.
Wichu
March 25th, 2008, 06:29 PM
Superjub - Thanks! Nice move!
Timmy - Same goes for you, good ideas! However, I don't like the name Thunderbeam - perhaps Ampere Drive? (An ampere is a unit of electric current.) Also, I think Focus Slash sounds a bit like the item Focus Sash. Maybe Focus Crush or something?
Guardian - interesting. I'd propose changing the name to Reality Warp due to the 12-letter limit on move, item and ability names. And don't forget Species Clause!
Anyway, some ideas -
Ability: Vocalist - Increases the power of the bearer's sound-based moves by 50%.
Move: Point Strike - Fighting, Physical, 15PP, 70 power, 100 accuracy - ignores foe's Defense boosts.
Superjub
March 25th, 2008, 06:31 PM
I have another move :)
DNA Blast
On the first turn charges and the second turn strikes
Power: 120
PP: 5
Can make the foe flinch
Can be learned by: Mewtwo
At level: 70
NastyA
March 25th, 2008, 06:38 PM
good wichu very good , you are also a great graphic designer my compliments..also cuz that game have something of difference between the others game .. good scripting job man ;)
Wichu
March 25th, 2008, 06:47 PM
DNA Blast sounds more Deoxys-ish... How about Gene Blast?
And before you think one up, Mew doesn't need a special move - its unique ability is to learn any TM and move tutor move. It's truly awesome :D
adamb241
March 25th, 2008, 08:25 PM
Here are some Abilities I came up with!
Genetics: If Pokemon is a male, Speed and defense is increased. If Pokemon is a Female, Attack and Special is increased. **Works similar to blaze.**
Natural Cure: Pokemon is resistant to status changes.
Scavenge: May recover health out side battle. **Similar to Pick Up but with health**
Inner Focus: Moves accuracy Increase by 10.
timmy112
March 25th, 2008, 08:47 PM
Fire Ball
Type: Fire
PWR: 80
Acc: 100
The user fires a ball of Fire
Aqua Ball
Type: Water
PWR: 80
Acc: 100
The user fires a ball of Water
Aura Beam
Type: Fighting
PWR: 120
Acc: 100
The user charges aura for one turn then fires it in the seccond
Abilities:
Special Targting: Pokemon can Attack 2 pokemon with a move that is suppost to hit only 1 pokemon eg. Lucario Attacks with Aura Sphere and it hits both opponents.
Guardian1239
March 25th, 2008, 09:18 PM
Wichu - Reality Warp sounds good. I'm not sure what Species Clause is, though.
timmy112 - Ah, another Lucario fan. I changed my avatar so it doesn't get confusing. I was thinking about something like Special Targeting, but to keep it from becoming too powerful, I thought it would be best to halve the power of the move used when this effect takes place. Also, I don't think Special Targeting is the right name. Perhaps Wide Range would be better suited to the ability.
Rubii Naruto
March 25th, 2008, 09:53 PM
I have a couple of ideas, tell me if they're good.
Name: Union Link
Type: Psychic
PP: 5
Power: 0
Accuracy:--
Can be learned by: Plusle, Minun, and Spinda.
Description: Increases all stats of users and partners but halves defense, and if one pokemon faints the other does as well.
and...
Name: Siphon Link
Type: Dark
PP: 5
Power: 0
Accuracy: --
Can be learned by: Carvanah, Sharpedo, Tentacool, Tentacruel, Sneasel, and Weavile
Description: Saps life from your partner each turn, cannot be used on opponent.
and finally...
Name: Attack Link
Type: Fighting
PP: 5
Power: 105
Accuracy: 95
Can be learned by: Plusle, Minun, Hitmonchan, Hitmonlee, Hitmontop, Lucario, and Tyrouge.
Description:Both partners gang up on 1 opponent, but partner cannot use their move next. (always goes first on players move)
Those are my ideas, but if you want to change which pokemon to learn the attacks then you can.
shadowking93
March 25th, 2008, 10:11 PM
here's my idea(i like lavitar and tyranitar, that's why they can know it)
Attack: Shadow Haunt
Type: Dark
Power: 120
Acc: 80
PP: 10
Can be learned by: Tyranitar, and basically all dark pokemon
Description: Hits all pokemon at once in a double battle. Sends a wave of darkness and slices its opponent.
also...
Attack:Ground Whirlpool
Type: Ground
Power: --
Accu: 90
PP: 25
Can be learned by: any ground pokemon
Description: traps a pokemon in a hole in the ground. does 15 dam. each turn for 5 turns
finally...
Attack: Dragon Blast
Type: Dragon
Accu: 70
Power: 150
PP: 5
Can be learned by: Palkia
Level: 75
Description: creates a large ball of energy in its mouth and blasts it forward. Must recharge after using it.