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Cartmic
March 4th, 2008, 10:25 AM
Pokemon Violet began as 'Pokemon: Crion Adventures' back in 2003.
Orignaly Crion had a tropical climate right accross the land, but this has since changed and can only be found on certain parts of Crion Isles now.

In the land of Crion, Geological Researchers have began to be reported as missing
For what reason, nobody knows and do not seem to want to know
A proffessor in his 40's risks his life to explain what he knows and sets
you on your journey to solve this mystery. There is a lot more, but that would spoil it.

Certain significant buildings you may find in Crion:

*Research Centers

*Boating Shops

*Libaries

*Schools

*Jaymore University

*Fallout Shelters

Right attached is Crion and a few Screenshots from the last beta to be released back in 2006:

Hat?
March 4th, 2008, 10:29 AM
Pokemon Violet is pretty awesome, as you know Cartmic, i've been playing it just a while ago!

Cartmic
March 4th, 2008, 03:09 PM
Pokemon Violet is pretty awesome, as you know Cartmic, i've been playing it just a while ago!

Thanks.

Oh I forgot to mention Crions positioning in the Pokemon World,
I is West of Johto, North of Naljo, North West of Rijon, and East of Mikon; one of my other lands which has a small part to play in this game.

zel 2.0
March 11th, 2008, 06:08 PM
Oh well, I guess you can show those tiles again, in case someone didn't manage to see them :P

But, last time, I was asking about the world map. Is that a "base" of how the map will look? Because if I remember, it's a hack of Red, so I doubt it'll be that colorful.

Cartmic
March 12th, 2008, 02:46 AM
Oh well, I guess you can show those tiles again, in case someone didn't manage to see them :P

But, last time, I was asking about the world map. Is that a "base" of how the map will look? Because if I remember, it's a hack of Red, so I doubt it'll be that colorful.

Gah >.<

I did it in gold first as a guide to doing it in red as explained further down. I could if I wanted make it a GBC game but im not experienced enough to have more than 4 colours, I wouldnt want to anyway it would remove the whole "feel" of Violet. Red uses RLE compression to store its map, so it is difficult typing the map as once you;ve typed it all out its not as easy going back to it after ward and correctin mistakes e.g. of Iyouwanted to lay down 5 water tiles and 7 land tiles in gold, you would type "04 04 04 04 04 06 06 06 06 06 06 06" in red with its RLE compression it would be "4567", lookinf at the document I created line one of crion is
48 91 61 81 44 A1 64.

Anyway please find attached my new tiles and a screenshot* using them:


*The tiles in the screenshot are still being worked one, which is the reason some look a bit rubish.

a new killer, ramoteh
March 14th, 2008, 11:54 PM
This is looking great
I'm glad it's a pokemon Blue hack
And I like the houses you inserted

Cartmic
March 15th, 2008, 06:02 AM
This is looking great
I'm glad it's a pokemon Blue hack
And I like the houses you inserted

Thanks :)

Also thanks for reminding me XD I forgot to put that it is a Red hack.

More screens and a progress report on Thursday.

Night_Blue
March 16th, 2008, 05:01 PM
This looks good
Are you includung Rijon to?
Because the guy in one of the screens says ''Jaeru Cityin Rijon''
There is a text error their too.
Btw,like the world map

Cartmic
March 17th, 2008, 03:20 AM
This looks good
Are you includung Rijon to?
Because the guy in one of the screens says ''Jaeru Cityin Rijon''
There is a text error their too.



All I say now is you will go to one part of where those connecting routes go, which as you see are East,South, and West.

------------------Mikon-Crion-Johto-Kanto
------------------Gakto Naljo Rijon--Sevii Isles
Rosé Islands------Sulon-------S.Rjn-Orange Islands

All "bugs" in the screenshots are no longer there. Also the font was not suitable for the main game font, so I am working on somthing new.

A note on the Lands I posted there:

All but Sulon have been featured in betas, screenshots of my other games, and play a part somwhere in Violet, you wont necessarilary be visiting them, but they are however still important.


Btw,like the world map

Thanks,
BTW I noticed a text error there too :P

P.S. I wont be updating this for a while due to some important personal problems, I will still however get the progress report and screenshots posted on Thursday.

a new killer, ramoteh
March 19th, 2008, 01:10 PM
So tommorrow theres an update ;)

Cartmic
March 24th, 2008, 04:02 AM
So tommorrow theres an update ;)

Sorry for the late update, like I siad in my previous post iv alot on at the minute.

Right updates!

Iv been working on getting the connections right also working on the professor oak 'walk you to his lab' code, I will put a video up as soon as its finished, which was my plan for the update but other matters have prevented me from doing so

Right here are some screenshots:

~Red
March 24th, 2008, 04:33 AM
where's the beta? I wanna play, also, what's Sulon, Gakton, Mikon and Rose Islands cos ive never heard of them before lol. Also, in Pokemon Prism there's a sea route leading off the top of the Naljo map, is CBM intertwining your hack with his or something? You two would also make a great pair at hacking lol.

EDIT: So kinda like this:
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/2093/worldmapst2.jpg
(it took me 5min thats why it isnt very accurate)

I have only included the places i know off that list (except South Rijon and orange islands but i couldnt find a good enough map of those lol)

Cartmic
March 24th, 2008, 05:05 AM
where's the beta? I wanna play, also, what's Sulon, Gakton, Mikon and Rose Islands cos ive never heard of them before lol. Also, in Pokemon Prism there's a sea route leading off the top of the Naljo map, is CBM intertwining your hack with his or something? You two would also make a great pair at hacking lol.

Sulon was part of Pokemon Cobalt and Pokemon Beryl.

Well the Rosé (pronounced Rose'ay) Islands was in a hack called Pokemon Zen I did awhile ago, I cant rememeber if I actually gave it to people. Back then they were actually called the Olay Islands but I decided to 'Olay' as it was jsut a place holder till I found a good name that wasnt ripping off a Moisturising product :P and had some relevance to the islands story.

Gakto was in another red hack of mine, i'll go fish out some of its stuff to show, iv attached an image of Gakto when it used to be above Crion.

What it is all about 3 and a half years ago i set out to create a whole world of pokemon lands and took out ones that would be good fro the Crion stories.

Yes Naljo is connected to Crion, have you talked to the man on the broken bridge i Prisim on Route 75?

P.S. I found a really old advert banner for violet. It has no antialising on the text, but im working to redo of the whole banner as the source file is back on my computer at my parents house hence I cant just take that and antialise it.

dont ask me what is going on in the slogan XD its terrible :D


Nice, yeah kind of like that :P

Hat?
March 24th, 2008, 05:43 AM
The Gakto Region looks nice Cartmic, i'm going to have to play Prism a bit more to get to that broken bridge place, I haven't had much time to play any hacks lately.

~Red
March 24th, 2008, 05:53 AM
Sulon was part of Pokemon Cobalt and Pokemon Beryl.

Well the Rosé (pronounced Rose'ay) Islands was in a hack called Pokemon Zen I did awhile ago, I cant rememeber if I actually gave it to people. Back then they were actually called the Olay Islands but I decided to 'Olay' as it was jsut a place holder till I found a good name that wasnt ripping off a Moisturising product :P and had some relevance to the islands story.

Gakto was in another red hack of mine, i'll go fish out some of its stuff to show, iv attached an image of Gakto when it used to be above Crion.

What it is all about 3 and a half years ago i set out to create a whole world of pokemon lands and took out ones that would be good fro the Crion stories.

Yes Naljo is connected to Crion, have you talked to the man on the broken bridge i Prisim on Route 75?

P.S. I found a really old advert banner for violet. It has no antialising on the text, but im working to redo of the whole banner as the source file is back on my computer at my parents house hence I cant just take that and antialise it.

dont ask me what is going on in the slogan XD its terrible :D


Nice, yeah kind of like that :P

How did you get permission of CBM? Or have both of you been planning this for some time.

Cartmic
March 24th, 2008, 07:04 AM
How did you get permission of CBM? Or have both of you been planning this for some time.

Its been the plan for sometime.

My first idea was to model my own world after Sherwood forest to make a robin hood story, the end result was poor but it was all complete minus various text editing. Then I had been playing Dtyler's/ER translations Orange Island Adventures and tried to carry on from where he left off, but not knowing what islands there were I left it, at the same time I had found Coolboyman's Pokemon Brown beta, so this inspired me to create a hack around a new land called Crion, and having had most of my experience in hacking upto that point with RBGY I made it a red hack. Anyway I think it was 2004 that Crion moved from miles and miles north of Kanto (I had some idea of some misty area of sea just above Kanto at the time, which turned out quite good as look what is now in that misty bit of sea: Shinnou [I will have to double check my notes on that though])
to next to Johto, then when Naljo came I wasn't expecting Coolboyman to acknowledge Crions existence in his version of the Pokemon World so I just put it in an alternate universe, but that alternate universe disappeared when announced that Crion is above Naljo, that was great, it meant I was actually able to include a part of it in my game Violet.

~Red
March 24th, 2008, 07:08 AM
Its been the plan for sometime.

My first idea was to model my own world after Sherwood forest to make a robin hood story, the end result was poor but it was all complete minus various text editing. Then I had been playing Dtyler's/ER translations Orange Island Adventures and tried to carry on from where he left off, but not knowing what islands there were I left it, at the same time I had found Coolboyman's Pokemon Brown beta, so this inspired me to create a hack around a new land called Crion, and having had most of my experience in hacking upto that point with RBGY I made it a red hack. Anyway I think it was 2004 that Crion moved from miles and miles north of Kanto (I had some idea of some misty area of sea just above Kanto at the time, which turned out quite good as look what is now in that misty bit of sea: Shinnou [I will have to double check my notes on that though])
to next to Johto, then when Naljo came I wasn't expecting Coolboyman to acknowledge Crions existence in his version of the Pokemon World so I just put it in an alternate universe, but that alternate universe disappeared when announced that Crion is above Naljo, that was great, it meant I was actually able to include a part of it in my game Violet.

So CBM just included it and you're ok with it? Well obviously you are but ya'know...

cooley
March 24th, 2008, 07:10 AM
Oh, So you're Back to hacking Old Gen...
Nice hack, Especially since is a hack of Red.

That means limited tools but it also means that you have to have Good knowledge
of Hex to make this hack work.

There's a Red Tool called Pokepic Decompression, something like that.
It inserts and Exports sprites and replaces them.
Good luck!

Hat?
March 24th, 2008, 07:14 AM
Huh? I've never heard of that tool before.

Cartmic
March 24th, 2008, 07:17 AM
Oh, So you're Back to hacking Old Gen...
Nice hack, Especially since is a hack of Red.

That means limited tools but it also means that you have to have Good knowledge
of Hex to make this hack work.

There's a Red Tool called Pokepic Decompression, something like that.
It inserts and Exports sprites and replaces them.
Good luck!

Not that I know off, unless you are talking about one of MeanMrMustards tools that he doesnt want you to release..........
Iv no plans to change the pics anyway its not an important matter, its the story implementation that is the important part.

cooley
March 24th, 2008, 07:24 AM
Nah, Its one by Foofatron on PHO.

If Mr.Mustard had one, he'd share it with me, besides
he doesn't know much about hacking Red.

Cartmic
March 24th, 2008, 07:34 AM
So CBM just included it and you're ok with it? Well obviously you are but ya'know...

Yeah, well it was kind of one of those "yeah" agreements:
"so your in the actual pokemon world?, yeah I am" "cool so are you". etc. etc.

~Red
March 24th, 2008, 07:41 AM
Yeah, well it was kind of one of those "yeah" agreements:
"so your in the actual pokemon world?, yeah I am" "cool so are you". etc. etc.

I see...btw ive gone off of Advance hacks at the moment. I prefer old school lol. Do you think im abit young being 13? I get that impression from alot of people that "o luk a yung
h4xx0r, h1s h4x must b3 cr4p!!" I'm asking people at random whether they think im too young lol.

EDIT: What is the main pokemon in this hack?

Cartmic
March 24th, 2008, 09:46 AM
I see...btw ive gone off of Advance hacks at the moment. I prefer old school lol. Do you think im abit young being 13? I get that impression from alot of people that "o luk a yung
h4xx0r, h1s h4x must b3 cr4p!!" I'm asking people at random whether they think im too young lol.

EDIT: What is the main pokemon in this hack?

Dont worry about it, if you try hard with your hack you will be fine.

I got into Emulation when I was 13 then rom hacking when I was 14/15 and I tried from the beggning, I had to back then, there went all the tools like we have nowadays.

Well the Pokemon that appears in the title screen is Alakazam.

~Red
March 24th, 2008, 09:58 AM
Dont worry about it, if you try hard with your hack you will be fine.

I got into Emulation when I was 13 then rom hacking when I was 14/15 and I tried from the beggning, I had to back then, there went all the tools like we have nowadays.

Well the Pokemon that appears in the title screen is Alakazam.

I started hacking when i was 9. Here i made this for you:
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/5595/userbarce8.gif
You need some support lol.
[IMGhttp://img387.imageshack.us/img387/5595/userbarce8.gif[/IMG]

Cartmic
March 24th, 2008, 10:06 AM
I started hacking when i was 9. Here i made this for you:
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/5595/userbarce8.gif
You need some support lol.
[IMGhttp://img387.imageshack.us/img387/5595/userbarce8.gif[/IMG]

Thank you very much :) thats a great banner thingy.

~Red
March 26th, 2008, 08:31 AM
Glad you like it!! I cant wait to see this develope.

zel 2.0
March 30th, 2008, 03:09 PM
If it is possible, can you explain what's the importance of Pokemon Schools? What will we be doing there? (Making tests and the like?)

Well, waiting for the next update! ;)

Cartmic
April 3rd, 2008, 03:30 AM
If it is possible, can you explain what's the importance of Pokemon Schools? What will we be doing there? (Making tests and the like?)

Well, waiting for the next update! ;)

Sorry for the late reply i have been tied up with life* stuff.

Schools - Give you tips on how to fight certain types of people, also on the geography and history of crion.

Iv also a another special building:
Pokemon Shelters - Pokemon Rehabilitation centres for abused and abandoned Pokemon, there is a special machine to remove HM's from Pokemon used as slaves for there HM using abilities.

Hat?
April 12th, 2008, 12:22 PM
Hey, how's Violet coming along then?

Cartmic
April 12th, 2008, 01:37 PM
Hey, how's Violet coming along then?

Hey, how's Violet coming along then?

Yey! I have had to wait untill some one posted a reply to update it as it is not right to double post. Thank you.

Well incase you didnt see my document on the rbgy town map stuff I'll post some here.

Iv finaly got Crion's map done, now im working on the 'map cross which town is where on the town map thingy' to get all the towns in the right place, also some good news on some old maps I created and lost. I found them again! So now I hope to pick up the pace on this hack and soon begin the road to the first "real" beta.

This is what I had to manualy type to get Crions map inserted, I had to end up repointing it as it tured out to be a lot bigger than the Kanto map:

0 - Blank Tile (DONT USE!)
1 - Alternate Land Route Across
2 - Alternate Land Route Up
3 - Alternate Land mark
4 - Water
5 - Town
6 - Land
7 - White Title/Path
8 - North East Lands end
9 - North West Lands End
A - South West Lands End
B - South East Lands End
C - Land mark
D - One Sea Route Dot
E - Sea Dot Across
F - Sea Dot Up

Line One - 48 91 61 81 44 A1 64 - Yes
Line Two - 41 91 61 81 42 91 61 51 62 45 64 - Yes
Line Three - 41 61 C1 61 41 91 62 71 61 51 81 44 A1 63 - Yes
Line Four - 41 A1 71 B1 41 61 73 61 71 B1 45 63 - Yes
Line Five - 42 C1 41 91 61 51 63 71 B1 45 A1 62 - Yes
Line Six - 42 71 91 75 61 51 61 81 45 62 - Yes
Line Seven - 42 71 61 71 61 51 61 71 61 71 62 45 A1 61 - Yes
Line Eight - 91 81 71 61 71 B1 F1 A1 71 61 C1 61 B1 47 - Yes
Line Nine - 72 51 72 41 F1 41 71 63 (49:Last tile 1st tile on L.10) - Yes
Line Ten - A1 61 B1 41 F1 91 71 51 71 C1 81 41 91 61 81 (47:Last 4 tiles 1st on line 11) - Yes
Line Eleven - 91 61 71 62 71 66 B1 42 91 - Yes
Line Twelve - 44 A1 61 C1 62 71 65 B1 42 91 61 - Yes
Line Thirteen - B1 61 A1 42 64 51 73 51 71 E3 C1 61 - Yes
Line Forteen - 61 51 71 E2 C1 62 B1 F1 A1 64 81 42 A1 61 - Yes
Line Fifteen - A1 62 81 41 A1 B1 42 F1 42 A1 B1 A1 B1 (45:Last tile 1st tile on L.16) - Yes
Line Sixteen - A1 61 B1 45 F1 4F:Last 5 tiles 1st tiles on L.17) - Yes
Line Seventeen - 44 F1 4A - Yes

Iv attached to this post a screenshot of your character on 'Route 135' though it says 'Route 1' thuis is becvause i have yet to repoint the text.

zel 2.0
April 12th, 2008, 02:55 PM
Well, the map looks interesting, as well as the info for making it. Good luck for the rest of the stuff you have to do!

Oh, by the way, hot tip for when you get stuck in the "I cant post or I'll be double posting" situation: You could use the Edit button, pick delete your post, and then post everything again. Yay for valid self bumpings! ;P

Hat?
April 13th, 2008, 03:19 AM
Yeah the map looks interesting Cartmic, lol I saved the town map doc aswell for future reference.

Cartmic
April 15th, 2008, 02:22 PM
Time for an update:

Im going around tweaking bits and bobs here and there with the town map still, also about to import all the maps in Crion from my various incarnations of Violet. Then i'll get editing and repoing the text.

I'll have another update on Thursday, iv been modifying the font, and various gaphics.

Cartmic.

zel 2.0
April 15th, 2008, 02:35 PM
Good to hear about the font change (it was a bit simple)

Well, let's wait for those new images. What about scripting new events? Have you done anything about that?

Virtual Chatot
April 15th, 2008, 02:36 PM
Can't wait to see what you've changed, I hope it looks nice :3

Cartmic
April 15th, 2008, 02:40 PM
Good to hear about the font change (it was a bit simple)

Well, let's wait for those new images. What about scripting new events? Have you done anything about that?

Yeah, well that font would have never made it out into the new game, id rather have had the orignal RBGY font than that.

That will come in time, they are slightly more difficult than in other games, but not impossible.

thethethethe
April 20th, 2008, 01:30 AM
Any updates here Cartmic? It's been a few days so I'm a little curious.

Cartmic
April 20th, 2008, 10:52 AM
Oh sorry I forgot, then I rememerd then I thought I posted an update, which so I forgot again XD

Sorry Iv a busy week so no updates for awhile unfortuatly.