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daveyboy
April 7th, 2008, 12:11 PM
Delivers what it promises

Metagross@Choice Band
Adamant- Clear Body
EVs:252hp,252 attack
Thunder Punch
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Explosion

Seriosuly mean. Enough said

Cloyster@leftovers
Relaxed-Shell armour
EVs:252HP,252 Def
Toxic Spikes
Rapid Spin
Ice beam
Explosion

Gets in on physical sweepers. gyrados and the like. Sets up toxic spikes or a spinning job and then kaboom. ice beam for annoying dragons aka outraging garchomp.

Suicune@leftovers
Bold- Pressure
Evs 252 hp, 252 Def
Calm Mind
Surf
Roar
Rest

Good calm minding wall. Deals with infernape and the like. Surf for stab. Does this need ice beam in place of rest though?

Deoxys S@life orb
Naive- Pressure
EVs 104 attack, 252 spcl attack, 152 speed
Superpower
Psycho Boost
Ice beam
Shadow Ball

Should still be in uber but i aint complaining

Dragonite@Lum berry
Jolly- Inner focus
Evs 252 attack, 200 speed, 56 Hp
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Earthquake
Fire blast

Ddancing outrager. Fireblast for skarm/bronzong.

Ursaring@poison orb
Jolly- Quick feet
Evs 252 attack, 252 speed
Protect
Facade
Crunch
Earthquake

Everyone expects guts with ursaring but i still like this. Gives it handy speed to outrun unexpecting foes.


Give your views. whats this team need??

Dark_Azelf
April 7th, 2008, 02:56 PM
Delivers what it promises

Metagross@Choice Band
Adamant- Clear Body
EVs:152hp,252 attack/104 speed
Thunder Punch
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Explosion

yeah, and you wont be lasting long not outspeeding Magnezone.

Cloyster@leftovers
Relaxed-Shell armour
EVs:252HP /200 Sp.Def / 56 sp.att
Spikes
Rapid Spin
Ice beam
Explosion / Surf

2 problems, is already has like 430 def, with no evs, so pack them into Sp.Def (Which sucks on this guy) to take un-stabbed Hidden powers and it makes coming in on surfs and Ice Beams that much easier. Also pleas dont run Toxic spikes on a team thats THIS weak to heracross.


Suicune@leftovers
Bold- Pressure
Evs 252 hp, 252 Def
Calm Mind
Surf
Roar
Rest

Yeah, but it cant take a Nasty Plot Grass Knot from Ape.

Deoxys S@life orb
Naive- Pressure
EVs 160 attack, 252 sp.att, 96 speed
Superpower
Psycho Boost
Ice beam
Shadow Ball

Why should it be uber ? It cant sweep for crap lol. 160 ATT evs 2hkos Bliss with Super Power, 96 speed is all it needs to outrun Scarf Chomp.

Dragonite@Lum berry
Jolly- Inner focus
Evs 252 attack, 200 speed, 56 Hp
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Earthquake
Fire blast

Nice.

Ursaring@poison orb
Jolly- Quick feet
Evs 252 attack, 252 speed
Protect
Facade
Crunch
Earthquake

Steels wall this, so id suggest Fire Punch >> Protect.





changes in bold.

Well, it looks ok, but id keep Deoxys alive, or Mixed Infernape beats the living daylights out of everything.


Also nothing can come in on Gyrados OR Heracross. You only hope is to revenge kill with Deoxys.

daveyboy
April 8th, 2008, 08:35 AM
thanks for your rate/changes. Heracross weakness noted.

Elegant Snake
April 8th, 2008, 08:59 AM
Delivers what it promises

Metagross@Choice Band
Adamant- Clear Body
EVs:252hp,252 attack
Thunder Punch
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Explosion

Seriosuly mean. Enough said Nice, consider bullet punch over thunderpunch

Cloyster@leftovers
Relaxed-Shell armour
EVs:252HP,252 Def
Toxic Spikes
Rapid Spin
Ice beam
Explosion

Gets in on physical sweepers. gyrados and the like. Sets up toxic spikes or a spinning job and then kaboom. ice beam for annoying dragons aka outraging garchomp.

Very nice

Suicune@leftovers
Bold- Pressure
Evs 252 hp, 252 Def
Calm Mind
Surf
Roar
Rest

Good calm minding wall. Deals with infernape and the like. Surf for stab. Does this need ice beam in place of rest though?

If you Cm up first, and ur against something that can't ko you easily, feel free to put rest in

Deoxys S@life orb
Naive- Pressure
EVs 104 attack, 252 spcl attack, 152 speed
Superpower
Psycho Boost
Ice beam
Shadow Ball

Should still be in uber but i aint complaining U might wanna take this out, other people might not be happy with you using ubers.

Dragonite@Lum berry
Jolly- Inner focus
Evs 252 attack, 200 speed, 56 Hp
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Earthquake
Fire blast

Ddancing outrager. Fireblast for skarm/bronzong. If ur gunna be Dancing, consider fire punch, but with a couple of DD's, i'm ot sure which hits most on skarm.

Ursaring@poison orb
Jolly- Quick feet
Evs 252 attack, 252 speed
Protect
Facade
Crunch
Earthquake

Everyone expects guts with ursaring but i still like this. Gives it handy speed to outrun unexpecting foes.

Nice.


Give your views. whats this team need?? Not quite sure, you do sort of have a hera weakness though. as posted by azelf.

daveyboy
April 8th, 2008, 09:12 AM
thanks for the rate. Yeah deoxys speed version has been moved from uber to OU thats why i'm testing it out. it was deemed to weak to remain in uber so it was lowered. otherwise i wouldn't use it because this isn't an uber team.

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
April 8th, 2008, 07:44 PM
I urge you to get a better fighting resist than Dragonite...especially since it can't really sweep that well until the late game in many cases. Deoxys is okay, but fighters commonly have a a ghost attack.

Also, run fire Punch on Nite. Sakrm will be out of the way and Brongong and Forry will go down anyways...plus, it works off the DD boost.

Mike™
April 8th, 2008, 07:51 PM
I urge you to get a better fighting resist than Dragonite...especially since it can't really sweep that well until the late game in many cases. Deoxys is okay, but fighters commonly have a a ghost attack.

Also, run fire Punch on Nite. Sakrm will be out of the way and Brongong and Forry will go down anyways...plus, it works off the DD boost.

Would Uxie be one? I know Azelf's one, but considering It's frail defenses and HP, it wouldn't take it so well as Uxie, or Mesprit, for that matter.

But, with Ghosts Attacks in mind, Gliscor is pretty sturdy, and resists Fighting and flying, I'm pretty sure.

And Agreed on D-Nite. Steelers just lol at you without F-Punch.

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
April 8th, 2008, 08:08 PM
The Pittsburgh Steelers laugh at Nite? Woah, they really ARE tough.

Also, Gliscor doesn't resist Flying...it is a reliable ground immunity.

Really though, one 4x ice weak is enough, personally I would use Dusknoir or Weezing in this case. Both stop Heracross and can stop Gyarados.

Mike™
April 8th, 2008, 08:11 PM
The Pittsburgh Steelers laugh at Nite? Woah, they really ARE tough.

Also, Gliscor doesn't resist Flying...it is a reliable ground immunity.

Really though, one 4x ice weak is enough, personally I would use Dusknoir or Weezing in this case. Both stop Heracross and can stop Gyarados.

I meant Fighting and Ghost. Hehe...

But really, if you're worreid about Hera, Weezing is fine. Gyara,

Starmie@leftovers
172 HP / 120 SP.ATT / 216 SPEED
Timid Nature
Trait : Natural Cure
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Recover
- Rapid Spin

Thats the spinner.


Starmie@leftovers
40 HP / 252 SP.ATT / 216 SPEED
Timid Nature
Trait : Natural Cure
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Recover
- ice Beam

Im also thinking this

Infernape@Choice Band
252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
Jolly Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Close Combat
- U-Turn / Thunderpunch
- Stone Edge / Thunderpunch. Credit goes to Azelf for the sets, obviously.

Anti Pop Culture Warrior
April 8th, 2008, 08:13 PM
It doesn't resist ghost either 0_0

Also, getting starmie to counter Gyarados doesn't seem like a bright idea to me, as Weezing walls it very effectively.