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Arch_2008
April 10th, 2008, 01:14 AM
Ok, now after trying this out on shoddy, it's worked pretty well, so here it is:


Gyarados@ Leftovers *wormfish*
Adamant Nature
212 HP / 16 Atk / 180 Def / 100 Spe
- EQ
- Waterfall/Ice Fang
- Taunt
- Dragon Dance

So basic Tauntdos, and it draws in electric attacks


Electivire@ Expert Belt
Adamant Nature
252 Atk / 252 Spe / 6 HP
- EQ
- T-Punch
- Ice Punch
- Cross Chop

And gives this guy a speed boost, physical sweeper


Alakazam@ Expert Belt/Life Orb *Psy Guy*
Timid Nature
252 SAtk / 252 Spe / 6 HP
- Energy Ball
- Psychic
- Focus Blast
- Shadow Ball

Special sweeper, tossing up between expert belt and life orb


Starmie@ Leftovers
Timid Nature
Natural Cure
172 HP / 120 SpA / 216 Spe
- Rapid Spin
- Recover
- Surf
- Ice Beam/Thunderbolt

My Spinner, deciding between Ice Beam and T-Bolt though, might go with T-Bolt though, as Chomp's now Uber(yay)



Blissey@ Leftovers
Bold nature
Natural Cure
58 HP / 252 Def / 200 SDef
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Aromatherapy
- Softboiled

Standard Fat Blob


Skarmory@ Leftovers
Impish nature
Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP/162 Atk/96 Def
- Spikes
- Whirlwind
- Brave Bird
- Roost

Standard Skarm



I'm thinking of replacing Blissy with Mantine though, then i can replace Gyarados with another pokemon, since Mantine fills the job of both of them.
Also thinking of replacing Skarm with Bronzong, but i need a spiker

Dark_Azelf
April 10th, 2008, 06:09 PM
A few things to say, Taunt/Dragon Dance/Earthquake/Crunch Tyranitar says hi ! Bulky ground type please to help with that, and this way you dont need Vire to take electric attacks. And GyaraVire fails in all honesty, its so predictable, and E-Vire is walled easily as it is. Id advise getting something that at least does something remotely productive.

Put T-Bolt on Star to handle Foe Gyarados.


And ive never seen such bad Skarmory evs 252 HP / 16 ATT / 200 DEF / 40 SP.DEF@Shed Shell please, or Magnezone and weavile just go through you like a hot knife through butter, Zone Traps Skarm and weavile is free to sweep. If SR is up and you cant spin it away due to Starmie not being able to come in on Weavile, it beats Gyarados aswell.


Blissey wants Calm aswell. Put thunderwave on it, without it, ive found out first hand it gets raped by Nasty Plot Togekiss, Azelf, Porygon-z and other stupidly powerful sp.sweepers. Taunt Metal Sound heatran also causes problems.


No solid fighting resist is bad aswell, this leave you CB Hera, Gallade, Machamp weak. Gyarados cant keep coming in on these and all have moves to deal with Dos aswell.


So, as i see it, this team it too much just SkarmBliss and not much support for them.

Mike™
April 10th, 2008, 07:16 PM
A few things to say, Taunt/Dragon Dance/Earthquake/Crunch Tyranitar says hi ! Bulky ground type please to help with that, and this way you dont need Vire to take electric attacks. And GyaraVire fails in all honesty, its so predictable, and E-Vire is walled easily as it is. Id advise getting something that at least does something remotely productive.

Put T-Bolt on Star to handle Foe Gyarados.


And ive never seen such bad Skarmory evs 252 HP / 16 ATT / 200 DEF / 40 SP.DEF@Shed Shell please, or Magnezone and weavile just go through you like a hot knife through butter, Zone Traps Skarm and weavile is free to sweep. If SR is up and you cant spin it away due to Starmie not being able to come in on Weavile, it beats Gyarados aswell.


Blissey wants Calm aswell. Put thunderwave on it, without it, ive found out first hand it gets raped by Nasty Plot Togekiss, Azelf, Porygon-z and other stupidly powerful sp.sweepers. Taunt Metal Sound heatran also causes problems.


No solid fighting resist is bad aswell, this leave you CB Hera, Gallade, Machamp weak. Gyarados cant keep coming in on these and all have moves to deal with Dos aswell.


So, as i see it, this team it too much just SkarmBliss and not much support for them.

Agreed @ the bolded statements.

40 HP / 216 SpD / 252 Def works much better @ Calm Nature, like Azelf said.