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~Celebi~
April 12th, 2008, 10:58 AM
This is my Pearl team which is currently under construction. Basically I just need some nature's and I'm complete. My DD-Tar isn't anywhere near complete, I still need the Charmander to breed with my Altaria.

Swampert @ Leftovers
Nature:???
EV's:???/???/???
Earthquake
Ice Beam
Protect/Roar
Surf
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Tyranitar @ ???
Jolly
EV's:???/???/???
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Crunch
Dragon Dance
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Salamence @ Lum Berry
Adamant
EV's:148HP/248Atk/112Spd
Dragon Claw
Flamethrower
Earthquake
Dragon Dance/HP Flying
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Metagross @ Lum Berry
Adamant
EV's:140HP/252Atk/28Def/88Spd
Agility
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Explosion
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Gardevoir @ Leftovers
Modest
EV's:172HP/136Def/20Spd/46SpAtl/136SpDef
Psychic
Calm Mind
Thunderbolt
Hypnosis
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Weavile @ Life Orb
Jolly
EV's:252Spd/252Atk/4HP
Ice Punch
Swords Dance
Night Slash
Brick Break
or
Blissey @ Leftovers
Careful/Calm
EV's:252HP/252SpDef/4Def or 152HP/252SpDef/104Def
Softboiled
Thunderbolt
Wish
???
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So yeah, most of this team is incomplete. Any suggestions would be useful. Thanks for your time.

Vance
April 12th, 2008, 04:59 PM
I reccomend Relaxed for Swampert, and as for Tyranitar's EV spread:

252 Spd, 252 Att, 6 HP is what I use, and it's great.

Dark_Azelf
April 12th, 2008, 05:18 PM
Swampert @ Leftovers
Nature:Relaxed
EV's:240HP / 212 DEF /58 SP.ATT
Earthquake
Ice Beam
Roar
Surf
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Tyranitar @Leftovers / Life Orb / Black glasses
Jolly
EV's:252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
Stone Edge/ Taunt
Earthquake
Crunch
Dragon Dance

Taunt shuts down walls. Black Glasses crunch 2hko's swampert after a dd, if life orb recoil puts you off.
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Metagross @ Leftovers / Life Orb
Adamant
EV's:152 HP / 252 ATT / 104 SPEED
Agility
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Explosion / Thunderpunch

202 speed which 104 speed evs give you so you can reach 404 after an agility.
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Gardevoir @ Leftovers
Timid
EV's : 56 HP / 252 Sp.A / 200 Spe
Trait : Trace
Psychic
Calm Mind
Thunderbolt
Hypnosis / Wish / Will-o-wisp
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Blissey @ Leftovers
Calm
252 def / 216 sp.def / 40 hp
Trait : Natural Cure
Softboiled
Seismic Toss
Aromatherapy
Thunderwave

yeah, lets use that.

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Changes are in bold

Dont use weavile and t-tar on the same team, 2 4x fighting weaks = fail.

You need a solid fighting resist, and heracross counter make Salamence tanky.

Salamence@leftovers
252 HP / 220 DEF / 36 SPEED
Bold
- Toxic
- Roost
- Flamethrower
- Draco Meteor


Being able to switch directly into herecross and not bother about Stone Edge ftw !!! Scarf Garchomps Outrage Cant even ohko this =) and you can ohko that thing with Draco Meteor. Toxic wrecks stuff that thinks they can wall you after the sp.att drop.

Mike™
April 12th, 2008, 05:53 PM
Changes are in bold

Dont use weavile and t-tar on the same team, 2 4x fighting weaks = fail.

You need a solid fighting resist, and heracross counter make Salamence tanky.

Salamence@leftovers
252 HP / 220 DEF / 36 SPEED
Bold
- Toxic
- Roost
- Flamethrower
- Draco Meteor


Being able to switch directly into herecross and not bother about Stone Edge ftw !!! Scarf Garchomps Outrage Cant even ohko this =) and you can ohko that thing with Draco Meteor. Toxic wrecks stuff that thinks they can wall you after the sp.att drop.

Shouldn't you be giving credit to the guy on Smogon who made that?

Yeah, listen to the above people's comments, especially DA's.

But honestly, CBGross is just so much better this gen then AgiliGross.

Dark_Azelf
April 12th, 2008, 06:31 PM
Shouldn't you be giving credit to the guy on Smogon who made that?

Yeah, listen to the above people's comments, especially DA's.

But honestly, CBGross is just so much better this gen then AgiliGross.

No, why would i give credit ? What has that got to do with anything ?


Its like saying " i give credit to smogon for Agiligross's evs," it doesnt need mentioning when i rate a team =/

~Celebi~
April 14th, 2008, 07:54 AM
Thanks DA. I'm having trouble with the Agiligross Moveset. Everything is easy except for one minor problem. I can't teach it explosion. Do I need to do this on Emerald and then migrate or can I somehow move tutor it? I just realised now I wrote Thunderbolt. Meant Thunderwave. One question to you though DA. For Gardevoir you colded both Wish and Will-O-Wisp. Which one should I use. As for CBGross, I don't have enough points atm to get it as I'm trying to get now 1 EQ from there. Will get it though but Agiligross (without explosion) goes okay with the Life Orb s I don't see why I'll need the CB. May change so yeah, if you could post a good moveset, EV spread and nature, I'd like it.

Dark_Azelf
April 14th, 2008, 01:39 PM
Thanks DA. I'm having trouble with the Agiligross Moveset. Everything is easy except for one minor problem. I can't teach it explosion. Do I need to do this on Emerald and then migrate or can I somehow move tutor it?

Explosion is a tm , you have to play the slots and get bonus round 10 times i believe. Then talk to the person who gives you coins.


Thunderpunch is an emerald move tuoter move, so yes, you pal park that.



I just realised now I wrote Thunderbolt. Meant Thunderwave. One question to you though DA. For Gardevoir you colded both Wish and Will-O-Wisp. Which one should I use.

its up to you. Wish Heals the team and Gardevoir, whilst Will-0-wisp cripples physical attackers, namely Pursuiters, such as Weavile and T-Tar.

As for CBGross, I don't have enough points atm to get it as I'm trying to get now 1 EQ from there. Will get it though but Agiligross (without explosion) goes okay with the Life Orb s I don't see why I'll need the CB. May change so yeah, if you could post a good moveset, EV spread and nature, I'd like it.

CB = more power


Metagorss@Choice Band
152 HP / 252 ATT / 104 SPEED
Adamant Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Thunderpunch / Bullet Punch / Pursuit / ice Punch /Zen head butt



Alternately,, Life Orb will go nice on Agiligross.

~Celebi~
April 14th, 2008, 09:03 PM
Slot Bonus round thingy:What do you mean by ten bonus rounds. As in, get the Clefairy 10 times or make it go up to 10? I think it's the first but I'm just checking up. I reached 7 before I quit so yeah, I got pretty close if it's the first one.

I was tesing out my current Metgross which only knows the moves Agility and Meteor Mash from that moveset list but he actually doesn't play too bad. Owned pretty much everyone. I reached Tower Tycoon Palmer because of him. then that guys Milotic Hydro Pumped Meta (2HKO) and my Swampert was 1H so I closed it.

Dark_Azelf
April 14th, 2008, 09:11 PM
Slot Bonus round thingy:What do you mean by ten bonus rounds. As in, get the Clefairy 10 times or make it go up to 10? I think it's the first but I'm just checking up. I reached 7 before I quit so yeah, I got pretty close if it's the first one.

I was tesing out my current Metgross which only knows the moves Agility and Meteor Mash from that moveset list but he actually doesn't play too bad. Owned pretty much everyone. I reached Tower Tycoon Palmer because of him. then that guys Milotic Hydro Pumped Meta (2HKO) and my Swampert was 1H so I closed it.

Get the clefairy on for ten rounds without it going away. its hard, but worth it ;)

Oh, i thought you werent using Agiligross anymore, yeah, use the set i gave in my first post anyways, it has the evs and stuff.

Kayashi
April 14th, 2008, 09:15 PM
Dont use weavile and t-tar on the same team, 2 4x fighting weaks = fail.
I don't think Weavile should be counted for its weaknesses, since its nearly OHKO'd by anything. AMIRITE? >:

Dark_Azelf
April 14th, 2008, 09:18 PM
I don't think Weavile should be counted for its weaknesses, since its nearly OHKO'd by anything. AMIRITE? >:

Meh, almost everything but it can survive a specs starmies surf and switch directly into an unboosted Azelf flamethrower and live =p, But ts nearly as bad as using Mence and Chomp on the same team though, 2 4x weakness i discourage greatly from doing.

~Celebi~
April 14th, 2008, 09:20 PM
Get the clefairy on for ten rounds without it going away. its hard, but worth it ;)

Oh, i thought you werent using Agiligross anymore, yeah, use the set i gave in my first post anyways, it has the evs and stuff.

I am. I may make two. Both the CBGross and the Agiligross. Do you have any recommondations on how I could EV train them. Like where are some good spots in Emerald to train a Metang/Metagross before I teach them the moves (Explosion and Thunderpunch[for the CBGross]and receiving EQ in the underground place) and then transferring them. I hope that made sense.

Dark_Azelf
April 14th, 2008, 09:24 PM
I am. I may make two. Both the CBGross and the Agiligross. Do you have any recommondations on how I could EV train them. Like where are some good spots in Emerald to train a Metang/Metagross before I teach them the moves (Explosion and Thunderpunch[for the CBGross]and receiving EQ in the underground place) and then transferring them. I hope that made sense.

Marrill give 2 evs for hp, surf in the water in petalburg.

Zubat give one ev speed, Golbats give 2

Carvanha give 1 ev point in att, surf in route where weather institute is.


Ev spread is 152 hp / 252 att / 104 speed, so yeah.

~Celebi~
April 15th, 2008, 07:09 AM
spped will be fairly easy. just give vitamins and ko 2 Golbats. As for Hp, should i train on biddof's or Bibarel's in D/P maybe? So Life orb on my Agiligross and CB on the CBGross. Ok. Thanks for the movesets and everything.

Lalapizzame
April 15th, 2008, 02:06 PM
spped will be fairly easy. just give vitamins and ko 2 Golbats. As for Hp, should i train on biddof's or Bibarel's in D/P maybe? So Life orb on my Agiligross and CB on the CBGross. Ok. Thanks for the movesets and everything.
Bibarel gives 2 Attack EVs while Bidoof gives 1 HP EV.So either way,you could EV train on both of them.

~Celebi~
April 15th, 2008, 08:58 PM
well that's awkward. i've never heard of them switching the type of evs they give. oh well. i'll get on eof those power things for HP so that it trains the evs x2. Yeah, train both is a good idea.

DA:Just noticed now when I was looking over some things in your first post. For Gardevoir, 200 Speed EV's or 200 SpAtk EV's?

Dark_Azelf
April 15th, 2008, 09:05 PM
well that's awkward. i've never heard of them switching the type of evs they give. oh well. i'll get on eof those power things for HP so that it trains the evs x2. Yeah, train both is a good idea.

DA:Just noticed now when I was looking over some things in your first post. For Gardevoir, 200 Speed EV's or 200 SpAtk EV's?

56 HP / 252 SP.ATT / 200 SPEED


Im sure i wrote that before.

~Celebi~
April 16th, 2008, 09:01 PM
OK. Thanks for clearing that up. Are there any other moves for a standard Blissey other than Seismic Toss? I'll see if I can get a Chansey in the FireRed my friends lending me but I'm not too sure where to catch/obtain it. Apart from that, I need a Charizard/Charmander egg and I can get to work on my Emerald to catch a Beldum, breed it and then when it's a Metagross, clone it. My first question is the most important thing as I realised Blissey can't learn Seismic Toss in D/P. Hope I can catch/obatin a Calm natured one straight away.

What about my little Blissey problem. I can't teach it Seismic Toss in D/P which means I have to transfer but how am I going to breed a Chansey on FR with a Roselia. Is there another move I could teach it that would be just as good? Ice Beam for Mence?

Dark_Azelf
April 16th, 2008, 09:23 PM
OK. Thanks for clearing that up. Are there any other moves for a standard Blissey other than Seismic Toss? I'll see if I can get a Chansey in the FireRed my friends lending me but I'm not too sure where to catch/obtain it. Apart from that, I need a Charizard/Charmander egg and I can get to work on my Emerald to catch a Beldum, breed it and then when it's a Metagross, clone it. My first question is the most important thing as I realised Blissey can't learn Seismic Toss in D/P. Hope I can catch/obatin a Calm natured one straight away.

What about my little Blissey problem. I can't teach it Seismic Toss in D/P which means I have to transfer but how am I going to breed a Chansey on FR with a Roselia. Is there another move I could teach it that would be just as good? Ice Beam for Mence?

heal Bell go be used in place or Aroma.

Via : -

Skitty >>Snubbull>>Chansey


Also blissey 100% needs Seismic Toss, or you get beat by stuff, e.g Calm Mind Raikou, and just about everything else.

~Celebi~
April 17th, 2008, 08:57 PM
Mmmmm. that's gonna be hard to get because it's only in FR and I'm not sure how to breed aromatherapy in FR. I know you need Roselia for D/P and Emerald but not for FR because you can't catch it.

Serebii confused me a little. When your pokemon is holding Exp. Share, does it get 1 Ev out of 2 or do both pokemon get 2 Ev's? It wrote on Serebii that they shared the Ev's so if a Pokemon was given 2 Ev's, it would get 1 and if the other pokemon had Pokerus or a Power item, it would then get 2. If it had Pokerus as well, 4 but if none of the mentioned, 1.

Shoould I perhaps replace Gardevoir with Gallade? If so, what's a good nature/EV spread/moveset?