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Revendusman
April 16th, 2008, 06:32 AM
I think it is quite aceptable.

Jaimes
April 16th, 2008, 06:51 AM
I think it is quite aceptable.

Depends your definition of "drugs".. ¬_¬

Prescribed used responsibly= fine..
Legal with no ill effect if used responsibly (e.g P Caffeine/ alcohol) = fine..

Illegal / drug abuse = Absolutely stupid.. Congratulations n00b, you might just be able to kill yourself.

Binary
April 16th, 2008, 08:52 AM
It depends really,
If its something like alcohol, caffiene etc. It can be dealt with. It's not illegal and it has no serious effect, as said above. Drugs as in the illegal type can cause you much harm, not acceptable and it can take away your life! xD

Trainer Kat
April 16th, 2008, 09:24 AM
Honestly?
It really doesn't matter either way to me. I'm not doing it, and I don't want to, but I also don't agree with telling someone they can't do it. Especially when the main argument is 'it hurts yourself and others'. Well, so does alcohol, but that's legal. Alcohol can cause liver disease, and if you drink too much of it, you can kill yourself. Not only that, but if you're incapable of driving properly, you can kill someone else. Are some drugs more dangerous than alcohol? Yes.

One of my best friends smokes pot. Do I condone it? No. Am I going to ditch him as a friend because of it? No. Do I think he's stupid for succumbing to that? Yes.

That said, I don't advocate drug use by any means. I own Requiem for a Dream and, while it's a movie, it still gives you an idea of what drug addictions do to people. Many people know the risks, and yet still choose to do drugs. It's a stupid choice, but they're making it for themselves.

xD; I'm just babbling now.

Long story short:
Do I approve of drugs? Not at all.
Do I think people should be allowed to do them if they choose? Yes.

firepokemon
April 17th, 2008, 04:16 AM
One could answer this question many ways I'll just answer it as I see fit. Alcohol is a legal drug, that can be easily abused and yet is at the same time perfectly acceptable. And yet this drug contributes greatly to violent crime, crime in general, family welfare and many other issues. It causes deaths, injuries and sorrow. But yet we accept it.

Cannabis on the other hand is illegal in most countries. Yet what medical evidence there is suggests that it does less harm to people's health than smoking or alcohol does. It is not typically known as a drug that causes people to be violent. I'm not saying it does not cause violent but I have never witnessed violence by someone smoking cannabis. I have however, seen those same people get very violent when drunk. It clearly contributes to crime in that the selling, growing, manufacturing of it is all illegal. And smoking it or rather consuming it is typically illegal although it can sometimes be decriminalised if someone is merely smoking a joint or something. Does it contribute to crime such as sexual assaults, theft etc. Probably but its not as easily quantified as that of alcohol use.

Party Pills (Pills containing BZP). These were a common occurence just weeks before now in New Zealand prior to legislation being passed in parliament meaning such pills are illegal. The main concern with these pills were that the BZP in the party pills was dangerous and could cause death and injuries. It was and has been illegal in other western countries for many years but was legal here until recently. There were cases of people being hospitalised and one man having ongoing problems. However, whether these people simply ignored the recommended dosages or not is unknown. These pills were primarily introduced here for people who had addictions to either speed or ecstasy and or provide a safe alternative to such drugs. However, it became far more popular than what was originally thought and it first got restricted to 18 years old and plus. But increasingly there were concerns and laws were passed in parliament.

This however, brings a new problem. As now people consuming pills containing BZP are illegally taking them. Also this saw new drugs introduced that are far more unknown. That could be potentially far more dangerous than the previous party pills and which currently do not have restrictions such as selling to 18+ only.

I don't know anything about whether people taking such pills were likely to become violent or contribute to crime. I do know however, that overdoing them meant not being able to sleep and simply not coping. I know this because my mother and her partner observed my brother and a friend taking it.

The last drug I will talk is commonly referred to here as Pi but may well be called Crystal Meth elsewhere. This drug has been constantly in the news for the last five years. It is a drug that clearly causes crime and in particular violent crime. Multiple murders, child abuse, rape, sexual abuse, physical abuse and the like. Its rather expensive and very addictive. Thus people are stealing cars, robbing, stealing money from businesses, perhaps prostituting and the like just to get their next fix. It is a problem because gangs deal in it, it destroys lives and its something that constantly seems to be a problem. It is the one drug that I seriously do not like and will never like.

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Alcohol can be dangerous, but only if it is abused. Party pills can be dangerous but if taken right should not necessarily cause problems. While, cannabis while illegal is common and is considered largely acceptable by many number of people in the community. I have my problems with party pills, I think they can offer a safer alternative to ecstasy and speed. On the other hand, one can see that its basically condoned and thus seen as acceptable. Alcohol I drink personally, but I don't think its alcohol itself that is the problem but people abusing alcohol that is the problem.

Onto Cannabis. I think it should remain illegal, I have smoked it many times. I think it has to stay illegal not necessarily because its dangerous for your health or such issues. But because you can't be seen as accepting it. However, personal use should be decriminalised (I believe it could be but I am unsure) and the police should much rather concern themselves with the dealers and those growing the drug. As these people can often have other criminal activities going on. As for Pi well its horrible, it is illegal but it looks set to stay.

I did not mention speed and ecstasy simply because I wanted to focus on party pills and pi rather than those. Heroin has never really been a problem here since the late 1980s when a supply line was stopped. And to be honest, there doesn't seem to be that much use of cocaine here either.

Dugs can be bad, some worse than others. But most of the time, its not the drugs themselves but the people that choose to abuse them.

Revendusman
April 17th, 2008, 05:19 AM
Thats exactly my fipoke, some illegal drugs are less dangerous then, say, alcohol, yet alcohol is not only legal, but a staple in society. Someone who refused to drink alcohol would be OSTRACISED for crying out loud.

Hazuki
April 17th, 2008, 07:04 AM
Well, it depends how you are using it. For example, studies are showing if you drink wine, it helps your heart. But if you overabuse it and cause problems such as drunk driving, then you are in a major problem.

El Gofre
April 17th, 2008, 07:47 AM
Alcohol is, as far as drugs go, one of the less harmless ones. Drank in moderation (As Hazuki said), a single unit of wine a day is beneficial for your heart. Red wine specifically helps your liver, my family has a hereditary liver disfunction and my father and his father were both "prescribed" a glass of red wine a night. I am set to be tested for this in a few months. Likewise alcohol in large quantities will damage your body, because you are essential overdosing on alcohol. It's all about balance.
Illegal drugs, however, are illegal for a reason. Most of them have an addictive agent, so your body is going to have a higher concentration of it for most of the time. This means you are more exposed to its effects (Whether they are good or bad).

Avey
April 17th, 2008, 08:34 AM
I think it is quite aceptable.

You're not trolling hard enough.

I have the same views as Jaimes, to answer your question.

The Infinite Devil Machine
April 17th, 2008, 11:55 AM
The biggest and richest drug dealers in the world are the governments themselves. Cigarettes and Alcohol are exponentially more dangerous than drugs like Pot, which is practically harmless. Drugs like Heroin or Meth however, are simply unacceptable for anyone to use. So no, I don't condone drug use, I've seen people close to me have to pick up their lives and put them back together because of Alcohol, and I've had people even closer to me die because of Cigarettes.

Trace
April 17th, 2008, 12:05 PM
I don't take drugs...but I've known people who do...and they end up killing themselves. Some death itself, but...physically and mentally.
Alcohol and tobacco are two horrible examples. My grandpa drinks, and my mom used to smoke.
Honestly...they should just ban smoking. Alcohol should be legal still, just that people need more common sense, e.g. not drunk driving.

austin00081
April 17th, 2008, 03:01 PM
Drugs are always fun to just try.
Picking up the habit of becoming addicted is bad.

It honestly depends on the person. We are all different and you can't judge someone for doing something you don't condone.
I also know many people that smoke weed and are very smart, others, are idiots. But like I said, everyone's reactions and ways of handling drugs are different.

♣Gawain♣
April 17th, 2008, 03:49 PM
If you mean drugs that are harmfull for your health... It's never acceptable even if you tried it.

firepokemon
April 18th, 2008, 03:39 AM
Honestly...they should just ban smoking. Alcohol should be legal still, just that people need more common sense, e.g. not drunk driving.

I am slightly bias as I am a smoker and have been for years. I don't like smoking but I do. Indeed smoking is dangerous. But I really don't think people have a clue how dangerous banning tobacco would be.

If you think Cocaine, Heroine, Crystal Meth/Pi are huge illegal industries. Well smoking would be even bigger. You ban smoking and yes many would quit. But I am telling you now, that you would create a huge black market in countries where tobacco is bad. This would not only result in more organised crime, but many such as those on benefits (welfare and the like), or low incomes would be hurt by how expensive tobacco would become. These people are generally over featured in statistics of who smoke tobacco.

A ban on tobacco would by nature, automatically turn many people instantly into criminals. Thats not something one should wish to see. Organised crime would be vicious because they will have huge client bases because tobacco is that addictive.

I think the last poll in New Zealand taken over this issue found that around 50% wished to see a ban in smoking. So clearly one day we will go that way. As I assume many other countries will go that way. And clearly countries are restricting where people can smoke and constantly add taxes onto tobacco and are placing bigger warning labels and the likes.

But I do think governments will always think twice before ever banning the use of tobacco. And for those that would like to ban tobacco. That is clearly your choice. However, you might like to think about the consequences when tobacco is outlawed.

Stalin Malone
April 18th, 2008, 01:51 PM
I say we should legalize all drugs(and end the idiotic prescription-only requirements for non-antibiotic medicine(anti-biotics are a special case because of drug-resistant bacteria)) but retain the additional charges of doing crime while on drugs(use it to keep them in prison longer so they can't harm society). However, I'd go about legalization gradually and on a local level first to avoid mass social catastrophe.

Cassino
April 18th, 2008, 02:56 PM
A lot of drugs are originally created for medical use, then — like anything and everything devised by human minds — abused. Drugs themselves, I'd say, are fine. It's the people that abuse them that aren't.

Alcohol is a bit different (to me at least) in that it's been around for so long amongst human cultures across the world, taking it away would be like... something comparably dramatic.

NeoSmasher
April 18th, 2008, 03:37 PM
I think it's just wrong.

And I will resist taking it.

Stalin Malone
April 18th, 2008, 08:46 PM
I think it's just wrong.

And I will resist taking it.

Hey, man that's cool with me. You can have your lifestyle as long as I can have mine without interference. If you try dictating what kind of lifestyle I can live then I'm going to have a problem with you.

flight
April 18th, 2008, 08:50 PM
Alright guys, everyone has their own opinion, let's just respect that, shall we? D:

Anyway, I think drugs is just..bad. I mean, I know of a lot of people around my school who deal around drugs, but never seen them do it, but I have my suspicions anyhow.

It's not cool ;;

Stalin Malone
April 18th, 2008, 08:52 PM
Oh I do respect it, I merely have issues when they attempt to impose it on everyone else with the force of law then I disagree.

Amachi
April 18th, 2008, 11:34 PM
Considering that people under the influence of drugs are endangering themselves and can endanger bystanders, I'd say it's perfectly fair to restrict drug usage. None of it is safe, and so it shouldn't be used.

It's like with cigarettes - I don't want to have cancer pushed down my throat just cause some other people feel it's okay to smoke wherever, even if it's prohibited.

sims796
April 19th, 2008, 01:02 AM
Hippie bullshark aside, the government ha the responsiblity to the welfare of all it's citizens. That is the reason many drugs are illegal, and suicide itself is illegal. Just because we have the freedoms, doesn't mean we get to do what we want when we want. This goes to everyone saying "don't dictate my lifestyle". Messing up your body through needless drugs is something that must be hindered or stopped, like a cutting emo.

peirateis
April 19th, 2008, 06:37 AM
Being one whose experience with drugs has been far closer to home than anyone would appreciate, I have to say that I believe that anti-drug enforcement isn't nearly strong enough. My brother was addicted to meth a few years back. Those were the worst years of my life. Though it made me realize a lot of things about today's culture. You can't just 'talk' to your kids about drugs and expect them not to do it. If they want to, they will find a way to. Along that line, I can't tell you how many times my brother and his friends had been arrested for carrying + being under the influence of drugs. Each time, though, the crappy judicial system of this God-blessed country cut them loose with a 'warning'. Drives me mad.

I am also against alcohol because it's bad and it tastes crappy.
I'm not against cigarettes: 1. They smell fantastic, 2. They don't do crazy stuff to your head, 3. I don't smoke, but I know several people who do, so, whatever.

Zeikku™
April 19th, 2008, 07:07 AM
I used to be a cocaine and heroine addict, but society frowns upon that. I did it for a month every 2 hours for a month before I was in a coma and stayed in hospital for a month. Drug abuse is very stupid, I did it because people in my school convinced me to try. Never give in to pear pressure because you always have a choice.
I think the government still has a lot to do to reduce the number of drugs.
Drug abuse destroys lives.
SO DON'T DO IT!

Stalin Malone
April 19th, 2008, 07:10 AM
Drug prohibition has FAR more costs than allowing/regulating the drugs. Unless you see mass incarceration, inability to regulate content/purity of drugs, giving drugs a kewl forbidden cachet to attract youth to them, ruining urban areas, destroying latin america's economy, people being unable to get help for addition, perpetuation of racism as good things I see no reason why you'd support drug prohibition.

Jaimes
April 19th, 2008, 07:16 AM
Drug prohibition has FAR more costs than allowing/regulating the drugs...

And the benefits of allowing drugs are..?

sims796
April 19th, 2008, 07:19 AM
And the benefits of allowing drugs are..?

A lot more damned hippies crowding up my front stoop. Get a job!

peirateis
April 19th, 2008, 07:23 AM
That's right, Archon, just let everyone use what drugs they want whenever they want without any consequences whatsoever.

Mass incarcerations - for folks who use drugs, which would be a good thing. Look, drugs already have the forbidden fruit effect. Why, you ask? Because they are already illegal.

Also, if drugs were to be legalized, we would see a huge jump in crime. How many more people, then, would be able to get drugs legally, and more openly? And then how many would start turning to crime to pay for their addiction? The bottom line is that, in the long run, outlawing drugs would be incredibly good for society.

Jaimes
April 19th, 2008, 07:29 AM
And then how many would start turning to crime to pay for their addiction? The bottom line is that, in the long run, outlawing drugs would be incredibly good for society.

I'm sorry to say that archons concept of 'improving society' also involves mass murder of poor people and releasing rich serial killers and terrorists. [see CP thread] ¬_¬

Using drugs doesn't just affect one person. It can impact their families, their work and inspire the people who watch them do it or can be used as weapons (e.g spiked drinks). So saying "drugs should be legal because we can do what we want" is really an idiotic point.

Stalin Malone
April 19th, 2008, 10:04 AM
Ever thought that it's drug prohibition ruining people's lives and that keeping drugs illegal prevents people from going to get help?

Jaimes
April 19th, 2008, 10:29 AM
Ever thought that it's drug prohibition ruining people's lives and that keeping drugs illegal prevents people from going to get help?

No I don't think that prohibition of something dangerous is going to ruin people's life... if anything it's going to save lives... that's kind of obvious.

Ever thought that if drugs were legalized, more people would be needing help?


Try to actually put some thought into your posts next time.

Virtual Chatot
April 19th, 2008, 10:33 AM
Ever thought that it's drug prohibition ruining people's lives and that keeping drugs illegal prevents people from going to get help?
1. How does Drug Prohibition ruin people's lives?
2. People can go into rehab centers willingly without being forced to go. So how would making drugs legal encourage them anyways? That's alot like saying we should legalize Drunk Driving because it will encourage people to not do it.

Stalin Malone
April 19th, 2008, 11:28 AM
Adding to the felon population, keeping latin america poorer and more backwards than otherwise, wasting taxpayer money... the list goes on and on.

Virtual Chatot
April 19th, 2008, 11:40 AM
Adding to the felon population, keeping latin america poorer and more backwards than otherwise, wasting taxpayer money... the list goes on and on.

1. Adding to the felon population? More people will use drugs if they are legalized!
2. Latin America is poor because their governments are either greedy or do not have the resources to build up their economy.
3. How is keeping drugs illegal wasting taxpayer money?

Your so called causes can be caused by any number of things, and blaming them on drugs being illegal is just ignorant.

El Gofre
April 19th, 2008, 11:40 AM
You and your idiotic view of criminals and justice. An increased felon population=less criminals on the street. Legallising drugs would mmean more people trying it, getting addicted and therefore spending more, so explain to me how latin america benefits from it. The rest of my post sums up how it isnt a waste of taxpayer money. My family taxes so the government can use it to benefit me, if it takes away dangerour drugs and people then its money well spent.

EDIT: Heatran beat me to it.

heyj524
April 19th, 2008, 05:06 PM
Drugs are bad for you so don't abuse them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- sorry about the rule, im new here

Aegis
April 19th, 2008, 05:14 PM
Drugs are bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, so is bypassing the character limit and 4 word rule. All posts need to have at least 25 characters and four words, please make sure to abide by these rules.

Cosmic Tyrant
April 19th, 2008, 05:44 PM
If you want my opinion on the matter, I have this to say.

Not implying anything here, but if anybody decides to legalize any drug, the only one I'd reccomend is Marijuana. I apologize if I'm breaking a rule by talking about the drug in particular, but it's appropriate to the topic, so I personally don't see why I can't. Marijuana is already being used for medical reasons, and it's effects are way less severe than the other questionable drugs. Sure, too much can kill you, but let's be honest here. Too much of anything can kill you, so that's not a valid arguement. If Marijuana were to be legalized, it would have to be treated with the same care and sensativity as alchohol. But due to it's reputation, it's extremely unlikely for Marijuana to be legalized, let alone any other drug.

darkwithrobots
April 20th, 2008, 09:50 PM
Meh, I'm not really for hardcore drugs. I'll admit that I do smoke marijuana - but strictly for medical reasons. I have multiple sclerosis and I've tried every other pain killer and that was the other thing that actually helped for me. It doesn't affect me as a person, and I am not addicted to it. I don't have cravings to smoke and I only want to when the pain is intolerable. Some people may disagree with legalizing marijuana but if you were someone who had an extremely painful disease you'd probably think otherwise. Whether people decide to think of me differently because of it is their choice. I know it doesn't make me a bad person. It merely just helps with a problem that is extremely beyond my control.

This is just my two cents on the whole drug issue. The only thing I really would stand for/have a positive opinion about is marijuana. All the other drugs are just horrible in my opinion, but others may think differently.

bna_li
April 21st, 2008, 02:48 AM
Huh. The only things my friends do is weed. But I'm fine with that. I heard about shrooms and it seems that even those can be an educational experience if you know what you're doing.

This is my opinion in a nutshell. If you can grow it, it's OK.

Weed should be legalized.

Kishijoten
May 2nd, 2008, 07:04 PM
well my clas just had a dare program and we have a graducation and here is why you shouldn't do drugs it's dangerous and you could die early dont mean to scare you but it's true marijuanna and tabacco is pretty risky to try people gets killed easly every year like about 8,000,000 people die ever year because of drugs . so if i were you i wouldnt do drugs

Virtual Chatot
May 2nd, 2008, 07:09 PM
well my clas just had a dare program and we have a graducation and here is why you shouldn't do drugs it's dangerous and you could die early dont mean to scare you but it's true marijuanna and tabacco is pretty risky to try people gets killed easly every year like about 8,000,000 people die ever year because of drugs . so if i were you i wouldnt do drugs

Your estimates are way off, but your heart is in the right place.

Amoeba
May 3rd, 2008, 02:40 AM
I admit drugs can do a lot of harm - but it what you use and how you use it that can determine how much harm is caused.

Drug use will never go away - people will always find ways to get their hands on it. But it would help if people were educated... and kept it to themselves.

There are some drugs that, frankly, the majority of the population would never benefit from. How many of you have heard of someone that uses herion carefully and moderately? Not many. Most will become biologically hooked and begin a downward spiral to degradation. Personally, I knew someone who did tell me they'd had some that night, but just as a once in a while kind of thing. They didn't get back off it, sadly.

Some drugs, however, should become available in a safer way, cannabis for example, while not 100% safe, has no long term harm when used safely and moderately (and won't make most people crazy like the statistic say - that's only a small portion of the population who are prone to it). It's not only enjoyable for casual users - but it can offer an alternative to medicines that have some very nasty side-effects. It has many powerful medical properties to subdue symptoms of illness with relatively mild side-effects. If it were regulated in the same way as alcohol, and user kept the smoke to themselves like with tobacco, not forcing it uppon others - how is that not acceptable?

I disagree with tobacco and cannabis smokers who are inconsiderate of other people around them. People should be able to choose whether they breathe in the smoke or not. How do you escape it though when people are puffing away round every corner? Well, one benefit did arise from it - I can now hold my breath while running and walking for lengths of time, due to avoiding second hand smoke - but not everyone is able to hold their breath 40%+ the time they spend outside! Why should they have to anyway?

Drug/drink driving really angers me. If you're going to drink/do drugs... don't get behind the wheel of a car until you're sober. Please.

There are some drugs I don't have an opinion on - simply I don't know enough about them, and know there are some people who can cope wih moderate use on them, without hurting anyone else, and an equal number who cannot use them without trouble. It's a case of... should all users be being punished for the faults of some?

Hat?
May 3rd, 2008, 04:22 AM
I think Cannabis should be legal to have/use as it's not physically addictive, helps people with illnesses etc.

Smoking tobacco and drinking alcohol is far more physically damaging, though in different ways. I think they should both be legal, but some smokers need to smoke away from non-smokers and some alcohol drinkers also need to make sure it doesn't become anyone elses problem, drink-driving etc.

LipstickTraces
May 20th, 2008, 12:50 PM
ill reply to this but chances are somebodies got this same opinion and view. everything is worth trying once, but its up to you what you choose to do, dependant on it being illegal or not. if you want to go down that path, then you must be willing to understand the concequences and that your actions could get you into a lot of trouble. those who enjoy taking drugs illegally without harming others in the process i have no problem with. but these days so many things have been labelled as negative, its hard enough to decide which is actually worth it. and without trying things, life gets boring. just do what you enjoy, try what you like, but i encourage it to be entirley sensible and done with everything in mind.

personally i prefer to do things legally. i have tried a few things, and have come to the desicion that they are not for me, and that i can live without them. but as for alcohol, i dont mind a dabble every now and then. and i know when to stop, which i always stand by no matter who tries to pressure me and whatnot, i make my own desicions. so yeah. drink casually, dont be getting caught by the parents when you stumble in early hours not quite sober yall! ;) haha

Storm-DC
May 20th, 2008, 01:12 PM
im dutch, tried most of them. nothing beats sex.

I think Cannabis should be legal to have/use as it's not physically addictive, helps people with illnesses etc.

Smoking tobacco and drinking alcohol is far more physically damaging, though in different ways. I think they should both be legal, but some smokers need to smoke away from non-smokers and some alcohol drinkers also need to make sure it doesn't become anyone elses problem, drink-driving etc.

bullshit, cannabis makes your mind full of holes. its terrible for your memory for example.

txteclipse
May 21st, 2008, 11:31 PM
My mother works with people that have destroyed their lives with drugs. They are messed up to the extreme. Here's a great spoilered example (slightly graphic...don't say I didn't warn you).

My mom was sent to investigate the case of a man that was in jail for gouging his roomate's eyes out and then literally eating his face. There were still bits of flesh in the man's teeth when he was arrested. He even said he was afraid of the people in jail with him, but when asked if they might be afraid of him, he said he couldn't see a reason why they would be. So why did he eat the guy's face? Drugs made him crazy, and if I remember correctly he was tripping on ecstasy at the time.

Drug creation and use is illegal for a reason. Number one: they kill brain cells. Number two: they can make you paranoid, violent, aggressive, depressed, or a combination of these and others. Number three, you're liable to harm yourself or others if you use them, as they impair your judgement and mess up your mind. Number four, the chemicals they contain can harm you physically as well as mentally (i.e. rot your teeth/give you lung and mouth cancer, and a lot of other nasty stuff).

So do I support drug use? Not in the least. Do I support legalizing drug use? Heck no.

Storm-DC
May 22nd, 2008, 03:08 AM
to really prevent addicts from being addicted you better invest in work, health care and education.

Eureka1
May 22nd, 2008, 03:10 AM
I don't use drugs, feels the need to use drugs, want to use drugs but personally, don't really care about drug use.

If people want to do that kind of thing then that's fine.

fade101
May 22nd, 2008, 03:14 AM
Ok... uhh before i give my opinion, is the guy who created this thread booted out because of this thread??

I think drugs should only be used for medical purposes...
And caffeine is good (coke), drugs are bad mmmkay..... (other than caffeine)

El Gofre
May 22nd, 2008, 04:23 AM
He was kicked out for other behaviour. Check his posts for obvious reasons.

Bug Catcher Nick
May 22nd, 2008, 10:14 AM
Tough one. Personally I'm dead against it, I even feel uneasy taking legal prescribed drugs. I just don't trust what it does to my body. However my girlfriend takes a few things now and then, I know she's a sensible girl, would just feel much safer if she didn't.

Who am I to say what's wrong or right?

Ninetales
May 23rd, 2008, 03:22 AM
On what other people have said here...

-Some of you have said that legalising all drugs will mean a jump in crime. Actually, I would see little or no change. When something is illegal, only those who are brave enough to go after the contraband item have a chance at obtaining it--and often times those are the people who also obtain money through theft, prostitution, etc. But once it's declared legal, well, the criminals who had the sole access to it before might still practice their old ways of obtaining it and/or the money for it. But the commonfolk, those who fear prosecution, will have legal access to it, and to obtain the money for it, they'll just do whatever they do to obtain money for any other purpose. (An ounce of meth, say, isn't nearly as expensive as a new computer.) Legalising a drug won't affect the way people obtain the money to pay for it.

Points I'd like to add:

-If all drugs are made legal, there should be more education and warnings about their effects present in the world. That would help prevent an increase in spreading of a drug's use. There does in fact seem to be a connection between the number of people doing a drug and the effects known about it. Back when the tobacco industry started, for example, very few people knew about the harmful side effects of tobacco, and lots and lots of people smoked it (especially in movies and such). Then people started to quit or not start when the side effects were made (sort of) clear. There will always be the percentage of people who decide to brave their way into the bad effects and focus on the good, but an increase in awareness of the side effects would certainly help the willy-nilly spread of these drugs if they all become legal.

-For all you Americans out there, keep the eighteenth amendment in mind when thinking about what will happen if a drug is outlawed. Basically that was a law which outlawed the consumption of alcohol--by anyone. The result was a decade or so of smuggling and bootlegging of alcohol, and you wouldn't believe the number of code words used by people for bars or "speakeasies", any place that serves alcohol. In other words, consumption of alcohol didn't change that dramatically. Because of that result, the amendment was repealed later on, so now of course alcohol is legal.

The point is, making a drug illegal, especially a commonly used one, will not cause a dramatic decrease in its consumption. When something's made illegal, the rate of consumption droppage depends on how badly people want it. This rate is especially low in drugs, which commonly have an addictive nature.

And--well, you can't stop any sort of illegal activity altogether, period. There are always us with the daring in our hearts, those who seek thrill in that which is secret and risky. We Criminals will always be abundant on the face of the planet, and a police force is futile in their idealistic attempt to imprison all of us. Some of us are just too clever and/or lucky for that type of conviction, and there are just too many of us. Ha!

And, well, if ranting is a crime, I'd be getting five years in prison right about now. *shuts up*