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Walrein
April 18th, 2008, 09:57 AM
Would you consider me as white even thought Jewish? Would you oppose me coming into your lands?

Tokuka
April 18th, 2008, 09:59 AM
As long as you came to my country, and pulled your own weight, paid your taxes and generally contributed to society I couldn't care less what colour or creed you are!

El Gofre
April 18th, 2008, 10:03 AM
That's a stupid question tbh. White is a skin colour, not a religion. That's what i dislike about religion, it segregates people more than it unifies.

But immigrationwise, Im not a fan. Anyone can move anywhere in the EU and countries end up over-populated ect. I personally think you should be able to at least speak a country's language before moving there.
But that's my opinion, i live in a very diverse area of the uk and that's fine with me, but i dislike how many of my friends and their parents cannot get work because foreigners undercut them. But yeah, as long as you contribute I dont care all that much.

Stalin Malone
April 18th, 2008, 01:47 PM
I have no problem with immigrants providing they integrate into the main society. By this I mean they follow the laws, speak the main language well enough to be understood and comply with social norms(accepting secular western governments).

Professor Valley
April 19th, 2008, 09:07 AM
AS long as you just didn't mooch off hard workers, that's fine.

Skipper
April 20th, 2008, 07:17 AM
As long as you came to my country, and pulled your own weight, paid your taxes and generally contributed to society I couldn't care less what colour or creed you are!

Too bad the current residents don't pull their weight either. =O

Virtual Chatot
April 20th, 2008, 07:44 AM
Too bad the current residents don't pull their weight either. =O

That statement has more truth to it than you realize -.-

I have absolutely no problem with Immigration, but I do have a problem with illegal immigration. If your first experience in my country is breaking a law, there is a problem.

heyj524
April 20th, 2008, 08:24 AM
i also feel that immigration is fine as long as it's not illegal

Amoeba
April 24th, 2008, 03:49 AM
I'm not happy with the way its going currently.

It's mixed where I am - many legal immigrants end up tossed back to wherever they came from, which could be back to severe poverty. While oddly illegal immigrants are given free houses, free cars, money, etc. I don't know the reasons behind this but that's what's currently going on.

Not only that, but now employers have a quota to meet which means that a particular percentage of their employees must be of non-Brittish nationality. So it doesn't matter if that native Brittish person is better suited for the job than that Polish person - if the employee has a quota to meet they'll employ the Polish person first.

There aren't enough jobs to go around for everyone at this rate, and something needs to be done about it. However, speaking out against it is seen as racist for some reason. And figures seem to claim that there are plenty of jobs to go around, from my experience this simply is not the case.

My feelings are mixed - on one side some of the immigrants are only looking for a better life for their family. On the other hand many of them are taking all the jobs that students used to take. And the older I get without ever having had a job, even though I try very hard to get one, the less likely I'll ever have one. I'm certainly not alone either.

Bug Catcher Nick
April 24th, 2008, 05:58 AM
Immigration is a wonderful thing. In Peterborough we have huge Polish, Lithuanian, Portuguese, and Italian communities. They are all very hard working, and contribute hugely to our economy. Less culd be said about the lazy English living in our City.

While oddly illegal immigrants are given free houses, free cars, money, etc. I don't know the reasons behind this but that's what's currently going on.

Not only that, but now employers have a quota to meet which means that a particular percentage of their employees must be of non-Brittish nationality. So it doesn't matter if that native Brittish person is better suited for the job than that Polish person - if the employee has a quota to meet they'll employ the Polish person first.

There aren't enough jobs to go around for everyone at this rate, and something needs to be done about it. However, speaking out against it is seen as racist for some reason. And figures seem to claim that there are plenty of jobs to go around, from my experience this simply is not the case.

Most of that is completely made up and not true, what's your source? the BNP?

For a start the government have no record of "illegal immigrants", hence the reason that they are 'illegal'. Therefore they cannot receive free money/house/cars. Even legal immigrants don't get work permits or benefits for a very long time.

Amoeba
April 24th, 2008, 09:19 AM
Most of that is completely made up and not true, what's your source? the BNP?

For a start the government have no record of "illegal immigrants", hence the reason that they are 'illegal'. Therefore they cannot receive free money/house/cars. Even legal immigrants don't get work permits or benefits for a very long time.

Actually I know some personally. :/ They appealed about their situation and got a free allowance, a council home and one of their mum's got a car for her job. And no, I don't listen to a thing the BNP says, thanks for the accusation. (heck I don't even know what they say)

Don't forget that the situation in Scotland is often different from the situation in England.

And where I am most workers in low paid jobs are not Brittish.

Bug Catcher Nick
April 24th, 2008, 12:50 PM
Actually I know some personally. :/ They appealed about their situation and got a free allowance, a council home and one of their mum's got a car for her job. And no, I don't listen to a thing the BNP says, thanks for the accusation. (heck I don't even know what they say)

Don't forget that the situation in Scotland is often different from the situation in England.

And where I am most workers in low paid jobs are not Brittish.

Illiegal immigrants cannot get jobs, unless they are illegal jobs. There is now way that they can get government handouts, or a house because they are illegal immigrants and therefore not on the system.

Are you getting confused with refugees and Asylum seekers? or indeed regular immigrants?

I never accused you of anything, merely stating that your statements were very similar to the sort of rubbish that certain political parties come up with to try and cause race wars in our country.

Amoeba
April 25th, 2008, 12:32 AM
Illiegal immigrants cannot get jobs, unless they are illegal jobs. There is now way that they can get government handouts, or a house because they are illegal immigrants and therefore not on the system.

Are you getting confused with refugees and Asylum seekers? or indeed regular immigrants?

I never accused you of anything, merely stating that your statements were very similar to the sort of rubbish that certain political parties come up with to try and cause race wars in our country.

I don't really know, perhaps they came here illegaly and then sook asylum. But the buy I know from the Phillipines said he and his family used a fake passports over there but got caught when he got here.

Admittedly I'm suprised he never got caught over there. But he's a cosy living student now.

All my statements come purely from personal experience, and I probably should have used the word 'some' rather than just saying it outright, as I'm sure it's not the same in all cases. (I actually always do, but this time it got missed out pssibly because I'm ill) I'm sorry if what I said sounded like I was against other racial backgrounds, I'm most definately not, but I try very hard to get a job and it angers me that I can't get one yet most people behind tills or stacking shelves struggle to speak decent English. It's nothing against them, just this cruddy system that leaves me out of any work experience.

Bug Catcher Nick
April 25th, 2008, 01:57 PM
You have to be granted asylum to get a job, pay out, housing etc so it must have been granted. Fair play to them, it's incredibly hard to prove your life was in danger where you escaped from.

To stay in the country you also have to prove that you will be of use to the country (usually nurses, doctors, teachers etc).