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Neosplash
May 17th, 2008, 05:58 PM
Do they? Was the whole pokemon sitting there saying their names over and over made up by the Anime/Manga? I always thought that is sounded stupid.

Acrutheo
May 17th, 2008, 06:21 PM
There are etymologies evident in their names. So, if it were true that they did, in the pokemon world, it must mean that the names of pokemon were quite influential on the human languages. The alternative is ascribing it to mere coincidence, which is immensely unlikely.

So, unless human languages evolved from pokemon speech, I'd say no, they don't.

Neosplash
May 17th, 2008, 08:38 PM
There are etymologies evident in their names. So, if it were true that they did, in the pokemon world, it must mean that the names of pokemon were quite influential on the human languages. The alternative is ascribing it to mere coincidence, which is immensely unlikely.

So, unless human languages evolved from pokemon speech, I'd say no, they don't.

I see what you're saying.
Wasn't it said (somewhere) that the universe time and all matter were made by a Pokemon? I don't really see shaping a language to be much harder then creating the things that use the languages.

Motsuko Live
May 18th, 2008, 02:16 AM
Or, the most reasonable solution, when Pokemon were first discovered by whoever (in the Pokemon world, of course), that person just named each one after what the Pokemon said.

Example; Say I discover a Metapod. A never before seen Pokemon :) (pretend)
I'd hear it say "METAPOOD", and I'd obviously consider naming it Metapod.

But, being my greedy and selfish self, I'd probably name it Motsuko-Mon.. xD

Toblerone
May 18th, 2008, 03:04 AM
Yep, absolutely correct. But what about Meowth, from Team Rocket? He speaks.. what's the deal with that? Maybe Meowth was beside the Legendaries whilst they were "creating the universe", and that's why we speak our language, because of Meowth?

Mitchman
May 18th, 2008, 03:14 AM
No meowth learned to speak and walk like that out of love. That was a touching episode tell you the truth.

Toblerone
May 18th, 2008, 03:18 AM
Never seen that episode.. anyway, aren't there "muted" Pokémon? As in, they don't say their names, just roar and shout? If there were a few, how would we (as in, us in the Pokémon universe) think up of a name for the Pokémon?

Mitchman
May 18th, 2008, 03:23 AM
There looks or the way the local folk describe them. I mean look at tigers the dont go tigraaaaaawr. No they go raawr plainly.Its the same for pokemon I think.

raging lion
May 18th, 2008, 03:25 AM
Never seen that episode.. anyway, aren't there "muted" Pokémon? As in, they don't say their names, just roar and shout? If there were a few, how would we (as in, us in the Pokémon universe) think up of a name for the Pokémon?
Ya you are right. Dragonite and Lapras etc keeps shouting, Legendary beast keep raoring (I think so) etc etc.

Toblerone
May 18th, 2008, 03:32 AM
But i'm sure some of those Pokémon has a Japanese meaning behind their names. Also, Dragonite, for instance, the pre-evolution forms of it starts with "Dra" and, seeing as they are Dragon types, we have DRAGONair and DRAGONite. Another example is Charizard ("Char"). So the "people of the Pokémon universe" Probably made their names like that.

Cassino
May 18th, 2008, 04:16 AM
Pokemon speaking by saying their names over and over is simply a way for them to talk without the audience knowing what they are saying unless some human (or TR's Meowth) happens to repeat it aloud. Their names in Japan (and thus what they say) are different too, so it's all a bit confusing when you think about it...

No meowth learned to speak and walk like that out of love. That was a touching episode tell you the truth.
I remember that one. :D Makes me wonder why other Pokemon are too retarded to learn speech, since they obviously have the capacity for it more often than not. o_O


Mere plot devices, I tell ye.

Tabatha
May 19th, 2008, 09:33 PM
Pokemon speaking by saying their names over and over is simply a way for them to talk without the audience knowing what they are saying unless some human (or TR's Meowth) happens to repeat it aloud. Their names in Japan (and thus what they say) are different too, so it's all a bit confusing when you think about it...


I remember that one. :D Makes me wonder why other Pokemon are too retarded to learn speech, since they obviously have the capacity for it more often than not. o_O


Mere plot devices, I tell ye.

I remember that meowth episode too yes quite touching, but yeah I always wondered why none of the other pokemon learned to speak too...very odd....

4chan
May 22nd, 2008, 07:51 AM
Why can some tlak and not others?

GunSaberSeraph
May 22nd, 2008, 08:12 AM
I remember in the Orange Islands saga, there was an episode where Meowth explains that in the process of learning human speech, he lost the ability to gain experience in battle.

*Firestar*
May 22nd, 2008, 09:28 AM
Pokemon speaking by saying their names over and over is simply a way for them to talk without the audience knowing what they are saying unless some human (or TR's Meowth) happens to repeat it aloud. Their names in Japan (and thus what they say) are different too, so it's all a bit confusing when you think about it...


I remember that one. :D Makes me wonder why other Pokemon are too retarded to learn speech, since they obviously have the capacity for it more often than not. o_O


Mere plot devices, I tell ye.

I also remember it and it reall ytouched me in a way I hadn't felt before.
Totaly off topic but I cried in the first movie when Ash was turned to stone and the other pokemon started crying and also in Pokemon4ever When Celebi died because of the masked merauder. That is how sensitive I am when watching Pokemon movies and the shows.

EviladeBlazingDemon
May 23rd, 2008, 08:42 AM
I find it hard to believe that the one word a pokemon knows happens to be a pun on two words to do with that pokemon. Like Charmander. Charcoal(or Char which i think is jap for fire) and (Sala)Mander.
CharcoalSalamander.

*Firestar*
May 23rd, 2008, 11:17 AM
I think they named the Pokemon by what they say like; Celebi says "Celebiiii" when excited etc.

Plasmaniac
May 23rd, 2008, 09:35 PM
I guess the most logical reason would be that speech was formed of pokemon sounds... But I'd rather prefer if they just made more animal-like noises... So I hope the series-manga made that up.