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Animahngo
June 4th, 2008, 04:17 PM
What Do you think it is? I'm actually doing some calculations to find out exactly which type is 'the best' type (yeah, I'm doing the dual types, as well, UGH).

But in the mean time, which do you think is the best pokemon type (including dual types) ?

xiraiya
June 4th, 2008, 04:28 PM
The ultimate type I imagine would be Dragon/Ice because, correct me if I'm wrong but that would mean nothing would be "super effective" against that.

Since Dragon is only weak to ice or Dragon, so ice would stop dragon being super effective and even though Ice is weak to fire I don't think it would enable "super effective" since dragon would probably counter act it I suppose another Ice/Dragon would be super effective against it but that's all.

But no Pokemon with that type as far as I know exists yet.

ClassicRockFan
June 4th, 2008, 04:37 PM
Yeah, but Ice is weak to Rock, Fighting, and Steel, causing the Dragon/Ice to have a weakness
But I would think that a Fighting/Flying pokemon might be handy in some situations.

xiraiya
June 4th, 2008, 04:41 PM
True, but doesn't dual type stop some "super effective" weaknesses of each type?.
I'd like to see a Fire/Water or Grass/Fire just to see how it would battle.

BattleBeastEXP
June 4th, 2008, 04:42 PM
I guess it would be Ghost and Dark, since it does not have any weakness'. Since that is a real type unlike the previous (Dragon-Ice) stated, which does not yet exist.

BREAKINGBEN
June 4th, 2008, 04:45 PM
Fighting/Flying is easily taken down with Psychic or Electric... but still, one less weakness than Dragon/Ice.

Ghost/Dark is the 'strongest' type if you look at the type chart. It has absolutely no weaknesses and three types are ineffective against it (Psychic, Normal, Fighting). It is followed closely by Water/Dragon which only has one weakness (Dragon).

If you use that theory, then technically, Sableye and Palkia are truly the "stongest" Pokemon... type wise.

BattleBeastEXP
June 4th, 2008, 04:49 PM
Fighting/Flying is easily taken down with Psychic or Electric... but still, one less weakness than Dragon/Ice.

Ghost/Dark is the 'strongest' type if you look at the type chart. It has absolutely no weaknesses and three types are ineffective against it (Psychic, Normal, Fighting). It is followed closely by Water/Dragon which only has one weakness (Dragon).

If you use that theory, then technically, Sableye and Palkia are truly the "stongest" Pokemon... type wise.

You forgot Spiritomb, which also has the types 'Ghost-Dark' and has no weaknesses, I would consider Spritomb much, much better then Sableye (from a competitive angle).

xiraiya
June 4th, 2008, 04:51 PM
Ghost/Dark is the 'strongest' type if you look at the type chart. It has absolutely no weaknesses and three types are ineffective against it (Psychic, Normal, Fighting).

I wonder, if a machamp or something uses "foresight" what will happen next turn? wouldn't that be super effective since Dark is weak to fighting and foresight enabling you to hit ghosts.

BREAKINGBEN
June 4th, 2008, 04:55 PM
Eh, too many possibilities. If someone has that criteria and wants to try it out and give us an answer, be my guest, it might actually help a lot. (I might do it in a while :D).

Whoops, completely forgot about Spiritomb. Yeah, competitive wise he would be a much better choice than Sableye... with the stats and all that...

But yeah, if anyone else has some weird scenarios... feel free to submit them. I might get around to doing some of them and we can finally answer the question of "Which type is the strongest?".

Kayke™
June 4th, 2008, 05:00 PM
If you use that theory, then technically, Sableye and Palkia are truly the "stongest" Pokemon... type wise.

Can't forget Kingdra. Cause ya know... he's actually... well, legal. And water/dragon is fantastic typing, prolly the best out there that can actually take SE damage unlike Spiritomb and Sableye.

xiraiya
June 4th, 2008, 05:01 PM
I'm going to have a look into all the types as well and see what type existing & non existing is the best, I think we'll find no combination will be the best, I'm still curious though.

BREAKINGBEN
June 4th, 2008, 05:03 PM
I guess I'll look through all of the Water/Dragon and Ghost/Dark types and list them here... just so I don't mess up again >:O! Then we can debate on which is best type and competitive wise (since... yeah... Palkia being uber and whatnot..).

Ghost/Dark:
Sableye
Spiritomb

Water/Dragon:
Palkia
Kingdra

Animahngo
June 4th, 2008, 05:10 PM
These calcs are going to take a while, guys. Just so you know. You might have to check back tomorrow for my exact statistics. :P

BREAKINGBEN
June 4th, 2008, 05:15 PM
You can just check type charts on Serebii or Psy Pokes ya know :D! Unless... you're doing something totally different...

Animahngo
June 4th, 2008, 05:19 PM
Something totally different xD

I made myself a formula just for fun. I'm plugging in the numbers xD

This is ghost to take a while. There is like five values I need to find for each type 0___0

:P

itachi143
June 4th, 2008, 05:20 PM
for me its ghost-dark thats the best combination

Ooka
June 4th, 2008, 05:53 PM
Eh, I think the best combo would be Ghost/Normal, even though it's weak to Dark it would be able to counter Gengar perfectly.

StrickeN
June 4th, 2008, 06:01 PM
No not really, Gengar has a very interesting move list and probably could still OHKO it

BREAKINGBEN
June 4th, 2008, 06:05 PM
I wonder, if a machamp or something uses "foresight" what will happen next turn? wouldn't that be super effective since Dark is weak to fighting and foresight enabling you to hit ghosts.

Going back to this thing. I decided to catch a Machop and train it to level 22 (on Sapphire) so it could learn Foresight. I then went on to face my Emerald game, which has Sableye (the Ghost/Dark) to see if this would work... here's what I got:

Ryan wants to battle!

Go! Subject A! (Machop)

Ryan sent out Sableye!

For Sableye used scratch!

A critical hit!

Subject A used Foresight! Subject A identified Sableye!

Foe Sableye used scratch!

A critical hit!

Subject A used Karate Chop!

Super Effective!

Foe Sableye used Night Shade!

Subject A fainted!

Player lost against Ryan!

In conclusion, when a fighting Pokemon, or any Pokemon using Foresight or Oder Sleuth can attack Ghost types AND the fighting move WILL be super effective.

So that gives Ghost/Dark its only weakness so far.

GeneralGuy
June 4th, 2008, 06:05 PM
No not really, Gengar has a very interesting move list and probably could still OHKO it
It is very unlikely for a competitive Gengar set to have Dark Pulse since Shadow Ball has the same coverage and gets STAB. :/

The Bringer!
June 4th, 2008, 06:11 PM
It is very unlikely for a competitive Gengar set to have Dark Pulse since Shadow Ball has the same coverage and gets STAB. :/

It still has thunderbolt to hit it with though. I don't think it's as common but it could also use sludge bomb for stab and stuff.

Magmortified
June 4th, 2008, 07:50 PM
I is saddest that everybody is assuming that the supposed best type has to be defensive in nature. C'mon, folks, there's things to be said for offensive typing.

As long as we're thinking up possible dual-typing, I wanna put in something for the idea of Dragon/Fire, which'd be mean with fair enough stats. STAB on a type combination that's really only resisted by Heatran, and depending how the stats'd be arranged, a Ground move'd take care of that. Specs Overheat + Draco Meteor. =O

xiraiya
June 4th, 2008, 08:24 PM
I is saddest that everybody is assuming that the supposed best type has to be defensive in nature. C'mon, folks, there's things to be said for offensive typing.

As long as we're thinking up possible dual-typing, I wanna put in something for the idea of Dragon/Fire, which'd be mean with fair enough stats. STAB on a type combination that's really only resisted by Heatran, and depending how the stats'd be arranged, a Ground move'd take care of that. Specs Overheat + Draco Meteor. =O

I always felt Charizard should have been Fire/Dragon since Lance for example had one or two...

I was only speculating about Machop's foresight being "Super Effective" since people worked out regardless of the "dragon" part of my Ice/Dragon type, Fire would still send it to hell with a Super Effective hit.

So I figured using those rules, a fighting type should hit super Effective against Sableye IF you could find a way to hit the damn thing, which where trusty Foresight comes in.

I wonder how Ghost/Fighting would go haha, normal types Ultimate nightmare.


In the end, I'm starting to realize dual types while learning a much wider range of moves, also get more weaknesses in general.

Archeopterix
June 4th, 2008, 09:37 PM
Probably water type, it's all around versatile. If we were talking about RBY, I'd say psychic, but things have changed since then. Water is good offensively and defensively though, and can dual with many other types to gain immunities from weaknesses.

Mystery2009
June 5th, 2008, 12:03 AM
my fav real type would have to be water/dragon as it only has one weakness and provides one of the bulkiest types with perhaps the most lethal types in a magical union. and it can still be taken down(....yes i mean kingdra)

Atomic Sharks
June 5th, 2008, 05:42 AM
if a pokemon was i type i would think ??? would be the best

xiraiya
June 5th, 2008, 06:44 AM
if a pokemon was i type i would think ??? would be the best

I don't understand what you mean, I'm guessing you are trying to say "???" is the best? well it's not an actual type so I don't think it counts.

Madara Uchiha
June 5th, 2008, 06:46 AM
its a ghost dark they have no weakness

Forci Stikane
June 5th, 2008, 07:18 AM
Defensively, the best (existing) typing would have to be Ghost/Dark. Nobody really uses Foresight or Odor Sleuth competitively, so that weakness of the typing is rather irrelevant.

if a pokemon was i type i would think ??? would be the best

It could just as easily have a weakness to everything else, which would make it the worst type.

LethalTexture
June 5th, 2008, 08:06 AM
If you're faced with a Wonder/Spiritomb, a Miltank or Kangaskhan w/Scrappy and Brick Break is your friend. 8D

As for offencive typings, I've always wondered how a Psychic/Dark would fare. 4x Weak to bug is a worry though.

Forci Stikane
June 5th, 2008, 08:32 AM
If you're faced with a Wonder/Spiritomb, a Miltank or Kangaskhan w/Scrappy and Brick Break is your friend. 8D

Ah, yes, I had forgotten about that. Still, Scrappy is only available to a specific niche of used Pokemon.

Abra_kadabra
June 5th, 2008, 01:53 PM
i think the best type is normal... cause think of wide moveset most moves are normal so huge stab thing plus their's "gimick" pokemon like castfourm and kelckeon that can change type.

Kit-Tsukasa
June 5th, 2008, 02:05 PM
Fighting/Flying is easily taken down with Psychic or Electric... but still, one less weakness than Dragon/Ice.

Ghost/Dark is the 'strongest' type if you look at the type chart. It has absolutely no weaknesses and three types are ineffective against it (Psychic, Normal, Fighting). It is followed closely by Water/Dragon which only has one weakness (Dragon).

If you use that theory, then technically, Sableye and Palkia are truly the "stongest" Pokemon... type wise.

In addition to Spiritomb, you also forgot Kingdra who have the same types as Sableye and Palkia respectively.

Some people often forget however, that only Ghost and Dark dual type is the only one with no weakness. I was actually thinking about this last night strangely enough. Dragon with any type is bad because itself is its own weakness. The only type that resists Dragon is Steel, but that leaves it prone to Ground and Fighting moves both of which Dragon doesn't resist.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
June 5th, 2008, 02:13 PM
I also agree that the best types overall is Ghost/Dark because of it not having any weakness which it has a high advantage


:t354:TG

Dark Banette
June 5th, 2008, 03:28 PM
Ghost/Dark does have advatages, making it most likely the best type. But in some cases Normal is also a nice type to have. It isn't week against much, but the only weakness it has is Fighting. Also, not being able to strike at Ghost type Pokemon is a major disadvatage. So Ghost/Dark may be the best type, but there aren't a lot of those types around.

Animahngo
June 5th, 2008, 03:31 PM
Now before I can figure which is best, I need to know something for my formula.

Does having fewer weaknesses give more advantage in a fight?
Or is having more resistances more helpful?

xiraiya
June 5th, 2008, 03:34 PM
I'm curious to see how Normal/ghost would go, it's a bizarre dual type but I wonder what could possibly be a weakness for it.

I thought of a Ghost/Fighting too, but later realized psychic would murder it.

Forci Stikane
June 5th, 2008, 03:36 PM
I'm curious to see how Normal/ghost would go, it's a bizarre dual type but I wonder what could possibly be a weakness for it.


Dark-type moves pop into mind.

Kit-Tsukasa
June 5th, 2008, 03:39 PM
Ghost/Dark does have advatages, making it most likely the best type. But in some cases Normal is also a nice type to have. It isn't week against much, but the only weakness it has is Fighting. Also, not being able to strike at Ghost type Pokemon is a major disadvatage. So Ghost/Dark may be the best type, but there aren't a lot of those types around.

Only two of them and none are really that impressive. Sableye is just pathetic compared to Spiritomb, but Spiritomb itself is really not that great either. It has only slightly better defenses, but really can't be a threatening powerhouse in my opinion.


I'm curious to see how Normal/ghost would go, it's a bizarre dual type but I wonder what could possibly be a weakness for it.

I thought of a Ghost/Fighting too, but later realized psychic would murder it.

Normal/Ghost: see above
Ghost/Fighting: Ghost, Psychic, Flying. Nuff said

Water and Dragon is the only other good type, but it's really irritating how Dragon is the best move type in the game, yet the hardest to defend if that's the pokemon's type since it's weak against itself.

Amp
June 5th, 2008, 06:10 PM
You guys are forgetting that grass/rock would have few weaknesses. The only ones I can think of are ice and poison, which isn't bad. No one uses Poison, and Ice weaknesses haven't stopped things in the past (garchomp, anyone?)

Magmortified
June 5th, 2008, 06:42 PM
Don't forget Fighting. Hooray for Close Combat?

Blazekick doom
June 5th, 2008, 06:56 PM
Well in my opinion the best pokemon are the Legendary pokemon. Heck the legendary pokemon are more powerful than regular pokemon.

xiraiya
June 5th, 2008, 07:14 PM
Well in my opinion the best pokemon are the Legendary pokemon. Heck the legendary pokemon are more powerful than regular pokemon.

That has nothing to do with types, plus A well trained normal pokemon could slaughter a Legendary any day.

Remember Rayquaza? Dragon/Flying Blizzard, or ice beam is his worst enemy.

BREAKINGBEN
June 5th, 2008, 07:15 PM
And yet, legendaries are not a type...

Hmm, I would say more "Not very effectives" are better than "Not effective" simply because there's more of the former... but if you had a rough conversion chart (that I just made up)... 3-4 NVE = 1 NE.






Oh, and 400th Post!

Animahngo
June 5th, 2008, 07:36 PM
Like would you rather have a poke that has no 'weaknesses' but takes x1 damage in everything, or a poke that has some weaknesses, but takes 1/2 damage in a bunch of things?

BREAKINGBEN
June 5th, 2008, 07:42 PM
Uhm, I think some weaknesses and 1/2 damage, because any weakness can be easily countered with a good move or two.

Animahngo
June 5th, 2008, 07:48 PM
Alright. In that case I am confident in my formula!

I'm a little behind though. so I'm not done. So far steel and fire steel seem to be the best (but I still have a ways to go :P)

Magmortified
June 6th, 2008, 08:59 AM
Does having fewer weaknesses give more advantage in a fight?
Or is having more resistances more helpful?

Would not impressive STAB coverage also be helpful?

I don't get how defensive ability is all that's being figured into when the "best" type is supposedly determined. Offense is as much a part of the game as defense, yet we seem to be focusing on only one part - unless that was the intention, though I don't recall it being implicitly stated. Getting a 1.5x boost on certain moves is pretty dang significant, and having two STABs that cover each other is excellent in a generation that already provides so many ways to boost your offenses (Life Orb, Nasty Plot, etc.)

I guess it'd be harder to mathematically calculate with that involved, though. Unless it were to be split into Best Offensive Typing, and Best Defensive typing, or something. =P

VFlea
June 6th, 2008, 04:48 PM
Ghost/Dark is the best one I can think of.

Anyway, someone said about the legendaries. The best legendary ever is Mewtwo for sure. It can cover all his weakness and with that damn high S.Atk and good stats everywhere else, it's easily one of the pokémons that you most hate, and want the farther away as possible from you.

PokeMaster1
June 6th, 2008, 05:19 PM
What about Fire/Water or Ice/Fire?

Anti
June 6th, 2008, 05:19 PM
There's a lot of different ways to look at this. From a defensive standpoint, dragon and steel are the two best types because of their abundant resistances, and Ghost isn't so bad either.

Offensively, it's probably dragon. Even though it only hits dragons supereffective, only steels resist it, and coming from a powerful enough attacker, your dragon moves will blow through anything (take SpecsMence for example). Steels can be dealt with by other methods.

I'd say dragon is overall the best type, but you can spin it so many different ways that you really couldn't prove any type is superior than the others IMO.

Zeno_the_dark_one
June 7th, 2008, 07:47 AM
From my stand point, a dragon pokemon is best offense, because the only thing that resists them, steel, is easily taken down by their diverse move range. Flamethrower anyone?

Personally I'd say that a Water/Ground with an ice move sounds good. Just have High Speed. It goes up there with only one weakness, Grass. Just Blizzard the oppnent.

Just my thoughts.

Amp
June 7th, 2008, 07:51 PM
Let's not forget that both Ice and Fire are mondo on the offense, but lacking heavily in defense. Ice/Steel would be a pretty mean type to have to face.

.emerald
June 7th, 2008, 07:54 PM
Going back to this thing. I decided to catch a Machop and train it to level 22 (on Sapphire) so it could learn Foresight. I then went on to face my Emerald game, which has Sableye (the Ghost/Dark) to see if this would work... here's what I got:

Ryan wants to battle!

Go! Subject A! (Machop)

Ryan sent out Sableye!

For Sableye used scratch!

A critical hit!

Subject A used Foresight! Subject A identified Sableye!

Foe Sableye used scratch!

A critical hit!

Subject A used Karate Chop!

Super Effective!

Foe Sableye used Night Shade!

Subject A fainted!

Player lost against Ryan!

In conclusion, when a fighting Pokemon, or any Pokemon using Foresight or Oder Sleuth can attack Ghost types AND the fighting move WILL be super effective.

So that gives Ghost/Dark its only weakness so far.

your right! no weakness is the best!!!.^_^"!

Goldie
June 7th, 2008, 10:11 PM
ELECTRIC. All the way. It's the best next to Ice. Fire sucks.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
June 8th, 2008, 11:14 AM
What about Fire/Water or Ice/Fire?


Fire/Water- Ground, Electric, and Rock

Ice/Fire- Fighting, Rock (X4), Water, Ground,


:t354:TG

.
June 8th, 2008, 12:23 PM
I see a lot of people right away going straight for Dark/Ghost as the best combination. Sure, no weaknesses is a very nice benefit, but it can sometimes not be as good as some say. For example, people use Gyarados and Electivire to their advantage.

Player 1 sent out Gyarados
Player 2 sent out Jolteon
Player 1 withdrew Gyarados and sent out Electivire
Jolteon used Thunderbolt
Electivire's Motor Drive increased it's speed!

See, weaknesses, have their benefits. But that is not it, let's talk about STAB, shall we?

Dark/Ghost have some nice moves that can be added with STAB; Crunch, Shadow Ball, Dark Pulse, etc... But there are other moves that can be more useful with STAB; dragon, water, fire, ice. Dark/Ghost hits a lot for at least normal, but not that much for super effective.

Piggybacking off Anti-Pop, Dragon/Steel would be a great combination; doesn't get hit by fire, fighting, water, or dragon too hard. Ice doesn't do that much, but it gains a ground weakness. Not much (I believe this makes it have only one weakness?) If this said Pokemon had Levitate, there would be no weaknesses, similar to Kingdra and Palkia (whom I believe has the best ingame combination)

So, what is the best combination? Most likely either Dialga or Palkia/Kindgra. But then again, weaknesses can have advantages.

.emerald
June 8th, 2008, 07:41 PM
what about the ghost-dark thing....(& why doesnt normal have an advantage over other types??)

Crett
June 9th, 2008, 05:33 AM
Ghost/Dark.
2 Pokemon exist with that type,
NO weaknesses.
Sableye and Spiritomb...
dot dot dot.
THEY BOTH START WITH "S".
I find that suspicious.
well, I'd have to check on that Dragon/Ice thing later..

supersmashbro93
June 13th, 2008, 04:06 PM
thats easy normal their only weakness is fighting and they can learn other types of attacks other than normal

Animahngo
June 13th, 2008, 05:27 PM
FINALLY! I finished.


Anyway, according to my calcs, the best type is steel/flying.

I gave each type a type value based of a formula I came up with. With the current available types, the lowest Type Value I calculated was assigned to ice/grass and ice/flying with a Type Value of 4, and the highest was 17, assigned to flying/steel.

anyone want to know the type values of any other types?

stocksy96
June 13th, 2008, 05:31 PM
wot woukd kingdras weakness be. i mean thunder type move would do sumfen while grass types would do the same.

Animahngo
June 13th, 2008, 05:38 PM
wot woukd kingdras weakness be. i mean thunder type move would do sumfen while grass types would do the same.



Dragon. Use the internet to answer your questions.

Voltagenic
June 13th, 2008, 06:09 PM
I'm not quite sure if there is a "best" type. Also, Amp, about Ice/Steel, Fighting anyone?

.emerald
June 13th, 2008, 06:11 PM
I'm not quite sure if there is a "best" type. Also, Amp, about Ice/Steel, Fighting anyone?

woah!! to ultra effectives.... not good!!

Voltagenic
June 13th, 2008, 06:12 PM
woah!! to ultra effectives.... not good!!

Imagine Machamp using Cross Chop on an Ice/Steel.

4x + STAB + the move's high attack power = OHKO, no matter how you look at it

.emerald
June 13th, 2008, 06:15 PM
Imagine Machamp using Cross Chop on an Ice/Steel.

4x + STAB + the move's high attack power = OHKO, no matter how you look at it

YEAH.... i can imagine blast burn.....(even with amnesia!!)

Voltagenic
June 13th, 2008, 06:18 PM
YEAH.... i can imagine blast burn.....(even with amnesia!!)

That'd be the saddest defeat in EONS.

Jabunks
June 13th, 2008, 06:20 PM
Well, in my personal opinion, Ghost and Dark types have an advantage, and if you equip it with moves that can harm anything normally effective, you can take over a HUGE percantage of different pokemon, and if it's EV trained for those certain moves, It be virtually unbeatable. Hmm...I should do that...

Ice is also very good, its super effective against alot, but everyone loves fire types...

The Dragon/Ice idea i liked to

Voltagenic
June 13th, 2008, 06:50 PM
The Dragon/Ice idea i liked to

There's no way to get double damage on that one, only 3.5x, if you have STAB.

iLike2EatPiez
June 13th, 2008, 07:04 PM
Let's see... If they actually gave a Ghost/Dark good stats and a useful moveset, it would be quite a fearsome beast indeed.

Dragon/Steel? It would have access to useful offensive moves, have the Defense of a Steel Type, and it's only weakness is... Ground, if I'm not mistaken? Go, Dialga!

LishaKara
June 13th, 2008, 09:00 PM
kekekekeke, if you managed to get a Sableye and a Shedinja in a double battle and Skill Swapped 'em, you'd have an invincible Sableye >:D

. . . making ghost/dark the best type combo.

Flyfloon
June 14th, 2008, 06:19 AM
I wonder, if a machamp or something uses "foresight" what will happen next turn? wouldn't that be super effective since Dark is weak to fighting and foresight enabling you to hit ghosts.

Same thing with Kangaskhan his ability enables him to attack ghosts.

kekekekeke, if you managed to get a Sableye and a Shedinja in a double battle and Skill Swapped 'em, you'd have an invincible Sableye >:D

. . . making ghost/dark the best type combo.

Shedinja ability cannot be swapped.

xatonu
June 14th, 2008, 07:33 AM
i think fire/fighting is the best type.(my infernape knows grass knot, shadow claw, fire blast and close combat) fire/fighting is good against almost any type.

Volkner's Apprentice
June 14th, 2008, 09:13 AM
I guess I'm biased, but you can't go wrong with Water types. Especially all the dual-waters there are now (sooo many different type combos and choices!) Water/Steel, Water/Ground, Water/Ice, Water/Flying.

And water types have nice move pools, usually. As a whole, the water group is well-rounded in stats (par maybe Defense), each Water Pokemon has different attacks and abilities, it's hard not to fall in love with them.

Mao
June 14th, 2008, 09:41 AM
How about a Dark/Dragon type? I'm not sure about weaknesses but that will sure come in handy.

Ninja Aiden
June 14th, 2008, 01:48 PM
I think they should make a triple type of Dragon/Ice/Dark. That would be awesome but Dragon and Ice in dual types.

Squeenix
June 14th, 2008, 02:44 PM
A ghost dark shedinja-yes, that would be good